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Zelda impressing, Pikachu and Missingno failing to impress, Kratos puts on a lackluster showing, Duke Nukem sucking. Watch Charizard fail to break 50% against Riku and Nier and the stats topic continue trying to justify Charizard > Mega Man. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
Then00bAvenger posted... I decided to look at round 2 and realized I was already hesitant on the first match Raiden's not fodder and will reap virtually every Link anti-vote there is available. Raiden has a much greater chance of making Link look bad - real bad - than he does of losing to a Yoshi that couldn't even get 20% the last time he was matched up with Link. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Sucks
that Yoshi is gonna be meat for Link. He is often praised on being the
best character in the Mario series which I agree on. --- 3DS Friend Code; 3480-2880-2944 ACNL Dream suite code; 7900-2284-3859 |
Karma Hunter posted... Raiden has a much greater chance of making Link look bad - real bad - than he does of losing to a Yoshi that couldn't even get 20% the last time he was matched up with Link. Eh, Yoshi should hold up better than that this time. Remember, Link was barely able to get 70% on Luigi last time. Link's SFF powers have definitely waned a bit, which makes this a bit harder to call in Raiden's favor. Still rolling with Raiden though. --- http://img.imgcake.com/leonhjpguz.jpg |
I
considered Luigi's performance, but in that match he was the only place
for anti-votes to go and this format just seems to magnify SFF more
than it has any right to. Raiden's performance against Waluigi is also
deceptive, thanks to the early and surprisingly vigorous 4chan rally -
the post-rally updates had Raiden often doubling him. If nothing else, Revengeance is probably worth something and he stands out like crazy in that sea of green. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Yeah,
I think Raiden's a bit stronger now due to REVENGEANCE as well, but
Yoshi's still probably a decent bit stronger than him as is. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
He really doesn't though. He looks like an unappealing piece of scrap metal against two bright and happy Nintendo characters. I'm taking Raiden > Yoshi regardless. --- Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC |
Oh
yeah, Yoshi v Raiden is no contest for Yoshi. But unless Raiden just
completely falls off a cliff, even in relation to earlier years, if Link
isn't able to SFF Yoshi enough to lose to Raiden I'm going to be really disappointed in the so-called 'King of SFF'. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Am I the only one who thinks that Raiden and Shepard won't benefit at all from stand-out factor? In Shepard's case, he just looks like a Generic McDude put against two distinctive-looking Japanese females. One of which should be quite iconic. Aeris > Shepard still doesn't sound right though, even though I'm supporting Aeris there. Yeah I remember switching to Aeris > Shepard and Vincent > Sonic out of my own (newfound) like for both the FFVII characters involved. I backed out of the former, but not out of the latter. I figured that since I had just become an instant Vincent fan on finding him and the board was picking him for an upset special, that I'd just go with it. --- Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC |
I know you enjoy being annoying, but please stop intentionally misusing terms. --- http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/8/22/2094c2de-bae8-4f5b-9f27-67eaff0aaeaf.jpg |
Okay I should have probably just said comparatively generic Western male. --- Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC |
Sticking
out like a sore thumb isn't about being a bright and shiny character,
it's about standing apart from the chaff. Saying things like "Raiden
doesn't stand out from Link/Yoshi" is just so vapid. Reminder that this picture: http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-35.jpg Resulted in *this* little gem: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3278 Liquid doesn't even look good there, but he's a world apart from the other characters. Edit: Or how could you forget about this little gem: http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-25.jpg Resulting in this: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3268 (Luigi no chance) --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Snake is weak as hell if he can only beat Kirby by that much. --- Fine! I'll go to the store and get your Goddamn drain cleaner! Character Battle IX Tingle Victory Parade - the journey is over.... |
You expect FFVII fans to know the difference between Snake and Big Boss. They can't even distinguish the gender of Sephiroth. --- The cycle of life and death continues. We will live. And they will die. |
The more people think he's Snake the better it'll be against Luigi so I don't mind Green dude can barely even break 52% on Kirbster after all --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Let's just settle this right now what gender is Sephiroth --- F*** BT |
Match LXXX: (4) Lightning vs. (15) Donkey Kong vs. (24) Falco Lombardi Previous Contest Lightning 2010 36.14% against Sonic the Hedgehog Donkey Kong 2010 43.71% against Vivi Falco Lombardi 2010 18.96% against Mario Analysis Falco gets fed to another Nintendo character where he cannot win. Falco may be able to avoid SFF against Donkey Kong, he is a bit of a fan favourite in Melee and Marth was able to withstand a massive SFF hit. Still the only thing Falco will be doing here is acting like a massive anchor on Donkey Kong possibly giving Lightning and illegitimate win. Lightning made her first appearance in a contest before her game was released in North America and she was still able to put 36% on Sonic. The big question now is where is Lightning now. She can either be stronger now that the game is released plus she has appeared in other games or she can be weaker due to Final Fantasy XIII not living up to the hype and the average reaction towards her has become more apathetic. If it is the former she should win easily, but if it is the latter Donkey Kong would have a decent chance if Falco was not in the poll. Donkey Kong has finally appeared in a game people like with Donkey Kong Country Returns. However, the game might not give him a big boost because he is quite well known already and the game was released at a time where the Wii was becoming a joke on GameFAQs. Regardless Donkey Kong does have decent strength and would not lose by much to 2010 Lightning. I feel Falco ruined a match that could have had a lot of debate. While it is reasonable that Lightning is even stronger than her 2010 self if she remained constant of even dropped a little Donkey Kong would be here for the upset. Now the only way Donkey Kong can win is if Lightning really dropped in strength, which I guess is possible, but I do not see happening. charmander6000s Bracket: Lightning > Donkey Kong and Falco Lombardi charmander6000s Prediction: Lightning 43.66%, Donkey Kong 36.73%, Falco Lombardi 19.61% --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 63/78 Today's Picks: Zelda and Lightning |
My
main deal with Lightning is this seems like a match that she could just
straight up drop - even with Falco - but it's such an obvious Nintendo v
Square proxy that I can't see her folding completely. And that's
probably enough for the win. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Karma Hunter posted... Sticking out like a sore thumb isn't about being a bright and shiny character, it's about standing apart from the chaff. Saying things like "Raiden doesn't stand out from Link/Yoshi" is just so vapid. I understand where you're coming from. I think I was just thinking of various times this contest where sticking out like a sore thumb didn't benefit the character in question. Master Chief's match comes to mind, but I remember others. I think Juliet Starling as well. EDIT: Also Sarah Kerrigan, Big Daddy, Otacon, and Sandbag. --- Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC |
You don't know what it means to stand out, so stop arguing the point. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
MC
and Juliet probably do *worse* without the setups that they had. That
they did so poorly despite those factors reflects very badly on their
strengths. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Also Lightning gonna break 50% today --- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/26leonpngat.png http://img.imgcake.com/nio/daigohadoupnguj.png |
What
about Juliet really stood out anyway. Being paired with Tharja was one
of the few match possibilities that actually cancels out most of what
would make her stand out --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
Oh
right, and the other big note - DK may have very well disappointed in
every single contest match he's had, ever... with the possibility of the
Vercetti and MC matchups, both of which he choked away anyhow. Magus's
got nothing on this guy. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Karma Hunter posted... MC and Juliet probably do *worse* without the setups that they had. That they did so poorly despite those factors reflects very badly on their strengths. You're probably right. I just find it mindless to assume that any character that stands out will overperform, though then again you cite a good example with that Liquid Snake match. I think those three matches in a row in Crono's division where Kerrigan, Big Daddy, and Otacon all fared worse than expected despite standing out in their match pics. --- Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC |
Then00bAvenger posted... What about Juliet really stood out anyway. Being paired with Tharja was one of the few match possibilities that actually cancels out most of what would make her stand out I remember Ngamer saying that her light brown skin color contrasted from the darker pics that the other two characters got. He fooled me into picking Juliet for first (not that I have anything against Ngamer or mean to specifically blame him!), marking my first -6 in the Expert Challenge. At least I had Tharja in my bracket. --- Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC |
Kerrigan didn't stand out, Missile
stood out and absolutely rocked the poll. Otacon did better than I
expected, that Magus upset was asking too much from a new, ridiculously
weak MGS character. Big Daddy both dropped and was massively overrated
to begin with, so there was no way standing out would have made him look
good no matter what the pic disparity. I'm of the opinion that STF is a fairly mild effect in all but the most extreme cases (usually, you're looking at fanbase splits causing more of a problem than standing out in the match), but Raiden is an extremely obvious example of it, going back to the main point. He's so different from Link/Yoshi that he changes the entire dynamic of that poll. Not enough to win obviously, but I'd be stunned if Yoshi threatened. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Karma Hunter posted... Oh right, and the other big note - DK may have very well disappointed in every single contest match he's had, ever... with the possibility of the Vercetti and MC matchups, both of which he choked away anyhow. Magus's got nothing on this guy. You got that right. --- "Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
DK has games people actually like now with the great Donkey Kong Country Returns, surely that would count for something right right --- F*** BT |
TheKoolAidShoto posted... DK has games people actually like now with the great Donkey Kong Country Returns, surely that would count for something right He might not lose to Falco! --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
If only he could've gotten Returns before the site turned against the Wii! --- http://i52.tinypic.com/2zfiu09.gif http://i54.tinypic.com/10729w2.gif |
Nintendo
characters, unless they're not well-known, very rarely boost from games
as it is. About the only solid example of a game being tied to a
longtime Ninty character's strength was Twilight Princess with Link -
and even then, it wasn't even the game, it was the E3 trailer and
deafening hype juicing his strength. Everyone knows who Donkey Kong is, he's been in all the Smashes... he's just not liked by the Nintendo fanbase. That's basically it. Unless DKCR got some penetration and actively did something to change people's opinions of him, he's gonna be as sorry as ever. Edit: I would have also added Samus and Metroid Prime... but that's just the point - Samus wasn't that well-known outside of Smash, and the MP series vaulted her from middling around Sonic level to the upper tiers of the elite. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
How can people not like Donkey Kong tho He's a big cool ape wearing a f***in' tie with his initials on it, for God's sake http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/71/DoK.jpg/250px-DoK.jpg --- F*** BT |
Speaking
of which, is Stand Out Factor going to benefit Caim any during the
bonus match? He certainly looks different from his goofy-looking
competition. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
There's
no such thing as NintendoFAQs. Just MarioLinkSamusFAQs. Wouldn't be
surprised if Donkey Kong could barely keep up with Falco. --- Brawl FC - 1332 8069 6690 http://i.imgur.com/OZ9aS.png |
Where does Pokemon fit into the MarioLinkSamusFAQs losing to Crono, that's where --- F*** BT |
LinkMarioSamusFAQs? This is something I can support! *imagines what gamefaqs would be like with LMS in charge* --- Fine! I'll go to the store and get your Goddamn drain cleaner! Character Battle IX Tingle Victory Parade - the journey is over.... |
GloryChaos posted... MarioLinkSamusFAQs. A place where thousands of different versions of LMS use the message boards --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
The
Pokemon are a real wild card, but I feel this format really plays to
their strengths (which is why I have them going so far). On their best
days they can give arguably two of the top three characters in the
contest a scare... while on their worse they can't break 54.5% on
Kratos. Definitely to be underestimated at one's peril, especially with
good bracket setups (which this contest has set up for them in spades). --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Karma Hunter posted... Nintendo characters, unless they're not well-known, very rarely boost from games as it is. About the only solid example of a game being tied to a longtime Ninty character's strength was Twilight Princess with Link - and even then, it wasn't even the game, it was the E3 trailer and deafening hype juicing his strength. I see your point, but it could be argued that a huge reason for Donkey Kong being weak was that he was pretty much irrelevant compared to Link/Mario/Samus/all those darn Pokemon in between 1996 and 2010. Now DK is a huge series for Nintendo again. Though at the same time, Nintendo itself has sunk. And DK is likely to be hit by the problem. Never mind how weak Super Mario Galaxy was in Best Game Ever 2 (I think it would do much better now, but that's only based on how it resisted SFF from Brawl/TP in the Game of the Generation poll and did 10% better on Twilight Princess than it did in Game of the Decade, despite the Brawl/TP ratio remaining pretty much the same). Serious question: Am I the only one who thinks that Brawl, Metal Gear Solid 4, and Twilight Princess have been gradually dropping in strength? --- Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC |
Oh,
and I think I'd take Marston safely over Travis Touchdown, so Zelda
looks to have rebounded a bit. The Charizard match probably deserves
more chatter, even though I'm still expecting big things from Charizard
in order to neuter it (speaking of standing out in the picture, geez,
lopsided much?). --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
I think it was because of Zelda disappointing last time + POKEFEAR that caused Charizard to be the overwhelming favorite there. --- Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC |
It's
best to wait and see which Charizard we are dealing with, if we get the
one that easily won over Bowser Zelda does not have much of a chance. Not that I expect to see that Charizard. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 63/78 Today's Picks: Zelda and Lightning |
does
anyone else think Lightning could finish third? she is probably very
weak, as weak as FF12 characters the other hated FF game. I think her
match against Sonic is misleading people, but that match was the result
of pure FF13 hype which at that time was a massive thing . |
Lightning finishing third would be one of the biggest bombs we've seen in a long, long time. --- http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7760/222bj.jpg |
25 mins until Lighting is dominated by a big gorilla --- F*** BT |
23 minutes until Lightning... does okay --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
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