Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1101

#151 | vcharon | Posted 8/9/2013 9:35:55 PM | message detail
It's not a rally as much as it is vote stuffing. Unless 100% of China, 84% of Russia, and all of Iraq, Pakistan and Africa are suddenly into little girls.
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#152 | Surskit | Posted 8/9/2013 9:36:11 PM | message detail
Just for the record, Wyoming is the only US state to have Adam Jensen winning. And he's currently winning with 50% of the vote!
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#153 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/9/2013 9:36:25 PM | message detail
Wyoming holding down the fort for Jensen.
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#154 | xp1337 | Posted 8/9/2013 9:36:43 PM | message detail
I really want to suspend my disbelief and pretend this is legit, but I just look at the map and I just can't. =(
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#155 | Xuxon | Posted 8/9/2013 9:37:27 PM | message detail | (edited)
the Vivi vote was South Africa, which always gets some votes. that's probably the only non-rallied/stuffed vote in Africa.
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#156 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 8/9/2013 9:37:34 PM | message detail
Wow. You can't even read Adam's name at all.
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#157 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 8/9/2013 9:37:36 PM | message detail
Lopen posted...
Man if you're gonna be that bad at stuffing just make it super blatant imhhho

I want Marisa to win updates outright it'd be hilarious


Well that's just the thing. We're not actually allowed to see how many votes came in from each country; we can only come up with rough estimates based on percentages. And so for a country with no "natural" votes at all, 1 vote or 1000 votes look exactly the same, whereas even one "natural" vote for another character makes it blatantly obvious. For example, those odd trends in certain regions of England.
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#158 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/9/2013 9:37:59 PM | message detail
Xuxon posted...
the Vivi vote was South Africa, which always gets some votes. that's probably the only non-rallied/stuffed vote in Africa.


remove every vote except that Vivi vote do it Bacon

and then everyone loses points in expert unless they no picked 2nd/3rd
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#159 | scifi1980 | Posted 8/9/2013 9:38:03 PM | message detail
There is a good chance Jensen could be run for governor of Wyoming and actually win, and people wouldn't catch on for a few weeks.
#160 | cteswhatever | Posted 8/9/2013 9:38:04 PM | message detail
A tie? Awesome.
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#161 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/9/2013 9:38:19 PM | message detail | (edited)
What are you talking about? It says Acao, just like his momma named him.
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#162 | -hotdogturtle-- | Posted 8/9/2013 9:38:42 PM | message detail
Where can you see the map?
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#163 | xp1337 | Posted 8/9/2013 9:39:34 PM | message detail
-hotdogturtle-- posted...
Where can you see the map?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5207

Click the "View Map/Detailed Results" button.
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#164 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/9/2013 9:40:14 PM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
Wyoming holding down the fort for Jensen.


WYOMING'D
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#165 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 8/9/2013 9:40:21 PM | message detail
Xuxon posted...
the Vivi vote was South Africa, which always gets some votes. that's probably the only non-rallied/stuffed vote in Africa.


Eh, Algeria and Tunisia have been fairly consistent at showing up. The time of day makes it a tad suspicious, but until we see the percentage leave 100%, I'm not calling those two suspicious.
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#166 | Xuxon | Posted 8/9/2013 9:40:37 PM | message detail
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 8/10/2013 12:37:59 AM | #158
and then everyone loses points in expert unless they no picked 2nd/3rd

finally my chance to catch up
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#167 | spooky96 | Posted 8/9/2013 9:40:56 PM | message detail
I feel suspicious for that 60% vote from India to Marisa Kirisame. There's no way people have heard this game or character's name.

That 14% vote for Vivi is 1 vote from me.
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#168 | raytan7585 | Posted 8/9/2013 9:40:58 PM | message detail
#169 | swordz9 | Posted 8/9/2013 9:41:04 PM | message detail
When I click "View Map" nothing happens aside from the View Map button disappearing.
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#170 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/9/2013 9:41:45 PM | message detail | (edited)
As of right now, current results for the US and Canada:

Vivi 59.54%
Adam Jensen 22.87%
Marisa Kirisame 17.59%

Vivi 56.82%
Adam Jensen 25.56%
Marisa Kirisame 17.62%

When North America starts dominating Europe with the morning vote, it's all over for Marisa, assuming Europe and Asia doesn't overpower North America with their insane rallies and vote stuffing. I can't see Marisa getting the North American morning vote over Jensen.


-hotdogturtle-- posted...
Where can you see the map?


You won't be able to view the map if you use Throwback Mode. You'll have to disable Throwback Mode to view the map, even though the poll results pages do not use Throwback Mode if you have it turned on.
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#171 | xp1337 | Posted 8/9/2013 9:42:02 PM | message detail
swordz9 posted...
When I click "View Map" nothing happens aside from the View Map button disappearing.

If you have Throwback mode on, like Luster was saying, it won't work.
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#172 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 8/9/2013 9:42:13 PM | message detail
spooky96 posted...
I feel suspicious for that 60% vote from India to Marisa Kirisame. There's no way people have heard this game or character's name.

That 14% vote for Vivi is 1 vote from me.


Its probably only like 5 people voting. You can't really take the percentages too seriously in a lot of those non english speaking countries around the world. Its likely only a few people voting.
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#173 | Lopen | Posted 8/9/2013 9:42:15 PM | message detail
TsunamiXXVIII posted...
Well that's just the thing. We're not actually allowed to see how many votes came in from each country; we can only come up with rough estimates based on percentages. And so for a country with no "natural" votes at all, 1 vote or 1000 votes look exactly the same, whereas even one "natural" vote for another character makes it blatantly obvious. For example, those odd trends in certain regions of England.


Yeah I get that I'm just saying it'd be funny if votes were stuffed in droves. I mean the map and what proxy servers they're using sorta throws the subtlety out the window anyway.

They probably don't actually have the stuffing resources to do it in a drove though.
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#174 | swordz9 | Posted 8/9/2013 9:43:02 PM | message detail
Oh so that's why. Well I'm not going out of throwback mode to look at a map. I can only hope throwback lasts forever >_>
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#175 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/9/2013 9:43:02 PM | message detail
Well, Jensen is currently outright winning the UK, so I wouldn't be surprised if he overtakes Marisa even with the stuffing.
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#176 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/9/2013 9:43:06 PM | message detail
ya go my Vivi
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#177 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/9/2013 9:43:39 PM | message detail
I got used to the new layout in about 5 minutes. You guys and your fear of change. No one wonder nothing past 2006 has any strength on this site!
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#178 | Xuxon | Posted 8/9/2013 9:43:42 PM | message detail
From: swordz9 | Posted: 8/10/2013 12:43:02 AM | #174
Oh so that's why. Well I'm not going out of throwback mode to look at a map. I can only hope throwback lasts forever >_>

mine wore off today temporarily and i got scared for a second hah

but seriously just open the map in another browser
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#179 | xp1337 | Posted 8/9/2013 9:43:55 PM | message detail
You know, I'm beginning to root for comedy option: Both are stuffed, Marisa ends up winning still but Vivi jumps up to 75% post-removal.

everybody wins
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#180 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 8/9/2013 9:44:04 PM | message detail
Dropped a line to Bacon about the stuffing. No idea if he's actually gonna look into it or not. We might get a post from Devin.
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#181 | Sorozone | Posted 8/9/2013 9:44:13 PM | message detail
Yeah I can't see Marisa hanging on here. Jensen's got this. Looks like a 0 for me!
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#182 | Xuxon | Posted 8/9/2013 9:44:17 PM | message detail
From: KamikazePotato | Posted: 8/10/2013 12:43:39 AM | #177
I got used to the new layout in about 5 minutes. You guys and your fear of change. No one wonder nothing past 2006 has any strength on this site!

i like the new layout but gamefox still doesn't support it
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#183 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 8/9/2013 9:44:52 PM | message detail
Yeah, but here's the really weird part.

Marisa's actually winning the vote in Japan. Reimu and Cirno didn't win in Japan. Yes, the vote total's obviously still small, but the fact is, Asia should be dominant at this time of the day.

Rallies or not, I think maybe Marisa is the strongest Touhou character.
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#184 | spooky96 | Posted 8/9/2013 9:46:24 PM | message detail | (edited)
FateStayAlbion posted...
spooky96 posted...
I feel suspicious for that 60% vote from India to Marisa Kirisame. There's no way people have heard this game or character's name.

That 14% vote for Vivi is 1 vote from me.


Its probably only like 5 people voting. You can't really take the percentages too seriously in a lot of those non english speaking countries around the world. Its likely only a few people voting.


Well yea of course there's only like only a few have voted despite India having a population of 1.3 billion lol (majority doesn't really play games, especially the 80s, 90s games).

Suspicious because out of those 3 Vivi is a hell lot more popular, so people even knowing other 2 characters ...something....is....wrong. Even if there are like 10 people voting.
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#185 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/9/2013 9:45:23 PM | message detail
the ultimate stuffing test: put 1 vote for Vivi in every country, watch what happens to the %s
#186 | Lopen | Posted 8/9/2013 9:45:33 PM | message detail
The new layout is perfectly fine now that they have above message display (not just because I prefer above but because 90% of the color schemes totally don't work with side). I'd actually argue it's better than the old one.
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#187 | xp1337 | Posted 8/9/2013 9:46:38 PM | message detail
I definitely preferred the old layout but I made the switch because throwback is going away eventually, might as well get used to this.
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#188 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 8/9/2013 9:48:09 PM | message detail
...But it's blatantly obvious that something fishy is going on in China. Like I said, 100% is an unknown number of voters who all agree (if there are even multiple voters at all); almost 100% is suspicious. Marisa's at 98.39% in China.
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#189 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/9/2013 9:48:33 PM | message detail
another cut!
watch Marisa's vote total get sliced harder than Cirno's
#190 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/9/2013 9:48:36 PM | message detail
no lie I bust out laughing when I saw China on the vote map
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#191 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/9/2013 9:49:35 PM | message detail
TsunamiXXVIII posted...
...But it's blatantly obvious that something fishy is going on in China. Like I said, 100% is an unknown number of voters who all agree (if there are even multiple voters at all); almost 100% is suspicious. Marisa's at 98.39% in China.


which is why putting 1 Vivi vote in every country=the ultimate stuffing test
#192 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/9/2013 9:49:46 PM | message detail
It's really hard for me to care about any of these updates due to Marisa probably getting 500+ votes slices off at the end.
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#193 | vcharon | Posted 8/9/2013 9:50:03 PM | message detail
Yeah, China's percentage is now at like 98.something%. Definite stuffing, and not by just a few votes.
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#194 | Lopen | Posted 8/9/2013 9:50:50 PM | message detail
Mongolia has votes hell yeah

It's been a long time coming
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#195 | Surskit | Posted 8/9/2013 9:50:55 PM | message detail
Even if Marisa kept the votes, the morning vote will probably demolish her lead.
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#196 | xp1337 | Posted 8/9/2013 9:50:57 PM | message detail
vcharon posted...
Yeah, China's percentage is now at like 98.something%. Definite stuffing, and not by just a few votes.

Yeah, I think that's 61 of 62 minimum. >_>
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#197 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/9/2013 9:51:29 PM | message detail
vcharon posted...
Yeah, China's percentage is now at like 98.something%. Definite stuffing, and not by just a few votes.


If you assume just one vote for Vivi in China, that means we're already at 71 votes from China.
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#198 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 8/9/2013 9:51:31 PM | message detail
Marisa barely maintains a tie with stuffing.

Cirno was better than this
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#199 | Xuxon | Posted 8/9/2013 9:51:54 PM | message detail
From: xp1337 | Posted: 8/10/2013 12:50:57 AM | #196
vcharon posted...
Yeah, China's percentage is now at like 98.something%. Definite stuffing, and not by just a few votes.

Yeah, I think that's 61 of 62 minimum. >_>

already up to 70/71
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#200 | xp1337 | Posted 8/9/2013 9:53:12 PM | message detail
Xuxon posted...
From: xp1337 | Posted: 8/10/2013 12:50:57 AM | #196
vcharon posted...
Yeah, China's percentage is now at like 98.something%. Definite stuffing, and not by just a few votes.

Yeah, I think that's 61 of 62 minimum. >_>

already up to 70/71

Yeah, I was using the wrong number. Or else it really was 98.39% before and I just lost track.
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