Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1115

#201 | spooky96 (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/17/2013 9:07:52 PM | message detail
Yeah I'm not much surprised either. I was expecting 62% + for the first freeze. Though he might fall later a little bit.
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#202 | Sorozone | Posted 8/17/2013 9:07:57 PM | message detail
Ok drop there, and he'll probably bleed percentage for most of the night. Charizard looks good, but he isn't looking like a Mario killer if he manages to get past MM.
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#203 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/17/2013 9:07:58 PM | message detail
Okay that's a big drop. This probably ends up looking strong, but normal.
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#204 | ZeldaTPLink | Posted 8/17/2013 9:08:00 PM | message detail
Achromatic posted...
71.49%

What is "% Snake is expected to get on Riku"


2010 Snake got 64% on Riku.
#205 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/17/2013 9:08:40 PM | message detail
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Achromatic posted...
71.49%

What is "% Snake is expected to get on Riku"


2010 Snake got 64% on Riku.


...Snake never even faced Riku.
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#206 | spooky96 (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/17/2013 9:09:05 PM | message detail
Alright now that's a HUGE drop. I'm correct about MM>Zard>Zero now.
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#207 | ZeldaTPLink | Posted 8/17/2013 9:09:38 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Achromatic posted...
71.49%

What is "% Snake is expected to get on Riku"


2010 Snake got 64% on Riku.


...Snake never even faced Riku.


My bad. 2007 Snake.

And it's on the wiki.

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Riku%27s_Contest_History
#208 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 8/17/2013 9:10:14 PM | message detail
Magikarp vs. Riku

who ya got
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#209 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/17/2013 9:10:19 PM | message detail
spooky96 posted...
Alright now that's a HUGE drop. I'm correct about MM>Zard>Zero now.


Charizard is going to be projected to beat Mega Man until he stops doubling him. Riku is probably overrated in 2010 though.
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#210 | tennisboy213 | Posted 8/17/2013 9:10:39 PM | message detail
53% picked DK
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#211 | Achromatic | Posted 8/17/2013 9:10:43 PM | message detail
Fun fact for everyone: The Charizard that got 54% on Bowser is expected to get 65% on Riku.

This is a beatdown either way <_<.
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#212 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/17/2013 9:11:22 PM | message detail
ZeldaTPLink posted...
My bad. 2007 Snake.

And it's on the wiki.

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Riku%27s_Contest_History


use the round 2 match if anything, why would you even try to extrapolate through an L-Block match
#213 | SnoicFactor | Posted 8/17/2013 9:11:23 PM | message detail
Achromatic posted...
Fun fact for everyone: The Charizard that got 54% on Bowser is expected to get 65% on Riku.

This is a beatdown either way <_<.


Charizard gets stronger as the contest goes on.
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#214 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/17/2013 9:11:25 PM | message detail
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Achromatic posted...
71.49%

What is "% Snake is expected to get on Riku"


2010 Snake got 64% on Riku.


...Snake never even faced Riku.


My bad. 2007 Snake.

And it's on the wiki.

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Riku%27s_Contest_History


2007 Snake is significantly weaker than 2010 Snake. That's pre-Brawl and pre-MGS4. Snake's projection is well above this even considering that Riku 2010 is probably overrated.
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#215 | Achromatic | Posted 8/17/2013 9:11:50 PM | message detail
SnoicFactor posted...
Achromatic posted...
Fun fact for everyone: The Charizard that got 54% on Bowser is expected to get 65% on Riku.

This is a beatdown either way <_<.


Charizard gets stronger as the contest goes on.



...That's my point. Mega Man is screwed.
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#216 | kinsho3 | Posted 8/17/2013 9:12:06 PM | message detail
Excellent. Riku's looking like crap!
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#217 | Pokefear | Posted 8/17/2013 9:12:16 PM | message detail
From: spooky96 | #206
Alright now that's a HUGE drop. I'm correct about MM>Zard>Zero now.

The argument isn't that Zard > Mega Man directly. The argument is that the MM/Zero fanbases are distinct enough that Mega Man can't SFF Zero enough to make up the difference!

I don't see how 3% at the beginning of a match can make that much of a difference for you.
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#218 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/17/2013 9:12:47 PM | message detail
SnoicFactor posted...
Achromatic posted...
Fun fact for everyone: The Charizard that got 54% on Bowser is expected to get 65% on Riku.

This is a beatdown either way <_<.


Charizard gets stronger as the contest goes on.


so he really is L-Block-lite huh
#219 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/17/2013 9:13:11 PM | message detail
Charizard is bleeding like crazy, actually. This could end up close to my expectation or even worse if he continues this trajectory.
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#220 | ZeldaTPLink | Posted 8/17/2013 9:13:18 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Achromatic posted...
71.49%

What is "% Snake is expected to get on Riku"


2010 Snake got 64% on Riku.


...Snake never even faced Riku.


My bad. 2007 Snake.

And it's on the wiki.

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Riku%27s_Contest_History


2007 Snake is significantly weaker than 2010 Snake. That's pre-Brawl and pre-MGS4. Snake's projection is well above this even considering that Riku 2010 is probably overrated.


Ok then. Still, that's one scary performance by Charizard.
#221 | Sorozone | Posted 8/17/2013 9:15:02 PM | message detail
Charizards bleed should be fairly similar to what happened with Squirtle.
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#222 | kinsho3 | Posted 8/17/2013 9:15:26 PM | message detail
WarThaNemesis2 posted...
Magikarp vs. Riku

who ya got


Magikarp.
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#223 | Qwaar | Posted 8/17/2013 9:15:39 PM | message detail
He's bled a few percent and he's being ruled out of beating Mega Man. Good grief.
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#224 | spooky96 (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/17/2013 9:15:48 PM | message detail
Pokefear posted...
From: spooky96 | #206
Alright now that's a HUGE drop. I'm correct about MM>Zard>Zero now.

The argument isn't that Zard > Mega Man directly. The argument is that the MM/Zero fanbases are distinct enough that Mega Man can't SFF Zero enough to make up the difference!

I don't see how 3% at the beginning of a match can make that much of a difference for you.


I already had faith in MM to beat Zard despite Zero being there anyways. Any drop, even though just the 2nd freeze is a good indicator for me >_>

Kratos has shown Zard his true strength. Not Zard's match against FREAKING Mario. HG/SS were probably #1 for most popular games in the top 100 list when Zard faced Bowser and Mario.
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#225 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/17/2013 9:16:33 PM | message detail
Qwaar posted...
He's bled a few percent and he's being ruled out of beating Mega Man. Good grief.


If he bleeds too much more he won't be in contention to be stronger than him based on projections... though obviously, that's not at issue. The Pokemon's still the favorite.
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#226 | JustForFun1988 | Posted 8/17/2013 9:16:40 PM | message detail
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Achromatic posted...
71.49%

What is "% Snake is expected to get on Riku"


2010 Snake got 64% on Riku.


...Snake never even faced Riku.


My bad. 2007 Snake.

And it's on the wiki.

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Riku%27s_Contest_History


http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Kratos_vs_L-Block_vs_Solid_Snake_vs_Riku_2007

Sprite Snake got 64% on Riku.
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#227 | CP724 | Posted 8/17/2013 9:17:21 PM | message detail
how much did squirtle bleed from the boardvote?
#228 | LordoftheMorons | Posted 8/17/2013 9:17:38 PM | message detail
I'm really hoping Charizard loses to MM (my bracket is pretty much depending on it), but I definitely wouldn't count him out yet.
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#229 | tgs2 | Posted 8/17/2013 9:17:52 PM | message detail
spooky96 posted...
Pokefear posted...
From: spooky96 | #206
Alright now that's a HUGE drop. I'm correct about MM>Zard>Zero now.

The argument isn't that Zard > Mega Man directly. The argument is that the MM/Zero fanbases are distinct enough that Mega Man can't SFF Zero enough to make up the difference!

I don't see how 3% at the beginning of a match can make that much of a difference for you.


I already had faith in MM to beat Zard despite Zero being there anyways. Any drop, even though just the 2nd freeze is a good indicator for me >_>

Kratos has shown Zard his true strength. Not Zard's match against FREAKING Mario. HG/SS were probably #1 for most popular games in the top 100 list when Zard faced Bowser and Mario.


Charizard doesn't really need to be a near-elite to beat an SFFed Mega Man. Any high midcarder could do it if you think 33% on 2008 Cloud is doable by today's high midcarders.
#230 | 2Dover3D | Posted 8/17/2013 9:17:59 PM | message detail
This probably ends up being close to a 65% performance on Riku, which isn't all that great when it comes down to it.
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#231 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 8/17/2013 9:18:25 PM | message detail
Score-Brackets-% Right
75------1------------0.00
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52------893--------54.42
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50------727--------60.11
49------706--------56.80
48------516--------58.72
47------508--------54.92
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44------361--------49.86
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41------191--------48.69
40------180--------50.56
39------173--------47.40
38------115--------47.83
37------124--------53.23
36------98----------42.86
35------93----------35.48
34------72----------47.22
33------68----------39.71
32------47----------53.19
31------28----------39.29
30------39----------25.64
29------26----------26.92
28------31----------25.81
27------21----------23.81
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We got hilariously destroyed by the casuals on this match. For them it was a slightly tough match. For us, we had no idea what we were doing. A random number generator would have been a better place to go for advice than us. The last -4 (75 points) falls and becomes the new last -5 since the existing -5 (74 points) got it wrong as well. In turn, that's now the only -6 since all the previous -6s (73 points) failed. A single -7 (72 points) got the match right. Just 2 -8s (71 points) picked DK. You need to go to the -11s (68 points) for prediction percentage to crack the double digits. From there prediction percentage ramps up quickly until it reaches the 60s. Roughly 60% of the casuals knew DK would win. For them DK was the clear favourite to win and only a handful of us saw it coming.

1 person fell off the Top 49. GloriousSweater did not expect DK to win the match.

45 people got it wrong and survived. CarveyFAQs, KingLionel, Astro1446, ChenKenichiFan, Fr0zoN, KCGemini, LordoftheMorons, Luis_Sera89, RAMS, Sorozone, SuorGenoveffa, voltch, Xcarvenger, alblito, AsurasKordoth, Colegreen_c12, Crossfiyah, Denzokuken, dethfdddddh, FFIXOwner, Hagankefs, Hitagi, jkmill550, Jobi1, KateWilder, Kotetsu534, metaIslugg, Nintendoboy375, PSU_Jer, Rex915, Runemistress, TeamRocketElite, yoyoyoyrlozer, _SecretSquirrel, ahirsch101, AlecTrevylan006, Als52, Blairville, ChronoT7, Clichokeet, ContestScrub, creativename, DarkFalconX, davidponte and frodragon also did not have DK winning the match.

3 people on the Top 49 brilliantly predicted DK's victory. Current 4th place Billy_Gates, Dr_Football and EdBellis knew DK was going to win and they all shoot up the leaderboard.
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#232 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/17/2013 9:18:37 PM | message detail
JustForFun1988 posted...
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Kratos_vs_L-Block_vs_Solid_Snake_vs_Riku_2007

Sprite Snake got 64% on Riku.


Solid S*** AND L-Block shenanigans, why don't we use this match to base our predictions on! /sarcasm
#233 | Sorozone | Posted 8/17/2013 9:18:39 PM | message detail
CP724 posted...
how much did squirtle bleed from the boardvote?


6%
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#234 | swordz9 | Posted 8/17/2013 9:18:46 PM | message detail
Assuming Charizard beats Mega Man how long until his R4 match? Pokemon X/Y is due out by like October 12th though I don't think this will take that much longer.
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#235 | Achromatic | Posted 8/17/2013 9:18:58 PM | message detail
2Dover3D posted...
This probably ends up being close to a 65% performance on Riku, which isn't all that great when it comes down to it.


Except that it puts him in line with his strength at the end of last contest and Riku had no reason to be overrated as he went through Falcon who was said to be equal to Alucard which proved to be true.

You guys confuse me sometimes.
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#236 | 15_and_counting | Posted 8/17/2013 9:19:01 PM | message detail
Qwaar posted...
He's bled a few percent and he's being ruled out of beating Mega Man. Good grief.


It was ruled out the SECOND the SSB4 Trailer happened...
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#237 | spooky96 (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/17/2013 9:19:26 PM | message detail
SnoicFactor posted...
Achromatic posted...
Fun fact for everyone: The Charizard that got 54% on Bowser is expected to get 65% on Riku.

This is a beatdown either way <_<.


Charizard gets stronger as the contest goes on.


I don't know, it has only been ONE contest for him, and that too when he got one of the big release for him.
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#238 | ZeldaTPLink | Posted 8/17/2013 9:20:01 PM | message detail
JustForFun1988 posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Achromatic posted...
71.49%

What is "% Snake is expected to get on Riku"


2010 Snake got 64% on Riku.


...Snake never even faced Riku.


My bad. 2007 Snake.

And it's on the wiki.

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Riku%27s_Contest_History


http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Kratos_vs_L-Block_vs_Solid_Snake_vs_Riku_2007

Sprite Snake got 64% on Riku.


Damn pic factor.
#239 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/17/2013 9:20:02 PM | message detail
2Dover3D posted...
This probably ends up being close to a 65% performance on Riku, which isn't all that great when it comes down to it.


Unless you actually expected Zard's real strength to be N9 level, that is just fine.

It's more than enough to beat a MM stuck with Zero in the poll.
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#240 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/17/2013 9:20:45 PM | message detail
CP724 posted...
how much did squirtle bleed from the boardvote?


Squirtle was 66% at the freeze, 62% a half hour in, 61% at the end of the Power Hour, and and 59.5% by the end of the match. Ramza's night vote should be worlds better than Riku's though.

So far Charizard's bleeding has been worse, but comparable.
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#241 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/17/2013 9:21:29 PM | message detail
Achromatic posted...
2Dover3D posted...
This probably ends up being close to a 65% performance on Riku, which isn't all that great when it comes down to it.


Except that it puts him in line with his strength at the end of last contest and Riku had no reason to be overrated as he went through Falcon who was said to be equal to Alucard which proved to be true.

You guys confuse me sometimes.


This is all wrong. All of it. I'm not even sure where to start.
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#242 | Dr_Football | Posted 8/17/2013 9:21:41 PM | message detail
3 people on the Top 49 brilliantly predicted DK's victory. Current 4th place Billy_Gates, Dr_Football and EdBellis knew DK was going to win and they all shoot up the leaderboard.


slowly but surely DFF will rise again

and then crash and burn
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#243 | spooky96 (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/17/2013 9:22:04 PM | message detail
3 people on the Top 49 brilliantly predicted DK's victory. Current 4th place Billy_Gates, Dr_Football and EdBellis knew DK was going to win and they all shoot up the leaderboard.


ME! I had DK winning too!




Oh wait I already predicted like 10 matches wrong.
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#244 | Kibago | Posted 8/17/2013 9:22:40 PM | message detail
and nier falls into the basement...
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#245 | Achromatic | Posted 8/17/2013 9:23:09 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Achromatic posted...
2Dover3D posted...
This probably ends up being close to a 65% performance on Riku, which isn't all that great when it comes down to it.


Except that it puts him in line with his strength at the end of last contest and Riku had no reason to be overrated as he went through Falcon who was said to be equal to Alucard which proved to be true.

You guys confuse me sometimes.


This is all wrong. All of it. I'm not even sure where to start.


Okay if you can explain to my how Falcon and Alucard were projected to be very similar in strength and then that happened is wrong I'll blow you.
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#246 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/17/2013 9:23:27 PM | message detail
Charizard % gain!?!?!?! /typical board overreaction
#247 | kinsho3 | Posted 8/17/2013 9:23:40 PM | message detail
Achromatic posted...
2Dover3D posted...
This probably ends up being close to a 65% performance on Riku, which isn't all that great when it comes down to it.


Except that it puts him in line with his strength at the end of last contest and Riku had no reason to be overrated as he went through Falcon who was said to be equal to Alucard which proved to be true.

You guys confuse me sometimes.


Except if 2010 trends were any indication, Sora and his ilk are likely to have weakened over these past 3 years. This Riku is likely much weaker than 2010 Riku.
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#248 | Achromatic | Posted 8/17/2013 9:24:29 PM | message detail
kinsho3 posted...
Achromatic posted...
2Dover3D posted...
This probably ends up being close to a 65% performance on Riku, which isn't all that great when it comes down to it.


Except that it puts him in line with his strength at the end of last contest and Riku had no reason to be overrated as he went through Falcon who was said to be equal to Alucard which proved to be true.

You guys confuse me sometimes.


Except if 2010 trends were any indication, Sora and his ilk are likely to have weakened over these past 3 years. This Riku is likely much weaker than 2010 Riku.


Now THAT might be a fair conjecture to make, but someone was arguing Riku was somehow overrated in the stats.
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#249 | tgs2 | Posted 8/17/2013 9:24:43 PM | message detail
Alucard/Falcon is a eerily similar mirror of Shadow/Tidus, only it was antivotes screwing with the percentage instead of Magus.
#250 | Xuxon | Posted 8/17/2013 9:24:51 PM | message detail
From: Achromatic | Posted: 8/18/2013 12:23:09 AM | #245
Karma Hunter posted...
Achromatic posted...
2Dover3D posted...
This probably ends up being close to a 65% performance on Riku, which isn't all that great when it comes down to it.


Except that it puts him in line with his strength at the end of last contest and Riku had no reason to be overrated as he went through Falcon who was said to be equal to Alucard which proved to be true.

You guys confuse me sometimes.


This is all wrong. All of it. I'm not even sure where to start.


Okay if you can explain to my how Falcon and Alucard were projected to be very similar in strength and then that happened is wrong I'll blow you.

they faced Link and Cloud who both got anti-voted. look at Thrall.
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