Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1117

#51 | creativename | Posted 8/19/2013 9:51:20 AM | message detail
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I really don't think Yuffie is stronger than Barrett. Other than Kingdom Hearts, she doesn't really have much going for her. Barrett is a much more "important" character to the game, and Yuffie has a noticeable amount of people that hate her. I don't really know anyone that hates Barrett. Other than TJF Vs. RacistFAQS, I really wouldn't have any reason to pick her.

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#52 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/19/2013 9:52:29 AM | message detail
Feeling glad I picked Aerith.

Shep winning over a strong FF7 character on this site just never felt right to me.
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#53 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/19/2013 9:53:34 AM | message detail
creativename posted...
Great to see Aeris doing so well.

I was really worried about this one after Garrus and Wrex did so good, even though I wasn't impressed with Shepard himself - letting Olimar get 35% was a meh performance to me.

Odd that Shepard doesn't look to be all that much stronger than his supporting cast.


To be fair, Shepard is completely customizable and has no set characterization.
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#54 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 8/19/2013 9:54:04 AM | message detail
Honestly, it's kind of amazing how much of a boost KH(2) were able to give. It's ability to straddle both the FF fanbase and the kids made it extremely potent.
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#55 | abdou | Posted 8/19/2013 9:55:18 AM | message detail
another cut. This match is definitely not over
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#56 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/19/2013 9:55:39 AM | message detail
Kratos Aurion was down by more than this and came back despite a rally against him, so Shepard can definitely do this. Either way it's still pretty disappointing.
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#57 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/19/2013 9:56:01 AM | message detail
You've still gotta take Aeris with room to spare over Sub-Zero, so Shepard may end this (assuming he doesn't win, which he easily may), roughly around Subz's level. That would give him an indirect 55% on his war bro Garrus, which is low, but not so low that I'd have trouble believing it.
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#58 | creativename | Posted 8/19/2013 9:56:37 AM | message detail
Aeris only a couple points behind in the US, and she's crushing Canada.

Match still isn't over though, but Shepard needs to start gaining some momentum, rather than this stall-stall-small cut-big loss pattern.

LinkMarioSamus posted...
creativename posted...
Great to see Aeris doing so well.

I was really worried about this one after Garrus and Wrex did so good, even though I wasn't impressed with Shepard himself - letting Olimar get 35% was a meh performance to me.

Odd that Shepard doesn't look to be all that much stronger than his supporting cast.


To be fair, Shepard is completely customizable and has no set characterization.

Shepard is nothing like the LOL customizable characters like Dragonborn. Shepard is Shepard. He's not going to be hurt by customization like other characters.
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#59 | xp1337 | Posted 8/19/2013 9:58:10 AM | message detail
abdou posted...
another cut. This match is definitely not over

Shepard needs to string together a few with at least one being major to make me a believer given Aerith has simply been hitting back with huge gains that more than undo what Shepard's small cuts have done.

He can do this but I'm feeling increasingly bad about it.
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#60 | xp1337 | Posted 8/19/2013 9:59:20 AM | message detail
Like that one! That was the most encouraging cut yet!
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#61 | creativename | Posted 8/19/2013 9:59:32 AM | message detail
Kotetsu534 posted...
Honestly, it's kind of amazing how much of a boost KH(2) were able to give. It's ability to straddle both the FF fanbase and the kids made it extremely potent.

Yeah, KH went beast mode after KH2.

Sora and Riku got 45% on Mega Man and Yoshi respectively. That was the peak of KH's powers.
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#62 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/19/2013 10:00:05 AM | message detail
Oh wow, Tharja might not be as terrible as we thought she would be, which makes Tiny Tina and Juliet Starling look better as well.

And Travis Touchdown losing to Recette Lemongrass, as well as other Western characters crapping the bed, makes the whole lot of 'em look pathetic.
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#63 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 8/19/2013 10:00:13 AM | message detail
If it follows Wrex Vs. Cecil trends, Shep wins with 50.55%
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#64 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/19/2013 10:00:41 AM | message detail
Good cut there by Shep.
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#65 | CrushDavis | Posted 8/19/2013 10:01:27 AM | message detail
There we go, now we rocking. Bury Aerith now that we are out of the Japanese Character Power Hour
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#66 | The Real Truth | Posted 8/19/2013 10:03:23 AM | message detail
Just like clock work
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#67 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:03:28 AM | message detail
CrushDavis posted...
There we go, now we rocking. Bury Aerith now that we are out of the Japanese Character Power Hour


Cloud and Sephiroth wish they had a good power hour
#68 | xp1337 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:03:45 AM | message detail
i am becoming a believer
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#69 | squexa | Posted 8/19/2013 10:03:46 AM | message detail
CrushDavis posted...
There we go, now we rocking. Bury Aerith now that we are out of the Japanese Character Power Hour


The almighty FFVII power hour
#70 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/19/2013 10:04:29 AM | message detail
Heh, love it. Everything changes in ten minutes. This might not even end up that close.
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#71 | Denzokuken | Posted 8/19/2013 10:04:53 AM | message detail
oh no
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#72 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:05:00 AM | message detail
That ain't good.
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#73 | squexa | Posted 8/19/2013 10:05:14 AM | message detail
Shep's got this
#74 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 8/19/2013 10:05:57 AM | message detail
Aerith dying
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#75 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/19/2013 10:06:12 AM | message detail
Also, this is the first week where we could realistically see some ASV shifts (if not now, then next Monday). You've gotta figure it goes to Shep.
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#76 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 8/19/2013 10:06:43 AM | message detail
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Tharja is an optional character, i don't buy her being as strong as Lucina or Chrom to be honest. Dracula definitely looking good to beat Barret.


Okay a couple of things:
Tharja is technically an optional character, but is super easy to get and everyone does.
With that in mind, Tharja is one of the most popular characters in the game for use. She is also BY FAR the most married character in the game.
Wrex and Garrus are technically optional characters, and they did alright.

Here is an aproximation of a Fire Emblem ranking:

Ike
Marth
Lucina
Chrom
Tharja
Lyndis

After this I think Lyndis is pretty clearly on the bottom by a way. Tharja could honestly be stronger than Chrom though. Dammit Chrom, you blew it.
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#77 | Denzokuken | Posted 8/19/2013 10:06:49 AM | message detail
Aeris used Cure2
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#78 | backinblack167 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:07:20 AM | message detail
Wouldn't surprise me if Tharja is overperforming due to the picture here.
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#79 | pjbasis | Posted 8/19/2013 10:07:31 AM | message detail
He's eating her alive
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#80 | RySenkari (Moderator) | Posted 8/19/2013 10:08:23 AM | message detail
Ruh roh Raggy!
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#81 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/19/2013 10:08:33 AM | message detail
Lightning Strikes posted...
ZinsanityCraze posted...
Tharja is an optional character, i don't buy her being as strong as Lucina or Chrom to be honest. Dracula definitely looking good to beat Barret.


Okay a couple of things:
Tharja is technically an optional character, but is super easy to get and everyone does.
With that in mind, Tharja is one of the most popular characters in the game for use. She is also BY FAR the most married character in the game.
Wrex and Garrus are technically optional characters, and they did alright.

Here is an aproximation of a Fire Emblem ranking:

Ike
Marth
Lucina
Chrom
Tharja
Lyndis

After this I think Lyndis is pretty clearly on the bottom by a way. Tharja could honestly be stronger than Chrom though. Dammit Chrom, you blew it.


After looking like garbage against those scrubs, I don't trust Tharja to be stronger than Chrom. At all.
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#82 | Denzokuken | Posted 8/19/2013 10:08:48 AM | message detail
This next update.... if it's another big cut... ugh.
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#83 | xp1337 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:08:58 AM | message detail
wrong way shepard
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#84 | Xuxon | Posted 8/19/2013 10:09:06 AM | message detail
From: Denzokuken | Posted: 8/19/2013 1:06:49 PM | #077
Aeris used Cure2

looking into the future?
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#85 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:09:22 AM | message detail
Aerith keeps stopping him
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#86 | Denzokuken | Posted 8/19/2013 10:09:42 AM | message detail
Time for the Great Gospel limit break!
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#87 | creativename | Posted 8/19/2013 10:11:10 AM | message detail
What an up and down match. Trends are all over the damn place.
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#88 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 8/19/2013 10:11:12 AM | message detail
Fayt_Esteed posted...
Lightning Strikes posted...
ZinsanityCraze posted...
Tharja is an optional character, i don't buy her being as strong as Lucina or Chrom to be honest. Dracula definitely looking good to beat Barret.


Okay a couple of things:
Tharja is technically an optional character, but is super easy to get and everyone does.
With that in mind, Tharja is one of the most popular characters in the game for use. She is also BY FAR the most married character in the game.
Wrex and Garrus are technically optional characters, and they did alright.

Here is an aproximation of a Fire Emblem ranking:

Ike
Marth
Lucina
Chrom
Tharja
Lyndis

After this I think Lyndis is pretty clearly on the bottom by a way. Tharja could honestly be stronger than Chrom though. Dammit Chrom, you blew it.


After looking like garbage against those scrubs, I don't trust Tharja to be stronger than Chrom. At all.


You are seeing this match right.

Hell, assuming Juliet and Tina are automatically terrible is a bit naive.
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#89 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:11:35 AM | message detail
no way Tharja is stronger than Chrom, unless you think she can basically pic factor her way over him
#90 | hagankefs | Posted 8/19/2013 10:11:51 AM | message detail
Map wise it's USA x World...not sure if USA can pull this one for Shep.
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#91 | The Owner of FF9 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:13:41 AM | message detail
I believe in you, Aeris.
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#92 | xp1337 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:13:48 AM | message detail
Okay, back on track!
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#93 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/19/2013 10:14:03 AM | message detail
Lightning Strikes posted...
Fayt_Esteed posted...
Lightning Strikes posted...
ZinsanityCraze posted...
Tharja is an optional character, i don't buy her being as strong as Lucina or Chrom to be honest. Dracula definitely looking good to beat Barret.


Okay a couple of things:
Tharja is technically an optional character, but is super easy to get and everyone does.
With that in mind, Tharja is one of the most popular characters in the game for use. She is also BY FAR the most married character in the game.
Wrex and Garrus are technically optional characters, and they did alright.

Here is an aproximation of a Fire Emblem ranking:

Ike
Marth
Lucina
Chrom
Tharja
Lyndis

After this I think Lyndis is pretty clearly on the bottom by a way. Tharja could honestly be stronger than Chrom though. Dammit Chrom, you blew it.


After looking like garbage against those scrubs, I don't trust Tharja to be stronger than Chrom. At all.


You are seeing this match right.

Hell, assuming Juliet and Tina are automatically terrible is a bit naive.


Need I point out another Suda51 character lost to Recette Lemongrass? And that other Western characters also stunk up the joint? That doesn't make *ANY* of them look good. At all.
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#94 | creativename | Posted 8/19/2013 10:14:18 AM | message detail
Lightning Strikes posted...
You are seeing this match right.

Hell, assuming Juliet and Tina are automatically terrible is a bit naive.

Yeah, this is a pretty respectable performance from Tharja - though she'll probably finish a point or so below where she is now.
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#95 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 8/19/2013 10:15:08 AM | message detail
Lightning Strikes posted...
You are seeing this match right.


30% on what might be a weaker Aeris isn't THAT impressive.

If she even manages to stay above 30% even
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#96 | swordz9 | Posted 8/19/2013 10:15:21 AM | message detail
I think Tharja is looking decent because of her opponents. She's likely getting the FF7 anti-votes instead of Shepard.
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#97 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 8/19/2013 10:15:28 AM | message detail
Aeris was dead the moment LMS called this match in her favor.
#98 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 8/19/2013 10:15:58 AM | message detail
My main argument for Tharja over Chrom, beyond this match, is the fact that among people who have played Awakening, she is easily more popular. Chrom isn't super liked, and we know from cases like FFX that character popularity is important. Tharja on the other hand, is neck and neck with Lucina for the title of most popular character in that game.

Also I'm sorry but I just don't buy The Boss being that strong.
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#99 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 8/19/2013 10:16:03 AM | message detail
Fayt_Esteed posted...
Need I point out another Suda51 character lost to Recette Lemongrass? And that other Western characters also stunk up the joint? That doesn't make *ANY* of them look good. At all.


Do you ever post anything besides this? How long are you going to go on about that
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#100 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 8/19/2013 10:18:14 AM | message detail
Recette got 40% on Kratos.

Just sayin'.

Hell, going off of Kratos, Travis did alright. Juliet is, painful as it is to admit, probably a little bit stronger than him. Why are you instantly assuming characters to be terrible despite evidence that this isn't the case? The only thing to take away from that match is that Recette is surprisingly decent.
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