Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1112

#351 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 8/15/2013 5:16:49 PM | message detail
6
6
6

what an evil match
---
A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice.
#352 | OrangeCrush980 | Posted 8/15/2013 5:17:03 PM | message detail
LOL these two are literally deadlocked without rallying

Literally
---
If you believe in the Lord FE7 and you accept FE7 as the Savior of video games and are 100% proud of it, put this in your sig.
#353 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/15/2013 5:21:35 PM | message detail
Boko with the comeback
---
BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls
Points: 60/74 Today's Picks: Jill Valentine and Zero
#354 | kinsho3 | Posted 8/15/2013 5:22:10 PM | message detail
Ugh, no, not another lead change.....
---
Drop it to the floor...
#355 | Sorozone | Posted 8/15/2013 5:24:40 PM | message detail
And go figure another post on /v/.
---
http://i.imgur.com/32RNLnc.gif
#356 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 8/15/2013 5:25:25 PM | message detail
People actually care enough about these characters to rally?
---
A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice.
#357 | Sorozone | Posted 8/15/2013 5:27:45 PM | message detail
For Boko, apparently.
---
http://i.imgur.com/32RNLnc.gif
#358 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 8/15/2013 5:27:52 PM | message detail
#359 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/15/2013 5:28:27 PM | message detail
kinsho3 posted...
Welp, this is over.

And I'm gonna start jumping on this Lloyd > Kratos train with some of the others around here. PIKACHU = BEAST


actually the whole point of me asking about Crono's % on Snake was for that reason
if you assume Crono=Squall, that 40.5% is awfully close to Pikachu's adjusted value....!
#360 | GloryChaos | Posted 8/15/2013 5:29:34 PM | message detail
Boko refuses to give in.
---
Brawl FC - 1332 8069 6690
http://i.imgur.com/OZ9aS.png
#361 | im317 | Posted 8/15/2013 5:30:19 PM | message detail
watch Kratos never have the lead all match then win by 10
---
"L-Block 2007 Character Battle Champion"Always remember
"L-Block, shaped like a boot to kick your ass"
#362 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 8/15/2013 5:31:23 PM | message detail
im317 posted...
watch Kratos never have the lead all match then win by 10


But he already had the lead.
---
Hey, its that SuperNiceDog! Congrats to the Guru 2011 winner
#363 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 8/15/2013 5:32:06 PM | message detail | (edited)
+3 for Boko, it's literally over.

Don't f*** with FF5.
---
Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012
Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64
#364 | im317 | Posted 8/15/2013 5:35:03 PM | message detail
BK_Sheikah00 posted...
im317 posted...
watch Kratos never have the lead all match then win by 10


But he already had the lead.


when? before the freeze? or did i miss it well i ate dinner?
---
"L-Block 2007 Character Battle Champion"Always remember
"L-Block, shaped like a boot to kick your ass"
#365 | Xuxon | Posted 8/15/2013 5:36:23 PM | message detail
it was like a half hour ago, he had the lead for 3 updates by single digits
---
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxkdr0uNc91qlu5jao1_r1_400.gif
#366 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 8/15/2013 5:39:13 PM | message detail
So there's been a 158-vote spread so far this match between these two.
---
Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012
Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64
#367 | Qwaar | Posted 8/15/2013 5:39:53 PM | message detail
Good grief, is Kratos going to lose this now?
---
XBL Gamertag - Tiirshak
#368 | GloryChaos | Posted 8/15/2013 5:41:25 PM | message detail
I'm surprised nobody is saying that Bako is getting stuffed all of a sudden. Just goes to show that nobody had any real expectations for Kratos to begin with.
---
Brawl FC - 1332 8069 6690
http://i.imgur.com/OZ9aS.png
#369 | nintendogirl1 (Moderator) | Posted 8/15/2013 5:42:50 PM | message detail
Yeah, this match has been painfully obviously stagnant all day. Kratos is slightly stronger but they're pretty close to dead even so very little movement either way. But whenever Kratos does get close another rally starts up and Boko pulls away some more. And then Kratos spends the next hour chipping away at 20 votes again.
---
*shrug*
#370 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/15/2013 5:44:27 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
kinsho3 posted...
Welp, this is over.

And I'm gonna start jumping on this Lloyd > Kratos train with some of the others around here. PIKACHU = BEAST


actually the whole point of me asking about Crono's % on Snake was for that reason
if you assume Crono=Squall, that 40.5% is awfully close to Pikachu's adjusted value....!


Look at the adjusted stats. Pikachu's adjusted value is a completely baseless guess; he's not that strong.
---
http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif
Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer)
#371 | Qwaar | Posted 8/15/2013 5:48:01 PM | message detail
Nice cut there.
---
XBL Gamertag - Tiirshak
#372 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/15/2013 5:54:18 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
1337gamerpr0 posted...
kinsho3 posted...
Welp, this is over.

And I'm gonna start jumping on this Lloyd > Kratos train with some of the others around here. PIKACHU = BEAST


actually the whole point of me asking about Crono's % on Snake was for that reason
if you assume Crono=Squall, that 40.5% is awfully close to Pikachu's adjusted value....!


Look at the adjusted stats. Pikachu's adjusted value is a completely baseless guess; he's not that strong.


yeah I saw it, both adjusted stats had him around ~40%
#373 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/15/2013 6:02:11 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
1337gamerpr0 posted...
kinsho3 posted...
Welp, this is over.

And I'm gonna start jumping on this Lloyd > Kratos train with some of the others around here. PIKACHU = BEAST


actually the whole point of me asking about Crono's % on Snake was for that reason
if you assume Crono=Squall, that 40.5% is awfully close to Pikachu's adjusted value....!


Look at the adjusted stats. Pikachu's adjusted value is a completely baseless guess; he's not that strong.


yeah I saw it, both adjusted stats had him around ~40%


Honestly if you wanted to make a more solid proportion I'd use Yoshi's overperformance on Sprite Snake and Sprite Snake/Pikachu. Pikachu probably had more of an overperformance (the pic is much more unbalanced in his favor and he was beating Snake for awhile) but Snake is stronger than he was in 2006 so it shouldn't be terrible.

But currently it's just ridiculous. We've got things like Pikachu > Auron, Pikachu > Bowser/Luigi/Yoshi, and Pikachu > Mega Man X with Pika's adjusted value in both sets of stats.
---
http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif
Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer)
#374 | tgs2 | Posted 8/15/2013 6:20:16 PM | message detail
How would the stats look if you adjusted 10% instead of 5%? 10% looks like the same difference in strength that Frog/Yoshi experienced and they are probably in the same group of characters that 2010 Pikachu would be in comparatively speaking strength wise.
#375 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/15/2013 6:27:06 PM | message detail
Pikachu getting 35% on Snake?
hmm....dunno about that
#376 | raginbull911 | Posted 8/15/2013 6:30:18 PM | message detail
I blinked and Kratos is +24? What the heck?
---
I pwn you all!
#377 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/15/2013 6:32:25 PM | message detail
tgs2 posted...
How would the stats look if you adjusted 10% instead of 5%? 10% looks like the same difference in strength that Frog/Yoshi experienced and they are probably in the same group of characters that 2010 Pikachu would be in comparatively speaking strength wise.


They look better, but that's a lot more than many people want to tolerate. I'm not bashing the adjustments, because they were made conservative deliberately (because of characters like Pikachu who there's not a lot of good ways to adjust).

People should be very, very careful however. Yoshi was in this position too. In 2006, Squall faced Snake in R2. Yoshi faced Snake in R3. Yoshi outscored Squall, and is actually projected to get 50.5% on him in the 2k6 stats. When they met two years later, Squall blew him out with 58% of the vote.

This implies using a constant Yoshi and Squall that Yoshi increased to 42.84% on Snake from a base of 35.74%. And that was probably one of the tamest Sprite Snake disparities we've seen. Compare this:

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb2k6/cb553.jpg

to this

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb8/cb8-109.jpg
---
http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif
Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer)
#378 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/15/2013 6:38:13 PM | message detail
thing is, knocking it down 10% instead of 5% puts him on 2010 Dante's level
pretty sure Pikachu is stronger than that (also why does Mega Man X not have ANY adjustment)
#379 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/15/2013 6:43:12 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
thing is, knocking it down 10% instead of 5% puts him on 2010 Dante's level
pretty sure Pikachu is stronger than that (also why does Mega Man X not have ANY adjustment)


Dante has been historically stronger than Pikachu - this is also why the Squirtle match is dangerous.

Pikachu actually needs a lot of boosting in order to get to the levels that people are envisioning him at these days. He got 42% on Leon Kennedy in 2007. He got 55% on Ike in 2008. We have no idea how much 61% on 2010 Commander Shepard is worth.

He's a big yellow question mark, and people need to be prepared for the possibility that he's a bust.
---
http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif
Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer)
#380 | Qwaar | Posted 8/15/2013 6:45:26 PM | message detail
Any chance of a Lenneth upset of the Cube? Or should I just go with the flow and go for a Cube victory?
---
XBL Gamertag - Tiirshak
#381 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/15/2013 6:46:49 PM | message detail
speaking of Dante though, what the hell was Ulti's writeup on Ryu/Dante
anyway this match is so stupid
#382 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/15/2013 6:47:27 PM | message detail
I think there's an outside chance Lenneth might to do something scary, but it's certain;y not worth risking. I think she's a very safe bet to defeat Claptrap for second, though looking at the Oracle, at least a few people have her coming in dead last (really disagree there).
---
http://i.imgur.com/a4GuDV3.gif
#383 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/15/2013 6:48:42 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
speaking of Dante though, what the hell was Ulti's writeup on Ryu/Dante
anyway this match is so stupid


Took place during that hockey championship, which actually had marked effects on the match that the writeup doesn't do justice to. It's almost like an in-joke.
---
http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif
Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer)
#384 | nintendogirl1 (Moderator) | Posted 8/15/2013 6:51:48 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
1337gamerpr0 posted...
speaking of Dante though, what the hell was Ulti's writeup on Ryu/Dante
anyway this match is so stupid


Took place during that hockey championship, which actually had marked effects on the match that the writeup doesn't do justice to. It's almost like an in-joke.


That match was f***ing hilarious. You could literally see the Canadians en masse checking the site in breaks between hockey. Literally astounding, we may never see anything like it again.
---
*shrug*
#385 | xp1337 | Posted 8/15/2013 6:53:17 PM | message detail
Huh. This match seems to have become quite interesting!
---
xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out?
GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX
#386 | nintendogirl1 (Moderator) | Posted 8/15/2013 6:54:59 PM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
Huh. This match seems to have become quite interesting!


No it's not. Boko will get the rally it needs to win at the end and we're just marking time till the next poll.
---
*shrug*
#387 | Advokaiser | Posted 8/15/2013 6:55:11 PM | message detail
Kratos took the lead!
---
SuperNiceDog wags his tail better than your regular, standard dog.
-If someone scares the hell out of you, then are you protected by God?
#388 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 8/15/2013 6:55:38 PM | message detail
More like he's in the process of losing the lead
---
A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice.
#389 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/15/2013 6:55:52 PM | message detail
Man don't any of you care enough about your expert picks to help out Kratos at the end of this <_<
---
http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif
Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer)
#390 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/15/2013 6:56:49 PM | message detail
Then00bAvenger posted...
More like he's in the process of losing the lead


GAINED THE LEAD
LOST THE L-oh wait he hasn't lost it just yet
#391 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 8/15/2013 6:57:17 PM | message detail
I went no pick so it doesn't affect me anyway.

Well I suppose the one with the least amount of picks for 2nd winning would help the most but I have no idea who that is
---
A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice.
#392 | nintendogirl1 (Moderator) | Posted 8/15/2013 6:58:53 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Man don't any of you care enough about your expert picks to help out Kratos at the end of this <_<


I took Boko.
---
*shrug*
#393 | xp1337 | Posted 8/15/2013 6:59:31 PM | message detail
nintendogirl1 posted...
xp1337 posted...
Huh. This match seems to have become quite interesting!


No it's not. Boko will get the rally it needs to win at the end and we're just marking time till the next poll.

...there's actually a boko rally?
---
xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out?
GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX
#394 | nintendogirl1 (Moderator) | Posted 8/15/2013 6:59:54 PM | message detail
Also, I was really confused when I quoted that because it said it was by KH, but I assumed Yo posted it. Stupid sigs...
---
*shrug*
#395 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/15/2013 7:01:13 PM | message detail
I still haven't even voted yet, so I have a vote waiting to to help out Kratos if it looks like he has a chance to win. Since I have him in 2nd and 3rd place in my Expert Challenge.
---
Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~
Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ!
#396 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/15/2013 7:02:07 PM | message detail
If I can confuse one more person today into thinking I'm yoblazer it'll be a hat trick
---
http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif
Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer)
#397 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/15/2013 7:04:09 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
If I can confuse one more person today into thinking I'm yoblazer it'll be a hat trick


*not tricked*
come at me bro

-LusterSoldier- posted...
I still haven't even voted yet, so I have a vote waiting to to help out Kratos if it looks like he has a chance to win. Since I have him in 2nd and 3rd place in my Expert Challenge.


hurry up with it then, he's barely holding the lead
#398 | nintendogirl1 (Moderator) | Posted 8/15/2013 7:05:19 PM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
I still haven't even voted yet, so I have a vote waiting to to help out Kratos if it looks like he has a chance to win. Since I have him in 2nd and 3rd place in my Expert Challenge.


Who will you vote if it doesn't look like he has a chance to win?
---
*shrug*
#399 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/15/2013 7:06:12 PM | message detail
nintendogirl1 posted...
-LusterSoldier- posted...
I still haven't even voted yet, so I have a vote waiting to to help out Kratos if it looks like he has a chance to win. Since I have him in 2nd and 3rd place in my Expert Challenge.


Who will you vote if it doesn't look like he has a chance to win?


I'd assume Zero
#400 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/15/2013 7:08:39 PM | message detail
Qwaar posted...
Any chance of a Lenneth upset of the Cube? Or should I just go with the flow and go for a Cube victory?


I doubt it. She's not well known outside of RPG circles, and all...
---
"Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia