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Karma Hunter posted... Char, I don't disagree that there are other possible explanations for the matches I listed. The problem is those aren't going to happen. --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
Also
Ganondorf, just about every Mario character, and just about every
Pokemon character aside from Missingno. Also, Ike's performance was more
or less against two other Nintendo characters anyway. Nintendo looks
fine. Nook and Ridley are not the barometers we should be using to judge
them. --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/gdl8lcn.jpg |
yeah go my wrex shotgun this pansy paladin --- ~FFDragon. (at Work !!) The Cream of Resident Evil Fanboyism. |
Charizard will likely look terrible against Riku, unless the board has finally bought into his exposure already. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 57/70 Today's Picks: Red and Cecil |
Achromatic posted... Karma Hunter posted...Char, I don't disagree that there are other possible explanations for the matches I listed. Like Missingno going 50/50 with Tidus wasn't going to happen, I get it. Things are impossible until they aren't. Charizard underperforming wouldn't even have me bat an eye at this point. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Cecil's easily the manliest Final Fantasy lead...! High praise, I know. --- ~War~ |
Also
Nook outperformed our Oracle expectations, I'm pretty sure! It's not
like he was ever that strong before, so it's a stretch to say that
"almost losing to Pyramid Head" is an underperformance when Pyramid Head
had the win over Chris Redfield, which is already more impressive than
anything Nook has in the first place. --- http://i.imgur.com/a4GuDV3.gif |
What are ya'll expecting from Charizard? I hope not a doubling... --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif |
Like Missingno going 50/50 with Tidus wasn't going to happen, I get it. While I don't think anyone was really calling the match to be 50/50 I know some people expected an underperformance. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 57/70 Today's Picks: Red and Cecil |
Karma Hunter posted... Achromatic posted...Karma Hunter posted...Char, I don't disagree that there are other possible explanations for the matches I listed. I personally thought Missingno was going to blow Tidus out, but to be fair I did kind of forget Tidus isn't as weak as we make him out to be sometimes, he just doesn't win close matches. Also Missingno has gone roughly 50/50 in all of his matches, why should Tidus be any different? I will bet you anything in the world Bowser beats the living *** out of Sub Zero, btw. --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
ChenKenichiFan posted... Also Ganondorf, just about every Mario character, and just about every Pokemon character aside from Missingno. Also, Ike's performance was more or less against two other Nintendo characters anyway. Nintendo looks fine. Nook and Ridley are not the barometers we should be using to judge them. You're using untested or ridiculously weak fodder, which are far worse barometers. By any estimation Nintendo is not stepping up when it counts so far. Also Nook outperformed our Oracle expectations, I'm pretty sure! It's not like he was ever that strong before, so it's a stretch to say that "almost losing to Pyramid Head" is an underperformance when Pyramid Head had the win over Chris Redfield, which is already more impressive than anything Nook has in the first place. He outperformed Oracle expectations because of Dragonborn's flop. The fact that with a RIDICULOUS picture factor he nearly lost to Pyramid Head is pathetic. PH beating Chris doesn't really mean anything when you look at that match as a whole, they both did horrendously - it's just Chris was ridiculously worthless pre-RE5. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
After the lead staying within 90 for the first 2.5 hours, Wrex shoots up 102 in the last three updates. --- POKEFEAR |
I will bet you anything in the world Bowser beats the living *** out of Sub Zero, btw. Sub-Zero isn't weak, he'll break 40% on Bowser easily. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 57/70 Today's Picks: Red and Cecil |
People continuing to underestimate Sub-Zero I wonder what it'll take for that to stop --- http://www.gifsoup.com/view/593815/frasier-and-niles-dance-o.gif |
Achromatic posted... Karma Hunter posted...Achromatic posted...Karma Hunter posted...Char, I don't disagree that there are other possible explanations for the matches I listed. Sub-Zero won't win. But he can easily crack 45% or better, which would be shameful for the Koopa King. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
KH what exactly were you expecting from a guy who got doubled by Marcus Fenix. I hope not much. --- ~War~ |
ChenKenichiFan posted... and just about every Pokemon character aside from Missingno. I honestly think most Pokemon characters have looked "right about expectations at best." The fact that they've nearly all had matches tailor made for them to score high percentages is deceiving. Lugia barely doubling Sly Cooper is not impressive. --- http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/8/22/2094c2de-bae8-4f5b-9f27-67eaff0aaeaf.jpg |
I will bet you anything you like he won't crack 45%. Seriously. Put your money where your mouth is. --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
He
outperformed Oracle expectations because of Dragonborn's flop. The fact
that with a RIDICULOUS picture factor he nearly lost to Pyramid Head is
pathetic. PH beating Chris doesn't really mean anything when you look
at that match as a whole, they both did horrendously - it's just Chris
was ridiculously worthless pre-RE5. You are underrating Pyramid Head 27.23% against Auron vs. 33.68% against Marcus Fenix Honestly without his new games he would have easily lost. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 57/70 Today's Picks: Red and Cecil |
Holy ****, where the hell did Wrex come from --- Oh SuperNiceDog's doing it again dude. SuperNiceDog, you ain't no pimp dude |
Sub-Zero won't win. But he can easily crack 45% or better, which would be shameful for the Koopa King. Not really, that still places Bowser at around the near-elite level. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 57/70 Today's Picks: Red and Cecil |
Achromatic posted... I will bet you anything you like he won't crack 45%. I'd entertain it, but he probably ends up in the 42-44% range. 45% is something that could still easily happen. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Nook's
past performances include getting doubled by Marcus Phoenix and Lloyd
Irving. Pyramid Head avoided the doubling against Shadow, and say what
you will about Shadow, but that's better than actually getting doubled
against the guys Nook lost to. He's really, really weak. The insane
stand out factor is probably the only reason he was favored over PH in
the first place - he looks hilarious up there and he's the only Nintendo
character, so that should propel him into second place. It did. The Nintendo matches that actually matter from here all out almost all involve the Pokemon, and using anyone BUT the Pokemon to try and get a gauge on the Pokemon is just begging for trouble. Pokemon Pokemon Pokemon --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif |
Shoenin_Kakashi posted... Holy ****, where the hell did Wrex come from Rally I think. It was mentioned earlier in the topic. Seems to be sort of slowing down now though? |
ChenKenichiFan posted... Nook's past performances include getting doubled by Marcus Phoenix and Lloyd Irving. Pyramid Head avoided the doubling against Shadow, and say what you will about Shadow, but that's better than actually getting doubled against the guys Nook lost to. He's really, really weak. The insane stand out factor is probably the only reason he was favored over PH in the first place - he looks hilarious up there and he's the only Nintendo character, so that should propel him into second place. It did. I hate to even voice the thought, but what if Vincent humiliates Mewtwo --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
KanzarisKelshen posted... Rally I think. It was mentioned earlier in the topic. Seems to be sort of slowing down now though? spoilers Wrex was winning before the rally went up --- http://i.imgur.com/CbfFb.jpg |
Well
that's the match everyone is waiting for. But what if Mewtwo looks
really good or actually does the unthinkable? Is Nintendo suddenly "on a
roll"? --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/NQTthNf.jpg |
ChenKenichiFan posted... Well that's the match everyone is waiting for. But what if Mewtwo looks really good or actually does the unthinkable? Is Nintendo suddenly "on a roll"? Nope we're back to FFVII just sucking...! --- http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7760/222bj.jpg |
LeonhartFour posted... KanzarisKelshen posted...Rally I think. It was mentioned earlier in the topic. Seems to be sort of slowing down now though? Sure, but it was really close. Then he exploded and started pulling in thirty vote gains per update. |
Shoenin_Kakashi posted... Holy ****, where the hell did Wrex come from Tuchanka --- ~FFDragon. (at Work !!) The Cream of Resident Evil Fanboyism. |
KanzarisKelshen posted... Sure, but it was really close. Then he exploded and started pulling in thirty vote gains per update. That's ME's day vote vs. FFIV's day vote at work. --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
What if Fire Emblem is actually absurdly strong? What if Phoenix beats Vincent? What if The Boss does great? What if Dracula beats Barret? What if Tharja breaks 15%? --- ~War~ |
ChenKenichiFan posted... Well that's the match everyone is waiting for. But what if Mewtwo looks really good or actually does the unthinkable? Is Nintendo suddenly "on a roll"? There's obviously a factor of reevaluation that goes on for these things. I'm just using the data we have right now. Mewtwo > Vincent is obviously a reevaluating indicator. Like I made with the Snake/Tanner comparison, fodder blowouts are not reliable indicators. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
sub-zero
and scorpion ARE mortal kombat. they're both strong, scorpion just got
a bad draw this contest. I still remember that line from malcom in the
middle where his dad says malcom is lying because it's impossible to
beat sub-zero |
There's
obviously a factor of reevaluation that goes on for these things. I'm
just using the data we have right now. Mewtwo > Vincent is obviously a
reevaluating indicator. Like I made with the Snake/Tanner comparison,
fodder blowouts are not reliable indicators. So we can't use matches of Nintendo doing well because we have no indicators, but calling for their heads when they perform roughly as expected, but lose is okay? --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 57/70 Today's Picks: Red and Cecil |
But if Vincent does something like blowout Mewtwo I don't wanna hear people say "well of course THAT was expected." At this point, it's most certainly not. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Nintendo losing is enough to call for their heads yes Because Nintendo NEVER LOSES --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
LeonhartFour posted... KanzarisKelshen posted...Sure, but it was really close. Then he exploded and started pulling in thirty vote gains per update. Looks more like Europe to me. Look how hard Wrex is dominating the UK. |
Karma Hunter posted... But if Vincent does something like blowout Mewtwo I don't wanna hear people say "well of course THAT was expected." At this point, it's most certainly not. I still expect it...! Vincent > Phoenix > Mewtwo here we come --- http://i.imgur.com/CbfFb.jpg |
Nintendo? Lose? NAW! --- ~War~ |
KanzarisKelshen posted... Looks more like Europe to me. Look how hard Wrex is dominating the UK. And for some reason Europe normally has nothing to do with how the day vote goes...? --- http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/9919/leonhart.png |
charmander6000 posted... There's obviously a factor of reevaluation that goes on for these things. I'm just using the data we have right now. Mewtwo > Vincent is obviously a reevaluating indicator. Like I made with the Snake/Tanner comparison, fodder blowouts are not reliable indicators. These matches have not been 'roughly as expected,' or the bracket favoritism would reflect that. Doing well is all relative - remember when we thought Magus did great on Luca Blight? Turned out it was horrific. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Using
Ganondorf Mewtwo should have a half decent chance at breaking 40% on a
constant Vincent, but KOS-MOS breaking 40% is terrible no matter how you
look at it. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 57/70 Today's Picks: Red and Cecil |
charmander6000 posted... Using Ganondorf Mewtwo should have a half decent chance at breaking 40% on a constant Vincent, but KOS-MOS breaking 40% is terrible no matter how you look at it. It is horrible. Much of FF7 has looked terrible. The point is EVERYONE is ready to jump over FF7 looking terrible. No one is even willing to entertain my theory. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
People are so ready to jump over FFVII looking terrible that they were quick to extend it to all of modern FF in general! Modern FF looks terrible but Missingno nearly loses to Tidus and it's "fine...!" --- http://i.imgur.com/kCpvD.gif |
LeonhartFour posted... KanzarisKelshen posted...Looks more like Europe to me. Look how hard Wrex is dominating the UK. Maybe with the start. Traditionally most of the day vote belongs to NA. |
And lost in all this is how badly Wrex is throttling Cecil right now. Cecil might end up closer to Pit than Wrex before this is over. --- http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/8/22/2094c2de-bae8-4f5b-9f27-67eaff0aaeaf.jpg |
KanzarisKelshen posted... LeonhartFour posted...KanzarisKelshen posted...Looks more like Europe to me. Look how hard Wrex is dominating the UK. When you dominate Europe enough it still matters, a lot. Auron/Squall was a day match, and Europe bailed Squall out. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
These
matches have not been 'roughly as expected,' or the bracket favoritism
would reflect that. Doing well is all relative - remember when we
thought Magus did great on Luca Blight? Turned out it was horrific. But it's true, outside of new characters (which are unreliable) the only Nintendo characters to have actually underperformed from your list is Marth and Missingno. Even then Phoenix Wright being stronger was expected and before that they were expected to have roughly the same strength. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 57/70 Today's Picks: Red and Cecil |
LeonhartFour posted... And lost in all this is how badly Wrex is throttling Cecil right now. Cecil might end up closer to Pit than Wrex before this is over. Yeah, but I'm willing to cut Cecil some slack because he got stuck with another day match draw. NOT PIT THOUGH --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
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