Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1109

#301 | Sorozone | Posted 8/13/2013 9:40:21 PM | message detail
The biggest joke of them all is Kanz.
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#302 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/13/2013 9:42:06 PM | message detail
Sorozone posted...
The biggest joke of them all is Kanz.


That implies you guys are laughing. Somehow, I don't think that's true!
#303 | Lopen | Posted 8/13/2013 9:42:44 PM | message detail
What Kanz is saying about MissingNo is about as legitimate as people saying they're voting for L-Block out of some profound respect for the same Tetris that gets like 15% in the x-stats

People only vote for MissingNo cause they really $'M4¶¶ż=ɏǽʕ

Has nothing to do with "fond memories"
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#304 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 8/13/2013 9:43:05 PM | message detail
Whoa.

People seriously think that being able to stomp Magikarp means Mega Man's a threat to pull some huge upset later on?

I mean, I'd love this upset more than anyone--I decided to try out the "best (according to popular opinion)" game in the series and it totally sucked--but seriously. It's Magikarp. That 27-seed poll doesn't mean anything. Mega had a better chance of losing in Round 2 than in round 1, and I don't think anyone's taking him to lose in Round 2 unless they're deluded enough to believe Red Bird is going to be worth something (hint: he'll struggle just to get second place in round 1).

...You know what, that would be more fun to talk about than this awful match. Who you got for second tomorrow night, Red Bird or the Mayor of Earth, Mike Haggar?
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#305 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 8/13/2013 9:43:34 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
DoctorJimmy133 posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
I'm not a Chrono Trigger fan. But Missingno. having any strength at all is moronic, and the fact that the board tried to push him over Crono even for a moment speaks volumes about how dumb it can be at times.

Gotta keep things in perspective.


Missingno beating Crono was pretty dumb too! Not as much though because at least Missingno was a HUGE deal back when RBY was a thing. The legendary Level 100+ Pokémon in Cinnabar, the savegame destruction rumor, the infinite rare candy trick, all of this made Missingno a huge deal to anyone who played RBY when it came out. But Magikarp? Magikarp's a random-ass Pokemon. It's like voting for Pidgey just because it's probably the first Pokémon you caught in RBY. It's a shameful amount of fanboyism for a game that was great, but doesn't need nor deserve such a deranged amount of love.


Who did not have a Gyarados in their party back in the original Red/Blue? The same concept you laid out for Missingno. applies here.
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#306 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/13/2013 9:45:39 PM | message detail
Magikarp is one of the most well-known Pokemon in the entire series, of course it was going to have some strength.
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#307 | SonicRaptor | Posted 8/13/2013 9:45:57 PM | message detail
Anyone else glad Magikarp isn't turning out to be the joke character juggernaut (like L-Block and Missingno in their respective bracket-killing years) that does nothing but kill brackets like everyone feared at contest beginning?
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#308 | Lopen | Posted 8/13/2013 9:48:04 PM | message detail | (edited)
I'm pretty impartial (lost bracket aside) to Magikarp here. On the one hand he's the best joke we've had-- on the other we've had so many jokes that the whole idea is kinda stale at the moment. Also Mega Man is the only NN aside from maybe Seph that I'd legit feel sorta bad for getting tossed under the bus. Dude's had it rough lately in contest and from Capcom
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#309 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/13/2013 9:47:43 PM | message detail
Anyone else glad Magikarp isn't turning out to be the joke character juggernaut (like L-Block and Missingno in their respective bracket-killing years) that does nothing but kill brackets like everyone feared at contest beginning?

Was anyone outside of a few people serious about that? Assuming Mega Man keeps increasing this does put Magikarp as a really high mid-carder.
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#310 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 8/13/2013 9:47:49 PM | message detail
What? People love Tetris! It'd surely be higher in the X-stats if they just mixed the damn regions and it got to go against more recent releases instead of getting '80s SFFed.
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#311 | Lopen | Posted 8/13/2013 9:49:05 PM | message detail
Nah I'm pretty sure Tetris would get rocked at any point it went against any strong entrant. Tetris is basically to games what Pac-Man is to characters.
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#312 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/13/2013 9:49:45 PM | message detail
I'm sure the round 1/2 points weren't really that detrimental in 2010
now, if Missingno beat Sephiroth that year, THAT would've been interesting
#313 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/13/2013 9:51:51 PM | message detail
_SecretSquirrel posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
DoctorJimmy133 posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
I'm not a Chrono Trigger fan. But Missingno. having any strength at all is moronic, and the fact that the board tried to push him over Crono even for a moment speaks volumes about how dumb it can be at times.

Gotta keep things in perspective.


Missingno beating Crono was pretty dumb too! Not as much though because at least Missingno was a HUGE deal back when RBY was a thing. The legendary Level 100+ Pokémon in Cinnabar, the savegame destruction rumor, the infinite rare candy trick, all of this made Missingno a huge deal to anyone who played RBY when it came out. But Magikarp? Magikarp's a random-ass Pokemon. It's like voting for Pidgey just because it's probably the first Pokémon you caught in RBY. It's a shameful amount of fanboyism for a game that was great, but doesn't need nor deserve such a deranged amount of love.


Who did not have a Gyarados in their party back in the original Red/Blue? The same concept you laid out for Missingno. applies here.


I didn't, for example. I put a crazy amount of time into RBY and like none of it was spent using Gyarados. It's been years since I've played a Pokémon game and I still remember the lineup I used, something like Starter, Dragonite, Eeveelution, Martial Arts Master or Snorlax, Kadabra/Alakazam/Mewtwo, and then whatever I felt patched the holes in my party at the time (big fondness for the ghosts in particular though). Gyarados didn't even rate compared to all of those. Why would I take a fake dragonfish that requires an enormous amount of time spent leveling a worthless fish when I could just spend all that time getting a real, badass dragon instead?

Lopen posted...
What Kanz is saying about MissingNo is about as legitimate as people saying they're voting for L-Block out of some profound respect for the same Tetris that gets like 15% in the x-stats

People only vote for MissingNo cause they really $'M4¶¶ż=ɏǽʕ

Has nothing to do with "fond memories"


Ask the board, L. You're totally gonna get people telling you about how a friend told them about the superleveled pokemon, the broken save files and the infinite items during one of their school breaks or on the bus trip from or back to home. A lot of people probably voted for Missingno out of the sheer absurdity of its presence too, but I can see the reasons why someone would fondly recall learning about him. It happened to me, after all.
#314 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/13/2013 9:52:04 PM | message detail
I have good memories of Missingno and Magikarp. The Missingno glitch was amazingly cool when I was younger, and I've trained a bunch of Magikarps into lean, mean, fighting machines.
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#315 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 8/13/2013 9:52:24 PM | message detail
Kanz, the guy that is trying to legitimately rally a LEAGUE OF LEGENDS TURBOFODDER CHARACTER WITH A JOKE MEME THAT NOBODY ON THIS SITE CARES ABOUT OVER MEGA MAN X, is complaining about a Pokemon leading Mega Man for like 3 minutes.

REALLY?
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#316 | Lopen | Posted 8/13/2013 9:52:50 PM | message detail
Oh okay I'll ask the board for an unbiased account of Poke-- are you a freaking idiot.
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#317 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 8/13/2013 9:54:36 PM | message detail
AxemRedRanger posted...
Kanz, the guy that is trying to legitimately rally a LEAGUE OF LEGENDS TURBOFODDER CHARACTER WITH A JOKE MEME THAT NOBODY ON THIS SITE CARES ABOUT OVER MEGA MAN X, is complaining about a Pokemon leading Mega Man for like 3 minutes.

REALLY?


This is what I was thinking, too.
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#318 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/13/2013 9:55:08 PM | message detail
I voted for Missingno three times last contest because he was against three worthless characters. Crono? Yoshi? Sephiroth? I'll take my Missingno glitch memories over those guys, thanks. I'd easily vote Magikarp over them too. The second Missingno hit an actual good character, I dropped him like a sack of potatoes.
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#319 | jacko_vdz | Posted 8/13/2013 9:57:55 PM | message detail
Magikarp still winning in Australia, I'm so proud.
#320 | Lopen | Posted 8/13/2013 9:58:23 PM | message detail
Fun fact I've voted MissingNo in half of his matches because Crono and Yoshi are worthless piles

That doesn't mean I did it out of any sense of respect for the memories (yes I remember the glitch too) I did it because M'''¶¶ŁĄŮŘ˝© is better than said worthless piles
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#321 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/13/2013 9:59:22 PM | message detail
Lopen posted...
Oh okay I'll ask the board for an unbiased account of Poke-- are you a freaking idiot.


Ask other people who you know played Pokemon then. You probably know some. They don't even have to frequent the site. Learning about the Missingno glitch and getting your mind blown by it was something that happened to a lot of people. A lot.

AxemRedRanger posted...
Kanz, the guy that is trying to legitimately rally a LEAGUE OF LEGENDS TURBOFODDER CHARACTER WITH A JOKE MEME THAT NOBODY ON THIS SITE CARES ABOUT OVER MEGA MAN X, is complaining about a Pokemon leading Mega Man for like 3 minutes.

REALLY?


Yeah, really. What's so crazy about it? Draven's cool, but the reason I'd like him to pull off a shocker (contest unpredictability and potential for higher votals in subsequent matches from people sticking around aside) is because he's the entrant who acts a stand-in for a game and a company I really like and who got several other companies to step up their game in the process of becoming both hugely successful and well liked. If the board decided that it'd be cool for Magikarp to do this out of pure love for RBY and Nintendo, I'd be considerably less grumpy about it. That's something I can respect. Voting because you buy into the board's hivemind hype feedback loop is less respectable.
#322 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/13/2013 10:00:45 PM | message detail
Mega Man with an exact lead of 1000 votes at the end of the first hour.
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#323 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 8/13/2013 10:03:06 PM | message detail
Kanz, don't even try. You've lost all credibility.

I guess in a way though, League of Legends winning the contest would be good for something:

It would prove its the biggest joke this site has ever seen.
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#324 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/13/2013 10:03:24 PM | message detail
Also, Magikarp is freefalling pretty fast. He's inching towards Ness' result on Geno with every update.
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#325 | IngmarBirdman | Posted 8/13/2013 10:04:18 PM | message detail
Infidel of the week LOCKED UP.

lol Magikarp ... my Oracle wept.
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#326 | Lopen | Posted 8/13/2013 10:04:42 PM | message detail
Yeah I know plenty of Pokemon players and that glitch isn't really a huge talking point. It's just one of those weird stories that you talk about more than a mind blowing thing.

Magikarp is easily more appreciated by actual Pokemon people. Magikarp evolving into the biggest baddest dragon mother early in the game when it was the most worthless thing ever is way more mindblowing than some weird M'¶¶ŁĄŮŘ˝© thing
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#327 | creativename | Posted 8/13/2013 10:05:59 PM | message detail
I too think that Magikarp destroying the board vote against freakin' Mega Man is absolutely shameful.

But Kanz, jesus christ, just stop. This ridiculous melodrama is just sad.

KamikazePotato posted...
The second Missingno hit an actual good character, I dropped him like a sack of potatoes.

Which was who? Tidus...?
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#328 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/13/2013 10:07:31 PM | message detail
Tidus.
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#329 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 8/13/2013 10:08:44 PM | message detail
Was that a natural spike or is someone rallying Magikarp somewhere?
#330 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/13/2013 10:09:15 PM | message detail
creativename posted...
I too think that Magikarp destroying the board vote against freakin' Mega Man is absolutely shameful.

But Kanz, jesus christ, just stop. This ridiculous melodrama is just sad.

KamikazePotato posted...
The second Missingno hit an actual good character, I dropped him like a sack of potatoes.

Which was who? Tidus...?


Melodrama? Please, creativename. I'm not fabricating anything here. Why would I fake getting worked up over something like this? That'd be beyond sad. If I posted about this it's because I felt legitimately disgruntled, not because of wanting to stir other people up or something.
#331 | Xuxon | Posted 8/13/2013 10:09:20 PM | message detail
that was the end of the power hour, like clockwork. can't have Karp closer to Geno than MM, that'd be just shameful.
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#332 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/13/2013 10:09:34 PM | message detail
There is a Magikarp rally on /v/, but it hasn't gotten any posts since 12:48 AM. So it might just be a natural spike.
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#333 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/13/2013 10:09:44 PM | message detail
Yeah I'd have disliked a Magikarp victory here (same reasons that most have stated... Mega Man's just had it rough, rip MML3). But it has some reason for people to like it and it being funny, the fact that a Pokemon specifically designed to be worthless can become something so intimidating. It winning the board vote for 3 minutes isn't really that notable, especially since the rest of the site doesn't really seem to feel the same way and it's gonna look pretty bad here relative to Geno, and only sorta respectable 'cause format.
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#334 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/13/2013 10:11:13 PM | message detail
Also, for the record: Now that Magikarp is getting bodied as it should've, I'm much more happy with it. I wouldn't mind seeing it return and maybe wow us by defeating somebody...just not a gaming icon. We shouldn't expect him to do that, nor want him to do that just for the sake of surprising results.
#335 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 8/13/2013 10:12:10 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Also, for the record: Now that Magikarp is getting bodied as it should've, I'm much more happy with it. I wouldn't mind seeing it return and maybe wow us by defeating somebody...just not a gaming icon. We shouldn't expect him to do that, nor want him to do that just for the sake of surprising results.

Literally trying to rally Draven over Ryu and Mega Man X on this site.
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#336 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/13/2013 10:13:34 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Yeah, really. What's so crazy about it? Draven's cool, but the reason I'd like him to pull off a shocker (contest unpredictability and potential for higher votals in subsequent matches from people sticking around aside)


I do want to see Draven go deep into the contest to help drive up the vote totals and site traffic, because something needs to be done to get more people to the site with these vote totals right now.
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#337 | creativename | Posted 8/13/2013 10:13:56 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Melodrama? Please, creativename. I'm not fabricating anything here. Why would I fake getting worked up over something like this? That'd be beyond sad. If I posted about this it's because I felt legitimately disgruntled, not because of wanting to stir other people up or something.

Your whole reaction is just way too over the top. Chill, man.

Also Epona is no joke! OoT players genuinely love that horse. Getting Epona is an awesome moment and having Epona changes the overworld completely.
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#338 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/13/2013 10:14:29 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Also, for the record: Now that Magikarp is getting bodied as it should've, I'm much more happy with it. I wouldn't mind seeing it return and maybe wow us by defeating somebody...just not a gaming icon. We shouldn't expect him to do that, nor want him to do that just for the sake of surprising results.


*claims he doesn't want Magikarp to beat a gaming icon*
*tries to rally for Draven to win over Mega Man X/Ryu*
#339 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/13/2013 10:14:59 PM | message detail
I'd call the Missingno glitch in RBY more impactful on my playing experience than getting Epona was. If Missingno's a joke, so's Epona! Epona even had jokier trends!
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#340 | hylianknight3 | Posted 8/13/2013 10:15:05 PM | message detail
Magikarp shouldn't even come close to Mega Man, but Draven should beat Mega Man X... I see...
#341 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/13/2013 10:15:23 PM | message detail
I'd stress that people by and large really don't care about Epona... but we'll see that when she loses to Ike, anyway. It gets default votes, really.
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#342 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 8/13/2013 10:15:52 PM | message detail
Man, someone give this guy a box of tissues or something.
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#343 | creativename | Posted 8/13/2013 10:17:14 PM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
I do want to see Draven go deep into the contest to help drive up the vote totals and site traffic, because something needs to be done to get more people to the site with these vote totals right now.

Consider me highly skeptical that Draven would actually drive vote totals that weren't BS.

It might be able to rally against garbage entrants, but against MMX/Ryu it likely isn't going to drive up the votes much, and any non-stuffed votes will be voting for MMX or Ryu at least at a 50% rate. No way do legit votes not vote for MMX and Ryu in large numbers. Any votes that go almost 100% for Draven are almost certainly stuffing and nothing more.

Stuffing does not actually increase site traffic.
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#344 | xp1337 | Posted 8/13/2013 10:17:26 PM | message detail
I think I might be one of the more anti-joke character people here, but Magikarp just strikes me as one of the more "benign" cases. Putting Epona and Magikarp on the same level as L-Block and Missingno just seems weird to me. Draven is a weird case where I'm opposed to it just because seeing turbofodder willed to win by outside forces isn't something I particularly want to see.

Getting the feeling this is more about Mega Man than it is Magikarp!
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#345 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/13/2013 10:17:32 PM | message detail
_SecretSquirrel posted...
Man, someone give this guy a box of tissues or something.


Pokemon never fails to bring the tears, win or lose
I look forward to Pikachu's match
#346 | Sorozone | Posted 8/13/2013 10:18:32 PM | message detail
Eh, the only thing I care about in a Draven rally is like 30 or 40% of the rally votes from Euroland going to Ryu... >_>
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#347 | xp1337 | Posted 8/13/2013 10:18:45 PM | message detail
Hey, if we want to nominate mindblowing glitches we should get supersliding from OoT in somehow.

That changed my OoT playing experience more than anything else! Epona has nothing on that!
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#348 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/13/2013 10:18:52 PM | message detail
creativename posted...
-LusterSoldier- posted...
I do want to see Draven go deep into the contest to help drive up the vote totals and site traffic, because something needs to be done to get more people to the site with these vote totals right now.

Consider me highly skeptical that Draven would actually drive vote totals that weren't BS.

It might be able to rally against garbage entrants, but against MMX/Ryu it likely isn't going to drive up the votes much, and any non-stuffed votes will be voting for MMX or Ryu at least at a 50% rate. No way do legit votes not vote for MMX and Ryu in large numbers. Any votes that go almost 100% for Draven are almost certainly stuffing and nothing more.

Stuffing does not actually increase site traffic.


more importantly, if LoL people show up for Draven's matches and disappear immediately afterwards, "increased traffic" becomes worthless
#349 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/13/2013 10:20:03 PM | message detail
Missingno actually is a sentient...okay, a being, though. You can catch him in Pokemon RBY. I've done it - not the best idea, but I've done it.
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#350 | creativename | Posted 8/13/2013 10:20:33 PM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
I'd call the Missingno glitch in RBY more impactful on my playing experience than getting Epona was. If Missingno's a joke, so's Epona! Epona even had jokier trends!

Epona dropped 8 points from the freeze, and that's with a higher percentage to drop from. Karp has already lost more than that and it's a much higher percentage of it's votes.

Epona did not have jokier trends than Karp :)
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