Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1107

#151 | FFDragon | Posted 8/12/2013 9:08:57 PM | message detail
This is straight murder.
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#152 | Kibago | Posted 8/12/2013 9:09:55 PM | message detail
every Brawl picture on the internet must be burned

(wait, has mewtwo gotten 'brawl pics' until now
mewtwo > sonic sprite pics believe)
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#153 | -hotdogturtle-- | Posted 8/12/2013 9:10:07 PM | message detail
RIP my 1 extra point that I could have gotten by no-picking this match. Gonna end with +2 instead of +3.
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#154 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/12/2013 9:10:10 PM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
Pokemon ready to display its new FFVII trends!

are we prepared


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#155 | jacko_vdz | Posted 8/12/2013 9:10:16 PM | message detail
Pokemon almost always has a beast second update:

Blue did the same thing vs Fox/Wolf
Trainers did the same thing vs Mowser
#156 | -hotdogturtle-- | Posted 8/12/2013 9:11:07 PM | message detail
From: KamikazePotato | #144
Brawl pics are officially considered pic sabotage now, right

They always were.

Except maybe for Mr. Game & Watch.
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#157 | kinsho3 | Posted 8/12/2013 9:11:56 PM | message detail
Pokemon Trainer Red is getting about 87.5% on Sissel.

Crono only got around 80% on Missile.

Another nail in Crono's coffin....
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#158 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 8/12/2013 9:12:25 PM | message detail
-hotdogturtle-- posted...
From: KamikazePotato | #144
Brawl pics are officially considered pic sabotage now, right

They always were.

Except maybe for Mr. Game & Watch.


Star Fox? Captain Falcon?
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#159 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/12/2013 9:12:28 PM | message detail
lol still this Brawl picture nonsense. Newsflash: Red wouldn't suddenly have 60% here if he was "burdened" with his Brawl pic. You'd think the difference was as extreme as Solid S*** or something. I've never seen a character go from hand-drawn 2D to computer-generated 3D and look as unchanged as Red has.
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#160 | Kibago | Posted 8/12/2013 9:12:52 PM | message detail
Corvo/Sissel looks pretty done
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#161 | Big Bob | Posted 8/12/2013 9:13:18 PM | message detail
Sissel is the main character of the game while Missile is just a side character.

On the other hand, Missile's a f***ing dog.
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#162 | -hotdogturtle-- | Posted 8/12/2013 9:13:18 PM | message detail
From: Kibago | #152
wait, has mewtwo gotten 'brawl pics' until now

http://www.ssbwiki.com/images/b/b2/Mewtwo_Trophy_Render.png
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#163 | GloryChaos | Posted 8/12/2013 9:13:26 PM | message detail
-hotdogturtle-- posted...
From: KamikazePotato | #144
Brawl pics are officially considered pic sabotage now, right

They always were.

Except maybe for Mr. Game & Watch.


Agreeing with this 100%. They only help characters who get most of their power from brawl. Like Ness and Captain Falcon.

By the way...
http://media.tumblr.com/ff872ab2b1a9e0375ddba9b620e1b5e0/tumblr_inline_mrgbdhGWt21qz4rgp.png

Sissel...doesn't deserve to lose to Corvo, guys. ;_;
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#164 | ZFS | Posted 8/12/2013 9:13:52 PM | message detail
Yeah, not getting the deal about Brawl pics. He looks the same, one is just artwork. Red's percentage is due to his super weak opponents more than anything. What is suggesting Brawl pics are bad?
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#165 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 8/12/2013 9:14:34 PM | message detail
kinsho3 posted...
Pokemon Trainer Red is getting about 87.5% on Sissel.

Crono only got around 80% on Missile.

Another nail in Crono's coffin....


Pikachu to 60-40 Crono and Magus combined?
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#166 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/12/2013 9:14:48 PM | message detail
Updated Top 10

Top 10 Least Popular Day Polls
1. Amaterasu vs. Vyse vs. Adol Christin – Round 1 – 25586
2. Gilgamesh vs. Booker DeWitt vs. Kaim Argonar – Round 1 – 25976
3. Mr. Game & Watch vs. Lee Everett vs. Meat Boy – Round 1 – 26421
4. Ganondorf vs. Guybrush Threepwood vs. Max Payne – Round 1 – 27065
5. Ness vs. Locke Cole vs. CATS – Round 1 – 27607
6. Magus vs. Otacon vs. Jade Curtiss – Round 1 – 28173
7. Wario vs. Creeper vs. The King of All Cosmos – Round 1 – 28178
8. Leon Kennedy vs. Albert Wesker vs. Oliver – Round 1 – 28303
9. Frog vs. Viewtiful Joe vs. Handsome Jack – Round 1 – 28522
10. Dante vs. Laharl vs. Raz – Round 1 – 28802

Top 10 Least Predictable Matches
1. Yuna vs. Master Chief vs. Claire Redfield – Round 1 – 15.40%
2. Mr. Game & Watch vs. Lee Everett vs. Meat Boy – Round 1 – 26.40%
3. Catherine vs. Neku Sakaruba vs. Vaas Montenegro – Round 1 – 30.43%
4. Pokemon Trainer Blue vs. Fox McCloud vs. Wolf O’Donnell – Round 1 – 32.98%
5. Draven vs. Jak vs. Chie Satonaka – Round 1 – 38.19%
6. Wario vs. Creeper vs. The King of All Cosmos – Round 1 – 39.12%
7. Yoshimitsu vs. Lu Bu vs. Groose – Round 1 – 39.13%
8. Gilgamesh vs. Booker DeWitt vs. Kaim Argonar – Round 1 – 40.89%
9. Crash Bandicoot vs. Wheatley vs. Tommy Vercetti – Round 1 – 40.90%
10. Frog vs. Viewtiful Joe vs. Handsome Jack – Round 1 – 41.50%
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#167 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 8/12/2013 9:15:05 PM | message detail
ZFS posted...
Yeah, not getting the deal about Brawl pics. He looks the same, one is just artwork. Red's percentage is due to his super weak opponents more than anything. What is suggesting Brawl pics are bad?


There's some nostalgia factor that comes with the art style when it comes to Red. But to say Brawl pics would be "sabotage" for literally anyone else is insane.
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#168 | Rad Link 5 | Posted 8/12/2013 9:15:10 PM | message detail
Bee tee dubs, if you're around creativename, is there any chance you can have the poll updates on your site for the matches with altered final totals (such as Tifa's match) get one final update to reflect the actual final totals? I don't know how reasonable that request is without knowing how you've programmed those pages, but I tend to just look at your site when I want to quickly find the results of a previous match, and I sometimes forget when your site doesn't actually have the correct final numbers. So it'd be helpful to me, if no one else.
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#169 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/12/2013 9:15:13 PM | message detail
TsunamiXXVIII posted...
kinsho3 posted...
Pokemon Trainer Red is getting about 87.5% on Sissel.

Crono only got around 80% on Missile.

Another nail in Crono's coffin....


Pikachu to 60-40 Crono and Magus combined?


that would be the most glorious result ever
#170 | creativename | Posted 8/12/2013 9:15:22 PM | message detail
Big Bob posted...
Sissel is the main character of the game while Missile is just a side character.

On the other hand, Missile's a f***ing dog.

To say in the new stats topic parlance - "DogFAQs is a thing that's actually a thing"
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#171 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/12/2013 9:16:05 PM | message detail
Red's Brawl design is of a redesign that doesn't look at all like the original Red, and also makes him out to be "The Pokemon Trainer from Brawl" instead of "The Pokemon Trainer from POKEMON RED". There's a big difference.
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#172 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 8/12/2013 9:16:12 PM | message detail
Rad Link 5 posted...
Bee tee dubs, if you're around creativename, is there any chance you can have the poll updates on your site for the matches with altered final totals (such as Tifa's match) get one final update to reflect the actual final totals? I don't know how reasonable that request is without knowing how you've programmed those pages, but I tend to just look at your site when I want to quickly find the results of a previous match, and I sometimes forget when your site doesn't actually have the correct final numbers. So it'd be helpful to me, if no one else.


It does have the correct final numbers. It just doesn't have them in the right place, because it's sorted by vote totals instead of by time.
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#173 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/12/2013 9:16:33 PM | message detail
Oh yeah Brawl pics don't really matter for anyone else, I was just referring to Red.
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#174 | -hotdogturtle-- | Posted 8/12/2013 9:17:01 PM | message detail
There should be a bonus match that's just a FFA using this image: http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/b/b6/Sugimori1996.png

All of these characters are actually in this contest this year.
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#175 | ZFS | Posted 8/12/2013 9:17:10 PM | message detail
Who is voting Red with the old pic but not the new one, though? It's not that big of a difference, not enough to radically change his strength.
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#176 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 8/12/2013 9:17:11 PM | message detail
Lead of 1000 exactly! In only 3 updates past the freeze!
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#177 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 8/12/2013 9:17:42 PM | message detail
Corvo doubles Sissel on that update.

Sissel so bad
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#178 | Xillia_is_cool | Posted 8/12/2013 9:18:02 PM | message detail
With how Sakurai has been handling Smash 4 so far, if Pokemon Trainer makes it back in I wouldn't be surprised if he looks even more like the classic Red artwork
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#179 | Kibago | Posted 8/12/2013 9:18:15 PM | message detail
ZFS posted...
Yeah, not getting the deal about Brawl pics. He looks the same, one is just artwork. Red's percentage is due to his super weak opponents more than anything. What is suggesting Brawl pics are bad?


I'm just assuming that basically anyone who would ever vote for Red is really voting for their R/B/Y (and possibly G/S/C) memories.

Pictures from a 3D, non-portable, non-nostalgic game are not going to help with that. Brawl Red makes me remember using the Pokemon Trainer in Brawl, not playing Pokemon. that's no way to get casual support.
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#180 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/12/2013 9:18:19 PM | message detail
While I agree Brawl pics hurt Red, this match doesn't prove anything.
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#181 | kinsho3 | Posted 8/12/2013 9:18:30 PM | message detail
TsunamiXXVIII posted...
kinsho3 posted...
Pokemon Trainer Red is getting about 87.5% on Sissel.

Crono only got around 80% on Missile.

Another nail in Crono's coffin....


Pikachu to 60-40 Crono and Magus combined?


http://www.mario64.nl/pokemon_puzzle_league2.jpg
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#182 | Rad Link 5 | Posted 8/12/2013 9:18:46 PM | message detail
TsunamiXXVIII posted...
Rad Link 5 posted...
Bee tee dubs, if you're around creativename, is there any chance you can have the poll updates on your site for the matches with altered final totals (such as Tifa's match) get one final update to reflect the actual final totals? I don't know how reasonable that request is without knowing how you've programmed those pages, but I tend to just look at your site when I want to quickly find the results of a previous match, and I sometimes forget when your site doesn't actually have the correct final numbers. So it'd be helpful to me, if no one else.


It does have the correct final numbers. It just doesn't have them in the right place, because it's sorted by vote totals instead of by time.

Oh, I see it now.

In that case I guess it'd be cool if it auto-sorted by time instead, but that seems like a less reasonable request, and more nitpicky, so don't mind me.
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#183 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/12/2013 9:19:37 PM | message detail
Brawl pics might not have any effect on Red, but I'd wager that they do. A character like Red is going to need to rely on nostalgic feelings, and a Brawl pic evokes absolutely zero of that to me.
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#184 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 8/12/2013 9:19:53 PM | message detail
And soon Cecil vs Pit will be upon us. I've been dreading this one.

Why couldn't it be a night match so I can just pick Cecil in peace
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#185 | ZFS | Posted 8/12/2013 9:20:00 PM | message detail
Yeah, I'm not really buying that it matters to any real degree here. Maybe a little, but Red is over 70% in this regardless of Brawl or RBY picture.
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#186 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 8/12/2013 9:21:06 PM | message detail
Mario > Red > Squall.

What a glorious day.
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#187 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/12/2013 9:21:40 PM | message detail
I don't think Brawl Red would be over 70% here. It's very close to being an entirely different character.
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#188 | Lopen | Posted 8/12/2013 9:22:27 PM | message detail
We get it KP you really hate Brawl
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#189 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 8/12/2013 9:22:49 PM | message detail
I still can't get over that third update. I mean, it came only four minutes after the previous one instead of five, and it's a lead of exactly 1000 votes. We have an exact amount of time it took to extend the lead to quadruple digits.

...Which is more than the number of votes Chester got all match. Only 16 minutes in and Red's leading by 1.08 Chesters.
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#190 | tgs2 | Posted 8/12/2013 9:23:14 PM | message detail
I legit think Red can still be stronger than this if round 3 is still the sprite round.
#191 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 8/12/2013 9:23:16 PM | message detail
ZFS posted...
Who is voting Red with the old pic but not the new one, though? It's not that big of a difference, not enough to radically change his strength.


Because they may think it's a different character or simply not recognize the picture as being Red from Pokemon RBY.
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#192 | Sorozone | Posted 8/12/2013 9:23:47 PM | message detail
#193 | Rad Link 5 | Posted 8/12/2013 9:25:01 PM | message detail | (edited)
ZFS posted...
Who is voting Red with the old pic but not the new one, though? It's not that big of a difference, not enough to radically change his strength.

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/(5)Pokemon_Trainer_Red_vs_(12)Revolver_Ocelot_2010
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/(5)Pokemon_Trainer_Red_vs_(13)Mega_Man_X_2010
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5213

It could just be that Sissel and Corvo are like sub-Chester or something, but I wouldn't pick Ocelot to break 70% here.

There could always be other reasons. But the picture thing makes logical sense even to me, and I'm like one of the biggest arguers against pictures being huge difference makers.
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#194 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/12/2013 9:24:27 PM | message detail
NO ONE HATES BRAWL MORE THAN ME AND ULTI

TELL EM ULTI
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#195 | jacko_vdz | Posted 8/12/2013 9:25:20 PM | message detail
It's not so much that Red's Brawl pics are "bad," it's that the majority of voters don't know that:

1. The official name of the MC in Red/Blue is Red
2. The Pokemon Trainer in Brawl is supposed to be Red (nowhere in Brawl does it say that he's Red from RBY, it even says he originated in FR/LG).

I've argued this for the longest time, and this result proves it unless you want to believe Red and Blue boosted like crazy for no reason between the 2010 contest and Rivals.

Give Red a Brawl pic next round and I don't think he underperforms that much. The majority of voters probably will remember who he is.
#196 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/12/2013 9:25:50 PM | message detail
I don't really see the big deal here! It might not mean anything, but it very well could mean something, and I don't like the risk. Our voters have abandoned/supported characters for weirder reasons.
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#197 | hylianknight3 | Posted 8/12/2013 9:26:08 PM | message detail
Yeah, Brawl Red sucks.
#198 | ZFS | Posted 8/12/2013 9:26:25 PM | message detail
So what are we suggesting here? Does he best MMX with a face pic of this artwork instead? Over 45%? What? This seems crazy over a pic that is near identical.
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#199 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 8/12/2013 9:27:04 PM | message detail
hylianknight3 posted...
Yeah, Brawl sucks.

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#200 | Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 8/12/2013 9:27:11 PM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
NO ONE HATES BRAWL MORE THAN ME AND ULTI

TELL EM ULTI


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