Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1108

#1 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/13/2013 9:17:00 AM | message detail
"Wrex."

"Shepard."

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~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

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~*Say What? Common Stats Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote. This is the best example of SFF we've ever seen. However take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make perfect sense.

Extrapolated Standings - The mathematical "strength" of a contestant that's determined based on their performance relative to the rest of the field. This number is typically based on the contest entrant's loss, but adjustments are sometimes made. See above for a watered down explanation for how the stats are calculated.
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#2 | paulg235 | Posted 8/13/2013 9:17:31 AM | message detail
WrexFAQS
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#3 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 8/13/2013 9:27:22 AM | message detail
Epona legit.
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#4 | nintendogirl2 | Posted 8/13/2013 9:27:28 AM | message detail
Now THAT'S a cut.

Pit: 0
Wrex: 45
Cecil: 39
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#5 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 8/13/2013 9:27:38 AM | message detail
Pit being the favorite here just said that everyone was way overrating Pit.
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#6 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 8/13/2013 9:27:41 AM | message detail
LOL Pit
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#7 | raytan7585 | Posted 8/13/2013 9:27:45 AM | message detail
Hang on, Cecil!
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#8 | Karma Hunter (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/13/2013 9:28:04 AM | message detail
BK_Sheikah00 posted...
Epona legit.


Mordin is not strong, he's probably among the weakest entities from ME. She won't even beat Ike.
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#9 | nintendogirl2 | Posted 8/13/2013 9:28:38 AM | message detail
FranzyvonKarma posted...
Pit being the favorite here just said that everyone was way overrating Pit.


Wasn't Cecil the favourite?

Why was Pit the favourite? That seems dumb.
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#10 | ZFS | Posted 8/13/2013 9:28:40 AM | message detail
Well, if Pit can't win, then let's go Cecil. Wrex winning would be no good!
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#11 | Kibago | Posted 8/13/2013 9:28:43 AM | message detail
BK_Sheikah00 posted...
Epona legit.


the real story
HorseFAQs alive and well
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#12 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/13/2013 9:28:48 AM | message detail
IN ON THE GROUND FLOOR

And goddamn, I DON'T KNOW WHO TO CHEER FOR HALP

Cecil deserves his win, but Wrex is freakin' Wrex...I DON'T KNOW WHO TO ROOT FOR
#13 | Karma Hunter (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/13/2013 9:28:50 AM | message detail
FranzyvonKarma posted...
Pit being the favorite here just said that everyone was way overrating Pit.


And why was everyone overrating Pit? I got one word!
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#14 | superange128 | Posted 8/13/2013 9:28:53 AM | message detail
Yeah I figured at this point from what we've seen Pit didn't have much of a chance winning but man I completely wrote off Wrex, it's great that he's making this match.. well a match
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#15 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 8/13/2013 9:29:06 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
FranzyvonKarma posted...
Pit being the favorite here just said that everyone was way overrating Pit.


And why was everyone overrating Pit? I got one word!


Stupid?
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#16 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/13/2013 9:29:15 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
BK_Sheikah00 posted...
Epona legit.


Mordin is not strong, he's probably among the weakest entities from ME. She won't even beat Ike.


Ike's not that strong, is he?
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#17 | ZeldaTPLink | Posted 8/13/2013 9:29:32 AM | message detail
I just can't see Pit winning anything. He is hardly anything more than a Brawl character.
#18 | eaglesarebeasts | Posted 8/13/2013 9:29:38 AM | message detail
I wonder if Liara or Tali could be stronger than Mordin.
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#19 | Karma Hunter (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/13/2013 9:29:50 AM | message detail
nintendogirl2 posted...
FranzyvonKarma posted...
Pit being the favorite here just said that everyone was way overrating Pit.


Wasn't Cecil the favourite?

Why was Pit the favourite? That seems dumb.


Pit was the favorite in our brackets. Cecil is the favorite in Expert after seeing how Brawl entities have gotten smashed and Old Square has impressed.
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#20 | superange128 | Posted 8/13/2013 9:30:05 AM | message detail
nintendogirl2 posted...
FranzyvonKarma posted...
Pit being the favorite here just said that everyone was way overrating Pit.


Wasn't Cecil the favourite?

Why was Pit the favourite? That seems dumb.


People probably overrated Smash/NintendoFAQs a bit

those don't apply if you don't have at least a kinda popular (older) game or a super fan favorite like Falcon/Marth
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#21 | Karma Hunter (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/13/2013 9:30:25 AM | message detail
eaglesarebeasts posted...
I wonder if Liara or Tali could be stronger than Mordin.


They both are. Easily. Mordin is NOT strong. Anyone who's played ME should know this! He's the Otacon of ME.
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#22 | superange128 | Posted 8/13/2013 9:30:38 AM | message detail
eaglesarebeasts posted...
I wonder if Liara or Tali could be stronger than Mordin.


I would say definitely Tali is stronger

Liara... would probably be around Mordin
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#23 | nintendogirl2 | Posted 8/13/2013 9:30:43 AM | message detail
Anyways - home time.

Keep this warmed up while I'm gone or let Cecil streak ahead. Both are cool by me.
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#24 | Qwaar | Posted 8/13/2013 9:30:50 AM | message detail
eaglesarebeasts posted...
I wonder if Liara or Tali could be stronger than Mordin.


It's a crime that Liara wasn't in the contest.
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#25 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 8/13/2013 9:31:04 AM | message detail
#26 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 8/13/2013 9:31:17 AM | message detail
#27 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 8/13/2013 9:31:26 AM | message detail
If those goes Wrex .> Cecil > Pit(and it's looking like it has a good chance) then people who had Pit > Cecil will get more points than people who had Cecil > Pit
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#28 | ShatteredElysium | Posted 8/13/2013 9:31:28 AM | message detail
nintendogirl2 posted...
FranzyvonKarma posted...
Pit being the favorite here just said that everyone was way overrating Pit.


Wasn't Cecil the favourite?

Why was Pit the favourite? That seems dumb.


I think everyone forgot about Cecil/Knuckles. I know I did. I instantly changed my mind on the match after someone reminded me.
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#29 | ZeldaTPLink | Posted 8/13/2013 9:31:30 AM | message detail
superange128 posted...
nintendogirl2 posted...
FranzyvonKarma posted...
Pit being the favorite here just said that everyone was way overrating Pit.


Wasn't Cecil the favourite?

Why was Pit the favourite? That seems dumb.


People probably overrated Smash/NintendoFAQs a bit

those don't apply if you don't have at least a kinda popular (older) game or a super fan favorite like Falcon/Marth


Also there is a difference between BrawlFAQs and SmashFAQs. Melee is more popular than Brawl, characters from Brawl who didn't appear in Melee shouldn't be as strong.
#30 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/13/2013 9:31:38 AM | message detail
Noooooo he's losing ground

Please tell me Wrex has a power hour vote so I can hang on to hope guys :(
#31 | Kibago | Posted 8/13/2013 9:32:07 AM | message detail
cecil stop being 2D tidus

...cecil is absolutely 2D tidus
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#32 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 8/13/2013 9:32:28 AM | message detail
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Also there is a difference between BrawlFAQs and SmashFAQs. Melee is more popular than Brawl, characters from Brawl who didn't appear in Melee shouldn't be as strong.


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4183
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#33 | Karma Hunter (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/13/2013 9:32:31 AM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Noooooo he's losing ground

Please tell me Wrex has a power hour vote so I can hang on to hope guys :(


an WRPG character doing well in the first hour, xd

(Wrex is going to win.)
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#34 | Crimson Dragoon | Posted 8/13/2013 9:32:57 AM | message detail
oh my god go wrex go
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#35 | superange128 | Posted 8/13/2013 9:33:14 AM | message detail
ShatteredElysium posted...
nintendogirl2 posted...
FranzyvonKarma posted...
Pit being the favorite here just said that everyone was way overrating Pit.


Wasn't Cecil the favourite?

Why was Pit the favourite? That seems dumb.


I think everyone forgot about Cecil/Knuckles. I know I did. I instantly changed my mind on the match after someone reminded me.


Yeah I'm just guessing people thought it was a fluke and expected him to be the same guy who got destroyed by Kirby in 2005
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#36 | Karma Hunter (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/13/2013 9:33:41 AM | message detail
ZeldaTPLink posted...
superange128 posted...
nintendogirl2 posted...
FranzyvonKarma posted...
Pit being the favorite here just said that everyone was way overrating Pit.


Wasn't Cecil the favourite?

Why was Pit the favourite? That seems dumb.


People probably overrated Smash/NintendoFAQs a bit

those don't apply if you don't have at least a kinda popular (older) game or a super fan favorite like Falcon/Marth


Also there is a difference between BrawlFAQs and SmashFAQs. Melee is more popular than Brawl, characters from Brawl who didn't appear in Melee shouldn't be as strong.


Brawl beat Melee... but I agree. Brawl can't win that match today, after our latest site shift. The more insular voter base will decisively side with Melee.
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#37 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/13/2013 9:33:46 AM | message detail
ZeldaTPLink posted...
I just can't see Pit winning anything. He is hardly anything more than a Brawl character.


He has had more recent non-SSB exposure than the likes of Captain Falcon, Marth, and even Fox though!

Okay those are probably bad examples. But he has more recent exposure than the vast majority of Brawl characters.

Uh...HAHA PALUTENA FINISHED SECOND IN HER MATCH WHILE PIT CAN'T EVEN STAY OUT OF THIRD!
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#38 | Qwaar | Posted 8/13/2013 9:34:18 AM | message detail
Then00bAvenger posted...
If those goes Wrex .> Cecil > Pit(and it's looking like it has a good chance) then people who had Pit > Cecil will get more points than people who had Cecil > Pit


I'm trying not to think about that.
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#39 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 8/13/2013 9:34:29 AM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Also there is a difference between BrawlFAQs and SmashFAQs. Melee is more popular than Brawl, characters from Brawl who didn't appear in Melee shouldn't be as strong.


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4183


Games =/= characters. Meta Knight is probably the only character not in Melee that people would care about from Brawl.
#40 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 8/13/2013 9:34:41 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Brawl beat Melee... but I agree. Brawl can't win that match today, after our latest site shift. The more insular voter base will decisively side with Melee.


And this is based on...?
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#41 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/13/2013 9:34:48 AM | message detail
Kibago posted...
cecil stop being 2D tidus

...cecil is absolutely 2D tidus


...My god, it makes too much sense!
#42 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 8/13/2013 9:35:21 AM | message detail
TheOneAboveAll posted...
Not_Wylvane posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Also there is a difference between BrawlFAQs and SmashFAQs. Melee is more popular than Brawl, characters from Brawl who didn't appear in Melee shouldn't be as strong.


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4183


Games =/= characters. Meta Knight is probably the only character not in Melee that people would care about from Brawl.


But he was talking about Melee being more popular than Brawl.
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#43 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/13/2013 9:35:21 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Brawl beat Melee... but I agree. Brawl can't win that match today, after our latest site shift. The more insular voter base will decisively side with Melee.


quick, do a games contest with this voter base!
#44 | Haste_2 | Posted 8/13/2013 9:35:47 AM | message detail
The thing is, Cecil is not up to his 2010 level here. I blame the pic.

While the match COULD go neck and neck with Cecil and Wrex, Wrex has won three of the last four updates. I hope Wrex's best time is now rather than later.
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#45 | Karma Hunter (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/13/2013 9:36:01 AM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Brawl beat Melee... but I agree. Brawl can't win that match today, after our latest site shift. The more insular voter base will decisively side with Melee.


quick, do a games contest with this voter base!


FF6 > SSBB

brawl no chance
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#46 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 8/13/2013 9:36:30 AM | message detail
lmao two-vote cut

Wrex's dash to the lead sure is slow.
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#47 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/13/2013 9:36:36 AM | message detail
lol Pit.

He's collapsing.
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#48 | ZeldaTPLink | Posted 8/13/2013 9:37:07 AM | message detail
Ok, Melee is not more popular than Brawl. I had forgotten that match.

Still... I feel like Melee has a nostalgia thing that Brawl doesn't. Melee characters are all loved. While Brawl characters... seriously, who cares about Kid Icarus?
#49 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/13/2013 9:37:07 AM | message detail
THE SPIKE! TIME FOR THE AIR COMBO!

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#50 | vcharon | Posted 8/13/2013 9:37:17 AM | message detail
I think Pit is pretty much done now.
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