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Someone linked to the updater site on /v/. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
Someone should link them to the maps that make their stuffing completely obvious instead...! --- Guess who I am! http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs3/1345748_o.gif |
-LusterSoldier- posted... West Midlands in the UK: I voted for Adam Jensen to secure my expert, so don't blame me for my region being full of vote stuffers! --- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, the Guru champion for the 2010 GotD. |
OK now what 150 vote cuts in half a hour..? |
This is..stupid Marisa needs 16 votes over Adam per update to pass him Her average ever since the lead peaked at 1242 is 22 per update If she continue like this and it's legit and not stuffing...well.. |
Bacon won't let it stand if it gets anywhere close. Don't worry. --- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/26leonpngat.png http://img.imgcake.com/nio/daigohadoupnguj.png |
It's not legit and it's most likely not even going to happen. And in the off chance it did happen, it would be removed anyway. No need to make a fuss --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
He
removed votes from Cirno despite not even coming close to getting 2nd
place. So I think he'll remove the votes from Marisa even if she
doesn't finish in 2nd place. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
I believe we might have a vote stuffer in the North West region of England: Vivi 37.24% Adam Jensen 15.17% Marisa Kirisame 47.59% --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
What
EXACTLY is Touhou?I have never heard of these series.And all characters
are little kids and women too?And people vote stuffing for them?What is
going on? --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
Safer_777 posted... What EXACTLY is Touhou?I have never heard of these series.And all characters are little kids and women too? http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Touhou_Project |
Then00bAvenger posted... It's not legit and it's most likely not even going to happen. And in the off chance it did happen, it would be removed anyway. This is annoying me that it happens It has zero reason to happen She won't win and finishing second place DOESNT MATTER AT ALL |
Safer_777 posted... And people vote stuffing for them?What is going on? To put it in incredibly oversimple words, the Touhou fanbase can be just as stupidly zealous as --- le horror --- bronies. |
Finishing second place DOES matter if you have an Expert bracket. Unlikely the people organizing this stuffing attempt do though. --- http://gifsoup.com/view/477513/red-vs-blue-road-rage-part-1-o.gif http://gifsoup.com/view/477534/red-vs-blue-road-rage-part-2-o.gif |
So,
I've actually changed to Guybrush > Max Payne in Expert Challenge. I
think Ganon is going to destroy this poll, and it leaves those rabid
Guybrush fans the perfect opportunity to edge out a character nobody has
cared about in years, much the same Monkey Island did in that SMB3
match years ago. But it just feels so wrong. --- Agent Triple Zero at your service! The artist formerly known as greatone10. |
Guybrush isn't going to do as well during a day match, and he's going to need more than the 9.73% Monkey Island needed to advance with Mario 3 that year. Ganon's not going to do THAT well. --- http://img.imgcake.com/leonhjpguz.jpg |
Janus5000 posted... only getting a tripling on Guybrush would be a worse performance for Ganondorf than his loss to literally Magus Vincent didn't really do too much more than a tripling last contest. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3787 --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
Still,
I feel like the only reason we're favoring Max is name recognition (and
I do mean name recognition, picture recognition isn't going to do him
anything with what he has in his pic), and the fact that Max looks
better in stats that are nearly a decade old. We haven't even seen this
dude since 2004, and the characters that would probably mirror him in
trends are GTA characters, and that doesn't give me any confidence in
him at all. --- Agent Triple Zero at your service! The artist formerly known as greatone10. |
Max has still had a recent game, though, and that should be enough to give him the edge over Guybrush Threepwood, whose peak was probably 2010 considering his series got new life breathed into it. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
You realize your getting old when voting to Guybrush "feels wrong"... >_< I wonder what feels right to vote for...maybe "Creeper"? Oh, Missingno! This is a character with depth! Anyways, Guybrush makes me nostalgic, I do miss "Graphic Adventures" even tough they are not THAT graphic compared to current RPG's, but they do had great puzzles. --- Inter |
_SecretSquirrel posted... Still, I feel like the only reason we're favoring Max is name recognition (and I do mean name recognition, picture recognition isn't going to do him anything with what he has in his pic), and the fact that Max looks better in stats that are nearly a decade old. We haven't even seen this dude since 2004, and the characters that would probably mirror him in trends are GTA characters, and that doesn't give me any confidence in him at all. GTA characters would probably still fodderize Guybrush. --- Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC |
It's funny how we're calling Max Payne irrelevant when comparing him to Guybrush Threepwood. --- http://www.gifsoup.com/view/593815/frasier-and-niles-dance-o.gif |
LeonhartFour posted... It's funny how we're calling Max Payne irrelevant when comparing him to Guybrush Threepwood. Guybrush is a pretty legendary character who had a bigger impact on games than Max Payne. He is fodder on this site, but I think he is generally a well respected historic character. --- XBL Gamertag - Tiirshak |
LinkMarioSamus posted... GTA characters would probably still fodderize Guybrush. Well, I'd probably take Guybrush over CJ and the GTA3 guy. Vercetti did get doubled by Crash Bandicoot and all, and I'd take Vercetti over those two. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
Guybrush is legendary in Europe, maybe. Most people on this site don't even know him, much less respect him. --- http://gifsoup.com/view/477513/red-vs-blue-road-rage-part-1-o.gif http://gifsoup.com/view/477534/red-vs-blue-road-rage-part-2-o.gif |
People on this site don't know twenty-year-old PC characters? I'm shocked! e: Makes you wonder how much better he'd do if his games were around during the time where he could actually benefit from GameFAQs being around to give you answers, though the remakes/Tales of games might have helped with that a tiny bit. Also makes you wonder how well he'd do if he ever showed up on, say, the DS like a certain lawyer from a popular adventure game series here. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
This video explains TouHou vote stuffing and also why the fanbase is insane. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7lHJXPKoX0 It starts off not great but is worth sitting through the entire thing as it really ramps it's way up to Yoblazer levels of ranting and raving. --- Not changing this sig until the Bengals, Bills, 49ers and Lions win the Super Bowl (10/10/10) Professional UotY Mentor to Leo3Leo, McFlubbin and Jeff Zero |
LinkMarioSamus posted... _SecretSquirrel posted...Still, I feel like the only reason we're favoring Max is name recognition (and I do mean name recognition, picture recognition isn't going to do him anything with what he has in his pic), and the fact that Max looks better in stats that are nearly a decade old. We haven't even seen this dude since 2004, and the characters that would probably mirror him in trends are GTA characters, and that doesn't give me any confidence in him at all. Even the unadjusted stats for 2010 only show Niko getting 62 on Guybrush, and Guybrush goes through Vincent vs. Seph. (why the hell did Seph get matched up with two different FF7 characters that year?) --- Agent Triple Zero at your service! The artist formerly known as greatone10. |
The main thing that's really throwing me off about this talk of Guybrush possibly beating Max Payne is that it's Guybrush Threepwood we're talking about here - the same Guybrush who got destroyed by Ryo Hazuki way back when. --- "Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
Don't let the small vocal minority confuse you. Guybrush is trash and will be last. --- Not changing this sig until the Bengals, Bills, 49ers and Lions win the Super Bowl (10/10/10) Professional UotY Mentor to Leo3Leo, McFlubbin and Jeff Zero |
Not_Wylvane posted... LinkMarioSamus posted...GTA characters would probably still fodderize Guybrush. Well I meant the GTA characters we've seen contests, so Claude doesn't count. But yeah I guess you have a point. Even then, Max Payne should be at least as strong as them if not stronger (notice he outseeded both Niko and Vercetti). No one plays GTA for the characters, the exact opposite is true of Max Payne (in case the title didn't help). --- Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC |
Qwaar posted... LeonhartFour posted...It's funny how we're calling Max Payne irrelevant when comparing him to Guybrush Threepwood. If that's true, it's only out of nostalgia for old PC games. For what it's worth, Max Payne was ranked above any Monkey Island game on unikgamer for a while, and I'd have to imagine this site takes to action games better than adventure games. In hindsight though, it makes sense for Guybrush to be a "well respected historic character", but only because his game(s) ushered in a new age for its/their genre. A genre that has NEVER been popular on this site. --- Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC |
-LusterSoldier- posted... I believe we might have a vote stuffer in the North West region of England: It got over 50% at one point, but it's back under 50% now. --- RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed. |
You
know what the weird thing about all of this is, though? Look back at
the updates where the stuffing was confirmed. Marisa's still often
pulling in sub-50 updates there. It's definitely up quite a bit from her
non-stuffed updates, some of which barely scrape double digits (not
counting her negative update when the votes were removed, her worst
update is 10 votes, so she's never been held to single digits but she's
been damn close; there are multiple 11-vote updates), but less than ten
votes a minute...that cheating isn't terribly effective. Maybe the
anti-stuffing methods actually are doing something. --- RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed. |
LMS, can we have a real talk for a second? I have no idea what the hell a unikgamer is and even if I did, it means absolutely nothing. So if you could stop bringing it up in half your posts it would be splendid. --- ~FFDragon. (at Work !!) The Cream of Resident Evil Fanboyism. |
I just realized that Crimson Dragon is actually a monster from Yugioh and not that thing from Star Force 3 (totally random post because im bored and 2 more hours to see if Max Payne is going to be friends with Kerrigan in the "we lost to a weak character" club) |
http://i.imgur.com/NQo0zgw.png Someone on /v/ just posted that message urging other people to use proxies to vote. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
It's gonna be a lot of fun if they actually pull Marisa ahead and then all the votes get taken away. --- http://img.imgcake.com/leonpngpe.png http://img.imgcake.com/squalloweenpngem.png |
Nanis23 posted... I just realized that Crimson Dragon is actually a monster from Yugioh and not that thing from Star Force 3 http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/0/2806/1628625-wallpaper_the_legend_of_dragoon_04_1024.jpg --- ~FFDragon. (at Work !!) The Cream of Resident Evil Fanboyism. |
-LusterSoldier- posted... http://i.imgur.com/NQo0zgw.png wow ...this is the last Touhou character right? |
Yes.
After this match, all of the Touhou characters will have been
eliminated from the contest. So thank god for that. But it's still
possible that this kind of vote stuffing might happen in other matches
that /v/ tries to rally in. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
-LusterSoldier- posted... http://i.imgur.com/NQo0zgw.png As a touhou fan and a contest casual, I am disappointed. --- http://img.imgcake.com/RegaroUlquiorrapngse.png |
I just spotted a vote stuffer in Germany. Nordrhein-Westfalen: Vivi 39.09% Adam Jensen 12.73% Marisa Kirisame 48.18% --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
TsunamiXXVIII posted... -LusterSoldier- posted...I believe we might have a vote stuffer in the North West region of England: I'm probably within driving distance of this dweeb This disgusts me somewhat --- XIII_rocks, the cream of XIII fanboyism. |
Well they are starting vote-stuffing in the South East again. 10 minutes ago, Marisa had 12.5% Now: Vivi: 3.45% Adam Jensen: 20.69% Marisa: 75.86% |
Regaro_Ukiera posted... -LusterSoldier- posted...http://i.imgur.com/NQo0zgw.png I'm more disappointed that these guys have become so bad at their job and can't properly rally anymore. It just looks bad. --- Brawl FC - 1332 8069 6690 http://i.imgur.com/OZ9aS.png |
Recette will probably get the same treatment --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 51/64 Today's Picks: Vivi and Ganondorf |
They're not even doing a good job of stuffing either! Marisa isn't making any major gains anymore. --- http://i52.tinypic.com/2zfiu09.gif http://i54.tinypic.com/10729w2.gif |
Match LXVI: (9) Ganondorf vs. (10) Guybrush Threepwood vs. (19) Max Payne Previous Contest Ganondorf 2010 58.65% against Mewtwo 63.83% against Ken 42.82% against Sonic the Hedgehog Guybrush Threepwood 2010 22.56% against Vincent Valentine Max Payne 2004 38.04% against Tommy Vercetti Analysis It is rare for Ganondorf to be given a weak opponent so that he can flex his muscles. With two fodder opponents Ganondorf has the opportunity to reach for a high percentage. It does not matter what his percent is though as with Mario waiting for him next round. Ganondorf will again be tied down against a Nintendo opponent. Guybrush is the classical able to get nominate, but has few fans character. This will be his sixth character battle and he has yet to make an impression in a match. I would argue that his 2010 performance was his best contest match. With this being a day match his performance could suffer given Europe is where he gets a lot of his strength from, but that did not hurt him against Vincent. It has been a long time since we last saw Max and back then he had some strength, being around the fodder line. Today, like many characters who returned after taking a vacation he should be a lot weaker. Max Payne 3 was released last year, but that may only stop him from being terrible fodder. I hesitate to rank him below Guybrush because Guybrush is just so weak, even after his performance against Vincent. While it would be funny to see Guybrush win something I do not think this will be the match for it to happen. As for Ganondorf, he has a good chance at breaking 60% against these two. charmander6000s Bracket: Ganondorf > Max Payne and Guybrush Threepwood charmander6000s Prediction: Ganondorf 60.43%, Max Payne 21.36%, Guybrush Threepwood 18.21% --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 51/64 Today's Picks: Vivi and Ganondorf |
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