Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1110

#201 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/14/2013 9:46:59 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
ExThaNemesis posted...
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LMFAO this division is awesome. Recette's obviously being rallied hard, but she also has to be benefitting from the match pic. She looks hilariously adorable next to those two.

Also, I'm surprised people are worrying about Mega Man based on the Karp match. If anything, MM looked like a champ there.


How do you figure he looked like a champ there?


If Magikarp's contest debut strength was anything like Missingno's (certainly a possibility pre-match), Mega Man slapping him down like that was nothing short of spectacular. Remember that Sephiroth couldn't even score 53% on the glitch.


There is no way Karp is near peak strength Missingno, especially because he had so much rally momentum by the time he faced Sephiroth.

I'll have to wait for Mega Man Rd. 2 before saying anything one way or the other but I think that's a dangerous assumption to make and one that's being fueled by a desire to see MM get past Charizard in spite of Zero more than anything.
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#202 | The Owner of FF9 | Posted 8/14/2013 9:48:59 AM | message detail | (edited)
Ok, but is he strong enough to LFF-proof him when he goes up against Zard and Zero?

edit: in response to code and KH
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#203 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/14/2013 9:47:37 AM | message detail
I'm not buying Magikarp being legit stronger against MM than Puff was on MMX.

Why not? Jigglypuff may have Smash, but Magikarp is a more popular Pokemon.
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#204 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/14/2013 9:48:35 AM | message detail
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It's a 243 character bracket. The only guys who have actually looked good against tough competition are some old Square folk (and there again, just 3/4 FFVI guys). There's not that much tough competition to go around. If we criticize Pokemon's competition, we've gotta do the same thing to nearly everyone else.


Not everyone. Mass Effect has had to go up against Sub-Zero, Epona, Cecil, and Pit, and with the possible exceptions of Epona in that group have looked very, very good - win or lose.

That being said, your statement even on its own isn't a counter to the main point - Pokemon has only looked good because it's been in matches tailor-made for it to shine doesn't mean that others haven't as well. I'll freely admit that Metal Gear Solid has been put into matches tailor-made for it to shine as well.

Big Boss/Peacock/Captain Viridian gave BB two of the biggest blowouts of the contest in one amazing match. Ditto Solid Snake and his weaklings. Ocelot got to humiliate Auron with an Auron/Roxas split.

It doesn't prove anything yet.
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#205 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/14/2013 9:49:27 AM | message detail
ExThaNemesis posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
ExThaNemesis posted...
TheCodeisBosco posted...
LMFAO this division is awesome. Recette's obviously being rallied hard, but she also has to be benefitting from the match pic. She looks hilariously adorable next to those two.

Also, I'm surprised people are worrying about Mega Man based on the Karp match. If anything, MM looked like a champ there.


How do you figure he looked like a champ there?


If Magikarp's contest debut strength was anything like Missingno's (certainly a possibility pre-match), Mega Man slapping him down like that was nothing short of spectacular. Remember that Sephiroth couldn't even score 53% on the glitch.


There is no way Karp is near peak strength Missingno, especially because he had so much rally momentum by the time he faced Sephiroth.

I'll have to wait for Mega Man Rd. 2 before saying anything one way or the other but I think that's a dangerous assumption to make and one that's being fueled by a desire to see MM get past Charizard in spite of Zero more than anything.


I have, uh, Charizard winning that match.

You can also take it as R1 Missingno. He beat Crono! Mega Man wouldn't do *that* to Crono.
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#206 | Denzokuken | Posted 8/14/2013 9:49:36 AM | message detail
Charizard is so screwed.
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#207 | --Smurf-- | Posted 8/14/2013 9:49:39 AM | message detail
eh a lot of Europe is red for Recette, that seems...unexpected.
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#208 | The_Djoker | Posted 8/14/2013 9:51:10 AM | message detail
Kratos had a crap sequel this year and has been turd for a while. I love Gow but the franchsie has become stale. Kratos will never reach his 2010 peak.
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#209 | LordoftheMorons | Posted 8/14/2013 9:51:31 AM | message detail
This has to be more stuffing, right
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#210 | Kibago | Posted 8/14/2013 9:52:34 AM | message detail
huh, Kratos jump. he's looking better.
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#211 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/14/2013 9:53:47 AM | message detail
If Kratos keeps this up (he is) Charizard's going to be projected over Zelda soon, if not by much. Time to argue for a Travis Touchdown drop~
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#212 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/14/2013 9:55:29 AM | message detail
Travis is obviously getting SFF'd by Recette.

And liking it.
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#213 | ZinsanityCraze | Posted 8/14/2013 9:56:02 AM | message detail
TheCodeisBosco posted...
LMFAO this division is awesome. Recette's obviously being rallied hard, but she also has to be benefitting from the match pic. She looks hilariously adorable next to those two.

Also, I'm surprised people are worrying about Mega Man based on the Karp match. If anything, MM looked like a champ there.


MM looked like a champ? I think he looked pretty mediocre, of course Magikarp is basically an unknown so i don't want to infer too much from it.

If you believe that people aren't getting tired of all these inane jokes, then i really take my hat off to you.
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#214 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/14/2013 9:56:51 AM | message detail
Now that Naughty Dog has kinda usurped Sony Santa Monica's status as Sony's A1 development team (Uncharted and The Last of Us definitely meant more to this generation than God of War), I have to question just how much attention Kratos's series will receive in the future. If Sony moves on to new IPs - something they are much more prone to do than Nintendo - Kratos will turn into garbage real fast.
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#215 | SuorGenoveffa | Posted 8/14/2013 9:57:33 AM | message detail
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I'm not buying Magikarp being legit stronger against MM than Puff was on MMX.

Why not? Jigglypuff may have Smash, but Magikarp is a more popular Pokemon.


Is it really?

It's a more popular joke for sure.

IDK everything about MMX/Jigglypuff is just so weird.

And the same applies to last match.

Welp.
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#216 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/14/2013 9:58:16 AM | message detail
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Using Charizard/Kratos and Zelda/Travis Touchdown, at this moment Zelda gets 56.6% on Charizard.


Looks like my Zelda upset pick might pan out after all!
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#217 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/14/2013 9:58:52 AM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Using Charizard/Kratos and Zelda/Travis Touchdown, at this moment Zelda gets 56.6% on Charizard.


Looks like my Zelda upset pick might pan out after all!


You're falling behind! That projection is going away in a hurry until we find new estimates to use <_<
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#218 | Greyfeld | Posted 8/14/2013 9:59:36 AM | message detail
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I'm not buying Magikarp being legit stronger against MM than Puff was on MMX.

Why not? Jigglypuff may have Smash, but Magikarp is a more popular Pokemon.


I would say he's more recognizable, not necessarily more popular.
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#219 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/14/2013 10:00:32 AM | message detail
So hey, Travis decides to act like a Generic McDude even though he sure as heck should not be one!

I got nothing.
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#220 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 8/14/2013 10:00:37 AM | message detail
Im not sure what they'll do with the GoW series. His story is clearly over, and GoW:A was only "just ok/decent", the worst of the series so far. I think the whole franchise needs a change. Let it rest for a couple years, then come back with a new mythology, new weapons(The AOE ranged Blades of Chaos has controlled the combat flow and enemy design for SIX games now, its time for something new), new gods to brutally maim in QTEs, etc. Perhaps Norse Mythology or Egyptian God of War. Something.

And I don't think Kratos will be there either.
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#221 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/14/2013 10:01:01 AM | message detail
Uhhh, Kratos for turd of the round?
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#222 | --Smurf-- | Posted 8/14/2013 10:01:06 AM | message detail
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Now that Naughty Dog has kinda usurped Sony Santa Monica's status as Sony's A1 development team (Uncharted and The Last of Us definitely meant more to this generation than God of War), I have to question just how much attention Kratos's series will receive in the future. If Sony moves on to new IPs - something they are much more prone to do than Nintendo - Kratos will turn into garbage real fast.


It's hard to know what to make of this kind of "recent trend" sort of point when everyone else argues the site isn't very influenced by whats happening right now in the industry. Dante hasn't been destroyed by having a bad game, MM hasn't had a game in a long time and is certainly in a low priority seat for Capcom and Crono has had one game ever. I mean if the GoW fans really like their game and it isn't a passing fad like mainstream western games sometimes are (GTA, Halo etc) then he should hold his strength. But that'll be down to the nature of his fans rather than his profile dropping.
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#223 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/14/2013 10:01:31 AM | message detail
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If we criticize Pokemon's competition, we've gotta do the same thing to nearly everyone else.


And you all have!
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#224 | --Smurf-- | Posted 8/14/2013 10:02:23 AM | message detail
So Travis still hasn't made a cut towards a position he was undisputed to win.
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#225 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/14/2013 10:02:38 AM | message detail
Fayt_Esteed posted...
Uhhh, Kratos for turd of the round?


This still isn't comparable to what Missingno did. I'd also put Vincent's underperformance as worse than this, relative to his historical strength.
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#226 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/14/2013 10:03:10 AM | message detail
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You're falling behind! That projection is going away in a hurry until we find new estimates to use <_<


C'mon Skyward Sword boost I believe in you

also KH you've gotta change your sig it's hard to tell who's talking when you and yo are talking to each other
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#227 | xp1337 | Posted 8/14/2013 10:03:23 AM | message detail
Groose should get an honorable mention.
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#228 | Articuno2001 | Posted 8/14/2013 10:03:25 AM | message detail
Looks like Kratos finally started to wake up.
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#229 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/14/2013 10:03:36 AM | message detail
then again Kratos still can't break 60% on a girl whose last name is Lemongrass
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#230 | SnowZangoose | Posted 8/14/2013 10:04:05 AM | message detail
LinkMarioSamus posted...
So hey, Travis decides to act like a Generic McDude even though he sure as heck should not be one!


this post is so bad even you should feel ashamed of it
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#231 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/14/2013 10:04:07 AM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
You're falling behind! That projection is going away in a hurry until we find new estimates to use <_<


C'mon Skyward Sword boost I believe in you

also KH you've gotta change your sig it's hard to tell who's talking when you and yo are talking to each other


Success <_<
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#232 | --Smurf-- | Posted 8/14/2013 10:06:11 AM | message detail
With him rising he's going to wind up on around what was expected against Travis. Why is this a bad performance when Recette was a complete unknown?
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#233 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/14/2013 10:06:21 AM | message detail
I've always thought Kratos was a bit of a fraud, but this is still pretty bad.

Granted, I expected Recette to be near worthless, so that's part of it. Kratos is doubling Travis now, so he's looking a little better on that front.
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#234 | TheCodeisBosco | Posted 8/14/2013 10:06:30 AM | message detail
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Uhhh, Kratos for turd of the round?


Eh, I don't know. I'd give that to Booker, Teemo or Zack.
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#235 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/14/2013 10:07:14 AM | message detail
Turd of the Round is Draven.

Naturally worth 30% on Jak
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#236 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/14/2013 10:07:14 AM | message detail
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With him rising he's going to wind up on around what was expected against Travis. Why is this a bad performance when Recette was a complete unknown?


what

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a

recette

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#237 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/14/2013 10:07:33 AM | message detail
Xenoblade characters are the real turds of the round.
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#238 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/14/2013 10:08:00 AM | message detail
MegatokyoEd posted...
Xenoblade characters are the real turds of the round.


Except for Shulk anyway. He did okay.
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#239 | The Mana Sword | Posted 8/14/2013 10:08:18 AM | message detail
Everyone in this entire contest has been disappointing. All 243 of them. Even those who haven't had a match yet. No one is safe.
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#240 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/14/2013 10:09:33 AM | message detail | (edited)
Karma Hunter posted...
Fayt_Esteed posted...
Uhhh, Kratos for turd of the round?


This still isn't comparable to what Missingno did. I'd also put Vincent's underperformance as worse than this, relative to his historical strength.


Oh, right. But still, this performance on RECETTE, of all people, is just disheartening...
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#241 | TheCodeisBosco | Posted 8/14/2013 10:08:58 AM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
Groose should get an honorable mention.


Ooh, good call. Poor guy.
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#242 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/14/2013 10:09:07 AM | message detail
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Everyone in this entire contest has been disappointing. All 243 of them. Even those who haven't had a match yet. No one is safe.


Everyone but Snake
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#243 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/14/2013 10:09:18 AM | message detail
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Everyone in this entire contest has been disappointing. All 243 of them. Even those who haven't had a match yet. No one is safe.


Liquid Snake gets the last laugh after all~
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#244 | The Mana Sword | Posted 8/14/2013 10:09:25 AM | message detail
No Snake sucks too.
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#245 | LOLContests | Posted 8/14/2013 10:09:33 AM | message detail
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Turd of the Round is Draven.

Naturally worth 30% on Jak


Draven might be the first entrant to simultaneously be both the Star *and* Turd of the Round.
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#246 | Regaro_Ukiera | Posted 8/14/2013 10:09:57 AM | message detail
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then again Kratos still can't break 60% on a girl whose last name is Lemongrass


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#247 | voltch | Posted 8/14/2013 10:11:17 AM | message detail
lol Suda51
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#248 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/14/2013 10:11:40 AM | message detail
Liquid Snake would be breaking 90% on these losers
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#249 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/14/2013 10:12:18 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Fayt_Esteed posted...
Uhhh, Kratos for turd of the round?


This still isn't comparable to what Missingno did. I'd also put Vincent's underperformance as worse than this, relative to his historical strength.


Missingno only underperformed our Oracle expectations (which is the best way to judge these things, I think) by 4.5%. It's pretty bad, but not as horrid as some people think. Link underperformed by an enormous 12%, but that was the first match and set the tone for us to temper our subsequent predictions. Other bigger bombs include Barret and Ryu (8% each). I'm not sure what Krato's Oracle average is, but I saw quite a few predictions in the 60s. He can easily underform by a full 10%, which would make him the second "ugliest" winner behind Link.
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#250 | TheCodeisBosco | Posted 8/14/2013 10:12:48 AM | message detail
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lol Suda51


The Professor from Contact would be doubling Kratos here*.

*In a perfect world
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