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If Zubat gets in I better see it in every division paired with the one seed just so I can watch it die over and over again --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Karma Hunter posted... If Zubat gets in I better see it in every division paired with the one seed Final 8: Zubat vs. Zubat Zubat vs. Zubat Zubat vs. Zubat Zubat vs. Zubat --- ~War~ |
ExThaNemesis posted... Zero looking strong means good things for Mega Mans across the board IMO. Good thing for X, maybe. All around franchise boost probably isn't so great for Mega Man when he's going to have to run into Zero! Karma Hunter posted... kinsho3 posted...How did Big Daddy fall from getting a decent percentage on Tifa to losing to Lloyd Hardly the only thing Big Daddy had in his favor in that match. Seriously, a character who debuted in the PS3/Wii/X360 generation in the sprite round is almost unfair. ---- Anyway, still not sure how this is supposed to make Pikachu look bad. Tidus aside, the main character usually is the strongest representative of a game, and Pikachu's path was pretty much set in stone ten minutes into Otacon-Magus. Round 2, LFF favors him and he advances; Round 3, it goes against him and he gets knocked out. About the only thing that this possibly changes is that before this, Pikachu-Sora might have been debatable if Nathan upset Blue to remove the LFF, and now Sora wins that no matter what. This is all just more of Board 8 trying to pull every type of statistical voodoo they can in order to convince themselves that Crono--all of the Chrono Trigger crew, actually--hasn't weakened. I mean, yeah, Crono looked nice in round 1, but against fodder. Frog was a bit of a disappointment. Magus probably did the best of the three of them, finally winning what was thought to be a debatable match for the first time since his win over Ganondorf in his first contest and doing so convincingly. Most jokes only really start rolling once they get a bandwagon going, which is why the best joke runs came in the 4way era where it was possible for them to get out of round 1 because of weak opposition and take advantage of LFF situations to get past round 2, which is where the bandwagon seems to really start. Now, bandwagon factor is an easy way to explain Missingno's overperformance against Sephiroth, not to mention it was the Sprite Round and Missingno pretty much doesn't have any non-sprite pictures while FFVII characters' sprites are pretty ugly. Now, Missingno is another character who should theoretically suffer from lack of new games weakening him, so take into account the long layoff, and going from 51.51% on Yoshi to 50.05% on Tidus isn't really that inconceivable--nor is Banjo actually looking halfway decent when finally more or less freed of SFF for the first time ever. The only thing that "doesn't add up" is Missingno > Crono, in a night match no less where Crono should've had the advantage. Unless Crono really was that weak. (There is one little thing that counters that, though...but you're not going to like it any more than anything else I've said. The one thing that points to Crono still being strong is...41.23% on the Snakes in Rivalry Rumble, albeit with a slight pic advantage. Best performance Crono's had since his 2008 run.) --- RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed. |
Besides crobat is cool --- Dr voltchball - best in the world. |
TsunamiXXVIII posted... Now, Missingno is another character who should theoretically suffer from lack of new games weakening him what --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
TsunamiXXVIII posted... The only thing that "doesn't add up" is Missingno > Crono, in a night match no less where Crono should've had the advantage. Unless Crono really was that weak. That was a day match, not a night match. Though it was on a weekend, so there wasn't a true day vote in that match. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
Frog didn't disappoint unless you were taking that 2007 poll with pre-MvC3 Last Place Factored Viewtiful Joe seriously. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
Also,
fanbase splits aren't guaranteed success for anything. If Blue was
significantly weaker than Fox he woulda lost easily because Fox just
milked Wolf for almost everything he was worth in that match. Magus
should stand up better than Wolf (...I think), but the strength
difference between Crono and Pikachu should be much, much larger than
Fox/Blue. ...I think what I'm finally realizing is that people aren't considering Crono to be NN level anymore, or even near-elite. If you put him at high midcarder level, Pikachu to R3 becomes much less worrisome. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Is gamefaqs the one big gaming site where chrono trigger is super popular? --- Dr voltchball - best in the world. |
Karma Hunter posted... Also, fanbase splits aren't guaranteed success for anything. If Blue was significantly weaker than Fox he woulda lost easily because Fox just milked Wolf for almost everything he was worth in that match. I disagree respectfully and that's all I'll say cuz I have this big ol' grad project due in 5.5 hours. Oh what the heck let's round down to 5 hours and argue for 30 minutes. --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/gdl8lcn.jpg |
Karma Hunter posted... TsunamiXXVIII posted...Now, Missingno is another character who should theoretically suffer from lack of new games weakening him Missingno hasn't appeared in a video game since Pokemon Yellow in 1999. --- If you believe in the Lord FE7 and you accept FE7 as the Savior of video games and are 100% proud of it, put this in your sig. |
ChenKenichiFan posted... Karma Hunter posted...Also, fanbase splits aren't guaranteed success for anything. If Blue was significantly weaker than Fox he woulda lost easily because Fox just milked Wolf for almost everything he was worth in that match. You think Blue's significantly weaker than Fox? I guess that would depend on your definition of significant - I'm talking, like, Fox 55-45ing him would be a significantly weaker mark. Fox nearly won despite Wolf being there, though. Edit: wait wtf get that grad project done yo im out --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
OrangeCrush980 posted... Karma Hunter posted...TsunamiXXVIII posted...Now, Missingno is another character who should theoretically suffer from lack of new games weakening him ... what --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
I
think if we were given a random 1v1 Fox vs Blue poll three months from
now, Fox would have no trouble winning with 55%. The circumstances of
multiway polls are so much different, and I understand that analyzing
each match in a little vacuum is less fun and less logically gratifying,
but I feel it's the truth. You place Blue in between two guys from the
same series, the same game, who look the same - Blue gets supercharged.
The Nintendo fanbase - who likes ALL THREE of these guys and can support
any one of them over the others for whatever reason, are suddenly drawn
to Blue who stands out in terms of art, game series, appeal, hell he
even stands out as the underdog. This affects people on a subconscious
level. There are people, lots of people who didn't bracket vote, who voted for Blue because of that. It's all gone in a 1v1. Fox wins and wins easy. --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/NQTthNf.jpg |
OrangeCrush980 posted... Karma Hunter posted...TsunamiXXVIII posted...Now, Missingno is another character who should theoretically suffer from lack of new games weakening him Actually, MissingNo is an enemy in Knights of Pen and Paper! So, you know, he's got a massive obscure mobile/Steam game boost. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
Karma Hunter posted... Do we really need to see ExDeath lose to something stupid like Zubat Yes --- XIII_rocks, the cream of XIII fanboyism. |
ChenKenichiFan posted... I think if we were given a random 1v1 Fox vs Blue poll three months from now, Fox would have no trouble winning with 55%. The circumstances of multiway polls are so much different, and I understand that analyzing each match in a little vacuum is less fun and less logically gratifying, but I feel it's the truth. You place Blue in between two guys from the same series, the same game, who look the same - Blue gets supercharged. The Nintendo fanbase - who likes ALL THREE of these guys and can support any one of them over the others for whatever reason, are suddenly drawn to Blue who stands out in terms of art, game series, appeal, hell he even stands out as the underdog. This affects people on a subconscious level. There are people, lots of people who didn't bracket vote, who voted for Blue because of that. It's all gone in a 1v1. Fox wins and wins easy. I can see this, but it's a kind of shaky theory. For one, the winner of Cloud/Snake v Link/Mario would have an absolute field day in the finals if that translates into anything. It could be sliced and diced a lot of different ways, but it's hard for me to envision Blue that far below Fox right now but enough of that GET OUTTA HERE --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
XIII_rocks posted... Karma Hunter posted...Do we really need to see ExDeath lose to something stupid like Zubat /implying that ExDeath would lose to one of the most hated Pokémon Hardehar harr --- "Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
Out
of three FF5 entrants, two have won their R1 matches, and the other is
the protagonist's pet that shows up for like ten minutes total in the
game that's still beating another character despite having weird Amano
artwork for its pic. FF5 is rather surprisingly strong, and with stuff like the Four Job Fiesta, the revelation that it's actually one of the best games in the series is finally spreading around. I'd love to see the game proper make a contest. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
Fayt_Esteed posted... XIII_rocks posted...Karma Hunter posted...Do we really need to see ExDeath lose to something stupid like Zubat You know it would be fun. I'll confess, I'm hoping for a few joke victories if only for a couple rounds. --- The Artist Commonly Known as The Hardcore Kid |
Zubat
victories, never. I can get behind some Magikarp joke victories maybe,
since it'll probably be around the level of a solid midcard next time
around. Man, it would have probably beaten Missingno this year. Wouldn't
that have been something. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Whupassman posted... I'll confess, I'm hoping for a few joke victories if only for a couple rounds. Unfortunately, no Tales characters have won a match, so we won't be seeing any this contest. Also, the second-place match hasn't gone above 152 yet. Does anyone bother recording wire-to-wire matches for second place, or is it just for first place? --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
Fayt_Esteed posted... XIII_rocks posted...Karma Hunter posted...Do we really need to see ExDeath lose to something stupid like Zubat Yes, he would And it would be glorious --- XIII_rocks, the cream of XIII fanboyism. |
My
goodness, we can't even get a successful comeback out of these sub-100
difference vote affair matches. Kratos is just gonna let Boko stall him
all match, isn't he? --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
XIII_rocks posted... Fayt_Esteed posted...XIII_rocks posted...Karma Hunter posted...Do we really need to see ExDeath lose to something stupid like Zubat Quit trying to convince yourself. That's about the only convincing you're actually doing. --- "Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
We don't need to see that, because we don't need to see more stupid random Pokemon in this contest. --- Proud supporter of DogFAQs |
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 8/15/2013 3:57:39 PM | #224 My goodness, we can't even get a successful comeback out of these sub-100 difference vote affair matches. Kratos is just gonna let Boko stall him all match, isn't he? i know right? it's like, every time i check back: oh, Kratos still losing by about 100. i guess he'll just lose by 100 then. --- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxkdr0uNc91qlu5jao1_r1_400.gif |
if
im reading the map right then Boko is leading Kratos in Europe and is
behind in North America, so we could see Kratos take 2nd in the next few
hours as Europe goes to sleep --- "L-Block 2007 Character Battle Champion"Always remember "L-Block, shaped like a boot to kick your ass" |
im317 posted... if im reading the map right then Boko is leading Kratos in Europe and is behind in North America, so we could see Kratos take 2nd in the next few hours as Europe goes to sleep I had this theory during Guybrush/Max but it just stayed at the same level all damn day except when Guybrush got 94 votes removed for cheating --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Ultimaphazon posted... We don't need to see that, because we don't need to see more stupid random Pokemon in this contest. Time to rally for Zubat next. --- SuperNiceDog won the Guru contest super nicely! |
There's so many other Pokemon worth rallying over that f***ing piece of s*** Zubat. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
Fresh
blood would just get slaughtered. I kind of wanted to see Quote end up
in a contest. But I don't want that to happen just to see him lose to
the likes of Guybrush. --- Brawl FC - 1332 8069 6690 http://i.imgur.com/OZ9aS.png |
Karma Hunter posted... Fun with stats! This makes it seem that Crono is safe, since Crono shouldn't be weaker than Zero. Right? --- Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC |
In
all honesty, Pikachu hasnt had that bad of a performance against Lloyd.
It seems people seem intent on exaggerating his underperformance, but
nearly 70% on Lloyd in a night match isnt that far off from Zero's 74%
(and falling) on Kratos in a day match. Kratos is probably stronger than
Lloyd, but the question then becomes by how much. And Big Daddy's great performance on Tifa is still a question mark. Im going to chalk that up to pic factor and the fact that Bioshock 2 came out roughly around the same time. --- Drop it to the floor... |
tgs2 posted... Crono with Old Square boost. But then...Cecil losing...so Mass Effect must be popular...but then Mortal Kombat must be too because Garrus lost... ...that makes perfect sense since the Mortal Kombat franchise is currently more popular than it has been since the early '90s! Aha! --- Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC |
CronoFAQs at least that's what the board would like you to believe |
I still don't know why we got in Otacon as our MGS rep, either. Grey Fox would have trashed Magus on design alone. New blood I could get behind would be Grey Fox, Mog, Liara, Tali, and Growlithe or something if you must have a Pokemon for the DogFAQs factor. Returners should be Liquid Snake, (obviously), Darth Revan (46% on today's Terra at night is no joke), and Jecht (man this guy made round THREE last year how did he get cut). --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
LinkMarioSamus posted... Karma Hunter posted...Fun with stats! Crono is definitely weaker than before. The question becomes by how much. --- Drop it to the floor... |
If Kratos wins I'm going to be sad --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 |
Kratos is probably not stronger than Lloyd. he wasn't last time and he's doing pretty bad here. --- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxkdr0uNc91qlu5jao1_r1_400.gif |
LinkMarioSamus posted... This makes it seem that Crono is safe, since Crono shouldn't be weaker than Zero. Surprise twist, Missingno was actually constant for all his matches in 2010! --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
kinsho3 posted... In all honesty, Pikachu hasnt had that bad of a performance against Lloyd. It seems people seem intent on exaggerating his underperformance, but nearly 70% on Lloyd in a night match isnt that far off from Zero's 74% (and falling) on Kratos in a day match. Kratos is probably stronger than Lloyd, but the question then becomes by how much. If Kratos is stronger than Lloyd at all, it looks bad for Pika. Using Kratos = Lloyd is fair enough considering Pika had a night match, but even using that comparison right now Zero's still projected at 57.5% on Pikachu. People have been seriously arguing Pikachu > Crono in a 1v1 match in this topic. The comparison bears examination. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
If we need any new characters, we obviously need a dog with giant jugs from an obscure game. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
Lloyd's probably about equal to Kratos these days. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
was Kratos ever actually stronger than Lloyd |
Xuxon posted... Kratos is probably not stronger than Lloyd. he wasn't last time and he's doing pretty bad here. He was last time. Leon is not adjusted correctly for his match picture. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
1337gamerpr0 posted... CronoFAQs Sometimes, deceptive measures need to be taken in order to have one less bracket to worry about. --- Brawl FC - 1332 8069 6690 http://i.imgur.com/OZ9aS.png |
I
think Kratos impressed people when he held up relatively well to Midna,
but he's done nothing of note before or since. Easy losses to Diablo
and Sackboy (come on), and a loss to Diddy Kong who was being held down
by Captain Falcon. I don't see Lloyd doing any worse against Sackboy. --- http://i.imgur.com/a4GuDV3.gif |
Kratos Aurion (2005c) VS Lloyd Irving (2005c) Kratos Aurion has a strength of 20.94. Lloyd Irving has a strength of 17.17. Kratos Aurion wins with 59.00% of the vote! One upon a time, Kratos looked a lot better than Lloyd. Lloyd Irving (2010c) VS Kratos Aurion (2010c) Lloyd Irving has a strength of 20.09. Kratos Aurion has a strength of 19.00. Lloyd Irving wins with 52.71% of the vote! That time was 8 years ago. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
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