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SBAllen posted... The results of this battle are correct as you see them. After the semi-successful vote-stuffing for the Touhou characters, we implemented new stricter anti-bot code. It worked well and weeded out the sources the vote-stuffing came from. (so it's archived on Ngamer's site) ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*List of All Polls (a search bar is at the bottom)*~ http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://www.thengamer.com/ http://thengamer.com/xstats ~*GameFAQs Contests Hall of Fame*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/GameFAQs_Contests_Hall_of_Fame http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/GameFAQs_Contests_Match_Hall_of_Fame ~*Character Contest Histories*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the Match Pics*~ http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php ~*Leonhart4's Trend Charts*~ https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?hl=en&key=tOGmynfNIiNy5VukpEF-PdA&hl=en#gid=0 ~*Daily Vote Trends - An Explanation for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Daily_Vote_Trends ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Say What? Common Stats Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote. This is the best example of SFF we've ever seen. However take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make perfect sense. Extrapolated Standings - The mathematical "strength" of a contestant that's determined based on their performance relative to the rest of the field. This number is typically based on the contest entrant's loss, but adjustments are sometimes made. See above for a watered down explanation for how the stats are calculated. --- `.,ΈΈ,.΄―`.,ΈΈ,.΄―`.,ΈΈ,.~*ST*~.,ΈΈ,.΄―`.,ΈΈ,.΄―`.,ΈΈ,.΄ I wouldn't put it past myself to do such a thing. |
Was just about to make a topic with that same quote! --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
Seconds out, Ulti vs that guy, Round 600 Taking all bets! (It will happen at some point) --- The Artist Commonly Known as The Hardcore Kid |
You heard it in the last topic, folks. The odds are stacked against MissingNo. Which can mean only one thing. http://i.imgur.com/cMj3QIA.png http://i.imgur.com/57HJU24.jpg --- Ace Detective for Hire That Rad Link 5 is going to spend hours in GIMP this contest. |
So the match without stuffers would have ended up something like: Missingno - 45% Tidus - 35% Banjo - 20% Right? --- SuperNiceDog wags his tail better than your regular, standard dog. -If someone scares the hell out of you, then are you protected by God? |
SBAllen posted... --- We are living our lives Abound with so much information |
Rad Link 5 posted... You heard it in the last topic, folks. The odds are stacked against MissingNo. Which can mean only one thing. Lol if Missingno wins this next round you definitely need to post that first pic again |
Yeah, if you take what Bacon said at his word, the current results are legit. It's immediately underminded by the Indonesia vote in Geolocation (which does back up the 2:1 Tidus thing) which makes for a rather weird situation, but again, if you take Bacon's post literally then what we have is legit. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX |
What's wrong with Indonesia's votes? Link/Ganondorf lost to literally Arthas/Illidan there. The place just produces weird results compared to the rest of the world. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
Banjo
having less than 1% of the vote in Indonesia is... well, not really
feasible. I would assume the Geolocation stuff is pre-stuffing
screening, which also explains s*** like Ghana and Mongolia and the
Sudan and what have you. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
AxemRedRanger posted... What's wrong with Indonesia's votes? That it somehow pulled in hundreds of votes, which is ludicrous. |
Here's
a tip: Don't trust whatever bulls*** anybody says concerning cheating.
The only people who know what they're talking about are Bacon, Devin,
and Luster. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
But
if you take Indonesia at face value, as part of the final match
results, you basically have to conclude that votes need to be taken away
from Tidus - which obviously wouldn't change the match result but
raises questions nevertheless. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
screwed big boss screwed the Luigi train has arrived http://i.imgur.com/WkOr6lS.jpg http://i.minus.com/iRQ8ZRcsz7piB.jpg --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
mama mia --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
Karma Hunter posted... Banjo having less than 1% of the vote in Indonesia is... well, not really feasible. I would assume the Geolocation stuff is pre-stuffing screening, which also explains s*** like Ghana and Mongolia and the Sudan and what have you. That comment could be seen a bit... you know... not-very-PC... --- The Artist Commonly Known as The Hardcore Kid |
I'd
love for Africa to have more of a presence here, but most matches the
vast majority of Africa doesn't cast a single vote. So when a country
like the Congo pops up for one super close match - and that match only -
it's a red flag. Edit: While in Marisa's match (who got docked 2000 votes) for example, a good third of the African countries have cast votes instead of almost none of 'em. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Besides KH is black that means it's ok. --- ~War~ |
1. It's not ludicrous at all. You know what Indonesia's official language is? English. 2. It wouldn't really take all that many votes to produce those percentages. 92 votes for Tidus, 33 for Missingno., and 1 for Banjo. An awful performance by Banjo to be sure, getting only 1 out of every 126 votes (and I'm assuming that if it's not the product of stuffing, the total is either 126 or 252), but it's possible. Anyway, I came into this topic to LOL at myself for not checking my PMs. Turns out I received the same message that Luster did and I only just now noticed it. --- RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed. |
Updated Top 10 Top 10 Closest Matches 1. Missingno 40.58% vs. Tidus 40.50% - Round 1 0.08% 2. Lloyd Irving 23.62% vs. Big Daddy 23.45% - Round 1 0.17% 3. Alucard 36.32% vs. Captain Falcon 35.95% - Round 1 0.37% 4. Ike 35.81% vs. Proto Man 35.26% - Round 1 0.55% 5. Tharja 36.21% vs. Tiny Tina 35.35% - Round 1 0.86% 6. Guybrush Threepwood 18.06% vs. Max Payne 16.76% - Round 1 1.30% 7. Viewtiful Joe 25.65% vs. Handsome Jack 24.20% - Round 1 1.45% 8. Missile 19.26 vs. Sarah Kerrigan 17.74% - Round 1 1.52% 9. Captain Viridian 13.51% vs. Peacock 11.60% - Round 1 1.91% 10. Catherine 39.84% vs. Neku Sakuraba 37.87% - Round 1 1.97% 10. Tom Nook 29.82% vs. Pyramid Head 27.85% - Round 1 1.97% Top 10 Smallest Night Vote Gaps 1. Missingno 11567 vs. Tidus 11544 Round 1 23 2. Lloyd Irving 6223 vs. Big Daddy 6177 Round 1 46 3. Alucard 10242 vs. Captain Falcon 10139 Round 1 103 4. Tharja 11016 vs. Tiny Tina 10753 Round 1 263 5. Captain Viridian 3128 vs. Peacock 2685 Round 1 443 6. Tom Nook 7496 vs. Pyramid Head 7000 Round 1 496 7. Nathan Drake 9667 vs. Pac-Man 8974 Round 1 693 8. Isaac 4443 vs. Tingle 3463 Round 1 980 9. Crash Bandicoot 11242 vs. Wheatley 9702 Round 1 1540 10. Cole 5783 vs. Ragna the Bloodedge 4240 Round 1 1543 Top 10 Most Popular Night Polls 1. Draven vs. Jak vs. Chie Satonaka Round 1 39737 2. Yoshi vs. Solaire of Astora vs. Demi-Fiend Round 1 30487 3. Tharja vs. Tiny Tina vs. Juliet Starling Round 1 30420 4. Link vs. Isaac vs. Tingle Round 1 28930 5. Missingno vs. Tidus vs. Banjo Round 1 28503 6. Alucard vs. Captain Falcon vs. Rydia Round 1 28202 7. Sephiroth vs. Midna vs. Little Mac Round 1 28199 8. Tifa Lockheart vs. Chun-Li vs. Cirno Round 1 28140 9. Mega Man X vs. Jigglypuff vs. Welkin Gunther Round 1 27860 10. Sub-Zero vs. Garrus Vakarian vs. Frank West Round 1 27770 Top 10 Least Impressive Night Winners 1. Nathan Drake Round 1 9667 2. Yoshimitsu Round 1 9815 3. Elizabeth Round 1 10217 4. Alucard Round 1 10242 5. Dragonborn Round 1 10638 6. Tharja Round 1 11016 7. Crash Bandicoot Round 1 11242 8. Missingno Round 1 11567 9. Knuckles the Echidna Round 1 11590 10. Auron Round 1 11625 Top 10 Most Impressive Night Losers 1. Jak Round 1 13191 2. Tidus Round 1 11544 3. Garrus Vakarian Round 1 11143 4. Tiny Tina Round 1 10753 5. Chie Satonaka Round 1 10465 6. Captain Falcon Round 1 10139 7. Wheatley Round 1 9702 8. Marth Round 1 9699 9. Scorpion Round 1 9179 10. Pac-Man Round 1 8974 --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 55/68 Today's Picks: Missingno and Wario |
TsunamiXXVIII posted... 1. It's not ludicrous at all. You know what Indonesia's official language is? English. That poor of a performance by Banjo, who got roughly 19% of the vote worldwide, is tough to swallow. It's not impossible, it's just very unlikely. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
So the results page is the true results with all the votes removed? --- http://myanimelist.net/animelist/swordz9 |
Marisa's
and Cirno's both, but in the latter, they weren't all for Cirno.
Zambia's only two appearances of the contest were to vote for Tifa and to vote for Marisa. --- RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed. |
No votes got removed. The cheated votes discussed in the OP were pre-screened. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Oh, Missingno is totally screwed against Squall. Good thing I only had it advancing one round. --- http://myanimelist.net/animelist/swordz9 |
Out of the 10 closest matches,5 were for the 1st position.Nice. --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
Even Link sucks in Indonesia and Asia in general. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3509 If Ocarina of Time, to say nothing of all the other Zelda games, does nothing for people there, why do you think Banjo-Kazooie is going to do it for them? And Banjo barely did any better in the Phillipines. Hell, Banjo always sucks in Indonesia. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4529 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3780 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3462 (Almost fell below 1% there!) http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4123 (pretty good compared to everything else! Banjo-Tooie at 10%!? Clearly he was stuffed there!) http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3261 (even lower than in this match!) Why exactly is this unbelievable? --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
nvm; stupid long post times on the mobile. --- RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed. |
AxemRedRanger posted... Even Link sucks in Indonesia and Asia in general. It's difficult to swallow as a stand-alone piece of evidence because the voter preferences being so uniform - you expect a half-decent amount of the userbase will simply vote at random which will make percentages like that all but impossible. But taken alongside the rest of those matches you've presented there's a lot of corroborating evidence, so much so that the initial conclusion seems untenable. I admit I am very likely in error and that it seems very probable now that Banjo is just unbelievably unpopular there. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
Pretty
sure the number of votes that came from Indonesia in that match is
highly disproportionate to other matches, but I didn't actually do
research on that, so don't take it at face value. Either way, it doesn't really matter because stripping Tidus's Indonesian votes away doesn't make MissingNo. look any more prepared to take down Squall. --- Ace Detective for Hire |
Rad Link 5 posted... Pretty sure the number of votes that came from Indonesia in that match is highly disproportionate to other matches, but I didn't actually do research on that, so don't take it at face value. It wouldn't matter even if it had a disproportionate impact because we have a comparable sample size both times. I think I have to concede just flat-out wrongness on this, from examining this Indonesia Banjo makes Chester look like Link. Edit: And by 'look like Link', I mean using stats Chester is expected to get 76.74% on Indonesia Banjo. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
The
point about Indonesia supposedly proving Tidus's stuffing wasn't
Banjo's horribleness there, though. It was the high minimum vote total
the set of percentages there resulted in. --- Ace Detective for Hire http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/6771/pacanat.jpg |
That's suggestive, but not nearly as conclusive. --- http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif Proud to share the same sig as Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) |
I just checked everywhere and I don't think there's been a single Creeper rally. The one time I bank on one happening... --- ~http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/229-music-top-40/62258145~ http://i.imgur.com/FAsBe5D.gif |
Of
course it's disproportionate. The match was so heavily rallied it got a
big chunk more votes than usual. It was a close match involving a
popular joke character and the protagonist to one of the more-popular
Final Fantasy games. Of course some countries are going to have more
voters than usual, since the entire point of rallies is to bring in
voters who'd never otherwise vote in a match. And these extra votes are
going to come from a lot of various countries during night matches. People are just forgoing common sense and resorting to conspiracy theories because the character they wanted to win lost. Or maybe ghosts did it. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
You're
right. People are forging conspiracy theories about Tidus
overperforming due to unremoved stuffed votes because they wanted him to
win. --- Ace Detective for Hire Link, for example, is a classic beta male. -UltimaterializerX |
AxemRedRanger posted... Even Link sucks in Indonesia and Asia in general. Wow. Those maps are glorious. Although that last one is pretty lulzy in its own right--Nero's so close to Mega Man! Dang, though...so many countries with votes there that have yet to vote even once in this contest. These votals really are awful. (Going just on what I can see on the map itself, without going into source code, poll 3261 brought in Ethiopia, Eritrea, Fiji, and the Falkland Islands; 3462 had Liberia and the aforementioned Fiji; 3780 had Niger; 4123 had Mauritania, Malawi, and Fiji yet again; and 4529...okay, by that point we had already reached the awfulness of today's, but then again, Rivalry Rumble.) --- RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed. |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5161 There we go. Night match with a Final Fantasy character dominating in Indonesia. Percentages work with a minimum 223 votes and a 194-15-14 split. Based on that, I'd guess this match was more likely to be 252 votes than 126. Unless we think people are stuffing for FFVII characters now in matches they can't possibly lose. Because they've looked so good against fodder lately. Combined with the Legend of Indonesian Banjo and I see no remaining issues. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
Squirrelgate posted... I just checked everywhere and I don't think there's been a single Creeper rally. The one time I bank on one happening... Here's a pro-tip, never bank on rallies. If you don't think a character can win a match on his/her merits, 9 times out of 10, its not a good idea to take them. --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? However, the Guru of the next decade so far is SuperNiceDog |
Yup, that looks pretty solid. Good work. --- Ace Detective for Hire |
Rad Link 5 posted... The point about Indonesia supposedly proving Tidus's stuffing wasn't Banjo's horribleness there, though. It was the high minimum vote total the set of percentages there resulted in. Except that's not really that high compared to what we know Indonesia's capable of. It's 126. Lemme go back through the last few matches and see what the minimums were. Amaterasu vs. Vyse vs. Adol Christin Amaterasu 64.84% Vyse 10.16% Adol Christin 25% That'll be Amaterasu 83, Vyse 13, Adol 32, for a total of 128. Squall Leonhart vs. Rayman vs. Commander Video Squall 88.33% Rayman 8.95% Video 2.72% It takes a hell of a lot of votes to get 2.72, because it's both just a little bit above 1/37 (.027 repeating) and just a little under 3/110 (3/11 is .27 repeating, so slide a leading 0 in front of that--.0272727272727...) I know what you're thinking, but 3/110 would round to 2.73%. So right there we need something we can wedge between 3/110 and 3/111=1/37. Let's not go to 6/221 right away (it doesn't work anyway)... 4/147 works. But can it work with the others? ...No it can't. 5/184, but that won't work...7/257? Yeah, there we go. Squall 227, Rayman 23, Video 7, total of 257. Our last two minimums were 252/2 and 256/2, and now we've got 257. Shall we keep going? Ganondorf vs. Guybrush Threepwood vs. Max Payne Ganondorf 29.41% Guybrush 18.82% Max 51.76% Ganondorf 25, Guybrush 16, Max 44 = 85. Small, but wouldn't you know it, 85 * 3 = 255, right in line with the other three. Dare we look at the stuffed match? Vivi 53.6% Adam 14% Marisa 32.4% So troll with those nice round numbers? Hardly; it's tough to get close enough to round off to a round number without being on one. Try this on for size: Vivi 134, Adam 35, Marisa 81--total of 250. Mario 82.61% Duke Nukem 13.91% Fawful 3.48% Mario 95, Duke 16, Fawful 4, total of 115. Comes up kind of low when you bring it into range of the others, but I'm not about to multiply high enough for the 115 and the 126 to be multiplied by different numbers so I'm just blaming this on it being a boring match. Tifa Lockhart vs. Cirno vs. Chun-Li Tifa: 63.9% Cirno 28.65% Chun-Li 7.45% First thing that works for Chun-Li's is 7/94, but that won't work with the other two, and most of the early multiples of 7/multiples of 94 are out as well because the two closest to 28.65% were 27.66% and 28.72%--definitely a long way away from finding one that can cut that close below the latter. Next we have 12/161...that won't do it either. 19/255 (should it really be a surprise that (7+12)/(94+161) is also close to that percentage?)...No, and there's a 28.63% on the /255 line so that makes it unlikely that Chun-Li's vote total is a multiple of 19 either. Wait, we're already into the 250s and haven't found it yet? 24/322 doesn't work either, though the spacing's fairly even so multiples of 12 are still worth checking, so next is...26/349. Of course it is. And it works. Tifa 223, Cirno 100, Chun-Li 26, total 349. That's higher than usual, but then again, that's a match where we know there was stuffing. (It does, however, line up well with Mario/Duke/Fawful--115 * 3 = 345). I'd like one more normal match, though... Master Chief vs. Yuna vs. Claire Redfield Master Chief 18.18% Yuna 57.34% Claire 24.48% That's... Chief 26, Yuna 82, Claire 35, total of 143. That's not normal at all! If you assume that the numbers in the 250s are about right, this match gets like 286. And I doubt that we need to multiply this one by 5 and everything in the 250s by 3--that's just too much. Still...looks like Indonesia votes quite a bit. --- RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed. |
TsunamiXXVIII posted... nvm; stupid long post times on the mobile. GAMEFAQS on a mobile.. never again! --- The Artist Commonly Known as The Hardcore Kid |
I sincerely hope the reason that post come an hour after Axem's wasn't because you were typing that one up on your mobile, too. That is a lot of typing to do on a little keyboard. --- Ace Detective for Hire http://i.imgur.com/JFhmfuV.gif |
Indonesia (lowest possible vote totals for each match): #1: Link/Isaac/Tingle: 198 votes #2: Raiden/Waluigi/Alan Wake: 44 votes #3: Yoshi/Solaire/Demi-Fiend: 233 votes #4: Shepard/Olimar/Kain: 97 votes #5: Tharja/Juliet Starling/Tiny Tina: 228 votes #6: Hero/Rinoa/Aeris: 138 votes #7: Draven/Chie/Jak: 293 votes #8: Yuri/Ryu/Face McShooty: 140 votes #9: X/Welkin Gunther/Jigglypuff: 279 votes #10: Sonic/Fei Fong Wong/Dan: 125 votes #11: Lucina/Dracula/Caim: 171 votes #12: Layton/Barret/Reimu: 141 votes #13: Phoenix/Marth/Nightmare: 238 votes #14: KOS-MOS/Dunban/Vincent: 137 votes #15: Chester/Mewtwo/Zero: 105 votes And so on. Note that these are minimum possible totals, extrapolated from the percentages on the map. This means that more votes could have been cast, and in the case of #2 and #4 almost certainly were, but the actual votals cannot be lower than these numbers. The minimum possible votal of 126 votes in the disputed match (and more likely possibility of 252 votes) does not therefore indicate cheating by itself. --- 'We will see a similar beam of particles coming out of the soil on the other side of the planet. Then we will know there is a little quasar inside the planet. |
Conclusion:
Stop pretending you know s*** about so-and-so country having fishy
votals, unless you're one of the above people who's willing to actually
do the research. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
Wario
wins easily, while KOAC gets a little bit closer to Creeper than I
expected. I don't think Wario looks like he has any strength here or
anything - Tidus tripled KOAC when he was somewhat relevant. Round 1, Match 70 (4) Pokemon Trainer Red (15) Corvo Attano (24) Sissel Red wins easily. If he's stronger now that he has RBY pics he should be able to really blow these weaklings away, but even if he's still more or less even with Ocelot he'd hit the high 50s without much trouble. I think Corvo has the battle for second place. He might be a recent western character, but he's an assassin by design as well as nature, and those types are a lot more appealing than McDudes. Dishonored's also a game that people actually like and talk about in such terms that people like me (who don't play games outside of their bubble often) were wont to try it out, so he should have a fanbase. Sissel doesn't have DogFAQs going for him like Missile did, and so probably won't be getting rallied. He's also likely disadvantaged by the presence of one of the strongest handheld characters in the bracket in his match. He could still win, but Corvo would have to be near Caim-level for it to happen, which I don't see being the case. Bracket: Pokemon Trainer Red Expert: Red > Corvo > Sissel Oracle: Pokemon Trainer Red - 68%; Corvo Attano - 19.5%; Sissel - 12.5% --- We are living our lives Abound with so much information |
dat Creeper gain --- Wii Fit Trainer MASTER RACE |
It's
amazing. We all thought Touhou was too niche and unknown to bring
anything to the table in these contests, but it turns out they were
quite influential in one of the closest matches of all time. --- Agent Triple Zero at your service! The artist formerly known as greatone10. |
Tidus:
And I would have got away with it too, if it wasn't for the new
anti-stuffing measures brought in because of those Touhou girls. --- We are living our lives Abound with so much information |
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