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I still can't believe people literally voted Squall over Auron --- Die young and save yourself. Brace for the G's, and fast heel-toe work. |
Karma Hunter posted... Yeah Tidus would easily throttle DK, Magus, and Chief. You guys are forgetting how even WORSE those last three are in the wake of this loss. For a second I wanted to argue DK could make it close mano a mano, then I remembered Vivi throttled him and regained my senses. Here's a fun one though: Tidus/Shadow/Riku/Mewtwo. Who ya got? |
Not in AMERICA ;-; --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
ExThaNemesis posted... I still can't believe people literally voted Squall over Auron Superior character winz, best result. |
Karma Hunter posted... KanzarisKelshen posted...Holy - Squall's just untouchable in Europe. That's like 40+ on Base Link if you just go by the night vote. Crazy stuff! Oh right. Darn! Unless Red turns out to be a hidden BEAST with RBY pics and holds Mario down harder than the entire Mario lineup combined, Squall can't do it then. Pity that! |
KanzarisKelshen posted... Karma Hunter posted...Yeah Tidus would easily throttle DK, Magus, and Chief. You guys are forgetting how even WORSE those last three are in the wake of this loss. Shadow's fallen off a cliff. Riku has only been getting worse. Mewtwo needs to prove himself. Tidus is Tidus. Mewtwo prohibitively. If he flops, Tidus in a 24 hour match. Tidus in a night match. Riku in a day match. --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
Throw Guybrush in there and I think he'd win that match. e: I meant the Tidus/MC/DK/Magus clustersuck. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
KanzarisKelshen posted... Karma Hunter posted...KanzarisKelshen posted...Holy - Squall's just untouchable in Europe. That's like 40+ on Base Link if you just go by the night vote. Crazy stuff! Doesn't need to be that bad. Zelda nearly cost Mario a match against Mega Man X, and that's when you consider he was SFFing MMX too (it just wasn't enough to overcome the Zelda fanbase split). Red being Zelda tier gives Squall a shot. --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
Also
an update on the list of R1 losers with the most prolific contest
history (not sure if "prolific" is the right word to use though),
measured in number of contest matches (with win-loss record in
parentheses afterwards): Master Chief - 19 (11-8) Tidus - 14 (5-9) Ryu Hayabusa - 12 (5-7) Scorpion - 12 (6-6) Pac-Man - 11 (4-7) Fox - 11 (5-6) Duke Nukem - 11 (4-7) KOS-MOS - 10 (3-7) CATS - 9 (0-9) Tommy Vercetti - 9 (4-5) Revolver Ocelot - 9 (3-6) Captain Falcon - 8 (3-5) Tails - 8 (1-7) Lol Chief is the only one with a winning record, and even then ONLY because of 2007 (in which case his record would be 7-7, and he'd STILL be #1, albeit tied with Tidus). I'm assuming we'd all pick Pac-Man > Duke without a second thought? I just find it kinda odd that their win-loss records are exactly the same. Also in case you guys are curious, both Vyse and Guybrush have each been in six contest matches. --- Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC |
That zopharfaqs guy claims in his blog that he is responsible for the failed stuffing attempt for Tidus. --- POKEFEAR |
George Romero where are you? --- Dr voltchball - best in the world. |
Karma Hunter posted... KanzarisKelshen posted...Karma Hunter posted...KanzarisKelshen posted...Holy - Squall's just untouchable in Europe. That's like 40+ on Base Link if you just go by the night vote. Crazy stuff! I think it does. Zelda has a special quality to it that makes it really not fold, because it's the absolute top of the top of the top of the Nintendo Totem Pole. Let's take a moment to remember Midna dragging Mewtwo down to her level so bad she could've won with just a few more votes. RBY is resilient, but not THAT resilient. ...I think, at least. |
voltch posted... George Romero where are you? Revving up the engines for Draven's match obv, did no one tell you? (Incidentally, gonna use this nice boring match to get the planning train for that started. I hope Draven can put on a great show come match time) |
Squall has no chance, as Mario has both Nintendo SFF and color red SFF. I mean, who would vote for Red when Mario is more red? --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
Mordekaiser is basically Cirno from what I can gather. --- Dr voltchball - best in the world. |
Heck,
Mario/Squall/Red might be a deceptively much worse setup for Mario than
Mario/MMX/Zelda. Zelda still got noticeably SFFed by the big man. Red,
being Pokemon, might not fold at ALL, in which case Mario would look
stupendously awful. Then factor in the fact that Mario can't SFF Squall,
unlike Mega Man X, who he barely beat... ...I still won't take it. But food for thought. --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
xp1337 posted... Safer_777 posted...So 2nd closest match ever right? Second closest "advancement" match; fourth-closest overall. Alucard/Liquid (3 votes) was for first place in a fourway so both of them advanced anyway and Trainers/Cloudiroth (10 votes) was a hastily-added bronze medal match. Those two and Frog/Chief (7 votes) are the only three that were closer. --- RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed. |
KanzarisKelshen posted... voltch posted...George Romero where are you? *shuts down rally attempt* |
Man, Brawl pictures must be horrible if they were holding back Red from Zelda-level to Ocelot-level. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
tennisboy213 posted... That zopharfaqs guy claims in his blog that he is responsible for the failed stuffing attempt for Tidus. He also claims he'll show "proof", but based on what he said about this match, it looks like we'll never get a chance to see that proof because Allen's new measures are supposedly going to keep the "obvious stuffed votes" from ever being counted in the first place. And judging by the fact that we never saw any character's vote totals decrease, I'm willing to at least believe the interpretation that the "new security measures" are designed to stop the falsified votes from ever showing up on the poll in the first place. --- RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed. |
I'd vote for Red over Mario any day of the week unless it's Brawl Red maybe since that joker isn't the same Red to me. --- http://myanimelist.net/animelist/swordz9 |
voltch posted... Mordekaiser is basically Cirno from what I can gather. Nnnnnnnot really. I think. I'm the biggest Mordekaiser guy you can find, but Cirno is bsaically the first of the second line Touhous (behind Reimu, Marisa, and perhaps Youmu and Alice). Mordekaiser is probably third-tier among the LoL fanbase because scrubs HATE him, though his fans are pretty wild. If I have to delineate character tiers for LoL it's probably like this... Face of the game tier: Ashe, Ryze, Katarina, Garen, Master Yi (Annie would go here if she had any strength at all but something tells me she wouldn't) Most popular tier: Sona, Jax, Shen (possibly the strongest LoL character before rallies), Graves, Ezreal Strong Fanbases tier: Mordekaiser, Anivia, Wukong (dat china vote would be beyond the pale), Lee Sin, Draven Most other guys aren't even worth mentioning. |
tennisboy213 posted... That zopharfaqs guy claims in his blog that he is responsible for the failed stuffing attempt for Tidus. Probably an attention whore. --- "Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
Karma Hunter posted... And we've got a new champion for closest non 1v1 Wire-to-Wire matches, don't we? You might have a point there, but when exactly do you start counting the percentage gap? --- RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed. |
swordz9 posted... I'd vote for Red over Mario any day of the week unless it's Brawl Red maybe since that joker isn't the same Red to me. You may be unique in this. Red could be noticeably stronger with an RBY picture instead of a Brawl picture, but his Brawl baseline still may be very similar to Zelda's. Assuming Red's worth a good 52% or so on Ocelot in a 24 hour match and using Auron/Ocelot from this year, even accounting for some fanbase splitting from Roxas, Red's proportion to Ocelot makes him worth a comparable score on Auron as Zelda. Not quite at Zelda's level, but if Red can resist SFF he'd definitely be worth more than an SFFed Zelda. This also would mean that Mega Man X is a bit stronger than Mega Man. It also would mean Captain John Price is surprisingly strong (at least in 2010), something that tempers this theory quite a bit. --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
I still think whoever vote-stuffed Tidus was one or several Board 8ers. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
votestuffer
cirno guy is one of Luster's many, many, many alts. He uses Luster's
SkyNet poll allocation software to spread his stuffed votes into many
empty IP addresses --- F*** BT |
Morde es numero uno and Cirno is the strongest are the same thing. --- Dr voltchball - best in the world. |
KanzarisKelshen posted... voltch posted...George Romero where are you? You need a plan to post a topic on the LoL subreddit that will get 1000 votes max? Also, why are you bothering to post about it in this topic? Are you expecting people to comment on how "edgy" and "cool" you are? Typical LoL fanboy. Can't wait until my boyz X and Ryu roflstomp the latest broken hero that further proves Riot couldn't balance their way out of a paper bag. --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? However, the Guru of the next decade so far is SuperNiceDog |
Red
is Red. His Brawl and R/B/Y models look exactly the same. It's not like
people don't recognize the Brawl model and say "who is that guy and
where is my waifu Red" --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? However, the Guru of the next decade so far is SuperNiceDog |
tennisboy213 posted... That zopharfaqs guy claims in his blog that he is responsible for the failed stuffing attempt for Tidus. If he can't use it anymore I hope he reveals what he's doing. It's strange how the poll (supposedly) goes unstuffed for 8 years straight and then some touhou guy comes along and does it in back to back days. Thats if he is the touhou stuffer and not someone from this thread trying to take credit for everything. --- Smurf, the cream of Sonic Fanboyism. |
Not_Wylvane posted... Throw Guybrush in there and I think he'd win that match. Clustersuck, I like that - I'll be sure to steal that from you in the future! :) --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Oh,
right, that theory also means that Ocelot had a particularly big boost
from being the primary villain of Metal Gear Solid 4 that came from the
majority of the game's copies being sold and people actually playing the
game rather than hype/early release stuff that probably mattered more
for Solid/Big Boss/Liquid, which also accounts for Liquid's fall off in
the next contest. Ocelot's boost came in 2010 by this metric and was
covered by Link/Mega Man X SFF. Edit: Also - if you haven't figured it out - this isn't very likely. --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
ExThaNemesis posted... FranzyvonKarma posted...I told you guys ExTha is a Missingno spy, he's gonna show him true colors next round! I hear you need a jinx --- Not changing this sig until the Bengals, Bills, 49ers and Lions win the Super Bowl (10/10/10) Professional UotY Mentor to Leo3Leo, McFlubbin and Jeff Zero |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... You need a plan to post a topic on the LoL subreddit that will get 1000 votes max? Also, why are you bothering to post about it in this topic? Are you expecting people to comment on how "edgy" and "cool" you are? Well you could phrase it a bit nicer (which applies to most things you say, even the accurate ones), but yeah if that guy seriously guy Draven is going to do anything but get blasted and clowned he's in for a world of disappointment. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
They
actually aren't the same design technically since Red's Brawl design is
the remake Red design from Fire Red/Leaf Green and not the RBY Gen 1
design. I still don't think of them as the same though just like I don't
think of Red and Ash as the same. People obviously seem to care about
design for this contest too which explains why some characters do awful
in certain rounds like Snake doing bad in sprite rounds or whatever. --- http://myanimelist.net/animelist/swordz9 |
I
can't wait for the beginning of the Ryu/X/Draven match. Draven's going
to look f***ing horrible, probably so much so that nobody will even
bother voting for him. Hell, maybe the rallies for Draven will just funnel more votes for Ryu and X, especially if the latter two have a close match. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
Karma Hunter posted... Putting it another way, look at L Block 2008. Its so called 'loyal static fanbase' gave it 31.81% in Round 1. Then 27.74% in Round 2. Finally, 24.4% in Round 3. http://i.imgur.com/cMj3QIA.png I regret the work that went into this. --- Ace Detective for Hire http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/5783/3989110m.png |
swordz9 posted... They actually aren't the same design technically since Red's Brawl design is the remake Red design from Fire Red/Leaf Green and not the RBY Gen 1 design. I still don't think of them as the same though just like I don't think of Red and Ash as the same. People obviously seem to care about design for this contest too which explains why some characters do awful in certain rounds like Snake doing bad in sprite rounds or whatever. This is a possibility, but it's hardly comparable - it would be more appropriate to compare it to DMC2 Dante (which is a minor effect, if any) instead of Sprite Snake (who instead of possibly the #2 character in the contest becomes a high midcarder). Many wildly different character designs don't seem to have any effect at all - compare Solid Snake pictures with Old Snake pictures. --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
Glitch Above Whatever --- ~War~ |
Two cringes in 24 hours, I think we have a new record --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
I
figured there would be a better comparison. Anyways I'm not saying
people will refuse to vote for Brawl Red or anything, but RBY Red pics
will definitely trigger a lot more nostalgia imo. --- http://myanimelist.net/animelist/swordz9 |
Rad Link 5 posted... Karma Hunter posted...Putting it another way, look at L Block 2008. Its so called 'loyal static fanbase' gave it 31.81% in Round 1. Then 27.74% in Round 2. Finally, 24.4% in Round 3. I'm done. --- Die young and save yourself. Brace for the G's, and fast heel-toe work. |
FranzyvonKarma posted... shut up people Think about this: Lenneth Valkyrie is going to receive BRACKET VOTES --- Ace Detective for Hire http://i.imgur.com/LC5PEHK.gif |
Hey, nothing you can say. Nothing's gonna change wh65asjdf5$%^$41 --- ~War~ |
Rad Link 5 posted... FranzyvonKarma posted...shut up people Lenneth's only other appearance was in 2006, right? --- "Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
FranzyvonKarma posted... Hey, nothing you can say. i love you guys --- Die young and save yourself. Brace for the G's, and fast heel-toe work. |
The
only thing I regret about that image is the admission that I can't read
"the odds are stacked against" someone who is still probably going to
make people miserable by winning anyway without thinking of that. --- Ace Detective for Hire http://i.imgur.com/mftoX0t.gif |
missingno chance, that's what you've got --- ~War~ |
RBY
Picture Red could actually have a very high ceiling, which is why I'm
very interested to see him this year. I don't really buy Blue > Red. If you assume these things... Auron 2013 = 48% on Auron 2010 (Roxas Split Adjustment) Red 2013 = 52% on Ocelot 2010 (24 Hour Adjustment) Ocelot 2010 = Ocelot 2013 RBY Red = 55% on Brawl Red (this would be ridiculously huge, but for discussion's sake) RBY Red is worth 46.67% on Auron, about the tier of Sora and Kirby. --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
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