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The
fact that he comes up with some idiotic story to explain how Draven was
so much higher in scale than the others just screams liar seeking
attention. And whatever Draven benefited from, it lasted all the way up until the very last moments of the match. It didn't stop --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
If
Draven was a rally it'll happen again, if it was stuffing he'll look
Teemo next round. It'll be pretty easy to tell if he's making that up or
not. --- Smurf, the cream of Sonic Fanboyism. |
--Smurf-- posted... If Draven was a rally it'll happen again, if it was stuffing he'll look Teemo next round. It'll be pretty easy to tell if he's making that up or not. if it's a combination....? |
I
don't buy anything he's saying. It's someone trolling the stats topic
by reading it and then confirming just about all of our potential
theories, crazy or relevant. He basically just claimed to have stuffed
every match with any sort of rally in it. I don't buy it for a second. |
I'm not convinced -- just because some guy made a blog after the rallying and cheating has already occurred doesn't
mean he's responsible for any cheating. Notice this tell-all doesn't
tell this other super-secret way to cheat, for example, or a clear
indication of when he would cheat again. Possible? Maybe, but he doesn't seem trustworthy and I don't get why he cares to admit anything. This is about as credible as Albion. --- T H E S T A B L E - bring on Epona! http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg |
What
puzzles me about the guy is that it seems like he thinks he's the only
votestuffer in the site. For example, when he talks about Guybrush or
Marisa, he says he had nothing to do with it, and concludes the votes
were legit. Get off your high horse, man! --- .-#Elements of Water#-. |
He
said on his blog that he tried running his vote stuffing script to help
out Marisa, but it wasn't enough to catch Adam Jensen. So he was
involved with Marisa, although claims to have done nothing for Guybrush. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
I
just don't see much stuffing in that Draven match. He won by enough
anyway where stuffing would be pointless. The voting trends seem to
indicate that Draven won because of rally-induced popularity, not
cheating. --- Hey I just met you, and this is crazy, but you have died of dysentery. |
-LusterSoldier- posted... He said on his blog that he tried running his vote stuffing script to help out Marisa, but it wasn't enough to catch Adam Jensen. So he was involved with Marisa, although claims to have done nothing for Guybrush. Whatever the case may be, it still doesn't mean that just because he didn't do it, there was no votestuffing involved. It's just silly. --- .-#Elements of Water#-. |
dethfdddddh posted... SonicRaptor posted...The only way Snake can beat Samus is if Nintendo flat-out forgets to make Metroid sequels or releases a couple more Other M-level disasters to sour her on the current gaming generation. I said that with MGS5 in mind. --- In Oz; cruel is the usual punishment. |
HaRRicH posted... I'm not convinced -- just because some guy made a blog after the rallying and cheating has already occurred doesn't mean he's responsible for any cheating. Notice this tell-all doesn't tell this other super-secret way to cheat, for example, or a clear indication of when he would cheat again. On his blog, he included this message: There is another element to the script required to bypass GameFAQs filters which I don’t wish to reveal. If he had revealed that information, I wouldn't be able to post the link to his blog as he would be giving away too much information on how to vote stuff. And as you guys know, talking about vote stuffing techniques is against the ToU. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
"I'll tell you what matches I plan to do next after they happen!" (I don't want to look stupid if I say I'm going to cheat in a match but it turns out no one cheats in that match) --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
This
is just a part of me expressing itself: but if you have evidence that
someone is vote-stuffing shouldn't that warrant a ticket sent to an
admin? --- In Oz; cruel is the usual punishment. |
-LusterSoldier- posted... HaRRicH posted...I'm not convinced -- just because some guy made a blog after the rallying and cheating has already occurred doesn't mean he's responsible for any cheating. Notice this tell-all doesn't tell this other super-secret way to cheat, for example, or a clear indication of when he would cheat again. Is Allen aware of this guy? --- Hey, its that SuperNiceDog! Congrats to the Guru 2011 winner |
Then00bAvenger posted... "I'll tell you what matches I plan to do next after they happen!" Yep. This is a pretty solid point. --- http://i.imgur.com/32RNLnc.gif |
BK_Sheikah00 posted... -LusterSoldier- posted...HaRRicH posted...I'm not convinced -- just because some guy made a blog after the rallying and cheating has already occurred doesn't mean he's responsible for any cheating. Notice this tell-all doesn't tell this other super-secret way to cheat, for example, or a clear indication of when he would cheat again. OK, it's not just me, if you have evidence Luster of someone vote-stuffing I would send a feedback ticket which is not against the ToU. --- In Oz; cruel is the usual punishment. |
Then00bAvenger posted... "I'll tell you what matches I plan to do next after they happen!" Yeah there's no real information there that couldn't have been said by anyone who pays attention to the contest. --- Smurf, the cream of Sonic Fanboyism. |
you guys aren't doing it right every match ever has actually been the result of a computer generating vote totals for each update, that's why Link always wins *tinfoil hat* |
charmander6000 posted... Take a look at Squall he would have been a noble nine buster had he not gone up to Snake in 2002, what's worse Snake keeps coming back to make sure Squall never gets a second wind. Squall the only man Snake can't keep down Squall also the only Square character Knuckles can't kill The true Hero of Time --- http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/9919/leonhart.png |
HaRRicH posted... Possible? Maybe, but he doesn't seem trustworthy and I don't get why he cares to admit anything. This is about as credible as Albion. Wouldn't surprise me if it was Albion tbqh --- http://i.imgur.com/kCpvD.gif |
LeonhartFour posted... HaRRicH posted...Possible? Maybe, but he doesn't seem trustworthy and I don't get why he cares to admit anything. This is about as credible as Albion. who's Albion |
Just checked. The "cirnofan" account was literally created today. I guess it's possible this guy somehow found out about all this topic and our discussion, and he created an account for the explicit purpose of conferring with Luster. Or he's just some dude trying to pull a prank. --- http://www.gifsoup.com/view/593815/frasier-and-niles-dance-o.gif |
He's
not worth taking seriously. If he can't tell us who he's stuffing for
in advance (very obvious stuffing for a worthless character in a match
they can't possibly win would work if he doesn't want to ruin any
"surprises" later) then there's no real reason to believe him. At the
moment I don't even see much reason to believe this is the guy that
stuffed for Touhou. His claims are good for laughs and not much else. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
hmm AxemREDRanger I'm on to your Red stuffing....! :P |
Match LXIX: (8) Missingno vs. (11) Tidus vs. (20) Banjo Previous Contest Missingno – 2010 50.29% against Crono 51.51% against Yoshi 47.12% against Sephiroth Tidus – 2010 46.14% against Sub-Zero Banjo – 2010 24.91% against Pikachu Analysis One of these days Banjo will be given a non-Nintendo opponent and hopefully he will look a little bit better. He will still be a weak character, but at least he will get a chance to show his real strength, but as the years pass by he is only going to get weaker unless Rare steps up and gives us a true Banjo-Kazooie game. Missingno is a bit of a wild card, like all joke entrants he will lose some strength due to the joke becoming stale, but I feel he has a lot of natural strength. The performance in the vote-ins and winning against Crono cold turkey when most jokes need a few rounds of weaker opponents before they can accomplish that suggests natural strength. It is hard to imagine that Missingno is up there with the strongest Pokemon characters, but I guess that is where the joke votes come in. Tidus has been rather unlucky in his contest career. Despite a few first round loses over the years he is not a weak character, he has just been unfortunate to be placed up against a stronger character. Should Missingno’s joke support disappear I would give Tidus a good chance at pulling the upset. However even without joke votes I feel Missingno has enough natural strength to prevent losing the match. I feel Missingno will underperform to the expectations of the board. I do not see him being a near-elite like he showed in 2010. The format being three-way could help Missingno look better, but overall the joke losing steam will hurt more than the format will help. charmander6000’s Bracket: Missingno > Tidus and Banjo charmander6000’s Prediction: Missingno – 48.48%, Tidus – 36.93%, Banjo – 14.59% --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 53/66 Today's Picks: Squall and Amaterasu |
Man, how boring is this match that we're willing to dedicate posts to some two-bit troll trying to lie his way to infamy.... --- Drop it to the floor... |
The_Djoker posted... Karma Hunter posted...I didn't realize Snake beating characters was such a death knell for their contest chances. You guys are gonna be real down on Samus and Mario when he beats them, too, huh? You know even if Mario and Samus can beat him, that makes him stronger than all but five characters on the site then right? Like that doesn't make him some pathetic weak character, he's still damn strong. Just not close to the lofty heights he used to be at. --- Die young and save yourself. Brace for the G's, and fast heel-toe work. |
kinsho3 posted... Man, how boring is this match that we're willing to dedicate posts to some two-bit troll trying to lie his way to infamy.... I guess that's what happens when the match is so boring there's nothing to talk about at all... --- "Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
kinsho3 posted... Man, how boring is this match that we're willing to dedicate posts to some two-bit troll trying to lie his way to infamy.... Ammy 67% watch, go! |
the only way I care about this vote stuffing nonsense is if it's George Romero --- Die young and save yourself. Brace for the G's, and fast heel-toe work. |
Man,
I've been doing a little bit of research to find out if Pit has a
realistic shot of beating Cecil. From my research of the stats, it
seems like the only way Pit can win is if Knuckles is a fraud...which is
possible. The thing is...our only clean read of Cecil came through Knuckles last year, but we never had a clean read on Knuckles over the past several years. In 2010, Knuckles was clobbered by Sonic, who was later blown out by Link. You have to literally go through two layers of SFF to arrive at any sort of realistic strength value for Knuckles. And looking at Knuckle's match this contest, we really cannot tell much. First of all, he was facing off against two characters that likely split votes. Second off, we don't have a great read on either of the other two characters. Besides the Rivalry Fumble, this is Seifer's first contest. As for Celes....she was in only one other match prior to this contest.....and that match took place 8 years ago. Still, it makes you think...is Celes closer to strength to Terra or Locke? If you assume the former, then Knuckles is without doubt a solid midcarder. If you assume the latter....then it's safe to assume Knuckles would struggle with the likes of Ness. And it's not only Cecil/Knuckles that we don't have a clean read on. The same goes with Pit - he's been in only two other matches. Both matches were multi-way SFF beatdowns. Hmm....Pit/Cecil could be much more interesting than thought at first.... --- Drop it to the floor... |
ExThaNemesis posted... the only way I care about this vote stuffing nonsense is if it's George Romero lies you'd care if someone was stuffing against Sephiroth |
I
think after everything we've seen, Cecil has to be a massive favorite
over Pit unless his recent game really boosted him. Cecil's very likely
to benefit from whatever steroids the rest of Old Square is on right now
and that spells bad things for Pit. --- Die young and save yourself. Brace for the G's, and fast heel-toe work. |
Knuckles probably doesn't beat Ness by a whole lot. Ness is not as weak as a lot of you seem to think. --- http://gifsoup.com/view4/2077316/thane-dance-o.gif http://gifsoup.com/view1/1334641/pop-that-collar-o.gif |
And for the record, I wouldn't take Pit to beat Ness either. --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" |
1337gamerpr0 posted... hmm Well I was AxemPink but Demonoid Phenomenon stuffed me through the nearest wall so hard I could still see the destruction when I closed my eyes. He did warn me he would do that, though! --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
LeonhartFour posted... Knuckles probably doesn't beat Ness by a whole lot. Ness is not as weak as a lot of you seem to think. I understand Big Daddy was stronger last contest... but he lost to Big Daddy. Ness/Tails seems like a lot better of a match than Ness/Knuckles, too. The reason I think why most of us give Luigi a chance in his Big Boss setup is the expectation that Ness will fold to Mario/Ness proportions or worse. What's your LOGIC (!) behind Ness being so much stronger than most give credit for, anyway? --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
ExThaNemesis posted... I think after everything we've seen, Cecil has to be a massive favorite over Pit unless his recent game really boosted him. Cecil's very likely to benefit from whatever steroids the rest of Old Square is on right now and that spells bad things for Pit. Old Square's been surpassing expectations since 2010. Look at Terra, Kefka, and Cecil. But the thing is it's hard to gauge just how well Cecil did in 2010 because we simply can't get a decent read on Knuckles. --- Drop it to the floor... |
Ness/Tails/Scorpion
were all basically equals once upon a time judging by Auron putting up
near identical scores on all of them in 2003 and 2004. He got 48% on
Liquid and Alucard in 2007. I know that's all a while ago, but Ness has
never been bad. He folds like a house of cards against Nintendo, sure, but that's really got nothing to with his natural strength level. And I don't know if we can properly judge anything from the Big Daddy match anyway. I had Ness losing that, and yet here I am, defending him. Heck, if we assume that Locke isn't noticeably weaker than Celes (and really, why should he be? Celes has no major advantages over him. She's not in any games that he isn't in), a comparison to Knuckles comes out pretty favorably for Ness. --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
KI:R
is from 2012, so I can't expect much of a boost based off of that.
Hades also looked awful, though Palutena wasn't so bad. Still, he
better hope he suffered heavy SFF in the past. --- T H E S T A B L E - bring on Epona! http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg |
Going 50/50 with King Dedede isn't a good result, no matter what excuses you make for it. --- http://gifsoup.com/view/477513/red-vs-blue-road-rage-part-1-o.gif http://gifsoup.com/view/477534/red-vs-blue-road-rage-part-2-o.gif |
it's kind of sad that even mid tier characters are still getting 60+ blow outs in most of these matches |
guys the writer of this blog is clearly someone from the stats topic trying to hoodwink us. Who is it? It could be ME It could be YOU it could even be *gets shot* --- SC2K13 Bracket: Kefka hate hate hate hate hates my bracket! Oracle: Team Frog and Magus |
Ammy's
probably a decent bit stronger than 2010 now that she has MvC3, and
she's always looked respectable, even when she loses. 40% on Weegi is a
pretty good result. --- http://img.imgcake.com/tumblrmb8ky9zpsk1qd3518o8250gifyd.gif http://img.imgcake.com/tumblrmb8ky9zpsk1qd3518o6250gifuv.gif |
Glenn_and_Toad posted... guys OMG GUYZ I FIGURED IT OUT /illuminati |
kinsho3 posted... Man, how boring is this match that we're willing to dedicate posts to some two-bit troll trying to lie his way to infamy.... Apparently being discussed for 2 days in the stats topic = infamy --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? However, the Guru of the next decade so far is SuperNiceDog |
HaRRicH posted... KI:R is from 2012, so I can't expect much of a boost based off of that. Hades also looked awful, though Palutena wasn't so bad. Still, he better hope he suffered heavy SFF in the past. I don't think those two characters are necessarily representative of what Uprising could do for Pit. --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... Apparently being discussed for 2 days in the stats topic = infamy I take it you're still salty from Master [edit] Choke losing. ZFS posted... I don't think those two characters are necessarily representative of what Uprising could do for Pit. Yeah, I agree. Pit could get some legit boost from Uprising, even if Hades and Palutena haven't done well. Pit's been around since Brawl. A game like Uprising only strengthens his profile on this site. Still kind of surprised that Hades didn't do well though. Dude was so friggin cash in Uprising. --- Drop it to the floor... |
GameFAQs would still need to have played Uprising and I don't see much if any indication of THAT --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
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