Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1098

#301 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 8/7/2013 10:30:15 PM | message detail
Lopen posted...
I don't recall negative reaction to Halo 4. I don't recall much any reaction to Halo 4 aside from reserved praise. I think saying Halo fans hated it is just trying to spin the lack of hype around the game into hate.


I don't think people hated it. But it was just kinda underwhelming. The hype wasn't there like it was for Halo 3, and the game was solid but unexceptional. That seemed to be the feeling amongst most of the people I ever talked to.
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#302 | pjbasis | Posted 8/7/2013 10:30:39 PM | message detail
Dude I forgot another character was in Dissidia.

Yuna confirmed
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#303 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/7/2013 10:31:38 PM | message detail
Lopen posted...
I don't recall negative reaction to Halo 4. I don't recall much any reaction to Halo 4 aside from reserved praise. I think saying Halo fans hated it is just trying to spin the lack of hype around the game into hate.


I should clarify. The singleplayer was received fine, though not exactly with high praise, but the multiplayer has received very negative reception from what I've seen. The game can't even crack the XBL top 5 even though it came out last year which shows the userbase dropped it quicker than they ever have in the past.

Now it's arguable if adverse reaction to MP would impact Chief.
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#304 | pjbasis | Posted 8/7/2013 10:32:14 PM | message detail
Heck, Vaan might be the strongest FFXII character now
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#305 | Achromatic | Posted 8/7/2013 10:32:37 PM | message detail
pjbasis posted...
Heck, Vaan might be the strongest FFXII character now


Let's not say things we can't take back.
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#306 | Xuxon | Posted 8/7/2013 10:32:41 PM | message detail
From: LeonhartFour | Posted: 8/8/2013 1:29:34 AM | #300
Yuna was in a game in 2011!

Yuna was in a game in 2013!
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#307 | ZFS | Posted 8/7/2013 10:32:55 PM | message detail
Vaan I don't think so
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#308 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/7/2013 10:32:58 PM | message detail
pjbasis posted...
Heck, Vaan might be the strongest FFXII character now


Gross get this outta here

Vaan was so far below Balthier in 2007 that I doubt even Dissidia would get him up there. I'd take Gabranth over Vaan if I wanted a Dissidia rep from XII.
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#309 | pjbasis | Posted 8/7/2013 10:33:12 PM | message detail
Dissidia hasn't been wrong yet!
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#310 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/7/2013 10:33:54 PM | message detail
Add to the list of characters we NEVER NEED TO SEE AGAIN:

Vaan
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#311 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/7/2013 10:34:03 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Yuna was in a game in 2011!


If I didn't know this, 95% of GameFAQs also wouldn't know this.

The problem with new video games is that the originality is kind of gone for the most part, and the people buying video games are your 13 year old Call of Duty XBL teenagers. Personally, I haven't played many new games in the last year since I find it hard to invest a large chunk of time to playing a single game. Most of my gaming nowadays are a Dota 2 match or 2 a day, the occasional playthrough of a SNES game, Brawl with friends when we can get together, and FFXIV with friends that I played FFXI with.
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#312 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/7/2013 10:34:08 PM | message detail
Dissidia boost is actually an Old Square, and FF9, boost.

Get with the program folks.
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#313 | ZFS | Posted 8/7/2013 10:34:49 PM | message detail | (edited)
Dissidia boost strikes me as something that's not actually a thing. Just seems more like a userbase shift than people realizing old FF characters exist because of a PSP fighting game.
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#314 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/7/2013 10:34:45 PM | message detail
AlecTrevelyan006 posted...
Lopen posted...
I don't recall negative reaction to Halo 4. I don't recall much any reaction to Halo 4 aside from reserved praise. I think saying Halo fans hated it is just trying to spin the lack of hype around the game into hate.


I don't think people hated it. But it was just kinda underwhelming. The hype wasn't there like it was for Halo 3, and the game was solid but unexceptional. That seemed to be the feeling amongst most of the people I ever talked to.


You'd be hard pressed to find another game that matched the hype and marketing push that Halo 3 had. Even Mass Effect 3 wasn't as big of a launch.
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#315 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/7/2013 10:34:52 PM | message detail
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
If I didn't know this, 95% of GameFAQs also wouldn't know this.


I don't think you're quite in step as you think you are!
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#316 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/7/2013 10:36:00 PM | message detail | (edited)
MegatokyoEd posted...
Dissidia boost is actually an Old Square, and FF9, boost.

Get with the program folks.


No way! Squall can break the Noble Nine now that he has Dissidia (and Theatrhythm!) on his side.
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#317 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/7/2013 10:36:43 PM | message detail
ZFS posted...
Dissidia boost strikes me as something that's not actually a thing. Just seems more like a userbase shift than people realizing old FF characters exist because of a PSP fighting game.


Gonna agree with HM here. I find it very hard that a PSP exclusive, single player.... fighting game? caused the boosts we've seen. I'd sooner blame it on the rise of IOS/Virtual Console/PSN re-releases.
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#318 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/7/2013 10:37:22 PM | message detail
Hmm, I'm not as stoked on the KOS-MOS performance on Vincent now that I've gotten a chance to go back and glance through some other matches. He let Falco Lombardi do almost as well in 2008 (and we were calling for his head for that, too!). It might not be indicative of anything, though I think the assumption still has to be an FF7 drop so far.
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#319 | HaRRicH | Posted 8/7/2013 10:37:32 PM | message detail
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
In a debatable match, pick the character that best answers the question "What have you done for me lately?"


Fair for this match, but don't be surprised if the answer is "tried to take away my right to privacy and used games" instead of "released Halo 4." That is significantly bigger news for gamers -- just got to see if/how gamers associate it to MC.
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#320 | jacko_vdz | Posted 8/7/2013 10:37:37 PM | message detail
To people who've played Ghost Trick, how strong do you think Sissel is going to be? Is he as likable as Missile? Does he havea shot at Corvo? Likely to be rallied? Just going over my expert picks and was wondering if there was a consensus for that.
#321 | pjbasis | Posted 8/7/2013 10:38:03 PM | message detail
If Dissidia ever got a console release, forget it.

The Noble Nine IS Cloud, Sephiroth, Squall, Kefka, Auron (he'd get in), Tifa, Kefka, Tidus, Terra
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#322 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/7/2013 10:38:18 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
MegatokyoEd posted...
Dissidia boost is actually an Old Square, and FF9, boost.

Get with the program folks.


No way! Squall can break the Noble Nine now that he has Dissidia (and Theatrhythm!) on his side.


Obviously the real boost is being DLC in the iOS All the Bravest game. Explains Celes' boost perfectly.
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#323 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/7/2013 10:38:47 PM | message detail
#324 | pjbasis | Posted 8/7/2013 10:39:01 PM | message detail
No that's not a mistake

Also Corvo is bound to be bottom of the barrel so Sissel got that
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#325 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 8/7/2013 10:39:49 PM | message detail
Dissidia's piracy rate was absolutely gigantic last I heard. It wouldn't surprise me if it actually has a decent playrate on this site.
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#326 | pjbasis | Posted 8/7/2013 10:40:08 PM | message detail
Also Link was removed from the bracket
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#327 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/7/2013 10:40:34 PM | message detail
Dissidia's also a multiplayer game, if anyone was confused on that.
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#328 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/7/2013 10:40:39 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Hmm, I'm not as stoked on the KOS-MOS performance on Vincent now that I've gotten a chance to go back and glance through some other matches. He let Falco Lombardi do almost as well in 2008 (and we were calling for his head for that, too!). It might not be indicative of anything, though I think the assumption still has to be an FF7 drop so far.


FFVII underwhelming in matches it should dominate isn't a recent thing, after all! FFVII has always proven its worth against characters with actual strength.

Of course, it's underperforming more and more each year, and eventually, it's going to catch up to them, but it ain't gonna be Mewtwo who takes advantage of it!
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#329 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/7/2013 10:41:26 PM | message detail
Sissel will be much weaker than Missile. Missile probably got a lot of votes from people who've never played Ghost Trick. Sissel won't be quite so lucky.
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#330 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/7/2013 10:42:18 PM | message detail
Sissel would likely do better if he had his real form as a pic.
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#331 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/7/2013 10:42:38 PM | message detail
Are you guys still trying to tell me that wasn't the Missile from Phoenix Wright
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#332 | Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 8/7/2013 10:42:45 PM | message detail
Oh man, Dragonborn is a Dragondud :(
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#333 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/7/2013 10:51:58 PM | message detail
HaRRicH posted...
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
In a debatable match, pick the character that best answers the question "What have you done for me lately?"


Fair for this match, but don't be surprised if the answer is "tried to take away my right to privacy and used games" instead of "released Halo 4." That is significantly bigger news for gamers -- just got to see if/how gamers associate it to MC.


I don't know, I still have a hard time believing that the voting public still care about the Xbox fiasco enough to anti-vote an unrelated character. This is like implying the Sony 2006 press conference (599 US Dollars!) resulted in a Cloud drop because FF7 was on a Sony console.
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#334 | Sorozone | Posted 8/7/2013 10:54:59 PM | message detail
Yeah personally I don't buy into the whole backlash thing in hurting Master Chief. If it does it'll be very minimal, I think he just is going to be weaker. I don't think Halo 4 will serve as any kind of boost either, it was the first one without Bungie behind it. It got admirable reviews, but as whole, you could just tell it didn't have much hype going up to its release, nor after the game came out.
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#335 | yoshi7cw3 | Posted 8/7/2013 10:56:10 PM | message detail
Sissel's "coolness" really comes through in the latter parts of the game. Missile is more of the lovable mascot character and is probably much stronger, especially because of the casual appeal. I still think Sissel has enough to take second although that might just be my own preference/bias.
#336 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/7/2013 11:08:08 PM | message detail
I kinda feel like there's a possibility that the Xbox One debacle will make people reminisce on the good times for Microsoft, but then again I was watching LPs of the first Splinter Cell and Halo games a while after and I just noted the irony of how I was doing that right after the Xbox One debacle. I still feel that it's not completely out of the question though.
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#337 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/7/2013 11:10:10 PM | message detail
yoshi7cw3 posted...
Sissel's "coolness" really comes through in the latter parts of the game. Missile is more of the lovable mascot character and is probably much stronger, especially because of the casual appeal. I still think Sissel has enough to take second although that might just be my own preference/bias.


I think Sissel will take 2nd there. Corvo will be WEAK. Literally the only thing going in Corvo's favor is him pointing a knife at voters, and I have a good feeling that people would rather vote for someone with a big smile than someone who's facing forward pointing a knife.
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#338 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 8/7/2013 11:29:13 PM | message detail
You know what this match reminds me a lot of?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4120
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#339 | hellfire104 | Posted 8/7/2013 11:48:08 PM | message detail
I see that MC is the underdog against Yuna by Guru selection but I really think that with the day vote, MC should win.

Also, didn't Auron seem a little weak in his match? That may not bode well for the FFX chars as a whole?
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#340 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/7/2013 11:49:00 PM | message detail
Dissidia console release hell yeah let's do this
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#341 | xp1337 | Posted 8/7/2013 11:50:23 PM | message detail
Roxas gives Auron some cover there unless you totally dismiss the idea that Roxas had an impact on Auron and even then IIRC Auron isn't too far off of where he'd be projected.

I'm sticking with Yuna but I could see Chief take this.
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#342 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/7/2013 11:50:55 PM | message detail
#343 | creativename | Posted 8/8/2013 12:17:43 AM | message detail | (edited)
All this talk about MC and XBone. XBone backlash is going to have nothing to do with Chief...Chief's problem is that he hasn't been iconic in a while. If he actually was iconic and still represent Microsoft, that would probably be better for him, not worse.

He had a game for the first time in years, and as others covered Halo 4 wasn't hyped at all compared to Halo 3 and has fallen under the radar post-release. I have a very hard time seeing Chief maintaining even his lost-to-Hayabusa strength.

If anything, his best shot here is that Yuna has a X-2 pic, and X-2 is universally reviled. I think she'll be OK with that because X-2 is largely forgotten, and so people might not associate the pic with the game and just think "Yuna" rather than "X-2 Yuna".
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#344 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2013 12:22:23 AM | message detail | (edited)
Most FFX fans pretend X-2 never happened, so even a X-2 pic won't really affect her. It'll do the job of getting the indifferent voters to vote for her, maybe, so it's fine, I guess.
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#345 | xp1337 | Posted 8/8/2013 12:23:39 AM | message detail
Honestly, I'd be feeling really nervous if I was hinging my Yuna pick on MC suffering from an XBone backlash. Maybe that happens, maybe it doesn't, but that is not the kind of thing I'd be comfortable hinging a match on.
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#346 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2013 12:25:18 AM | message detail
I'm not really "hinging" on it. I'd have picked Yuna to win even without it. It just basically guarantees that we won't be dealing with a stronger Chief than 2010.
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#347 | xp1337 | Posted 8/8/2013 12:29:15 AM | message detail
Does it? Granted, I don't think MC would suffer too much from any backlash, but I could see Halo 4 having a bigger positive effect than a potential backlash could take away leading to a stronger Chief compared to 2010.

I just don't think any of that will matter and that Yuna will win without needing to rely on intangibles, so I'm with you there!
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#348 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2013 12:32:05 AM | message detail
Well, if the Xbone stuff had gone off well and people were really excited about it, it could have some effect on Chief. Even with the damage control Microsoft has done, at best people are just, "Well, at least it's not AS bad as it was."
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#349 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/8/2013 12:37:33 AM | message detail
hellfire104 posted...
I see that MC is the underdog against Yuna by Guru selection but I really think that with the day vote, MC should win.

Also, didn't Auron seem a little weak in his match? That may not bode well for the FFX chars as a whole?


Last Halo victory in these contests IIRC was Halo putting on one serious show with the ASV against Uncharted 2. Part of me has a feeling that Chief is about to do the same. Doesn't help that he has an amazing ASV while his opponents are horrible during that same timeframe.

Final Fantasy X characters generally do worst during the ASV, right?
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#350 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2013 12:37:55 AM | message detail
hey guys there's still no ASV

we know this right
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