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People acting like this is a surprise.

DK isn't the same Joke smash bros/Donkey Konga character from the last decade. DKCR has givne him more respect and with that a boost in the % of Nintendo fans who take him seriously and vote for him. I'm glad I picked him in my bracket. FF13 would lose to a lot of non FF JRPG's on this site. The only people who like Lightning are teens who think she's hot.
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Nah, he'll still get crushed next round and prove he hasn't changed THAT much.
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squexa posted...

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1337gamerpr0 posted...

what percentage do you guys think Crono would get on Pikachu 1v1, anyway?

Assuming Crono has weakened to the point that I thought he would pre-contest, about 58% was what I expected (roughly what Zero is expected to get on him assuming Lloyd = Kratos, coincidentally). Then cut a handful of percent for a day match and throw in Magus leeching to give Pikachu the win. The first part may bear true if Crono has dropped enough, but it may not matter if he can drain Magus's corpse enough to prevent the win.

Hmm, Crono getting 58% on Pikachu seems scarily high.

Crono/Lavos got barely 41% on Liquid/Solid in 2011 while Pikachu got 45% on Snake in 2010.

Stopping you there. Using Pikachu's percentage on Snake is flat-out the dumbest thing you could possibly do in relation to him. Snake's historical overrating could mean Pikachu is worth 10 points less than that, easily. It's preposterously useless - I have Pikachu > Crono but if that's all he's got going for him he's going to get his ass kicked.
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Karma Hunter posted...

squexa posted...

Karma Hunter posted...

1337gamerpr0 posted...

what percentage do you guys think Crono would get on Pikachu 1v1, anyway?

Assuming Crono has weakened to the point that I thought he would pre-contest, about 58% was what I expected (roughly what Zero is expected to get on him assuming Lloyd = Kratos, coincidentally). Then cut a handful of percent for a day match and throw in Magus leeching to give Pikachu the win. The first part may bear true if Crono has dropped enough, but it may not matter if he can drain Magus's corpse enough to prevent the win.

Hmm, Crono getting 58% on Pikachu seems scarily high.

Crono/Lavos got barely 41% on Liquid/Solid in 2011 while Pikachu got 45% on Snake in 2010.

Stopping you there. Using Pikachu's percentage on Snake is flat-out the dumbest thing you could possibly do in relation to him. Snake's historical overrating could mean Pikachu is worth 10 points less than that, easily. It's preposterously useless - I have Pikachu > Crono but if that's all he's got going for him he's going to get his ass kicked.

What else can we use to compare Pikachu and Crono? I believe Crono's only 1 vs 1 since ... 2006 are his loss against Missingno and his loss with Lavos against the Snakes both first round.

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squexa posted...

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squexa posted...

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1337gamerpr0 posted...

what percentage do you guys think Crono would get on Pikachu 1v1, anyway?

Assuming Crono has weakened to the point that I thought he would pre-contest, about 58% was what I expected (roughly what Zero is expected to get on him assuming Lloyd = Kratos, coincidentally). Then cut a handful of percent for a day match and throw in Magus leeching to give Pikachu the win. The first part may bear true if Crono has dropped enough, but it may not matter if he can drain Magus's corpse enough to prevent the win.

Hmm, Crono getting 58% on Pikachu seems scarily high.

Crono/Lavos got barely 41% on Liquid/Solid in 2011 while Pikachu got 45% on Snake in 2010.

Stopping you there. Using Pikachu's percentage on Snake is flat-out the dumbest thing you could possibly do in relation to him. Snake's historical overrating could mean Pikachu is worth 10 points less than that, easily. It's preposterously useless - I have Pikachu > Crono but if that's all he's got going for him he's going to get his ass kicked.

What else can we use to compare Pikachu and Crono? I believe Crono's only 1 vs 1 since ... 2006 are his loss against Missingno and his loss with Lavos against the Snakes both first round.

Almost anything else would be better than the Snake match, unless you wanted to go by Frog, Bowser, and Yoshi to see how much the match overrated him by... for example, Frog went from 48% on Snake 2k4 to 30% on Samus 2k5, Bowser went from 49.5% on Snake 2k5 to 41% on Crono 2k6, Yoshi went from 43% on Snake 2k6 to 42% on Squall 2k8.
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Here's a list of characters with 10 wins or more from A-M (2nd place in 4 ways counts except in final, each battle royal match counts, no rivalry rumble, first round this contest counted), I mostly only looked at characters that appeared in many contests though I made a couple of notable exception. I'll do the rest later.

Link - 42
Cloud - 35
Mario - 30
Mega Man - 26
Crono - 25
Bowser - 16
Dante - 15
Ganondorf - 15
Kirby - 14
Luigi - 14
Auron - 13
L-Block - 11
Master Chief - 11
Alucard - 10
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Points: 63/78 Today's Picks: Zelda and Lightning

lmao lightning getting stomped even with falco in the poll
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...Oh hey, I had an idea.

Extrapolate Pikachu's value through Pikachu/Lloyd and Fox/Lloyd.
Then compare that to what Vincent and Tifa got on Sephiroth in 2010 and assume no SFF. Vincent should be around the low end for a Crono value, Tifa probably near the high end.

What are the results?
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Looks like he's stalling now though. I wonder...!
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AxemRedRanger posted...

...Oh hey, I had an idea.

Extrapolate Pikachu's value through Pikachu/Lloyd and Fox/Lloyd.
Then compare that to what Vincent and Tifa got on Sephiroth in 2010 and assume no SFF. Vincent should be around the low end for a Crono value, Tifa probably near the high end.

What are the results?

Pikachu gets 52.9% on Fox. Pikachu gets 49.8% on raw Vincent. Pikachu gets 41.5% on raw Tifa.
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squexa posted...

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squexa posted...

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1337gamerpr0 posted...

what percentage do you guys think Crono would get on Pikachu 1v1, anyway?

Assuming Crono has weakened to the point that I thought he would pre-contest, about 58% was what I expected (roughly what Zero is expected to get on him assuming Lloyd = Kratos, coincidentally). Then cut a handful of percent for a day match and throw in Magus leeching to give Pikachu the win. The first part may bear true if Crono has dropped enough, but it may not matter if he can drain Magus's corpse enough to prevent the win.

Hmm, Crono getting 58% on Pikachu seems scarily high.

Crono/Lavos got barely 41% on Liquid/Solid in 2011 while Pikachu got 45% on Snake in 2010.

Stopping you there. Using Pikachu's percentage on Snake is flat-out the dumbest thing you could possibly do in relation to him. Snake's historical overrating could mean Pikachu is worth 10 points less than that, easily. It's preposterously useless - I have Pikachu > Crono but if that's all he's got going for him he's going to get his ass kicked.

What else can we use to compare Pikachu and Crono? I believe Crono's only 1 vs 1 since ... 2006 are his loss against Missingno and his loss with Lavos against the Snakes both first round.

So use that, then, as long as you don't go through Missingno-Sephiroth because Missingno had bandwagon factor and Missingno's only pictures are his sprites so he was at an advantage in the sprite round.

I mean, Missingno hasn't had a game since the late 90s, either, so there's no reason why he wouldn't suffer from the same aging that guys like Crono do. And CBVIII was 3.5 years ago. Is it possible to reconcile 51.51% on Yoshi then with 50.05% on Tidus now? It's a steep curve to be sure, but yes.

Of course, this creates the utterly stupid result that unless Missingno's declined faster than Crono has, Tidus could now beat Crono, but that's easy enough to fix--Missingno probably has declined faster. Yes, it was only a rerelease, but Crono does have a game more recently than Missingno. And while Rivalry Rumble can only produce vague inklings rather than hard numbers, Crono's Rivalry Rumble performance suggests that he hasn't lost too much.

...also, there's the obvious problem of whether Magus will be an issue. All signs point to no at the moment, because SFF has overwhelmingly favored the stronger entrant every time there's a 2-on-1 (see: Aerith pushing Rinoa below Hero; Kirby nearly tripling Peach in order to comfortably hold off Terra; Fox pushing Wolf into single digits (even though it didn't matter); DK beating Lightning today; maybe even Missingno doing just enough to get past Tidus with another pseudo-Nintendo in the poll. There have been other SFF matches, but the "one" was too weak in the RE match, and Noble Niners vs. jokes from their own series is a complete non-issue (and in Samus's case, character design let her SFF the "odd one out" just as badly).) The only times where the SFF didn't go overwhelmingly to one side were the two Old Square vs. New Square Final Fantasy matches. Seifer and Celes split too evenly for either to have a chance, and Kefka and Zack split evenly enough that Ryu H still finished in third despite arguably being a low midcarder. But that's "weak SFF". In a "strong SFF" situation, the voters will probably come through for the stronger character in a pinch.
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Hopefully Lightning can start making this respectable
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If Lightning can keep making a percentage recovery, she may be worth having back. She'd get a couple more percent most likely in a 24 hour match (canceling the Falco effect to some degree), and then it's down to how much, if any, you think DK's boosted.
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Lightning's coming back next Character Battle whether we like or not. That 4 seed could be legit and I doubt her nomination support could decline enough that she gets tossed into the vote-ins in a 128 character bracket, particularly since she has another game on the horizon. And she has enough of a fanbase that this match could be exactly as bad as it may look for her yet she would still have a shot in the vote-ins. (Yeah I saw Rivalry Rumble too but I've heard her "rivalry" there sucks so whatever.)

...I think it's more about whether people suggesting we get more FFXIII characters in should be argued against because it's a bad idea, or merely laughed off and ignored because nobody could possibly take them seriously.
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Lightning probably deserves to come back, I don't think you can argue 128 character over her, even if DK 60/40s her without Falco
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In my opinion, the real question Pikachu backers must ask themselves is whether Pikachu can make it past Sora in the third round, even while being leeched by Blue. For the record, I think Pika can lay down the SFF hammer on Blue and Sora has continued his downward decline that we have seen in the last character battle.

Lofty assumptions, I know, but entirely possible. Today's match hints that Fox and company may have weakened over the last three years, meaning Blue's performance was not as impressive as it may looked. Throw in Sora falling ever downward due to a lack of new games outside of a 3DS game that was tepidly received and Pikachu can surprise us as the division champ.
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I did kinda worry about Lightning's strength because no other FFXIII character managed to make this bracket, but I ignored it because, well, it was Donkey Kong and Falco in the same match.
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Falco's pic needs to be factored in. maybe im overestimating but i think if he had his results page pic instead of his poll pick he would have a 2% swing with DK
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Pikachu winning a Pikachu/Sora/Blue match. Really. Really

is this what it feels like to be completely delusional beyond all hope
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charmander6000 posted...

Here's a list of characters with 10 wins or more from A-M (2nd place in 4 ways counts except in final, each battle royal match counts, no rivalry rumble, first round this contest counted), I mostly only looked at characters that appeared in many contests though I made a couple of notable exception. I'll do the rest later.

Now for everyone...

1. Link - 42
2. Solid Snake - 37
3. Cloud Strife - 35
4. Sephiroth - 33
5. Samus Aran - 32
6. Mario - 30
7. Mega Man - 26
7. Sonic the Hedgehog - 26
9. Crono - 25
10. Bowser - 16
10. Squall Leonhart - 16
12. Dante - 15
12. Ganondorf - 15
14. Kirby - 14
14. Luigi - 14
14. Ryu - 14
17. Auron - 13
17. Sora - 13
19. Vincent Valentine - 12
19. Yoshi - 12
19. Zelda - 12
22. L-Block - 11
22. Master Chief - 11
22. Zero - 11
25. Alucard - 10
25. Pikachu - 10
25. Tifa Lockheart - 10
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Points: 63/78 Today's Picks: Zelda and Lightning

Karma Hunter posted...

Pikachu winning a Pikachu/Sora/Blue match. Really. Really

is this what it feels like to be completely delusional beyond all hope

Mark my words - if Pikachu makes it past Crono (and he will), he'll give Sora one hell of a fight.
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I think Sora would win that pretty easily. If you asked most people who they'd vote for between Blue and Pikachu I think a lot more would pick Blue. He certainly wouldn't look like Fox/Wolf's match.
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The Pokefanbase probably won't even know who to decide to rally behind against Sora. They'll be screwed beyond belief.
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charmander6000 posted...

charmander6000 posted...

Here's a list of characters with 10 wins or more from A-M (2nd place in 4 ways counts except in final, each battle royal match counts, no rivalry rumble, first round this contest counted), I mostly only looked at characters that appeared in many contests though I made a couple of notable exception. I'll do the rest later.

Now for everyone...

1. Link - 42
2. Solid Snake - 37
3. Cloud Strife - 35
4. Sephiroth - 33
5. Samus Aran - 32
6. Mario - 30
7. Mega Man - 26
7. Sonic the Hedgehog - 26
9. Crono - 25
10. Bowser - 16
10. Squall Leonhart - 16
12. Dante - 15
12. Ganondorf - 15
14. Kirby - 14
14. Luigi - 14
14. Ryu - 14
17. Auron - 13
17. Sora - 13
19. Vincent Valentine - 12
19. Yoshi - 12
19. Zelda - 12
22. L-Block - 11
22. Master Chief - 11
22. Zero - 11
25. Alucard - 10
25. Pikachu - 10
25. Tifa Lockheart - 10

the N9 look pretty safe in total wins, at least. even if Crono got so weak that he was losing regularly in the 1st/2nd round, it would still take a long time for anyone else to catch up.
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I have Pikachu > Sora as my upset special. I think it has better odds than it's been given credit, but it needs Sora to fall from even his 2010 levels, since Blue isn't going to collapse. Riku cannot come near the Zard today or it's dead, though.
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It needs Sora to be ridiculously weak. We're talking about losing to, like, possibly half strength Pikachu here. Blue is not gonna put on a Falco impression.
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Karma Hunter posted...

It needs Sora to be ridiculously weak. We're talking about losing to, like, possibly half strength Pikachu here. Blue is not gonna put on a Falco impression.

And I think... that ain't happenin'. The point's moot if Crono gets in RAGE mode and eviscerates Magus's soul to stay ahead, too.
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Karma Hunter posted...

It needs Sora to be ridiculously weak. We're talking about losing to, like, possibly half strength Pikachu here. Blue is not gonna put on a Falco impression.

alternatively: just rally

Rallying, the solution to every match

Welcome to the Contest of DRAVEN
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if there is a Pikachu/Sora/Blue match I would contemplate Blue rSFFing Pikachu (if he's even weaker, Fox suggests they're comparable) and getting second

probably not that likely but Gary Oak man
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Donkey Kong pounds Falco into the ground en route to a redemptive victory. Contest legends have been living up to their reputations and bringing the drama, flops and shocks they earned their repuations for and he's no different. He may have only managed this easy victory because Lightning has became an anti-vote magnet as a representative of the fallen Square, or he might have boosted from DKCR, either way good show. Lightning would have looked even worse if Falco hadn't shown up, even if he also bombed.

Round 1, Match 81

(7) Charizard
(12) Riku
(21) Nier

And here's the end of round one, at last. The final match does have a hope of being weirdly close if Charizard flops. But honestly, even at his 54% on Kratos base in 2010, he should be able to win this. If you use Riku/Ramza and Squirtle/Ramza, you get Riku projected at about 42% on Squirtle. I'd take Charizard over Squirtle so I'll go a little higher.

Nier will be a stronger Cavia Inc representative than Caim, but that ain't saying much.

Bracket: Charizard
Expert: Zard > Riku > Nier
Oracle: Charizard - 52.5%; Riku - 33%; Nier - 14.5%
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Charizard really has no reason not to kill this poll (other than, y'know, overratin'). It's like DRAGON and ORANGE against two dull shades of gray.
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Karma Hunter posted...

Rallying, the solution to every match

Welcome to the Contest of DRAVEN

*calls Kanz*
(imagine if Serebii manipulated an entire contest to get all the Pokemon as far as possible starting from round 1 *gasp*)

Don-key Kong!
Don-key Kong!
Don-key Kong!
Don-key Kong!
Don-key Kong!
Don-key Kong!


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Karma Hunter posted...

Charizard really has no reason not to kill this poll (other than, y'know, overratin'). It's like DRAGON and ORANGE against two dull shades of gray.

Eh, Riku isn't too bad. It probably won't happen, but I wouldn't be surprised if he won.
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Karma Hunter posted...

Charizard really has no reason not to kill this poll (other than, y'know, overratin'). It's like DRAGON and ORANGE against two dull shades of gray.

This will probably be close to a 1-on-1 match between Charizard and Riku, honestly. Nier is set in an alternate universe based on one of Drakengard's alternate endings.

The main character of Drakengard is set to be in our illustrious "bonus poll" tomorrow afternoon. Nier is probably a little more well known as a whole, but yeah, dude's gonna get killed.
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Riku winning is probably the upset of the contest. By, like, ridiculously far. Not even Link losing would top that for me.
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well, Lightning did inherit Cloud's "keep rising in %"
then again, lol lightning, so bad

God dammit DK the one time you don't disappoint, I didn't take you :(

Still kinda happy to see him win though. Didn't think he would be this strong at all.

Welp, the casuals got us this time...
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Just curious, is there an archive anywhere of the Contest Stats/Discussion topics going way back?
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can't see Riku get even close to Charizard, pokemon seems stronger than ever while KH is only getting weaker and it's a night match too.
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I'm feeling Missingno, Kratos, and Zack for turds of the round.
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Falco is at 1.85% in Indonesia.

I suspect Lightning is being stuffed.

Match LXXXI: (7) Charizard vs. (12) Riku vs. (21) Nier

Previous Contest

Charizard – 2010
64.25% against Duke Nukem
54.49% against Kratos
60.61% against L-Block
54.73% against Bowser
46.41% against Mario

Riku – 2010
62.31% against Ramza Beoulve
47.52% against Captain Falcon

Nier – N/A
N/A

Analysis

We have finally made it to the end of the first round and are essentially two-thirds done this contest. Ever since his 2010 performance Charizard has been a talking point to where he truly ranks, is he just above Kratos or is he a noble nine breaker. The expected for him is the former, but Pokemon have looked decent so far so it is possible that Charizard is even stronger than his early round performances.

With Kingdom Hearts 3 announced Riku is looking at a boost in strength sometime in the future. I do not think the boost will happen in this contest because we do not have much information on the game plus Sora did not look to have been given a boost. Still even at his peak in 2006 it would have been quite unlikely for him to score the upset.

Not sure what to expect out of Nier. While it is a type of game that may be popular on GameFAQs it does not seem to have caught the attention of the site. So we have a character from a 2010 game that the site does not care about, it is likely he is going to get crushed.

With the first round over and almost all of the fodder gone things are about to get interesting. Charizard should have an easy win, but I feel Riku will hold up well. Charizard has a big match next round and with it being an all Nintendo affair things could get wild.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Charizard > Riku and Nier

charmander6000’s Prediction: Charizard – 52.63%, Riku – 34.88%, Nier – 12.49%
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DK winning gives Zelda a better chance to beat Charziard, right? More opportunity for Zelda drones to shine!

Pokemon seems more independent to me. If anything I think Zelda's already kinda slim upset chances just went out the window.
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