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Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Ganondorf drops like a rock. --- Brawl FC - 1332 8069 6690 http://i.imgur.com/OZ9aS.png |
Sorozone posted... Eh, I'd easily have Mario as the second strongest now. He's got no good matches to prove it, though. His biggest performance excluding Mario/Cloud is a SFF victory over, like, Samus. He still has to prove he can get over the hump against the Clouderoth tier directly. Samus at least has taken a big bite out of Cloud... Mario's never come close to Sephiroth. --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
so what KH is saying here is that Samus > Mario choo choo --- i'll do rydia -Dante |
Karma Hunter posted... Sorozone posted...Eh, I'd easily have Mario as the second strongest now. when was the last time he even got a fair match against Cloud or Sephiroth like....2005? |
I don't see a reason for Ganondorf to drop.. The only character we have yet to see that I believe will drop hard and people here will be shocked by his underperformance is Kratos |
Who needs to be close to Sephiroth when you can beat Cloud directly? Aww yeah 2002 coming back in style. --- ~War~ |
Nobody answered.Is the 15% prediction percentage for Yuna the lowest for 1st round or Charizard and Missingno had less? --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
Safer_777 posted... Nobody answered.Is the 15% prediction percentage for Yuna the lowest for 1st round or Charizard and Missingno had less? Missingno had 24% and Charizard had 53% in round one. |
I
would not be completely, utterly shocked if Samus threatened Mario,
even directly - and I say this as someone who picked Mario easily in
2005. She scored 46% on Mario when Link was in the match with
both of them, and the idea of Samus resisting SFF better than Mario
against Link seems wacky. Her performances have been almost universally
better since Mario/Samus 2k5. Not that I'd take it! I don't even like Samus --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
Yeah,
Mario still has to prove that he's #2, but that sure won't stop me from
taking him over Sephiroth or Cloud in a fair match. Surprisingly
though, he had some blips in the radar against his own crew in 2010.
Link SFF'd him worse than in 2002 (weird at the time considering Link
was getting anti-voted), the Charizard performance speaks for itself
(and I guess can be discarded), but I didn't think he even looked that
good against Mega Man. Mario should have hit 60% there. --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/gdl8lcn.jpg |
1337gamerpr0 posted... Karma Hunter posted...Sorozone posted...Eh, I'd easily have Mario as the second strongest now. Mario faced Sephiroth in 2007 and got his doors blown off. --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
Sorozone posted... Eh, I'd easily have Mario as the second strongest now. Lol, taking a Elite vs Fodder match seriously. Tifa is the 3rd strongest now right? --- Man is not the creature of circumstances. Circumstances are the creatures of man. |
-Zelmor- posted... Sorozone posted...Eh, I'd easily have Mario as the second strongest now. Mario's got a lot more reasons to be #2 than Mario/Duke. --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
Mario got 63% on Zero in 2005. Mega Man looked pretty good in 2010. 60% seems unrealistic. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
-Zelmor- posted... Sorozone posted...Eh, I'd easily have Mario as the second strongest now. Lol, thinking i'm basing it off this match. --- http://i.imgur.com/32RNLnc.gif |
Karma Hunter posted... Mario faced Sephiroth in 2007 and got his doors blown off. that is still 6 years ago though |
Nah
Samus resisting SFF better than Mario against Link when all 3 are in
the poll makes sense. I made freakin venn diagrams showing how Samus's
fanbase works back in the day to argue Mario crushing her directly
despite STATS and I still think they fit. Basically it's like. There's the core nintendo voters, and then the outside voters. Mario's higher on the pecking order than Samus for the Nintendo voters, with Link being better than both, while Samus is stronger among the outside voters because she's got a more badass design or her games are "more mature" or whatever. Goes to follow that Link is going to wreck the Nintendo core most so Samus will stand up better than Mario because she's got better outside support. Have a three way of Link Mario Samus and I'm not too surprised if Samus comes in second place there, but she never beats Mario directly without Link there and she never beats him in a four way if there's a non Nintendo option there. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
And
I agree that Samus can threaten to beat Mario... if Mega Man is the
third wheel. She'll stand out against the two icons. If it's Charizard,
though, I think it could become a Mario vs. Pokemon thing (again) in
which Samus gets lost in the shuffle. --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif |
Duke
would have every reason to fall off the popularity cliff the last few
years so nothing really to take from this match other than Mario doing
what he needs to be doing. Not a good idea to draw conclusions past
that. --- Smurf, the cream of Sonic Fanboyism. |
Guys if it's Mario/Samus/Mega Man obviously Samus and Mega Man Robot LFF each other leading to Mario getting 80%. Geez. --- ~War~ |
1337gamerpr0 posted... Karma Hunter posted...Mario faced Sephiroth in 2007 and got his doors blown off. And 2010 is 3 years ago. ALL of our stats are old and outdated the point of near-irrelevancy. All I'm saying is that Mario hasn't been able to pull off a shocking win against the Clouderoth tier since Mario/Cloud 2002. He might be #2, but the king stays the king (or queen, technically) until Mario can get that direct win. Sephiroth has throttled Mario over and over again contest after contest. There's a stigma! --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
Yeah Duke Nukem Forever is unique in that it destroyed any reason to vote for Duke. The joke is gone, and the game was awful. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Karma Hunter posted... 1337gamerpr0 posted...Karma Hunter posted...Mario faced Sephiroth in 2007 and got his doors blown off. Not gonna lie, you sound like you're arguing Mega Man > Snake 7 years ago! --- ~War~ |
FranzyvonKarma posted... Karma Hunter posted...1337gamerpr0 posted...Karma Hunter posted...Mario faced Sephiroth in 2007 and got his doors blown off. And Mega Man was, like, a near unanimous favorite on the board in that match even though Snake was actually quite close to him based on the stats from the year before. I'm not saying the stigma is valid. I'm not saying I take Sephiroth > Mario! But Mario still has to actually, y'know, do it. Just like Snake did with Mega Man. --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
Also holy crap I've been on this board for 8 years what have I done with my life. --- ~War~ |
Lopen posted... Nah Samus resisting SFF better than Mario against Link when all 3 are in the poll makes sense. I made freakin venn diagrams showing how Samus's fanbase works back in the day to argue Mario crushing her directly despite STATS and I still think they fit. what's this about LinkMarioSamus .... ;) |
Mario/Bowser outperformed Cloud/Sephiroth on Link/Ganondorf despite possible SFF. There we go, stigma erased! --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
AxemRedRanger posted... Mario/Bowser outperformed Cloud/Sephiroth on Link/Ganondorf despite possible SFF. All Rivalry Rumble means is Charizard > Sephiroth is a lock! ....right? --- ~War~ |
Also the closest Snake had ever gotten to Mega Man directly was 46% (2003). His worst performance was 43% (2004). The closest Mario's ever gotten to Sephiroth is 44% (2005). His worst performance is 38% (2003). I'll say again that Mario should beat Sephiroth. I'll take that pick every time. But if the theories about Samus > Mario indirectly and Sephiroth holding his ground prove true, he can lose! --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
Link>Mario>Samus without question. You don't mess with the Hierarchy. Except Pokemon because trolls. --- Hey, its that SuperNiceDog! Congrats to the Guru 2011 winner |
Karma Hunter posted... Also the closest Snake had ever gotten to Mega Man directly was 46% (2003). His worst performance was 43% (2004). All this tells me is that now that it's 2013 Mario wins with 68%. --- ~War~ |
FranzyvonKarma posted... AxemRedRanger posted...Mario/Bowser outperformed Cloud/Sephiroth on Link/Ganondorf despite possible SFF. I didn't see any Charizards in Rivalry Rumble :P |
Karma Hunter posted... Also the closest Snake had ever gotten to Mega Man directly was 46% (2003). His worst performance was 43% (2004). He can, I guess! Pretending that past Sephiroth wins over Maro (the most recent of which was in 2007) matter at all is just being silly, though. It's shackling your mind because Bacon is bad at bracketmaking. Because Mario hasn't managed to avoid Link before running into Cloud/Sephiroth since 2007. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
FranzyvonKarma posted... Karma Hunter posted...Also the closest Snake had ever gotten to Mega Man directly was 46% (2003). His worst performance was 43% (2004). It hasn't been a proper upward trajectory though... Mario did worse in 2007 than he did in 2005. Heck, when Fox was in the match even Mario+Fox combined didn't beat Sephiroth alone. Then there's 2010 where Mario was hidden behind walls of SFF and doesn't have many good matches to gauge, although even before accounting for SFF his number on Mega Man wasn't very impressive. He only scored a little more than 2006 Snake and Snake's boosted like crazy since then. --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
Dammit KH just because I don't post the ...! doesn't mean my obvious joke isn't a joke. --- ~War~ |
I mean you just gave a serious response to "Mario gets 68% on Sephiroth" what is wrong with you are you Mumei again --- ~War~ |
KH, the ultimate anti-joke watch out Missingno --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
You have Mewtwo > Vincent you're full of jokes...! --- ~War~ |
The only joke will be Vincent when he ends up finishing behind Phoenix, Objection quote boost --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
Oh god the quotes in Missingno/Squall/whoever are going to be ...Whatever and ... what a format. --- ~War~ |
FranzyvonKarma posted... I mean you just gave a serious response to "Mario gets 68% on Sephiroth" what is wrong with you are you Mumei again Mario would totally get 68% on Sephiroth now outside of gamefaqs |
Mario's
looked a lot worse since 2008 than he looked in 2005-7, when he was at
the top of his game. Now, Sephiroth has fallen a lot harder recently,
so that match looks close now. I'm still taking Seph over Mario because
I don't think Mario is at the level of Snake and Samus (yes, Samus!). I
picked Mario over Samus in 2005 too, but that was a direct match.
Plus, Mario actually looked as strong as Samus in 2005 indirectly, in
his other matches! That wasn't the case in 2004, and it hasn't been the
case since 2008. Mario's gotten a lot of SFF matches recently, which hides his strength and gives him lots of excuses for why he hasn't put up the kinds of performances that have become routine for Snake and Samus. --- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. |
You
guys are hysterical and adorable with how badly you want to convince
yourselves that Mario could beat Sephiroth. How many times do you need
to be taught the same lesson? --- Die young and save yourself. Brace for the G's, and fast heel-toe work. |
Judging
by how this board was acting the last time Mario faced Link,
Sephiroth's going to have to beat him a few more times before the lesson
sinks in. Prior to 2010, Mario had faced Link 7 times. He had never
ever managed to break 38%. One contest prior, Link had put up over 65%.
And yet, there were all these predictions for Mario to break 40%. --- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. |
Mario's most recent match without SFF is Mario/Big Boss, unless you want to go back to 2007. So Big Boss vs. Zelda and can Big Boss break 54% against Ryu? --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 49/62 Today's Picks: Tifa and Mario |
And
when Link beat Mario by 1-2% less than he had done in the previous
year's matches, people switched to talking about what a great show of
awesome power it was by Link. Well, it wasn't, he literally did worse
than he had done the previous year. It was only the 2nd halfway decent
performance Link had put up all year, and his big decline was finally
demonstrated for all to see when he did worse on Cloud in the final than
he'd done in 2006- and just 1% better than 2005. --- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. |
I
think Mario/Mega Man is a better gauge than Mario/Big Boss, mostly
because BB is so pic-dependent and theories abound of whether Mario
sapped Big Boss's Snake proxy Brawl support (yes. this is an actual
thing.). Mario/Mega Man should be the absolute maximum Mario should be able to put up on MM, and that's accounting for zero SFF at all, so it's a good ceiling for Mario. --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
ExThaNemesis posted... You guys are hysterical and adorable with how badly you want to convince yourselves that Mario could beat Sephiroth. How many times do you need to be taught the same lesson? No convincing needs to be done. Sephiroth just sucks now. Sorry man. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
Uh,
I don't think Cloud could put up those kinds of numbers on Mega Man
these days. Snake couldn't get close. You have to write off that match
as a lot of SFF. It's like Mario/Samus. Mario's never going to lose
to anything related to Nintendo except Link, and he's never going to
come close to Link. --- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. |
AxemRedRanger posted... ExThaNemesis posted...You guys are hysterical and adorable with how badly you want to convince yourselves that Mario could beat Sephiroth. How many times do you need to be taught the same lesson? isn't he a Sephiroth fanboy :lol |
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