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People
didn't start turning on the Wii until around 2009. That's when people
starting shifting away from them to other systems. Nintendo seemed
strongest during those peak Wii years (2006-2008). Think KH was right
that if Square wasn't even worse, they'd be getting a lot more wins over
Nintendo these days. --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
They fell back down to earth in 2008? The year Kirby beat Sonic, you mean? Or was that the year Pikachu beat L-Block? --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
kinsho3 posted... BlAcK TuRtLe posted... The whole point of anti-votes is that some factor causes people that would not have voted for a character, votes for that character because they actively don't want to vote for another character. Master Chief has always had anti-votes on this site from people that take console wars too seriously (or something). It's part of his base strength. This base strength, combined with the FFX drop, and the fact that the match is a day match tells me Chief has this in the bag, despite people trying to over-analyze the match. Simple formula: FFX drop + Day match + ass SFF = Chief wins --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? However, the Guru of the next decade so far is SuperNiceDog |
LeonhartFour posted... BlAcK TuRtLe posted...The Wii had a lot more hatred than the Xbox ever has in the years before any games came out for it, yet those years were some of the strongest that Nintendo characters have had. 2009 OoT smashed FF7 in the finals 2010 Link looked dominant 2011 Majora's Mask beat Brawl in the finals in another dominant Nintendo contest. Consider me unconvinced --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? However, the Guru of the next decade so far is SuperNiceDog |
The
jury's still out on Nintendo this year. We've only seen Nintendo in a
few debated/surprisingly close matches so far. Phoenix/Marth (and
Phoenix is kinda Nintendo, sorta), Alucard/Falcon, Ike/Protoman (same as
Phoenix), Zidane/Ridley and Fox/Blue. Marth lost to Phoenix in a debated match that wasn't even close. Falcon surprisingly proved that he was actually stronger than Alucard (but I had him winning easily so it's a disappointment to ME). Ike nearly choked against Protoman, but Protoman is also kinda Nintyish. Ridley lost just as easily as Marth, and in a way that completely invalidated his showing on Cloud or presages a big Ridley drop post-Other M. Fox/Blue is entirely intra-Nintendo. We don't have enough data so far. --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
Lopen posted... They fell back down to earth in 2008? The year Kirby beat Sonic, you mean? Or was that the year Pikachu beat L-Block? Yes, let's use obvious anomalies to try to counter the point! Squall and Sora dominated Yoshi and Fox twice. Liquid Snake beat Luigi. Granted, he needed LFF to do it. But Liquid Snake. Phoenix Wright led Bowser for several hours. Brawl characters bombed left and right. I didn't say they became bad out of nowhere! But Nintendo was not as dominant relative to the rest of the field in 2008 as it had been in 2005-2007. I think you guys forget how dominant they were, 2005 especially. Nintendo literally won every Nintendo/Square match in 2005 except for Tifa/Luigi and Sephiroth/Mario. --- http://i.imgur.com/eqOQs.gif |
brb stuffing votes for Yuna to make BT look stupid trolololol |
The fact that Nintendo still wins contests doesn't disprove the point Nintendo IS weaker relative to the rest of the field compared to where they were 5 years ago --- http://i.imgur.com/eqOQs.gif |
Karma Hunter posted... The jury's still out on Nintendo this year. We've only seen Nintendo in a few debated/surprisingly close matches so far. Phoenix/Marth (and Phoenix is kinda Nintendo, sorta), Alucard/Falcon, Ike/Protoman (same as Phoenix), Zidane/Ridley and Fox/Blue. Fair enough, but likewise there's no evidence of a giant drop, except on the 4-5th tier characters that haven't had a game appearance since Brawl. Which invalidates the argument that r/gaming opinions affect GameFAQs contest strength. --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? However, the Guru of the next decade so far is SuperNiceDog |
Yeah,
it's kinda crazy to think Nintendo has been unaffected. They still win,
but it's a lack of the right competition rather than them being
dominant over even the best. Being Nintendo isn't necessarily a
guaranteed win like it was before. --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
Oh, and by the way, the next Nintendo match that has even been remotely
debated is... Missingno/Tidus, and only by borderline crazies. If Tidus
can even make that interesting that's hardly conclusive as it could
easily be the joke wearing thin as anything else. Then comes Cecil/Pit, which if Pit can make interesting at this point I think most of the topic would be surprised. Then there's Lightning/Donkey Kong, Charizard/Riku if you want to be really crazy... ...and then our first true test. Mewtwo/Vincent. <_< --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
Phoenix Wright isn't a Nintendo character? Honestly only one of those that I'd consider a "nintendo dropped" sign is Squall crushing Yoshi. Sora crushing Fox isn't really something the stats of previous years wouldn't predict I don't think. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
ZFS posted... Yeah, it's kinda crazy to think Nintendo has been unaffected. They still win, but it's a lack of the right competition rather than them being dominant over even the best. Being Nintendo isn't necessarily a guaranteed win like it was before. That can be chalked up to all the debateable matches featuring the dregs of the Brawl roster. They may have been strong in 2007-2008, but they've come back to earth until the next Smash comes out. I don't foresee a drop with any of the first and second tier Nintendo characters. --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? However, the Guru of the next decade so far is SuperNiceDog |
Pit boost watch out --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
Lopen posted... Phoenix Wright isn't a Nintendo character? Just being on Nintendo systems doesn't make you Nintendo! We're not calling Crono a Nintendo character all of a sudden, are we? --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
Phoenix
does not have the trends of a Nintendo character aside from the
ridiculously front loaded early vote. Don't really think there's much
evidence Nintendo SFFs him either. Just because Phoenix is exclusively
on Nintendo platforms (LOL iOS) doesn't make him a Nintendo character.
It makes him more popular than he probably would be otherwise (S'up
Lloyd), but that's not the same thing. --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
Which "group" of characters has looked good this contest? METAL GEAR SOLID --- http://i.imgur.com/a4GuDV3.gif |
The
Microsoft-association probably won't be kind to Master Chief. We don't
have much to test that theory (though Xbone-hate is still alive and
strong)...but we've seen Crash and Spyro finally win their first matches
ever during a time Sony completely pulled the rug from under Microsoft.
Throw Jak in that too, if you don't count Draven's rally. They were each facing fodder, but that's still a clue. If people see Sony's old mascots more favorably because of the PS4, people could see Microsoft's mascot less favorably because of the Xbone. --- T H E S T A B L E - bring on Epona! http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... The whole point of anti-votes is that some factor causes people that would not have voted for a character, votes for that character because they actively don't want to vote for another character. Bingo. If more neutral folks or even apathetic people actively vote against Master Chief, that only helps his opponents. The good thing for the Chief is that anti-voting becomes incredibly diluted with the more characters you have in a poll. I think you have me mistaken, though. I'm not saying Master Chief will lose solely due to anti-votes. I think he'll lose from a combination of anti-votes, a smaller voter base that generally prefers RPG characters over Western characters, and from a lack of major hit games over the past couple of years. --- Drop it to the floor... |
ChenKenichiFan posted... Which "group" of characters has looked good this contest? I would've said Sonic Team, but Shadow and Knux were kinda so-so. Sonic, Robotnik, and Tails all looked pretty good though. I guess you could say Ace Attorney even though it's just Phoenix and Edgeworth, but they both surpassed expectations. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png |
I know, it's just... I'm trying to give Nintendo some outs. There's really not a hotly debated match between Nintendo until we get to Big Boss/Luigi. ...and I think Mewtwo > Vincent has a better chance of happening than Luigi winning that crazy match --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
#teamgreen #yearofluigi #hashtag --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
Phoenix > Mewtwo has a better chance of happening than Mewtwo > Vincent...! --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png |
Less than 9% to go PH! --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 |
kinsho3 posted... BlAcK TuRtLe posted...The whole point of anti-votes is that some factor causes people that would not have voted for a character, votes for that character because they actively don't want to vote for another character. Once again, Halo 4, the first Halo game with Chief in it since 2008, was released last fall. And this smaller voter base preferring RPG characters hasn't been doing FF7/8/10 characters any good so far. I'll take 5-6 matches of identifyable trends over uneducated conjecture. --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? However, the Guru of the next decade so far is SuperNiceDog |
Holy crap, I didn't think Dragonborn would be half a percent below my last refresh. Ya know what's funny... if you swapped Pyramid Head for "talk of the stats topic" MASTA CHIEF, Chief vs. Dragonborn would have been one of the most hotly debated matches of the contest, but Nook would probably be taking a dump on em both. --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/NQTthNf.jpg |
And
what could be a really titanic match, Big Boss v Luigi, is kinda ruined
by the presence of Ness. Even if BB just flat out dominates Luigi has
an excuse in his back pocket. Same kinda thing for GlaDOS/Ike/Epona. Nintendo's first no excuses, highly argued, basically even match that it has a good argument to be significantly favored in? Dante/Squirtle/Zidane. --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
Halo
4 didn't do diddly poo for Master Chief. Even when completely ignoring
the possibility of a decline due to Microsoft's horribly present-day
reputation, you've gotta face facts and realize Chief has probably been
declining in strength since 2010. His series isn't nearly the
hype-generating machine it used to be. --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/gdl8lcn.jpg |
Halo
4 doesn't strike me as a big deal either way. We're far removed from
the hype around hat game, and I haven't really heard much about it
since. What was the response to that game? --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
Karma Hunter posted... Nintendo's first no excuses, highly argued, basically even match that it has a good argument to be significantly favored in? Nintendomination confirmed. --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/NQTthNf.jpg |
Zidane out of nowhere for the first place finish 'New Square doing poorly' my foot Ridley > Squirtle confirmed --- http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7760/222bj.jpg |
I do wonder how many people will abandon Pikachu if Dante manages to pull that off. --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
Zidane for first would be the best result there. --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
ChenKenichiFan posted... Halo 4 didn't do diddly poo for Master Chief. Even when completely ignoring the possibility of a decline due to Microsoft's horribly present-day reputation, you've gotta face facts and realize Chief has probably been declining in strength since 2010. His series isn't nearly the hype-generating machine it used to be. Holy crap, it's almost as if you people have never seen a contest before. Chief boosted in 2008 thanks to GAME FUEL. His 2010 "drop" was simply a result of the boost going away. Halo 4 is enough to bring him up a bit, and at the very least maintain his strength, which puts him close to Yuna anyways. Factor in FF7/8/10 looking like COMPLETE GARBAGE so far and i find it hard to see Chief losing here. AND ON TOP OF ALL THAT it is a day match, which has demonstrably shown to make Chief overperform. Let's see some actual facts and trends, and less "Microsoft are a bunch of poopy heads so im picking yuna" please? --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? However, the Guru of the next decade so far is SuperNiceDog |
Did Auron look like garbage? I don't think so --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... kinsho3 posted... Speaking as a fan who played Halo 4 at launch, I can't imagine Halo 4 giving Chief much strength. It didn't expose him to much of a new audience, and the game was not overwhelmingly well received by the fanbase. That said, this site has pretty much always hated the Xbox, I think the anti-Chief voting is pretty saturated at this point. I think he'll lose, but I think he'll lose just because non-GameFuel Chief isn't that strong, not because of a "special" level of anti-voting. Of course, I may end up taking Chief in the Expert just to make an ass of myself... --- Menji has reclaimed what was his by rights. I was more of a man with his than with my own combined. ##Alec |
Trend chart from the day match: Time | L-Block | Teemo | Palutena | Votes 0:05 | 58.79% | 12.56% | 28.64% | 597 1:00 | 58.80% | 14.66% | 26.53% | 4986 2:00 | 61.87% | 12.15% | 25.98% | 3638 3:00 | 59.84% | 11.81% | 28.36% | 3040 4:00 | 59.73% | 12.47% | 27.80% | 2759 5:00 | 61.82% | 11.35% | 26.83% | 2635 6:00 | 63.03% | 10.59% | 26.38% | 2475 7:00 | 60.90% | 12.65% | 26.45% | 2238 8:00 | 62.26% | 11.79% | 25.95% | 2104 9:00 | 60.88% | 11.14% | 27.98% | 1769 10:00 | 61.08% | 12.15% | 26.78% | 1729 11:00 | 59.86% | 13.95% | 26.19% | 1577 12:00 | 59.63% | 13.09% | 27.27% | 1474 Who figured when this match started that Teemo's best hour would be the first one. L-Block does pretty well during the ASV timeframe. Palutena is kinda stable. X-Stats: L-Block – 50.00% Palutena – 30.67% Teemo – 17.02% L-Block's prediction percentage was 71.91% --- http://gifsoup.com/view/874243/big-boss-o.gif |
ZFS posted... Halo 4 doesn't strike me as a big deal either way. We're far removed from the hype around hat game, and I haven't really heard much about it since. What was the response to that game? Most diehard Halo fans seemed to hate it and the game dropped like a rock in the XBL charts. Though it's arguable what that means considering we've seen hated games before not do much here to characters either way. --- Demyx is better than Axel. http://www.last.fm/user/crazydom |
You
can't put too much into old facts and trends when we haven't seen a
Character Battle in 3.5 years and when votals have been slashed by more
than half since the last one. Everything we've seen since 2010
has spelled out bad news for Chief, and he wasn't doing so hot last time
anyway. The writing's on the wall, which is why you have a majority of
the board picking against Chief in a match where he has two clear
intangibles (day match; two female opponents). --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/NQTthNf.jpg |
Revolver Ocelot > Sub-Zero, yessir --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
Karma Hunter posted... Revolver Ocelot > Sub-Zero, yessir Auron/Roxas LFF whoo Seriously you guys clamor for it in situations where it makes no sense but not here? --- http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7760/222bj.jpg |
LeonhartFour posted... Karma Hunter posted...Revolver Ocelot > Sub-Zero, yessir You'd be surprised how much my MGS blinders can do when running at full power. --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
Halo
4 came out last year...and no new character from 2012 has looked
remotely good. Borderlands 2 and Xenoblade were the top two games, and
look how they've done. There's also Lee/Clementine, Vaas, Kat, and the
lack of a boost for most characters in Playstation All-Stars. ME3's
cast is lucky it has a trilogy behind it. Point is, MC probably doesn't benefit from Halo 4. --- T H E S T A B L E - bring on Epona! http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg |
Well, I'm all for MGSV boost, too! Whichever works! --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
I don't recall negative reaction to Halo 4. I don't recall much any
reaction to Halo 4 aside from reserved praise. I think saying Halo
fans hated it is just trying to spin the lack of hype around the game
into hate. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
And
yeah, this site doesn't play games as much anymore. I know it gets said
over and over again, but it's true. This site is full of people who are
in their 20s and working full-time jobs. It's not surprising this site
doesn't get around to playing new games as often anymore. I know it's
true for me. --- http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7760/222bj.jpg |
Even
if you wanna argue heavy fanbase splitting we got Ocelot going from 24%
against Kratos, Jill, and Heavy to 33% on Auron and Roxas. I'll take
it! --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
HaRRicH posted... Halo 4 came out last year...and no new character from 2012 has looked remotely good. Borderlands 2 and Xenoblade were the top two games, and look how they've done. There's also Lee/Clementine, Vaas, Kat, and the lack of a boost for most characters in Playstation All-Stars. ME3's cast is lucky it has a trilogy behind it. New franchises have done bad, the video game industry is worse than Hollywood for its reliance on sequels and reboots.. Playstation All-Stars was a crappy Smash clone with forgettable characters that sold very poorly. ME3 was a huge deal and was the final game in an established franchise. Halo 4 wasn't as big a deal, but it was an anticipated sequel that I personally enjoyed, and got favourable reviews all around. A new game keeps Chief current. Were this match after FFX:HD, I would have taken Yuna without question, because she hasn't had a game since what, 2001? But it isn't. In a debatable match, pick the character that best answers the question "What have you done for me lately?" --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? However, the Guru of the next decade so far is SuperNiceDog |
I
feel like it's more segmented now than anything. People play games, but
they're not centralized as much anymore. There are big games, but
they're not TPs or Brawls or FFXs, games with huge playrate that appeal
to GameFAQs. I think that's more to blame than anything, just the
division in consoles and types of games people are playing. --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
Yuna was in a game in 2011! --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
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