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I was referring more to Missingno. He only fell 3% from the 6 minutes mark. Epona fell 6%. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
I wasn't serious! Well, about actually trying to somehow nominate a... non-tangible glitch, I guess? --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX |
creativename posted... KamikazePotato posted...I'd call the Missingno glitch in RBY more impactful on my playing experience than getting Epona was. If Missingno's a joke, so's Epona! Epona even had jokier trends! everyone up against FF7 has joke trends confirmed |
creativename posted... Stuffing does not actually increase site traffic. Correct, stuffing does not increase site traffic. However, rallying does increase site traffic. 1337gamerpr0 posted... more importantly, if LoL people show up for Draven's matches and disappear immediately afterwards, "increased traffic" becomes worthless In the early rounds, the Draven rally will be mostly limited to the LoL fanbase. But if he somehow gets past MMX/Ryu, I think Draven will start to catch a bandwagon. And if he gets past Link, I think the general internet population will start to get rallied like L-Block did in 2007. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
My two cents on Missingno vs Epona as far as being jokes... ...one of them is literally a glitch. |
-LusterSoldier- posted... creativename posted...Stuffing does not actually increase site traffic. a bandwagon of LoL fans it won't be like L-Block, mainly because anybody that hasn't played LoL won't care |
-LusterSoldier- posted... 1337gamerpr0 posted...more importantly, if LoL people show up for Draven's matches and disappear immediately afterwards, "increased traffic" becomes worthless That sounds unlikely to me. L-Block is, if nothing else, very recognizable. It's hard for me to see people coming in and voting for Draven like that. Only people who are already LoL fans. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX |
1337gamerpr0 posted... creativename posted...KamikazePotato posted...I'd call the Missingno glitch in RBY more impactful on my playing experience than getting Epona was. If Missingno's a joke, so's Epona! Epona even had jokier trends! At this point, a lot of it is honestly the same principle. I'm pretty sure most of the FF7 early surge antivoters are, in fact, aware that FF7 does not always win. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
creativename posted... KamikazePotato posted...The second Missingno hit an actual good character, I dropped him like a sack of potatoes. Yeah, I noticed that too. Seriously, Tidus gets your vote away from Missingno? I think the only time that Missingno was my favorite character in a match was against Sephiroth, but I voted for him in his most recent match anyway because Banjo wasn't getting out of third and Tidus was about to take the lead! Of course, I should probably get out of this topic quickly. It's like 1:30 here and I say stupid things when I'm tired. --- RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed. |
1337gamerpr0 posted... KanzarisKelshen posted...Also, for the record: Now that Magikarp is getting bodied as it should've, I'm much more happy with it. I wouldn't mind seeing it return and maybe wow us by defeating somebody...just not a gaming icon. We shouldn't expect him to do that, nor want him to do that just for the sake of surprising results. You do realize you are comparing a joke character with an attempt to challenge old school gaming icons with a character representing the new school of gaming, right? I've insisted on this again and again. It's not about shocking results for the sake of being shocking, at least for me. It's about seeing what gaming's latest generation can do against legends from past gens when you remove GameFAQS' biases. creativename posted... KanzarisKelshen posted...Melodrama? Please, creativename. I'm not fabricating anything here. Why would I fake getting worked up over something like this? That'd be beyond sad. If I posted about this it's because I felt legitimately disgruntled, not because of wanting to stir other people up or something. Man I really don't remember it working that way. Having Epona around was nice but I honestly preferred the Bunny Hood because it was less micromanagent heavy so I could focus on planning my paths in advance instead of tapping A in a rhythm to keep covering distance as fast as I possibly could. Being able to jump fences did come in handy though. |
What did I tell you Pokemon people are freaks! Mudkips and Magikarps, man. --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
KamikazePotato posted... I was referring more to Missingno. He only fell 3% from the 6 minutes mark. Epona fell 6%. Oh OK. Still, anyone who played OoT and didn't like Epona has no soul and is an animal hater. Michael Vick would anti-vote against Epona. Do you want to be associated with Michael Vick??! -LusterSoldier- posted... And if he gets past Link, I think the general internet population will start to get rallied like L-Block did in 2007. People got behind the Tetris piece because it was a universal symbol of gaming. The internet has no clue whatsoever what the hell a Draven is. There is literally zero chance of the internet bandwagoning Draven like it did the Block. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Bunny Hood didn't increase movement speed in OoT though! --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX |
xp1337 posted... -LusterSoldier- posted...1337gamerpr0 posted...more importantly, if LoL people show up for Draven's matches and disappear immediately afterwards, "increased traffic" becomes worthless If Draven gets past Link, the final match is breaking 300000 votes. No, I didn't typo that. At that point, it will be big enough that you're going to see a repeat of what happened in the GameSpot contest semis and final with Gordon Freeman, because it'd be an excellent PR move for Riot to generate even more attachment to the LoL brand from its fans and they've done this before. The tricky thing is, of course, getting there. But that's half the fun, right? |
xp1337 posted... Bunny Hood didn't increase movement speed in OoT though! Well yeah, I meant comparing the speed boosters of OoT and MM. MM's just felt way more elegant because all I had to do was at most open a menu, assign the hood, and then exit and press a button as opposed to tapping repeatedly to make it from Gerudo Valley to the Lost Woods in a reasonable timeframe. |
everyone. start. rallying. for. Mega. Man. X. |
Bunny
Hood doesn't even compare to Epona. I said before her match that
getting Epona was one of the top moments in OoT, and people wouldn't
forget that. creative is definitely right. --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
KanzarisKelshen posted... xp1337 posted...-LusterSoldier- posted...1337gamerpr0 posted...more importantly, if LoL people show up for Draven's matches and disappear immediately afterwards, "increased traffic" becomes worthless That doesn't contradict what I'm saying! Luster seems to be talking about all parts of the internet coming in and bandwagoning Draven like we had with L-Block. I'm saying only LoL fans would. Raw votals mean nothing here. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX |
You
do realize you are comparing a joke character with an attempt to
challenge old school gaming icons with a character representing the new
school of gaming, right? I've insisted on this again and again. It's not
about shocking results for the sake of being shocking, at least for me.
It's about seeing what gaming's latest generation can do against
legends from past gens when you remove GameFAQS' biases. Target thousands of League of Legends fans to come vote here and a League of Legends character will do well. Shocker. Also implying Draven is not a joke character. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
I
think Draven can stuff his way into round 3 given the split between MMX
and Ryu will be fairly even but against Link the third wheel will be
weak enough that Link should be able crush him even with the rampant
stuffing --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Yeah,
I don't think the site will jump on the Draven bandwagon. If he pulls
it off, it will be outside forces through and through. Won't be like
L-Block who at least had a large part of the site on its side. And Epona is no joke. The Zelda fanbase cares about the horse, or they wouldn't have made such a fuss upon the reveal of horseback combat for TP. Also a lot of the complaints about TP had to do with Epona, like Midna's warping making Epona pretty much useless and the item to call her at will being given to you so late in the game. People wanted to have fun with Epona in TP. And why is that? Fond memories of her in OoT and MM. They cared. --- Hey, its that SuperNiceDog! Congrats to the Guru 2011 winner |
KanzarisKelshen posted... If Draven gets past Link, the final match is breaking 300000 votes. ...the delusion is strong with this one. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Yeah well voting for Epona makes you PETA, and I'd rather be Michael Vick than PETA Let's go Ike, you've killed plenty of laguz before, a horse should be a cinch --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
In Kanz's defense, Mega Man >> Mega Man X. --- T H E S T A B L E - bring on Epona! http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg |
KamikazePotato posted... Yeah well voting for Epona makes you PETA, and I'd rather be Michael Vick than PETA pfft, FE9 is a paladin/flierfest, Ike is in someone's saddle 80% of the time |
ike to get bucked --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
BK_Sheikah00 posted... Yeah, I don't think the site will jump on the Draven bandwagon. If he pulls it off, it will be outside forces through and through. Won't be like L-Block who at least had a large part of the site on its side. Eh, they like the mechanic, the feel... the horse? The horse is a default vote, outside of the real wacky fans. Which is not insignificant on ZeldaFAQs, but not enough to take her out of low midcard. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
1337gamerpr0 posted... everyone. You're welcome to do that, actually. It'll make things more fun! If what me and other Draven supporters are trying to pull off comes to pass, I would expect nothing less from X's supporters (and Ryu's I suppose but X looks like the man to beat). I mean, hell, you're dealing with a fanbase split already from having another big capcom guy in the poll. Scrounging up more votes to offset that just seems logical to me. xp1337 posted... KanzarisKelshen posted... Sure, I don't dispute that. Here's a counterpoint though: Why isn't a chunk of those users going to stay, if only to see what the heck all the hubbub was about? Human beings are curious. If the rally goes off properly (so we see another 40k vote match, maybe even a 50k one if things go stupendously well and the MMX fans do a great job getting people to join in too) and even 10% of the rallied voters decide to stick around to check other matches out, that'll be two thousand extra voters, a much welcome addition to these tiny votals and the site traffic. Isn't that enough to make this worth a shot? |
To
be fair I'd call anyone who still thinks that Draven result was a
result of anything but stuffing delusional but yeah. It doesn't matter
cause the stuffer(s) backing him is smart enough that Bacon can't catch
him. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
ok the weird part how do we convince people on SRK to vote for Mega Man X and not Ryu |
Like
I loved riding around on Boko/thought it was kinda neat when I got Boko
in FFT, but enough to start voting for the thing for any other reason
other than "it's a chocobo, who cares about these other guys", no thanks DogFAQs >>> HorseFAQs any day - Amaterasu is baller, Epona no chance --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
HaRRicH posted... In Kanz's defense, Mega Man >> Mega Man X. MMX = better character (since he, like, has character to speak of unless I missed some MM games with big plots), but MM = better design and accompanying elements IMO. Dat MM music so good, no MMX tunes can match up to it. AxemRedRanger posted... You do realize you are comparing a joke character with an attempt to challenge old school gaming icons with a character representing the new school of gaming, right? I've insisted on this again and again. It's not about shocking results for the sake of being shocking, at least for me. It's about seeing what gaming's latest generation can do against legends from past gens when you remove GameFAQS' biases. It is a shocker. Rallies tend not to help swing matches except if they're really close because votes split and dilute. If LoL fans can stick to their guns in a noticeable proportion and push their boys forward, that makes them an entirely different beast from everybody else. That's worth looking at. |
You guys are better off finding rallies for Ryu. Unless you know of some super Megaman site. Ryu should murk MMX in EU anyway. --- http://i.imgur.com/32RNLnc.gif |
Not
understanding the hesitance on the idea of people liking Epona. There
are plenty of reasons why people would, enough to beat the lesser
characters in the bracket. Like, Epona probably beats Wrex no problem. --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
Oh, hey, as a little note to last match, if anyone was wondering - Cecil finished at over 54% on Pit in a day match. ...that guy is possibly the most unlucky character in the history of our contests. I'm never taking him to win anything <_< --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
KanzarisKelshen posted... Sure, I don't dispute that. Here's a counterpoint though: Why isn't a chunk of those users going to stay, if only to see what the heck all the hubbub was about? Human beings are curious. If the rally goes off properly (so we see another 40k vote match, maybe even a 50k one if things go stupendously well and the MMX fans do a great job getting people to join in too) and even 10% of the rallied voters decide to stick around to check other matches out, that'll be two thousand extra voters, a much welcome addition to these tiny votals and the site traffic. Isn't that enough to make this worth a shot? Luster would probably have a better idea of this, but is there anything to suggest L-Block had significant voter retention that held throughout the contest, or to a bigger extreme, into 2008? Personally I'm doubting it, but admittedly I don't feel like shifting through the votals over multiple contests to figure it out. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX |
ZFS posted... Not understanding the hesitance on the idea of people liking Epona. There are plenty of reasons why people would, enough to beat the lesser characters in the bracket. Like, Epona probably beats Wrex no problem. She could barely 60/40 Mordin. You guys are going to see how bad that is next round. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Karma Hunter posted... Oh, hey, as a little note to last match, if anyone was wondering - Cecil finished at over 54% on Pit in a day match. *Cecil somehow draws Chester in CBX* |
Lopen posted... To be fair I'd call anyone who still thinks that Draven result was a result of anything but stuffing delusional but yeah. It doesn't matter cause the stuffer(s) backing him is smart enough that Bacon can't catch him. I honestly like this idea that Draven has a super pocket stuffer who can perform one of the biggest swings seen in any contest (Up there with Sora swinging 15k against Alucard and bigger than what Sonic did to Crono) and not get caught because it means my job is way easier. Pity it's probably not true and I'm gonna need to catch lightning in a bottle if he's gonna have a chance at advancing to Round 3! |
I'm
interested to see how that match unfolds. I think that Epona is
probably going to be a character that folds at the first sign of other
Nintendo characters, kinda like Ness. Whether or not that's enough for
Ike to overtake GlaDOS (doubt it) is another thing entirely. And if
Epona doesn't fold, then her chances of outright winning are very slim,
because Ike isn't going to fold either and GlaDOS will coast the LFF
train to victory. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
I
thought earlier that Mega Man might drop under 50% with his turrible
Euro vote, but the way he's crushing this right now makes that pretty
unlikely. He'll continue to crush for a little while longer too. Karma Hunter posted... Like I loved riding around on Boko/thought it was kinda neat when I got Boko in FFT, but enough to start voting for the thing for any other reason other than "it's a chocobo, who cares about these other guys", no thanks I bet you're one of those Europeans who eat horse meat. Just as bad as the Chinese who eat dog meat. Yuck. Epona with custom blinged out horseshoes is the preferred ride for balla's everywhere. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Karma Hunter posted... She could barely 60/40 Mordin. You guys are going to see how bad that is next round. I've been thinking the same with your side! --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
xp1337 posted... KanzarisKelshen posted...Sure, I don't dispute that. Here's a counterpoint though: Why isn't a chunk of those users going to stay, if only to see what the heck all the hubbub was about? Human beings are curious. If the rally goes off properly (so we see another 40k vote match, maybe even a 50k one if things go stupendously well and the MMX fans do a great job getting people to join in too) and even 10% of the rallied voters decide to stick around to check other matches out, that'll be two thousand extra voters, a much welcome addition to these tiny votals and the site traffic. Isn't that enough to make this worth a shot? I'd be interested in this too. Makes me curious if 2k2 can be replicated if the contests become a big enough deal (in the sense of ballooning votals and site population). |
KamikazePotato posted... I'm interested to see how that match unfolds. I think that Epona is probably going to be a character that folds at the first sign of other Nintendo characters, kinda like Ness. Whether or not that's enough for Ike to overtake GlaDOS (doubt it) is another thing entirely. And if Epona doesn't fold, then her chances of outright winning are very slim, because Ike isn't going to fold either and GlaDOS will coast the LFF train to victory. Now picture Epona SFFing Ike. I can see it happening and it's terrifying (and sad. Poor Ike). |
Karma Hunter posted... BK_Sheikah00 posted...Yeah, I don't think the site will jump on the Draven bandwagon. If he pulls it off, it will be outside forces through and through. Won't be like L-Block who at least had a large part of the site on its side. Being a low midcard is fine. For all we know, Mordin and Niko are just crap. The problem is if people think she is only a joke character. She is not. Her strength (even if small) is legit, as in it's not coming mostly from joke votes. --- Hey, its that SuperNiceDog! Congrats to the Guru 2011 winner |
ZFS posted... Karma Hunter posted...She could barely 60/40 Mordin. You guys are going to see how bad that is next round. 56.5% on Pit and 60% on Mordin aren't even in the same ballpark. Like, I've been pretty tactful about it, but... Mordin is really bad for a Mass Effect character. You're gonna see how bad. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
BK_Sheikah00 posted... Karma Hunter posted...BK_Sheikah00 posted...Yeah, I don't think the site will jump on the Draven bandwagon. If he pulls it off, it will be outside forces through and through. Won't be like L-Block who at least had a large part of the site on its side. That means she has the Kefkaest power hour since 2005 Kefka though. She dropped like a rock from the end of the first hour onwards. |
I
think indirectly Epona is probably pretty decent, but I absolutely do
not trust her against other Nintendo characters whatsoever. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
KanzarisKelshen posted... BK_Sheikah00 posted...Karma Hunter posted...BK_Sheikah00 posted...Yeah, I don't think the site will jump on the Draven bandwagon. If he pulls it off, it will be outside forces through and through. Won't be like L-Block who at least had a large part of the site on its side. 2005 Kefka's PH was probably just cheating though. Epona's initial surge was definitely just joke trends. Her not tanking afterward is more indicative of her real strength. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Wrex
probably is more popular, but it won't be by very much, in all
likelihood. The idea that Mordin is the equivalent of Otacon never made
any real sense, considering how much more likable, loved, and
interesting Mordin is versus Otacon (I don't like Mordin either), and he
dwarfs Wrex in focus and screen time, while being in the most popular
game in the series versus the least popular and least liked. Wrex is,
again, probably more popular, but not anything like you've been
suggesting. --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
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