Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1102

#251 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/10/2013 4:16:28 PM | message detail
Alright, I just figured out that a total of 94 votes were removed from Guybrush. All 94 votes came during the first hour of the match. That explains why Guybrush was killing Max Payne for the first 26 minutes of the match before Max Payne started stalling Guybrush again.
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#252 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/10/2013 4:16:35 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Hey uh does anyone know why we have a day off between the semifinals and the final match

just seems weird looking at the calendar


Bonus poll akin to the "Third place match" of Rivalry Rumble

So if Cloud gets to the final, we get Snake/Samus/Sephiroth

If Snake gets there, we get Cloud/Sephiroth/Samus

Go Cloud
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#253 | Whiskey_Nick | Posted 8/10/2013 4:16:39 PM | message detail
Consistently inconsistent is consistent

also i thought the <3 displayed my joking nature, perhaps i should have used ;) or ;p
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#254 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/10/2013 4:16:49 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Hey uh does anyone know why we have a day off between the semifinals and the final match

just seems weird looking at the calendar


to get in your expert picks?
#255 | nintendogirl1 (Moderator) | Posted 8/10/2013 4:17:49 PM | message detail | (edited)
Karma Hunter posted...
Hey uh does anyone know why we have a day off between the semifinals and the final match

just seems weird looking at the calendar


3rd/4th placed match? Or whatever.
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#256 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/10/2013 4:18:27 PM | message detail | (edited)
Whiskey_Nick posted...
Consistently inconsistent is consistent

also i thought the <3 displayed my joking nature, perhaps i should have used ;) or ;p


The "insufferable" part doesn't really make it sound like a joke

And the heart makes it look more passive aggressive than joking
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#257 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/10/2013 4:17:48 PM | message detail
nintendogirl1 posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Hey uh does anyone know why we have a day off between the semifinals and the final match

just seems weird looking at the calendar


3rd/4th placed match?


more like 4th/5th/6th match
also expert picks
#258 | Whiskey_Nick | Posted 8/10/2013 4:18:58 PM | message detail
Oh... i am sotry Leon

We do need to work on our chemistry before The Leon and Nick listen to The Show Show
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#259 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/10/2013 4:19:31 PM | message detail
Guybrush Stuffwood, seriously? To what depths will people sink?

Turns out that all of Link's contest wins are fradulent!
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#260 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/10/2013 4:20:22 PM | message detail
Bacon revealing that only fodder gets cheated for

That's why they're fodder

Scum
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#261 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/10/2013 4:21:04 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Hey uh does anyone know why we have a day off between the semifinals and the final match

just seems weird looking at the calendar


Bonus poll akin to the "Third place match" of Rivalry Rumble

So if Cloud gets to the final, we get Snake/Samus/Sephiroth

If Snake gets there, we get Cloud/Sephiroth/Samus

Go Cloud


Ew those matches aren't even really that interesting (Snake/Samus/Seph kind of but Seph should have more overlap with Snake if the BR is anything to judge by). Hopefully we'll get Samus > Cloud/Seph to hopefully build more backlash for the final~
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#262 | Calintares | Posted 8/10/2013 4:21:49 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Hey uh does anyone know why we have a day off between the semifinals and the final match

just seems weird looking at the calendar


Bonus poll akin to the "Third place match" of Rivalry Rumble

So if Cloud gets to the final, we get Snake/Samus/Sephiroth

If Snake gets there, we get Cloud/Sephiroth/Samus

Go Cloud


Snake/Samus/Sephiroth is the perfect match. FF7 vs Samus is dumb.
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#263 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/10/2013 4:21:56 PM | message detail
If he keeps doing that I may have to delay updating the top 10 just to make sure he has fully screened the match.
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#264 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/10/2013 4:23:07 PM | message detail
Snake/Samus/Sephiroth is the ultimate match produce a heated 3-way race. It is the closest match to a 33.33/33.33/33.33 result.
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#265 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/10/2013 4:23:17 PM | message detail
Yeah unless Bacon removes more votes it looks like Max is just gonna stall from here to the end. Oh well!
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#266 | nintendogirl1 (Moderator) | Posted 8/10/2013 4:23:29 PM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
Alright, I just figured out that a total of 94 votes were removed from Guybrush. All 94 votes came during the first hour of the match. That explains why Guybrush was killing Max Payne for the first 26 minutes of the match before Max Payne started stalling Guybrush again.


94 votes? That just seems so odd and underwhelming a number.
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#267 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/10/2013 4:23:52 PM | message detail
Clearly Guybrush stuffed 300 votes somewhere else because this should just be a tie the entire way otherwise.

Chop chop Bacon
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#268 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/10/2013 4:24:36 PM | message detail
As for why all of Guybrush's stuffed votes came during the first hour:

I'm guessing the vote stuffing from the previous match spilled over to this match.
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#269 | Whiskey_Nick | Posted 8/10/2013 4:26:12 PM | message detail
Mega Man/Crono/Sonic would be better than Snake/Samus/Sephiroth
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#270 | ZFS | Posted 8/10/2013 4:26:26 PM | message detail
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No, wait, Ganondorf did beat Luigi in a fourway that one time before losing to him in the next round. But as Liquid demonstrated and Big Boss is gonna show us in a couple of weeks, that's not that impressive.


Think you're not going to like those results, if you think Big Boss has it easy there.
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#271 | Geemer02 | Posted 8/10/2013 4:26:36 PM | message detail
An additional Cheat Challenge should be created where users guess which of the three characters lose the most votes due to stuffers.
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#272 | LordoftheMorons | Posted 8/10/2013 4:26:38 PM | message detail
Probably just one stuffer
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#273 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/10/2013 4:29:06 PM | message detail
ZFS posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
No, wait, Ganondorf did beat Luigi in a fourway that one time before losing to him in the next round. But as Liquid demonstrated and Big Boss is gonna show us in a couple of weeks, that's not that impressive.


Think you're not going to like those results, if you think Big Boss has it easy there.


Hey, I've been 100% on predicting BB's wins so far in contests. Luigi/Ness ain't no thing.
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#274 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/10/2013 4:29:53 PM | message detail
Geemer02 posted...
An additional Cheat Challenge should be created where users guess which of the three characters lose the most votes due to stuffers.


but then the actual stuffers would win it
unless....it becomes a competition of who stuffs more for their picks? :O
#275 | ZFS | Posted 8/10/2013 4:30:34 PM | message detail
That would be more impressive if Big Boss didn't have some pretty clear cut paths over the years!
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#276 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/10/2013 4:31:48 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
ZFS posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
No, wait, Ganondorf did beat Luigi in a fourway that one time before losing to him in the next round. But as Liquid demonstrated and Big Boss is gonna show us in a couple of weeks, that's not that impressive.


Think you're not going to like those results, if you think Big Boss has it easy there.


Hey, I've been 100% on predicting BB's wins so far in contests. Luigi/Ness ain't no thing.


well if you pick him to win every time, you won't actually miss any regardless of the results....
#277 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/10/2013 4:32:36 PM | message detail
ZFS posted...
That would be more impressive if Big Boss didn't have some pretty clear cut paths over the years!


Uh, Big Boss > Magus and Big Boss > Kirby were two major board upsets, man.
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#278 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/10/2013 4:33:27 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
ZFS posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
No, wait, Ganondorf did beat Luigi in a fourway that one time before losing to him in the next round. But as Liquid demonstrated and Big Boss is gonna show us in a couple of weeks, that's not that impressive.


Think you're not going to like those results, if you think Big Boss has it easy there.


Hey, I've been 100% on predicting BB's wins so far in contests. Luigi/Ness ain't no thing.


well if you pick him to win every time, you won't actually miss any regardless of the results....


I obviously mean I've called his paths correctly. Picking Big Boss > Mario wouldn't exactly help my argument. <_<
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#279 | ZFS | Posted 8/10/2013 4:35:11 PM | message detail
Magus I remember, that was the one tough one I was thinking about. Can't believe Big Boss over Kirby was the upset at the time. In any case, I haven't missed any either!
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#280 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/10/2013 4:38:23 PM | message detail
Well it looks like at least one of us is gonna have their streak snapped this year, then.

Both of us if Big Boss can take down Sephiroth MAKE IT HAPPEN PUNISHED SNAKE
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#281 | ZFS | Posted 8/10/2013 4:38:37 PM | message detail
That said, Big Boss is easier choice next round because of Ness, but I think Luigi makes it close regardless (and would definitely win 1v1). Luigi has had a lot of reason to benefit from these past few years, being more relevant and in focus than he ever has been during these contests. Hard to imagine that not being good for him.
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#282 | Geemer02 | Posted 8/10/2013 4:39:34 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
Geemer02 posted...
An additional Cheat Challenge should be created where users guess which of the three characters lose the most votes due to stuffers.


but then the actual stuffers would win it
unless....it becomes a competition of who stuffs more for their picks? :O


Imagine the wild unpredictability of every match!
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#283 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/10/2013 4:40:28 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Well it looks like at least one of us is gonna have their streak snapped this year, then.

Both of us if Big Boss can take down Sephiroth MAKE IT HAPPEN PUNISHED SNAKE


nah Luigi will push Ness to below Chester levels
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damn it Ness why are you screwing up this match
#284 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/10/2013 4:40:57 PM | message detail
I'd take Luigi in a 1v1 as well but I'm not at all worried about BB. Ness hurts the Mean Green so much.

Also, if BB cruises to an easy win, will that persuade anyone to give Drake a shot at Pokemon Trainer Blue? Anyone at all?
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#285 | Calintares | Posted 8/10/2013 4:41:57 PM | message detail
ZFS posted...
That said, Big Boss is easier choice next round because of Ness, but I think Luigi makes it close regardless (and would definitely win 1v1). Luigi has had a lot of reason to benefit from these past few years, being more relevant and in focus than he ever has been during these contests. Hard to imagine that not being good for him.


Big Boss has more reason to boost the last few years than literally anyone else in the contest.
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#286 | GloryChaos | Posted 8/10/2013 4:42:03 PM | message detail
Ness isn't that strong though.
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#287 | LordoftheMorons | Posted 8/10/2013 4:44:28 PM | message detail
I hope Luigi SFFs Ness into the ground

50/45/5 Luigi/Big Boss/Ness LET'S GO
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#288 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/10/2013 4:44:42 PM | message detail
Big Boss has almost had this identical setup with Kirby and Lucas, and he ended up beating both of them combined. By a ton. Luigi is stronger than Kirby, yes... but not by that much. And not NEARLY as much as Ness is stronger than Lucas. I feel about as confident as you can possibly feel picking against Nintendo on this site.
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#289 | ZFS | Posted 8/10/2013 4:45:26 PM | message detail
I'll take what Luigi has had, a combination of big games and marketing, to trump PW and a MGS5 announcement. Not that it will necessarily be the winning formula with Ness hanging around, but I think 'biggest character boost' going to Big Boss is exaggerated, though maybe up there because of everyone else simply dropping or being stagnant, for one reason or another.
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#290 | LordoftheMorons | Posted 8/10/2013 4:46:47 PM | message detail
(I don't feel particularly good about Luigi to be honest... might flip on him for expert).

Drake over Blue seems extremely unlikely, though.
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#291 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/10/2013 4:48:52 PM | message detail
Honestly, my feelings on Drake, such as he can be considered to really have a chance (I'll be charitable and put Blue as a 10:1 favorite right now), will be influenced by what Luigi can do to Ness. If Ness hangs around a lot and obviously costs Luigi the match by a lot, it'll mean there's some potential for G&W to do the same.

...but really, G&W not getting ridiculously crushed seems hard for me to swallow, no matter what Ness does.
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#292 | ZFS | Posted 8/10/2013 4:49:21 PM | message detail
I took Drake over Blue in my bracket, but that was before Drake kinda sucked against Pac-Man. Blue's about where I had him, but I figured Drake would be more popular than he is. I guess there's Game & Watch to consider, but I dunno.
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#293 | --Smurf-- | Posted 8/10/2013 4:58:50 PM | message detail
A 94 vote stuff seems oddly appropriate for Guybrush.
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#294 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/10/2013 5:11:05 PM | message detail
From what I can figure, I believe some of these stuffed votes came from London in the UK.
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#295 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/10/2013 5:17:24 PM | message detail
LordoftheMorons posted...
I hope Luigi SFFs Ness into the ground

50/45/5 Luigi/Big Boss/Ness LET'S GO


Fox SFF'd Wolf as hard as you could possibly SFF someone and still lost. It's hard to imagine Luigi SFFing Ness that hard when Mario got 82% on Ness directly in 2005. Of course, Luigi has the benefit of being stronger than Big Boss already (presumably), so he's got a little wiggle room.
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#296 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/10/2013 5:19:56 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...
I hope Luigi SFFs Ness into the ground

50/45/5 Luigi/Big Boss/Ness LET'S GO


Fox SFF'd Wolf as hard as you could possibly SFF someone and still lost.


false
Wolf got twice Chester's percentage :P
#297 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/10/2013 5:22:45 PM | message detail
#298 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 8/10/2013 5:23:23 PM | message detail
Yeah, there is no way the Earthbound faithful is going to let Ness fall that low.
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#299 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/10/2013 5:24:56 PM | message detail
But seriously, Fox SFF'd Wolf down to Link/Ganondorf and Snake/Raiden numbers, the kind of SFF differential you'd expect to see when the fanbase so overwhelmingly prefers the winner that people who prefer the loser are seen as weirdos (Hi Moltar, hi Lopen). I don't think that was totally legit and I wouldn't expect to see Fox/Wolf go that way 1-on-1. I think Star Fox fans were just smart enough to know who to give their vote to if they wanted someone to advance.

That's basically Luigi's best hope, that they'll react in a similar manner. I don't think the Earthbound contingent, regardless of how small it may be, will let that happen though.
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#300 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/10/2013 5:26:39 PM | message detail
crazy theory to make myself more confident in Luigi: Earthbound voters feel burned by Nintendo and would vote Big Boss otherwise...!
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