Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1099

#451 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/8/2013 9:33:34 PM | message detail
I have a gut feeling Jensen will look better than most people think. Which isn't saying much since he'll still suck. But he should beat Marisa.
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#452 | Karma Hunter (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/8/2013 9:36:49 PM | message detail
Also I'm not saying Tifa doesn't easily have the potential to beat someone like Crono or Sonic! But this match shouldn't be held up as proof of that. If she goes out and loses to Auron in a couple of rounds her support's gonna collapse like a sack of potatoes.
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#453 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 8/8/2013 9:37:15 PM | message detail
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Well, I think we've gotta give Tifa the edge over Vincent as FFVII's #3. She holds up better to SFF and I think she'd have a better shot at taking out Ganondorf, the B-list Mario trio, and the strongest Pokemon. Vincent might have an edge against Squall and Auron though, but like... literally just those two characters.


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#454 | xp1337 | Posted 8/8/2013 9:37:55 PM | message detail
Yeah, I have no doubt that Jensen beats Marisa with no interference. I was kind of hoping Cirno would come out here with a rally and look decent like Reimu did because that would be good enough to take 2nd I think, and it's an upset I wouldn't mind taking.

If Cirno doesn't do anything I probably stay with Jensen and play it safe, but I'll have to think about it some more.
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#455 | creativename | Posted 8/8/2013 9:38:33 PM | message detail
BK_Sheikah00 posted...
Rydia, Celes, Terra, Aerith, Rinoa if you forgive the SFF. And now Yuna and Tifa. FF girls have looked pretty good this contest. Maybe Rikku can beat ? block...

I have ? Block in my bracket, but I never even noticed Rikku was there. As soon as I saw she was there I wished I could change. Even before these last two matches I was planning on either taking Rikku in expert or no picking.

? Block can still win, but he's going to have to be legit strong to do so. I can't see Rikku just rolling over.
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#456 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 8/8/2013 9:38:37 PM | message detail
Sorozone posted...
So, Jensen > Marisa?

Or is Marisa likely to get rallied?


This definitely makes me feel uncertain about it, but Cirno was always going to be the weakest of the three Touhou characters in the bracket. Reimu and Marisa are the main characters; Cirno's a fan favorite, enough that she actually got a gaiden game where she was the lone playable character, but still ultimately a side character who is completely absent from at least half the games in the series.
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#457 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/8/2013 9:41:39 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Also I'm not saying Tifa doesn't easily have the potential to beat someone like Crono or Sonic! But this match shouldn't be held up as proof of that. If she goes out and loses to Auron in a couple of rounds her support's gonna collapse like a sack of potatoes.


or like a poorly made bra.

Anyway we're all probably overreacting, Chun-Li just got a lot weaker or something and Dragonborn still has a chance =(
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#458 | Karma Hunter (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/8/2013 9:42:55 PM | message detail
ExThaNemesis posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Also I'm not saying Tifa doesn't easily have the potential to beat someone like Crono or Sonic! But this match shouldn't be held up as proof of that. If she goes out and loses to Auron in a couple of rounds her support's gonna collapse like a sack of potatoes.


or like a poorly made bra.

Anyway we're all probably overreacting, Chun-Li just got a lot weaker or something and Dragonborn still has a chance =(


lol let's not go crazy here

(although this has happened before in a random berserking overperformance too, Cloud/Vyse 2k4 versus Tifa/Vyse 2k5 and people were taking her to easily beat Sonic that year before Luigi shot all that down <_<)
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#459 | GloryChaos | Posted 8/8/2013 9:43:04 PM | message detail
Voted Cirno since this is the only time I'll ever be able to do so. Hey TRE, did you get the first vote again?
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#460 | Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 8/8/2013 9:43:50 PM | message detail
Dragondud is totally screwed



Also Chunners was always bad in this.
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#461 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/8/2013 9:44:35 PM | message detail
Blue is going to slaughter his second round match even worse if this idea holds.

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#462 | MoogleKupo141 | Posted 8/8/2013 9:45:36 PM | message detail
so what's the deal with ? block going to be

does anyone find it actually funny
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#463 | creativename | Posted 8/8/2013 9:46:59 PM | message detail | (edited)
Dragonborn's only shot at coming in anywhere but last was for Yuna>MC and then Tifa SFFs Tuna to dust. And for Dragonborn to come in at the highest end of his range.

He's going to get killed by even badly SFFed Yuna now though.

Also Tifa straight laughing at those who were saying she doesn't have FF7 trends. So much for that notion.
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#464 | ZinsanityCraze | Posted 8/8/2013 9:51:13 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3694

I know lol 12 ways but Chun-Li really isn't a bastion of strength. She lost badly to Simon Belmont, Morrigan(Dragon Age) and Prince of Persia.

Anyone who thinks Tifa is within striking distance of Sonic and Megaman will be disappointed when she loses to Auron in a straight matchup.
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#465 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/8/2013 9:53:53 PM | message detail
Vincent sucking may have been a KOS-MOS overperformance. Like I mentioned earlier, anime looking female characters have all looked strong.
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#466 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 8/8/2013 9:54:18 PM | message detail
ZinsanityCraze posted...
I know lol 12 ways


That's where the post should end
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#467 | Karma Hunter (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/8/2013 9:55:39 PM | message detail
ZinsanityCraze posted...
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3694

I know lol 12 ways but Chun-Li really isn't a bastion of strength. She lost badly to Simon Belmont, Morrigan(Dragon Age) and Prince of Persia.

Anyone who thinks Tifa is within striking distance of Sonic and Megaman will be disappointed when she loses to Auron in a straight matchup.


No no no this still isn't right. Chun Li would kick all their asses. She's not fodder, either!

Thunder Thighs isn't hugely strong, but she's got one of the worst possible matchups for her. Give her a guy like Nathan Drake and she'd clean his clock. Tifa's just outscoring what she should be getting by a handful of points.
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#468 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/8/2013 9:56:14 PM | message detail
If Vincent goes out and matches Ganondorf's performance on Mewtwo, I'll blame Vincent's round 1 performance on KOS-MOS being stronger than her last contest appearance.
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#469 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/8/2013 10:02:09 PM | message detail
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
Vincent sucking may have been a KOS-MOS overperformance. Like I mentioned earlier, anime looking female characters have all looked strong.


If this theory holds any water it's good news for Rikku backers. Which is a group I am starting to wish I was a part of. I just don't see GameFAQs voting Cube, then Block back to back.
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#470 | Karma Hunter (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/8/2013 10:03:57 PM | message detail
Despite everything I've said though I am going to be so sad if this ends up exceeding Sephiroth/Midna or (please no) Cloud/Prinny levels of destruction. Just because the overperformance can be seen coming doesn't mean it doesn't hurt. :(
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#471 | JJH777 | Posted 8/8/2013 10:04:30 PM | message detail
How has Tifa missed so many contests?
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#472 | StarStormScream | Posted 8/8/2013 10:06:07 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
ZinsanityCraze posted...
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3694

I know lol 12 ways but Chun-Li really isn't a bastion of strength. She lost badly to Simon Belmont, Morrigan(Dragon Age) and Prince of Persia.

Anyone who thinks Tifa is within striking distance of Sonic and Megaman will be disappointed when she loses to Auron in a straight matchup.


No no no this still isn't right. Chun Li would kick all their asses. She's not fodder, either!

Thunder Thighs isn't hugely strong, but she's got one of the worst possible matchups for her. Give her a guy like Nathan Drake and she'd clean his clock. Tifa's just outscoring what she should be getting by a handful of points.


This is what upsets me as a Street Fighter fan in these things. Only twice has a "not-Ryu" been in a debatable match: Bison/Diablo & Ken/Wesker. They could give us great early round matches but Ceej & Bacon just loves to toss them into matches with high-tier opponents :(
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#473 | Xuxon | Posted 8/8/2013 10:10:28 PM | message detail
From: JJH777 | Posted: 8/9/2013 1:04:30 AM | #471
How has Tifa missed so many contests?

she's only missed one since CJayC lifted the cap
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#474 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/8/2013 10:10:40 PM | message detail
StarStormScream posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
ZinsanityCraze posted...
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3694

I know lol 12 ways but Chun-Li really isn't a bastion of strength. She lost badly to Simon Belmont, Morrigan(Dragon Age) and Prince of Persia.

Anyone who thinks Tifa is within striking distance of Sonic and Megaman will be disappointed when she loses to Auron in a straight matchup.


No no no this still isn't right. Chun Li would kick all their asses. She's not fodder, either!

Thunder Thighs isn't hugely strong, but she's got one of the worst possible matchups for her. Give her a guy like Nathan Drake and she'd clean his clock. Tifa's just outscoring what she should be getting by a handful of points.


This is what upsets me as a Street Fighter fan in these things. Only twice has a "not-Ryu" been in a debatable match: Bison/Diablo & Ken/Wesker. They could give us great early round matches but Ceej & Bacon just loves to toss them into matches with high-tier opponents :(


Chun Li probably had the best bracket placement she'll ever get in 2006, and couldn't manage to beat Yuna.
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#475 | GloryChaos | Posted 8/8/2013 10:10:43 PM | message detail
Actually, 9% for Cirno is perfect. Don't vote for her anymore. Just keep her around that area.
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#476 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/8/2013 10:11:41 PM | message detail
I don't think Drake is that bad, let's give the dude some credit. He actually did quite respectably against Boss, and that 2010 match looks even better now that we've seen Boss go out and dominate. Uncharted 2 did pretty well for itself in Game of the Decade, and Pac-Man, a character who is made to beat guys like Drake, couldn't get the job done. Chun-Li might beat him, but I think his performances have at least warranted some debate in matches like that. Really doubt she's cleaning his clock.

Also, he should be stronger now than in 2010. Uncharted 3 wasn't as well received as 2, but it was hyped with commercials and promotions galore. Drake is pretty recognizable now and I think he'll do better against Blue than most people would expect (especially after Mewtwo and Pikachu put the PokeFear of god into the board).
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#477 | Sorozone | Posted 8/8/2013 10:13:04 PM | message detail
#478 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/8/2013 10:13:39 PM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
I don't think Drake is that bad, let's give the dude some credit. He actually did quite respectably against Boss, and that 2010 match looks even better now that we've seen Boss go out and dominate. Uncharted 2 did pretty well for itself in Game of the Decade, and Pac-Man, a character who is made to beat guys like Drake, couldn't get the job done. Chun-Li might beat him, but I think his performances have at least warranted some debate in matches like that. Really doubt she's cleaning his clock.

Also, he should be stronger now than in 2010. Uncharted 3 wasn't as well received as 2, but it was hyped with commercials and promotions galore. Drake is pretty recognizable now and I think he'll do better against Blue than most people would expect (especially after Mewtwo and Pikachu put the PokeFear of god into the board).


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#479 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/8/2013 10:17:12 PM | message detail
I actually want to see it since I've put all my chips on Pokemon this contest.

Well, all except for Nathan f***ing Drake. Of all the people, I'm trusting HIM to be the one guy to beat Pokemon. I have Squall, Crono, Zelda, Dante, and Vincent all losing but Drake winning.

...I should have written this post 40 days ago and emailed it to myself.
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#480 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/8/2013 10:17:23 PM | message detail
I'm not really thinking Mewtwo's performance in round 1 means much - I think that if other contests are any indication, he might fold like a bad poker player once real competition comes knocking. BUT... if he manages to scare Vincent at least...
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#481 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/8/2013 10:21:32 PM | message detail
FFVII doing bad this contest my ass
#482 | Karma Hunter (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/8/2013 10:24:01 PM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
I don't think Drake is that bad, let's give the dude some credit. He actually did quite respectably against Boss, and that 2010 match looks even better now that we've seen Boss go out and dominate. Uncharted 2 did pretty well for itself in Game of the Decade, and Pac-Man, a character who is made to beat guys like Drake, couldn't get the job done. Chun-Li might beat him, but I think his performances have at least warranted some debate in matches like that. Really doubt she's cleaning his clock.


Cleaning clock meaning like, 53-55%. And I'd take the over on 53 for sure, Chun Li has Pac-Man's universal recognizability (on GameFAQs, at least) with added bonus that people actually care about her. That's not a knock on Drake. Chun Li is not weak. It's her facing Bowser in the year that Ryu bombed like crazy and the lol female bracket that get people thinking that - and now, this match.

That's a lot of bad luck, to be sure, which engenders skepticism - but as a thought exercise, imagine what you'd expect Ryu to get on Bowser today and adjust Chun Li's stock up proportionally. I think she deserves a real fighting shot at midcard matches at any rate - not being fed to Boobs Mcgee who's one-upping her at every angle.
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#483 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 8/8/2013 10:24:51 PM | message detail
So Rikku/?-Block is a day match. Does that hurt her?
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#484 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/8/2013 10:27:34 PM | message detail
Rikku should be hurt by the day match. Yuna had a really bad day vote in her match, which was even worse than Claire's day vote.
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#485 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/8/2013 10:27:40 PM | message detail
Well if the Street Fighter tiers of Ryu >> Ken > Chun are to be believed, she's a step below the likes of Ken and Wesker, and I don't see why Drake can't hang with the likes of those guys. Boss is probably right around that level, after all.
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#486 | LordoftheMorons | Posted 8/8/2013 10:28:54 PM | message detail
I'm definitely feeling pretty bad about my ? Block > Rikku pick. That and Pit > Cecil mean another two points gone, probably (and then I guess Wario could blow his match for a third point).
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#487 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/8/2013 10:29:40 PM | message detail
LordoftheMorons posted...
I'm definitely feeling pretty bad about my ? Block > Rikku pick. That and Pit > Cecil mean another two points gone, probably (and then I guess Wario could blow his match for a third point).


I have all of those picks and Wario is the only one I have remote confidence in at this point.
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#488 | LordoftheMorons | Posted 8/8/2013 10:31:01 PM | message detail
Does anyone even like Wario
I'm just hoping Creeper sucks
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#489 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/8/2013 10:31:47 PM | message detail
You've lost confidence in the Mario Block? Rikku has to beat it in a day match (bad for Rikku) while dealing with another attractive female RPG character which makes the block stand out like crazy (BAD for Rikku).
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#490 | LordoftheMorons | Posted 8/8/2013 10:33:07 PM | message detail
FF females have been looking pretty good! I guess we'll see how well Missingno and WCC do; maybe they'll ease my fears.
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#491 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/8/2013 10:35:34 PM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
You've lost confidence in the Mario Block? Rikku has to beat it in a day match (bad for Rikku) while dealing with another attractive female RPG character which makes the block stand out like crazy (BAD for Rikku).


I get the feeling Lyndis is going to be mostly a nonfactor.
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#492 | Karma Hunter (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/8/2013 10:36:51 PM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
Well if the Street Fighter tiers of Ryu >> Ken > Chun are to be believed, she's a step below the likes of Ken and Wesker, and I don't see why Drake can't hang with the likes of those guys. Boss is probably right around that level, after all.


It's not often I see people estimating MGS characters higher than me! I'd be pleased as ever-loving punch if Boss could hang with the likes of Ken and post-RE5 Wesker. Ganondorf got 63.8% on Ken, Luigi is projected to get 67.5% on The Boss based on Luigi/Cube and Cube/Boss, and I take Ganondorf > Luigi at least indirectly any day of the week.
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#493 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/8/2013 10:39:20 PM | message detail
Ganondorf would have done better with a better picture, let's not forget!
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#494 | Karma Hunter (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/8/2013 10:46:47 PM | message detail | (edited)
ChenKenichiFan posted...
Ganondorf would have done better with a better picture, let's not forget!


Man Ganondorf/Ken was a ridiculous picture all around... but if we're talking to the tune of *that* much percent, I don't see why people aren't hopping on this TJ(umping out of her shirt)F!

Point is I'd be extremely sketchy taking The Boss over Chun Li. If I did it'd only be out of MGS fanboyism.

Edit: Keep in mind, Tifa tripled The Boss in the stupid as f*** female bracket. It's just that unlike Chun Li, Boss's fans have given her the opportunity to return and prove just how dumb the female bracket really was.
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#495 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/8/2013 10:44:14 PM | message detail
Hmmm... I'd take Boss and I'm probably a bigger Street Fighter fan than you. That'd be a really fun match in any case.
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#496 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/8/2013 10:51:32 PM | message detail
Just get this topic to 500 please
#497 | Karma Hunter (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/8/2013 10:52:41 PM | message detail
Actually, assuming a constant Boss, using Tifa/The Boss and Luigi/Cube + Cube/Boss roughly means that Tifa would score 61% on Luigi.

I think it's fairly obvious Tifa overperformed on Boss. Same principle here (I may be getting too cute with things, the picture may not even matter in that case, though it certainly isn't helping).
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#498 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/8/2013 10:55:53 PM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
Just get this topic to 500 please


Year of Luigi, all comparisons made through previous results are invalid

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#499 | creativename | Posted 8/8/2013 11:10:03 PM | message detail
Tifa is one merciless b***** tonight.
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#500 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 8/8/2013 11:10:26 PM | message detail
Boobs
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