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Xcarvenger posted...

Looks like 1028 votes have been removed from Cirno.

Looks like they were the British ones looking at Geolocation. Cirno went from having 39% of the vote there to 7%. In the South East region, which she previously won, she is listed as having 0%. She's still winning in the West Midlands though.

"Previously won" is an understatement. I still had the map open in another window from before the votes were removed:

South East:
Tifa Lockhart 1.4%
Cirno 97.76%
Chun-Li 0.84%

Um, yeah...that's about as obvious as you can get. Clearly a vote-stuffing scandal at work. As for the West Midlands, I couldn't help but notice that it had the same three sets of percentages, though attributed to different characters, as another region, the East. Seems like it's probably a minimal number of votes...

...yeah. You can get those percentages with a mere 13 voters. In the case of the West Midlands, it's 7 votes for Cirno, 4 for Tifa, and 2 for Chun-Li. Nothing more than a quirk of small sample sizes.

...And now I refreshed so that I could see the new ones. Forgot to check to see if percentages changed anywhere else.
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-LusterSoldier- posted...

Here are the before and after results for several different countries:

Ireland:

Tifa Lockheart 20.43%
Cirno 67.2%
Chun-Li 12.37%

Tifa Lockheart 43.18%
Cirno 30.68%
Chun-Li 26.14%

The UK:

Tifa Lockheart 43%
Cirno 39.08%
Chun-Li 17.92%

Tifa Lockheart 65.5%
Cirno 7.2%
Chun-Li 27.29%

Those were the only 2 countries where votes were removed. Strangely enough, no votes were removed from China. Before the votes were removed, there were 186 votes from Ireland. Now there are only 88 votes from Ireland. So a total of 98 votes were removed from Ireland.

Wait, you actually can see the number of votes from a country? Or are you just doing math via percentages?
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Bravo for Allen actually fighting stuffing! I thought he didn't care enough to bother.

Anyway, I think Snake and Mario are both stronger than Cloud now, though I'm much more confident in Snake than Mario.

Samus vs Cloud is tough to call.

I'd take Seph over MM, Sonic and Crono. MM is clearly the most debatable there, but I still feel like Seph takes that 1v1 in a 24 hour match.

BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

Most people didn't buy a Wii until Smash and Galaxy came out. It's the same for the Wii U. The only reason their sales are awful is because there's not a single worthwhile game on the system.

This isn't actually true. The Wii was selling out from shelves from the moment it came out.
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Number of stuffed votes for each hour of the match:

1:00 | 0
2:00 | 0
3:00 | 0
4:00 | 0
5:00 | 0
6:00 | 49
7:00 | 155
8:00 | 113
9:00 | 84
10:00 | 199
11:00 | 58
12:00 | 370

This information was obtained by using this data:

http://i.imgur.com/YujgoLf.png
http://i.imgur.com/6HTkDD3.png

The data you see in the second screenshot was obtained by viewing the source code of this page:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/map?id=5205

The data in the first screenshot is the data that existed in the source code of the above page prior to Bacon removing votes.

For the 2 screenshots, each data point represents a 6 minute update on the poll graphs. Here's an example using Cirno:

[["0.0", 83], ["0.1", 146], ["0.2", 189], ["0.3", 238], ["0.4", 292], ["0.5", 351], ["0.6", 393], ["0.7", 424], ["0.8", 465], ["0.9", 501], ["1.0", 534], ["1.1", 562], ["1.2", 594], ["1.3", 629], ["1.4", 663], ["1.5", 684], ["1.6", 716], ["1.7", 735], ["1.8", 754], ["1.9", 779]

"0.0" refers to the time of the update.

0.0 = 12:06 AM update
0.1 = 12:12 AM update
0.2 = 12:18 AM update
...
0.9 = 1:00 AM update
1.9 = 2:00 AM update
2.9 = 3:00 AM update
3.9 = 4:00 AM update
4.9 = 5:00 AM update
5.9 = 6:00 AM update
6.9 = 7:00 AM update
7.9 = 8:00 AM update
8.9 = 9:00 AM update
9.9 = 10:00 AM update
10.9 = 11:00 AM update
11.9 or 12.0 = 12:00 PM update

So using that data, I can create hourly trend charts if I wanted to.
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Using the updated vote total data for each character, here is what the hourly trend chart would look like with all of the stuffed votes removed:

Time | Tifa | Cirno | Chun-Li | Votes
1:00 | 62.14% | 9.62% | 28.25% | 5208
2:00 | 63.28% | 9.06% | 27.66% | 3069
3:00 | 62.76% | 10.62% | 26.62% | 2344
4:00 | 61.31% | 11.61% | 27.08% | 2016
5:00 | 62.84% | 10.58% | 26.58% | 1663
6:00 | 61.42% | 12.57% | 26.01% | 1488
7:00 | 64.15% | 11.40% | 24.45% | 1632
8:00 | 62.59% | 10.66% | 26.75% | 1895
9:00 | 63.87% | 10.15% | 25.98% | 2059
10:00 | 59.24% | 17.16% | 23.61% | 2279
11:00 | 59.65% | 13.71% | 26.64% | 2290
12:00 | 59.17% | 13.11% | 27.72% | 2197
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Ah, I see. So you can see the incoming votes using that. But then again, isn't that sort of like what creativename's updater does? Minus the part about adjusting the removed votes.

Did the math for the adjustment of the South West region. Looks like originally there had been 357 votes from that region, 349 of which were for Cirno; all of these were removed. Or possibly double those numbers if it really was only 98 votes removed from Ireland, since we've got over 1000 votes to account for and the only other region of England with removed votes still has some Cirno votes that were allowed to stay and wasn't even a terribly dominating win for Cirno in the first place.
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-LusterSoldier- posted...

Time | Tifa | Cirno | Chun-Li | Votes
8:00 | 62.59% | 10.66% | 26.75% | 1895
9:00 | 63.87% | 10.15% | 25.98% | 2059
10:00 | 59.24% | 17.16% | 23.61% | 2279
11:00 | 59.65% | 13.71% | 26.64% | 2290
12:00 | 59.17% | 13.11% | 27.72% | 2197

That just seems so out of place now!
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TsunamiXXVIII posted...

Wait, you actually can see the number of votes from a country? Or are you just doing math via percentages?

I am using the percentages from those 2 countries to figure out how many votes they have.


TsunamiXXVIII posted...

Did the math for the adjustment of the South West region. Looks like originally there had been 357 votes from that region, 349 of which were for Cirno; all of these were removed. Or possibly double those numbers if it really was only 98 votes removed from Ireland, since we've got over 1000 votes to account for and the only other region of England with removed votes still has some Cirno votes that were allowed to stay and wasn't even a terribly dominating win for Cirno in the first place.

Votes were also removed from England's North West region as well, so factor that into consideration.
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He probably missed a lot of stuffed votes. Because really I mean Cirno still has 30% in Ireland and a lot of European countries that's probably incorrect. Never mind that sore thumb China.
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From: Fayt_Esteed | #447
Underperformed - his opponents were PYRAMID HEAD and a frigging Animal Crossing character.

Not that I don't necessarily agree, but why are Animal Crossing characters considered so weak when their (current) game is so strong?
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From: Fayt_Esteed | #447
Underperformed - his opponents were PYRAMID HEAD and a frigging Animal Crossing character.

Not that I don't necessarily agree, but why are Animal Crossing characters considered so weak when their (current) game is so strong?

Animal Crossing fans hate Tom Nook, and for good reason.
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Yeah you can't really use a Nook boost because Pyramid Head was right on both their heels, and he's real bad fodder. The best comparison you can use with Dragonborn is he got 60% on Pyramid Head... and in the last contest he appeared in, Shadow the Hedgehog got 64% on Pyramid Head.

It doesn't make Dragonborn the worst of the worst or anything. He's just high fodder, and will get crushed as such next round.
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nkansas13 posted...

-hotdogturtle-- posted...

From: Fayt_Esteed | #447
Underperformed - his opponents were PYRAMID HEAD and a frigging Animal Crossing character.

Not that I don't necessarily agree, but why are Animal Crossing characters considered so weak when their (current) game is so strong?

Animal Crossing fans hate Tom Nook, and for good reason.

And yet, Dragonborn couldn't even get a blowout on a hated AC character who's looked awful every time he showed up in one of these things. That can only mean Dragonborn's fodder, and bad fodder at that.
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Karma Hunter posted...

Yeah you can't really use a Nook boost because Pyramid Head was right on both their heels, and he's real bad fodder. The best comparison you can use with Dragonborn is he got 60% on Pyramid Head... and in the last contest he appeared in, Shadow the Hedgehog got 64% on Pyramid Head.

It doesn't make Dragonborn the worst of the worst or anything. He's just high fodder, and will get crushed as such next round.

Pyramid Head boost!
why? I dunno

.....

yeah Dragonborn sucks

How much percentage are you guys expecting out of Dragonborn vs Yuna and Tifa?
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-LusterSoldier- posted...

Votes were also removed from England's North West region as well, so factor that into consideration.

Yeah, that was the "other region" that I was referring to.

Lopen posted...

He probably missed a lot of stuffed votes. Because really I mean Cirno still has 30% in Ireland and a lot of European countries that's probably incorrect. Never mind that sore thumb China.

I'll give you China as looking awfully suspicious, and a lot of those other green countries in Asia often have no votes coming out of them at all so those "100%" signs could range anywhere from a single voter to a further stuffed mountain, but most of those "other European countries" look more like LOL small sample sizes. Let's look at the ones that are actually green.

Ukraine: That's just 13 votes--7 for Cirno, 5 for Tifa, 1 for Chun-Li.
Belarus: Literally a perfect 25/50/25. 4 voters, maybe 8 or 12.
Romania: Looks like 18 votes to me: 7 for Cirno, 6 for Tifa, 5 for Chun-Li.
And another one with a "high" percentage, though not a win--Slovakia, 35.71% for Cirno--that's, what, 5/14? And Chun-Li didn't get a single vote there, so it might not be a ratio, just a 9-5 Tifa win.
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so apparently the latest thing that's actually a thing is...the phrase "this is actually a thing"

who started this

#worsethanhashtags
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But on another subject, what do you think about the upcoming Ganondorf/Guybrush/Max Payne battle? I feel like Ganondorf's pretty strong, he should be able to eat up a great enough percentage of the vote that Guybrush's legendary "extremely small and incredibly dedicated" fanbase could actually push him past the long-irrelevant Payne for second place. I mean, it won't quite be as bad as this match:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3451

But it's the same basic idea: strong winner, weak everything else, Guybrush's crazy fans who keep getting him ridiculously overseeded every tournament might actually be able to pull something off. Is this valid reasoning, or am I missing something?
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TsunamiXXVIII posted...

But on another subject, what do you think about the upcoming Ganondorf/Guybrush/Max Payne battle? I feel like Ganondorf's pretty strong, he should be able to eat up a great enough percentage of the vote that Guybrush's legendary "extremely small and incredibly dedicated" fanbase could actually push him past the long-irrelevant Payne for second place. I mean, it won't quite be as bad as this match:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3451

But it's the same basic idea: strong winner, weak everything else, Guybrush's crazy fans who keep getting him ridiculously overseeded every tournament might actually be able to pull something off. Is this valid reasoning, or am I missing something?

Admittedly, Max Payne is bad, but I seriously doubt he's "I'd consider frigging GUYBRUSH over him" bad.
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He'd probably need someone like Chester or Dancin' to actually beat someone.
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TsunamiXXVIII posted...

But on another subject, what do you think about the upcoming Ganondorf/Guybrush/Max Payne battle? I feel like Ganondorf's pretty strong, he should be able to eat up a great enough percentage of the vote that Guybrush's legendary "extremely small and incredibly dedicated" fanbase could actually push him past the long-irrelevant Payne for second place. I mean, it won't quite be as bad as this match:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3451

But it's the same basic idea: strong winner, weak everything else, Guybrush's crazy fans who keep getting him ridiculously overseeded every tournament might actually be able to pull something off. Is this valid reasoning, or am I missing something?

why the hell do they keep nominating Guybrush anyway if he just gets destroyed round 1 EVERY SINGLE TIME

Blame our European users for nominating Guybrush. Guybrush is a top tier character in Europe based on how much he dominates Europe. Guybrush got 34.27% against Vincent in Europe, compared to 23.56% worldwide. This kind of Guybrush domination in Europe is happening against Vincent, who is also strong in Europe (FFVII as a whole is strong in Europe).

Guybrush has the biggest difference in strength between Europe and the rest of the world. I bet if you put Guybrush against an FFVII character in a night match, the FFVII character would actually lose percentage during the Total Domination Zone (4:00 AM to 6:00 AM) because of Guybrush's god killer strength in Europe.
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-LusterSoldier- posted...

Blame our European users for nominating Guybrush. Guybrush is a top tier character in Europe based on how much he dominates Europe. Guybrush got 34.27% against Vincent in Europe, compared to 77.44% worldwide. This kind of Guybrush domination in Europe is happening against Vincent, who is also strong in Europe (FFVII as a whole is strong in Europe).

Guybrush has the biggest difference in strength between Europe and the rest of the world.

Guybrush got 77.44% on Vincent worldwide?
watch out Link, Guybrush is coming for you


epic typo :P

The typo has been fixed. I edited my post.
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It doesn't matter if the numbers are low they're still higher than they should be

And I wasn't even looking at the green ones I was just looking at the area as a whole. Cirno's got like 30%+ across the map over there.

That's generally better than Reimu (who was also rallied) had over there and she finished a good 7% higher than Cirno
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Match LXV: (6) Vivi vs. (13) Adam Jensen vs. (22) Marisa Kirisame

Previous Contest

Vivi – 2010
56.29% against Donkey Kong
55.79% against Altair
42.37% against Kirby

Adam Jensen – N/A
N/A

Marisa Kirisame – N/A
N/A

Analysis

We continue this streak of obvious winners with Vivi who is a solid mid-carder up against two characters likely to weak fodder. Even next round Vivi will run into the wall known as Mario where all he can hope to do is look a bit better due to LFF.

With the small rallies for Touhou characters the fight for second has become a bit interesting. I am not even going to guess where Marisa ranks in the Touhou universe, but the performances of Reimu and Cirno is impressive enough to consider her. The fans may try to vote stuff for her so hopefully SBAllen takes a look after that match as well.

I do not have much faith that Adam will have any strength. JC Denton looked even weaker this contest and while Adam is the lead of recently released Deus Ex game the series is just not the type of game played on GameFAQs. Like all of the other generic dudes we have seen Adam will be among the weakest within the bracket.

I honestly would not be surprised if Marisa won without a legit rally that is how weak I can see Adam Jensen being. Vivi will look like an absolute champ here and should easily break 60% and will likely approach the high 60s in the match.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Vivi > Marisa Kirisame and Adam Jensen

charmander6000’s Prediction: Vivi – 66.56%, Marisa Kirisame – 18.26%, Adam Jensen – 15.18%
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Hopefully SBAllen makes a topic about this.
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for reference Marisa is the second main character

and I think more popular than Reimu overall.

would be surprised if she turned out weaker than Reimu at least.
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Lopen posted...

It doesn't matter if the numbers are low they're still higher than they should be

And I wasn't even looking at the green ones I was just looking at the area as a whole. Cirno's got like 30%+ across the map over there.

That's generally better than Reimu (who was also rallied) had over there and she finished a good 7% higher than Cirno

There were rallies on 4chan, which is why you see Cirno getting close to 20% in countries such as Norway, Sweden, Finland, Germany, and Spain.

Russia looks suspicious as well, with 31.76% for Cirno.
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I sent Allen feedback a few hours ago. He might have removed the stuffed votes regardless but if you think there's very obvious stuffing, sending him feedback pointing it out is probably a good idea.

Message From AxemRedRanger on 08/09/2013

Hello.

I noticed that Cirno's results have her at 39% of the vote in the United Kingdom. Based on prior data and common sense, this strikes me as extremely unlikely to be a legitimate performance and that there are probably at least several hundred cheated votes in that match originating from the U.K.

While it did not change the result in this instance, it has me concerned about future matches, particularly the next match, as it contains a character from the same franchise.as Cirno.

Should the same thing happen again in the Vivi/Adam Jensen/Marisa match but this time it changes who gets second place, will some action be taken to remove the illegitimate votes, or are said votes, if in similar circumstances to how they were in Cirno's match, too difficult to be distinguished and therefore must stand?

Message From GameFAQs on 08/09/2013

Your suspicions are correct - but the stuffed votes did not impact the standings, and will be taken care of.
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Score-Brackets-% Right
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56------52----------100.00
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49------263--------95.44
48------406--------94.33
47------508--------89.57
46------663--------88.39
45------874--------86.96
44------1054------85.20
43------1105------83.98
42------1158------82.04
41------1163------80.14
40------1085------78.71
39------978--------73.11
38------804--------69.90
37------716--------68.02
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35------535--------61.87
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32------293--------58.02
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30------212--------54.72
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28------140--------52.14
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26------81----------40.74
25------75----------45.33
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22------41----------41.46
21------29----------41.38
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19------13----------38.46
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17------15----------26.67
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An easy match. Everyone in the Top 430 gets it right.

No one fell off the Top 49.
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TsunamiXXVIII posted...

But on another subject, what do you think about the upcoming Ganondorf/Guybrush/Max Payne battle? I feel like Ganondorf's pretty strong, he should be able to eat up a great enough percentage of the vote that Guybrush's legendary "extremely small and incredibly dedicated" fanbase could actually push him past the long-irrelevant Payne for second place. I mean, it won't quite be as bad as this match:

Have we ever actually seen evidence of a non-linear "dedicated" fanbase for Guybrush? As far as I recall Guybrush has always stunk up the joint.
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The problem with Guybrush is getting a day match, which will have a lower percentage of votes from Europe compared to a night match. But a day match also there will be a lot of Europeans online to vote at the start of the match, though.
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Yeah I went with Payne solely because it's day match. I know Guybrush shouldn't scare me, but he does. Might have pulled the trigger on him getting 2nd if it was a night match.
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Jensen should be horribly horribly weak...but Touhou pre-stuffing is horribly weak as well. Hard to pick who finishes last, I want to pick both of them for 3rd!

We'll get to see just how high Vivi can go. I don't know if anyone except Mewtwo has had competition this bad.

-LusterSoldier- posted...

The problem with Guybrush is getting a day match, which will have a lower percentage of votes from Europe compared to a night match. But a day match also there will be a lot of Europeans online to vote at the start of the match, though.

That should spell the end for Guybrush, though "game name factor" should be enough to win Max Payne the match - even though Payne has likely dropped off a cliff. But just being someone voters have actually heard of should be enough to beat Guybrush.
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Jensen will get the coveted anti-mage voting bloc
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All this Marisa support is making me feel like she's gonna blow it real bad and everyone will just be like "oh".
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Surskit posted...

All this Marisa support is making me feel like she's gonna blow it real bad and everyone will just be like "oh".

Yeah, I'm starting to get that feeling too. I'm going down with this ship though.

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It's kinda weird to me that so many people are going for the Touhou. JC Denton could get 2nd there, and he's no Jensen.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.

That's what rally's do. They scare people. Hell, look at all the people who picked Teemo 2nd. I don't think the Expert bracket even moved, except for like 2 people.
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Yeah but we just saw Bacon destroy last night's 'rally'. And no one seems to be budging.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.

Surskit posted...

All this Marisa support is making me feel like she's gonna blow it real bad and everyone will just be like "oh".

TBH, I'm starting to feel that way as well.
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Sorozone posted...

That's what rally's do. They scare people. Hell, look at all the people who picked Teemo 2nd. I don't think the Expert bracket even moved, except for like 2 people.

Actually L-Block > Teemo > Palutena advanced you! At least it did for me!
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I just have Marisa > Jensen because I'd rather take the 0 over a non-rally or a failed rally, then getting burned by a successful rally. I don't even know if that makes sense.

Of course I could always banked, but banking is for losers. I haven't done it so far, I'm not going to start now.
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KamikazePotato posted...

It's kinda weird to me that so many people are going for the Touhou. JC Denton could get 2nd there, and he's no Jensen.

After the horrible showings new game characters (especially from western games) have been putting up, I wouldn't put it past Jensen to bomb in this match. The low votals have been devastating for characters from mainstream games.
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