Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1114

#451 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 8/17/2013 9:33:17 AM | message detail
If Slippy was here instead, this might've reached single digit %
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#452 | tennisboy213 | Posted 8/17/2013 9:33:23 AM | message detail
That Falco pic is horrendous. It has to be contributing somewhat to this horrible performance.
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#453 | GloryChaos | Posted 8/17/2013 9:33:25 AM | message detail
You know what Final Fantasy character would be winning here?

Exdeath. Hell, replace Lightning with Bartz and he'd probably win!
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#454 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 8/17/2013 9:33:58 AM | message detail
DK is laying on an SFF beatdown. This is amazing. Banana stocks rising.
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#455 | LeonhartFour (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/17/2013 9:34:12 AM | message detail
Slippy would be in single digits regardless of who was in the poll

Or even if Slippy was the only option
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#456 | HaRRicH | Posted 8/17/2013 9:34:18 AM | message detail
I'm guessing the strength we see from Lightning today all comes from FF13. There were almost no signs of any other character boosting from a game in 2012 so FF13-2 likely falls in line there. She was in both Dissidia-games, but that seems to have only affected old-Square if it had an effect at all. Theatrhythm...whatever.

What's the only time we've seen Lightning between these releases?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4480


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#457 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/17/2013 9:34:26 AM | message detail
I just realized we've now got the Zelda/DK/Zard Nintendo logjam next round.

Well we'll definitely see how Zard does against Nintendo when he's not on HG/SS steroids.
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#458 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/17/2013 9:34:50 AM | message detail
Lightning vs. Balthier

Place your bets.
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#459 | LeonhartFour (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/17/2013 9:35:29 AM | message detail
I'd take Lightning. She hasn't lost to Ada Wong twice...yet.
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#460 | swordz9 | Posted 8/17/2013 9:36:05 AM | message detail
I'd take Lightning in that scenario since people hate XII just as much if not more than XIII.
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#461 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/17/2013 9:37:05 AM | message detail | (edited)
People still deluding themselves into believing Pikachu is a near-elite, what does it take to disabuse this notion

CHARIZARD is a near-elite maybe, Pikachu isn't even in the discussion.
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#462 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/17/2013 9:36:56 AM | message detail
Updated Top 10

Top 10 Lowest Night Individual Votes
1. Chester – Round 1 – 924
2. Caim – Round 1 – 1586
3. Commander Video – Round 1 – 1814
4. Sissel – Round 1 – 2426
5. Yuri Hyuga – Round 1 – 2535
6. Peacock – Round 1 – 2685
7. Francis York Morgan – Round 1 – 2692
8. Senator Armstrong – Round 1 – 2721
9. Sackboy – Round 1 – 2799
10. Welkin Gunther – Round 1 – 2999
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#463 | pjbasis | Posted 8/17/2013 9:37:13 AM | message detail
swordz9 posted...
I'd take Lightning in that scenario since people hate XII just as much if not more than XIII.


No they don't.

But Lightning would still win.
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#464 | paulg235 | Posted 8/17/2013 9:37:17 AM | message detail
**** it, taking Balthier just because.
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#465 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/17/2013 9:37:28 AM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
So does this make Master Chief the biggest choker now or does 2007 still keep him above DK?


Considering how the other four "chokers" all performed better than expected (though I'll admit I thought Magus vs. Otacon was going to be really close), I'd say the answer is a resounding yes. Chief is the biggest choker ever now.

I think I was seriously postulating after Magus and Kefka won that Master Chief and Donkey Kong would both win their matches in similar fashion. Though I thought that Chief > Yuna was more likely than DK > Lightning, oops. Either way, at least I was half right.

I did not switch away from Lightning > DK in the Expert Challenge though.
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#466 | GloryChaos | Posted 8/17/2013 9:37:39 AM | message detail
swordz9 posted...
Man how is Falco this bad. He should be thrashing DK.


That Falco pic is pretty terrible. But I don't think he'd win anyway. DK's contest history is weird as hell because he honestly should be more popular than some of Nintendo's other series. Star Fox sales have been bad for the last three games and I'm pretty much convinced that those characters benefit mainly off of Smash Bros. the same way Ness and Captain Falcon do. At least DK has something else going for him.

If it wasn't for smash bros. I would honestly guess that F-Zero and Star Fox would be forgotten from character battles altogether.
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#467 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/17/2013 9:38:04 AM | message detail
I'd take Lightning over Balthier because whether people hate 13 or not, at least they have an opinion on it.

FF12 just gets utter indifference. Nobody seems to care one way or the other.
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#468 | swordz9 | Posted 8/17/2013 9:38:10 AM | message detail
pjbasis posted...
swordz9 posted...
I'd take Lightning in that scenario since people hate XII just as much if not more than XIII.


No they don't.

But Lightning would still win.

Yes they do. A ton of people think FFXII is awful in story and characters. Balthier is probably the only character most people even like more than a little bit.
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#469 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 8/17/2013 9:38:14 AM | message detail
On the other hand, it's only Nintendo that has been able to SFF stuff this hard. Doesn't necessarily mean it will be the same for Square characters. There's still some hope for Pikachu. Not to mention, taking a great performance by a Nintendo icon as a point against another Nintendo icon is kinda unfair.
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#470 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/17/2013 9:38:41 AM | message detail
Chief's 2007 run puts him above levels DK will never be able to reach. DK would have lost to everyone MC has lost to, too.
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#471 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 8/17/2013 9:38:48 AM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Slippy would be in single digits regardless of who was in the poll

Or even if Slippy was the only option


Can we get Caim out of the poll and put Slippy in instead?
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#472 | LeonhartFour (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/17/2013 9:40:04 AM | message detail
Trend chart for the day match:

Time | Marston | Zelda | Sackboy | Votes
0:05 | 23.72% | 64.48% | 11.80% | 898
1:00 | 24.89% | 64.16% | 10.96% | 4846
2:00 | 27.50% | 63.61% | 8.88% | 2905
3:00 | 27.44% | 60.78% | 11.78% | 2292
4:00 | 27.53% | 60.08% | 12.38% | 1736
5:00 | 30.86% | 57.12% | 12.02% | 1481
6:00 | 27.55% | 60.65% | 11.81% | 1296
7:00 | 29.64% | 57.49% | 12.87% | 1282
8:00 | 25.49% | 63.05% | 11.46% | 1483
9:00 | 28.14% | 59.99% | 11.87% | 1727
10:00 | 25.91% | 63.61% | 10.48% | 1918
11:00 | 27.50% | 60.87% | 11.64% | 2011
12:00 | 27.83% | 60.84% | 11.33% | 1933

Match goes pretty much as expected. Zelda does well at the start and at the finish. Marston does pretty well overnight.

X-Stats:

Zelda – 50.00%
John Marston – 30.56%
Sackboy – 15.42%

Zelda's prediction percentage was 71.72%
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#473 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 8/17/2013 9:40:09 AM | message detail
Slippy/Peppy/Da Great Leon
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#474 | pjbasis | Posted 8/17/2013 9:40:22 AM | message detail
FFXII would beat XIII in a poll
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#475 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/17/2013 9:41:06 AM | message detail
squexa posted...
It's kinda weird how two of the biggest upsets this round have been by Kefka and DK.


The casuals probably called both correctly.
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#476 | LeonhartFour (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/17/2013 9:41:31 AM | message detail
Friendly reminder that FFXII barely got 55% on Crisis Core and needed the night vote to break 40% on Portal.
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#477 | LeonhartFour (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/17/2013 9:41:47 AM | message detail
TheKoolAidShoto posted...
Slippy/Peppy/Da Great Leon


I got dis
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#478 | Sorozone | Posted 8/17/2013 9:42:15 AM | message detail
Argh, had a bad feeling before I voted.

Maybe Lightning can at least make it close.
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#479 | pjbasis | Posted 8/17/2013 9:42:35 AM | message detail
I don't know about 3 years ago, but I think XII's stock has risen since then at least compared to XIII's.

Lightning really should not be losing unless DK goes out and does amazing next round
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#480 | LeonhartFour (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/17/2013 9:43:20 AM | message detail
XII's stock hasn't gone anywhere.
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#481 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/17/2013 9:43:26 AM | message detail
HaRRicH posted...
I'm guessing the strength we see from Lightning today all comes from FF13. There were almost no signs of any other character boosting from a game in 2012 so FF13-2 likely falls in line there. She was in both Dissidia-games, but that seems to have only affected old-Square if it had an effect at all. Theatrhythm...whatever.

What's the only time we've seen Lightning between these releases?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4480


Chester VS Barthandelus: who you got?


Lightning wasn't in the first Dissidia. I heard she was initially planned to be in it, but Dissidia predating FFXIII put a stop to that.
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#482 | Achromatic | Posted 8/17/2013 9:43:58 AM | message detail
People still, after all of these years, don't get that Nintendo is a tiered system of love.

If DK gets 10% in the next round it would be a great thing for him!
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#483 | swordz9 | Posted 8/17/2013 9:44:35 AM | message detail
Yeah, XII hasn't gone anywhere aside from down probably.
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#484 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/17/2013 9:45:08 AM | message detail
XII would probably beat XIII just because it's not XIII but it's still weak.
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#485 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 8/17/2013 9:45:40 AM | message detail
Tomorrow night, I'm totally going to make a badass DK pic just to see how much of Char's strength is looking awesome.
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#486 | LeonhartFour (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/17/2013 9:46:07 AM | message detail
MegatokyoEd posted...
XII would probably beat XIII just because it's not XIII but it's still weak.


I'd argue XIII could beat XII because it's not XII.

They're both polarizing games.
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#487 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/17/2013 9:47:21 AM | message detail | (edited)
Roughly spotting Lightning... 40% on DK in a Falco-less match over 24 hours, that'd wind up with her being around Liquid Snake 2010 level. Better than fodder, but yeah.

Of course, the more you boost DK the better Lightning looks, if you're buying that.
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#488 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/17/2013 9:47:14 AM | message detail
And with this, I've now underestimated DK two contests in a row. First he broke 60% in a debated match in Rivalry Rumble, and now this.

Why do I keep underestimating DK again? Wait I know.
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#489 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/17/2013 9:47:20 AM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
MegatokyoEd posted...
XII would probably beat XIII just because it's not XIII but it's still weak.


I'd argue XIII could beat XII because it's not XII.

They're both polarizing games.


XIII gets far, far more bitter hater than XII. Most people just don't care about XII.
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#490 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 8/17/2013 9:48:02 AM | message detail
Excuse me one moment, I have something very important to say.






FLOP

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#491 | LeonhartFour (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/17/2013 9:49:12 AM | message detail
XII definitely gets its fair share of hate. Game literally couldn't even beat IX right after the game came out.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/2593

Seriously, you don't let Crisis Core get 45% on you if the fans don't dislike you.
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#492 | WhiteLens | Posted 8/17/2013 9:49:32 AM | message detail
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Holy crap, my alt AND my main account are now the expert leaderboard! Did that many people pick Sakcboy? Though I guess picking Rikku > ? Block the match prior did help.

Though my main might drop off if there are some people who picked DK....
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#493 | Crimson Dragoon | Posted 8/17/2013 9:52:41 AM | message detail
I am absolutely adoring this Lightning choke bee tee dubs.
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#494 | swordz9 | Posted 8/17/2013 9:54:25 AM | message detail
It's more like Falco choking which is resulting in her loss. The only time she was in a match was before her game was out anyways so it's not a good thing to base her on that since nobody knew what she was like or anything. You could probably throw Noctis in here and he'd look decent with FFXV hype.
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#495 | spooky96 | Posted 8/17/2013 9:55:28 AM | message detail
Holy snap

I have DK winning in my bracket!
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#496 | LeonhartFour (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/17/2013 9:55:41 AM | message detail
The problem is that she needed Falco to not choke in order to win.
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#497 | redrocket | Posted 8/17/2013 9:55:49 AM | message detail
swordz9 posted...
You could probably throw Noctis in here and he'd look decent with FFXV hype.


People have pretty much abandoned Square at this point so probably not.
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#498 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/17/2013 9:56:02 AM | message detail
So that's that. Pretty much every character from a game released after 2009 has disappointed if not outright bombed.

For all you know, both FFXIII and DKCR have extremely low playrates on this site, and people just look "hey, it's the main character of that hated game vs. a recently resurrected gaming icon". Or perhaps FFXIII is what made GameFAQs swear off of all games released afterwards.
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#499 | Denzokuken | Posted 8/17/2013 9:56:09 AM | message detail
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#500 | LeonhartFour (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/17/2013 9:56:12 AM | message detail
All my hype for FFXV
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