Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1111

#301 | The Owner of FF9 | Posted 8/14/2013 9:20:27 PM | message detail
Xuxon posted...
Mega Man has the worst bracket support compared to what he should have


Well, I guess that just means if he makes the finals ... I'll win this damn thing.
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#302 | ZFS | Posted 8/14/2013 9:20:29 PM | message detail
Yeah, don't think it says much about Kratos / Jill. Could go either way, really, and it wouldn't be surprising.
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#303 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/14/2013 9:21:17 PM | message detail
...also why did MM get less than 55% on Sora

Kingdom Hearts 2 was just released that year
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#304 | Qwaar | Posted 8/14/2013 9:22:02 PM | message detail
Another ill-advised late bracket change on my part.
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#305 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/14/2013 9:22:03 PM | message detail
Eh, I think Jill is just benefiting from being the most legit, most long-time (even though Haggar is an older character), and most respected character here. Red Bird is all casual and Haggar, despite doing well for himself by proving he's not terrible fodder, is simply not strong enough to keep ol' Jilly V from propelling. I doubt she's any stronger than she was last time (she's DLC-only in MvC3 and is represented by her less popular RE5 model anyway). It's just that Kratos is a lot weaker than five years ago and should get smacked around. No way in hell does Jill fail to get 50% against Travis and little anime girl #4.
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#306 | LeonhartFour (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/14/2013 9:22:14 PM | message detail
Hey guys remember when Axel slashed through Mega Man's percentage with the ASV
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#307 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/14/2013 9:22:17 PM | message detail
ZFS posted...
Yeah, don't think it says much about Kratos / Jill. Could go either way, really, and it wouldn't be surprising.


I'd personally take Jill > Kratos - I don't think that THE MAYOR OF EARTH could possibly be weaker than Recette. That just ain't clicking with me.
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#308 | LeonhartFour (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/14/2013 9:22:57 PM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
No way does Jill fail to get 50% against Travis and little anime girl #4.


Kratos didn't either, technically...!
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#309 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 8/14/2013 9:23:03 PM | message detail
the fabled KH ASV
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#310 | Xuxon | Posted 8/14/2013 9:23:57 PM | message detail
#311 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 8/14/2013 9:24:00 PM | message detail
Bird with a stall. Any chance he can keep this up?
#312 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/14/2013 9:24:18 PM | message detail
Red Bird not dead yet
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#313 | LeonhartFour (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/14/2013 9:24:24 PM | message detail
TheOneAboveAll posted...
Bird with a stall. Any chance he can keep this up?


Too early to tell. Could just be a fluke update.
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#314 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/14/2013 9:26:24 PM | message detail
Yeah, I'd take Haggar>Travis/Recette, so...
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#315 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/14/2013 9:26:26 PM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
Eh, I think Jill is just benefiting from being the most legit, most long-time (even though Haggar is an older character), and most respected character here. Red Bird is all casual and Haggar, despite doing well for himself by proving he's not terrible fodder, is simply not strong enough to keep ol' Jilly V from propelling. I doubt she's any stronger than she was last time (she's DLC-only in MvC3 and is represented by her less popular RE5 model anyway). It's just that Kratos is a lot weaker than five years ago and should get smacked around. No way in hell does Jill fail to get 50% against Travis and little anime girl #4.


Windzero beat Chris G in winners at Evo with Jill
Jill boost confirmed...!
#316 | LordoftheMorons | Posted 8/14/2013 9:26:50 PM | message detail
O ya go my MAYOR OF EARTH
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#317 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/14/2013 9:27:02 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
ChenKenichiFan posted...
No way does Jill fail to get 50% against Travis and little anime girl #4.


Kratos didn't either, technically...!


True. But that doesn't say good things about you when you take damn near the entirety of the match to do it - and at that, fail to double Recette! (granted, Recette might have some strength, but...)
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#318 | LeonhartFour (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/14/2013 9:27:29 PM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
Yeah, I'd take Haggar>Travis/Recette, so...


Before the last two matches, would you have been surprised if Red Bird turned out to be weaker than Travis/Recette?
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#319 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/14/2013 9:28:24 PM | message detail
Recette? Yeah, but I expected Recette to be bad. I think he would've been about around Travis.
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#320 | FFDragon | Posted 8/14/2013 9:28:34 PM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
I doubt she's any stronger than she was last time (she's DLC-only in MvC3 and is represented by her less popular RE5 model anyway).


Revelations was a pretty big deal. Big enough to be ported to consoles. Of the three RE games last year, the only one starring Jill was the most well received.
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#321 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 8/14/2013 9:30:30 PM | message detail | (edited)
Haggar > Recette > Travis > Red Bird
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#322 | Xuxon | Posted 8/14/2013 9:32:46 PM | message detail
From: LeonhartFour | Posted: 8/15/2013 12:27:29 AM | #318
KamikazePotato posted...
Yeah, I'd take Haggar>Travis/Recette, so...


Before the last two matches, would you have been surprised if Red Bird turned out to be weaker than Travis/Recette?

i expected bird to be weaker than Recette and my expectations for Recette were pretty low

however i wouldn't take Haggar over Travis or Recette now, that seems rather silly to me
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#323 | LeonhartFour (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/14/2013 9:32:52 PM | message detail
Trend chart:

Time | Kratos | Travis | Recette | Votes
0:05 | 44.22% | 26.53% | 29.25% | 294
1:00 | 45.40% | 23.17% | 31.43% | 5053
2:00 | 49.22% | 24.16% | 26.62% | 3456
3:00 | 51.23% | 24.81% | 23.97% | 2975
4:00 | 52.80% | 26.95% | 20.25% | 2479
5:00 | 51.40% | 24.84% | 23.76% | 2391
6:00 | 51.30% | 25.01% | 23.69% | 2347
7:00 | 48.12% | 22.82% | 29.06% | 2340
8:00 | 51.50% | 24.48% | 24.02% | 1936
9:00 | 53.20% | 25.00% | 21.80% | 1748
10:00 | 50.93% | 26.22% | 22.85% | 1659
11:00 | 54.65% | 22.74% | 22.61% | 1579
12:00 | 53.23% | 24.29% | 22.48% | 1379

Kratos struggles early as expected but does well toward the end of the match. Travis won more hours than Recettte, but she won her hours by more than he did and during the hours with the most votes, so it ended up in her favor.

X-Stats:

Kratos – 50.00%
Recette Lemongrass – 33.46%
Travis Touchdown – 32.69%

Kratos's prediction percentage was 89.79%
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#324 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/14/2013 9:34:58 PM | message detail
At any rate, since Recette held on... YAYIFICATIONS~!
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#325 | Qwaar | Posted 8/14/2013 9:35:17 PM | message detail
So I gain points with Recette only to lose them to a damn bird.
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#326 | LeonhartFour (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/14/2013 9:39:32 PM | message detail
#327 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/14/2013 9:41:11 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
KROGAN KILL SHOT HA HA


Speaking of which, I find it weird that Wrex had a higher prediction percentage than Yuna.
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#328 | DSRKVRTheDealer | Posted 8/14/2013 9:42:35 PM | message detail
Anyone given any thought to Rikku taking ? Block?
#329 | LeonhartFour (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/14/2013 9:44:42 PM | message detail
Yeah, Haggar's destroying this now. This one's done.
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#330 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/14/2013 9:47:44 PM | message detail
Oof, the one thing I wanted to change after the brackets locked down was Red Bird > Jill. This one stings.
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#331 | FFDragon | Posted 8/14/2013 9:49:00 PM | message detail
Don't worry, I'm sure the other 1.6 billion and change votes will roll in overnight.
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#332 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/14/2013 9:50:26 PM | message detail
FFDragon posted...
Don't worry, I'm sure the other 1.6 billion and change votes will roll in overnight.


Draven vs Snake vs Red Bird hype1
#333 | pjbasis | Posted 8/14/2013 9:52:00 PM | message detail
Nah Mario would beat Red Bird if the whole world voted too
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#334 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/14/2013 9:53:21 PM | message detail
FFDragon posted...
ChenKenichiFan posted...
I doubt she's any stronger than she was last time (she's DLC-only in MvC3 and is represented by her less popular RE5 model anyway).


Revelations was a pretty big deal. Big enough to be ported to consoles. Of the three RE games last year, the only one starring Jill was the most well received.


Wow, how pathetic of me. I completely forgot about Revelations. You're right - it may not have been the best selling games, but it was ported a lot, it was one of the most high-profile games early in the 3DS's life, and it thrust Jill back into the spotlight. It was the first RE in which she was the lead or co-lead since 2002. In light of all that, she definitely could be stronger than last time.

Yeah, Kratos is gonna get zombified.
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#335 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/14/2013 9:55:24 PM | message detail
FFDragon posted...
Don't worry, I'm sure the other 1.6 billion and change votes will roll in overnight.


I haven't been paying attention the last couple of days, did someone actual argue for Bird here?
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#336 | FFDragon | Posted 8/14/2013 9:58:19 PM | message detail
Not in any serious manner, no. Not for first at least. A bunch of people took him for second but mostly on the grounds that Haggar would suck.

And yeah yo without Revelations she would be riding a wave of nostalgia and MVC3 DLC. But the Revelations HD port just hit consoles three months ago and it kept the 3DS library afloat pretty much on its own for a while there. And it was a well received game all around, so Jill has definitely had some recent relevancy.
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#337 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/14/2013 10:12:57 PM | message detail
Not nearly as interesting as the last match. Next.
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#338 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/14/2013 10:14:59 PM | message detail
I told you this was gonna happen yo and FFD why didn't you activate your Jill believe
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#339 | FFDragon | Posted 8/14/2013 10:17:00 PM | message detail
I was afraid.

Afraid I was the only sane man left in a world gone mad.

Mad with birds.
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#340 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 8/14/2013 10:17:07 PM | message detail
Time to look ahead to Boko and Kratos A

Damn ambiguous chocobos
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#341 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/14/2013 10:18:21 PM | message detail
If people believe in a Tales of boost like they've been giving me guff for they should have Kratos A. in an easy second

there's no tales of boost
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#342 | FFDragon | Posted 8/14/2013 10:19:49 PM | message detail
I'd say I never get tired of watching Tales of (and now Xeno) characters flop around like dying fish, but at this point I wish they'd just stop making the brackets.
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#343 | Xuxon | Posted 8/14/2013 10:21:53 PM | message detail
even with a bit of a Tales boost i don't expect Kratos to beat Boko
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#344 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/14/2013 10:22:36 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
If people believe in a Tales of boost like they've been giving me guff for they should have Kratos A. in an easy second

there's no tales of boost


so what percentage does he need to get on Zero for you to buy it
#345 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/14/2013 10:29:16 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
If people believe in a Tales of boost like they've been giving me guff for they should have Kratos A. in an easy second

there's no tales of boost


so what percentage does he need to get on Zero for you to buy it


I have no faith in Zero in multiways but he's got about as sick of an unfair picture advantage as when he put a scare into Crono

I'll split the difference and say 37%. Kratos Aurion is our most powerful Tales of entrant historically and should benefit the most from any supposed boost. But honestly, Kratos Aurion put up 43% on Diablo back at his peak, he should really break all expectations if he's surpassed that level now with a Tales of boost.
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#346 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/14/2013 10:30:36 PM | message detail | (edited)
FFDragon posted...
I'd say I never get tired of watching Tales of (and now Xeno) characters flop around like dying fish, but at this point I wish they'd just stop making the brackets.


I like the Tales series, as well as Xenoblade (even if I don't have it yet), but I have to agree - seeing them get blown away is just disheartening. Gods, Shulk was the only Xeno character who even looked half-decent.
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#347 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/14/2013 10:34:45 PM | message detail | (edited)
Jill is just berserking now, good lord. 65% update.

Edit: The match with Kratos is gonna be at night too? Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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#348 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/14/2013 10:42:08 PM | message detail
should've had Sharla and Fiora instead of Reyn and Dunban
get some extra votes with that TJF....!
#349 | creativename | Posted 8/14/2013 10:42:59 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
If people believe in a Tales of boost like they've been giving me guff for they should have Kratos A. in an easy second

there's no tales of boost

I disagree, I don't think it's a huge boost but im pretty sure there is one.

Jade Curtiss certainly boosted a lot. Yes her competition was weak, but the old Jade would have done far worse.

And if freakin' Jade can boost, why not the others?
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#350 | creativename | Posted 8/14/2013 10:45:58 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Jill is just berserking now, good lord. 65% update.

Edit: The match with Kratos is gonna be at night too? Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Yeah I think Kratos is f***ed.

Would be surprised if he can beat probably the strongest Jill we've likely seen.

(Now watch her lose by 23 votes)
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