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Nah Dragonborn has dialogue though he's not voiced. But you pick all the dialogue and it's pretty random-- so yeah, not strongly characterized. Not like Shep. (who I actually do vote even though I didn't use the default model there-- just different types of characters) --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
pjbasis posted... FFX is already popular enough. Halo did pretty well in GOTD, all things considered! --- http://i.imgur.com/CbfFb.jpg |
kinsho3 posted... pjbasis posted...The only argument I can see for Chief now is that Halo has bounced back like Pokemon and PS1 platformers and actually has some nostalgia going for it. How is a bungle that has been largely reversed, and completely disappeared from the news cycle/reddit hivemind going to affect the popularity of a series that started 13 years ago from a beloved third party developer (Bungie)? --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? However, the Guru of the next decade so far is SuperNiceDog |
I'm glad I picked Tifa making it to R3 though I would love for Yuna to SFF Tifa to oblivion and win instead. --- http://myanimelist.net/animelist/swordz9 |
Because Master Chief is the face of the Xbox. There is not even anyone else remotely in contention to represent it. And while Microsoft did SOME damage control, it's not like people suddenly love the Xbone now. Chief will suffer some backlash for it. --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" |
LeonhartFour posted...
And we haven't seen Master Chief since then, so...! --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... kinsho3 posted...pjbasis posted...The only argument I can see for Chief now is that Halo has bounced back like Pokemon and PS1 platformers and actually has some nostalgia going for it. In what universe do you live where the Xbone hatred has disappeared? --- Demyx is better than Axel. http://www.last.fm/user/crazydom |
LeonhartFour posted... pjbasis posted...FFX is already popular enough. Pokemon did pretty well too, considering Majora went on to win the whole thing! |
You know if games =/= characters why are you so sure of this console = character thing --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 |
What do these three have in common? Amazing soundtracks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-_g8NZr1tA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GavnF2SuOc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qalGezr76o --- http://i.imgur.com/a4GuDV3.gif |
What
I mean by Dragonborn's dialogue is random is like... it doesn't feel
like there's a very strongly suggested internally consistent character
there. With Shepard if you go all Paragon choices or all Renegade choices the character painted is pretty consistent. You can also do a mix and have it work out for the most part. With Skyrim it's kinda... all over the place and more on the player to clearly define him. I see Commander Shepard as Commander Shepard regardless of what the design is. With Dragonborn it's more like a bunch of different characters that can shout loud. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Oh god, at this rate it feels like when I return back from school I'll find Dragonborn 2nd. --- I have Cloud winning this contest, which means I'll beat most of you... Nawt gonna happen >_> |
pjbasis posted... You know if games =/= characters why are you so sure of this console = character thing It doesn't apply to everything, obviously. Just characters who are seen to be mascot characters of the systems they represented, like the PS platformer mascots who are suddenly doing half decently when they never have before. --- http://img.imgcake.com/leonhjpguz.jpg |
Sorozone posted... Because that hivemend never forgets. The multitude of "r/gaming boycotts" where the day after the game launches half of the subreddit is playing the game are more proof than I need that the reddit hivemind has the attention span of a gnat. --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? However, the Guru of the next decade so far is SuperNiceDog |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... kinsho3 posted...pjbasis posted...The only argument I can see for Chief now is that Halo has bounced back like Pokemon and PS1 platformers and actually has some nostalgia going for it. Not the strongest argument to be made, sure, but here's the reasoning - Halo is associated with Microsoft in most people's minds. Thus, the better you feel about one, you'd probably feel better about the other as well. The opposite applies as well. And even if Microsoft largely reversed many of their bad decisions, they're still dealing with the fallout from a lot of bad PR. --- Drop it to the floor... |
I
don't think the PS platformer guys ever did bad or good because of the
PS1's popularity, but just because they were mainstream and not RPG
during the time Final Fantasy was at its peak and now they're cartoony
and old and platformy when Nintendo dominates. --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 |
Also
Master Chief = X-Box is pretty silly. I really doubt Halo fans are
going to hold it against Master Chief because XBone made a fool out of
itself. Maybe gives his anti-voters more ammo but yeah he's not going
to lose strength --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Yeah,
no way MC doesn't suffer some backlash. That being said... c'mon, guys.
This is multiway. I think you're forgetting how well Chief has done in
this format, even the crazy deep GAME FUEL run aside. He nearly beat
Kirby despite the puffball probably having a pic advantage as big as
Nook's scoring now against these two guys. MC can't be effectively antivoted here unless he has an option that people will flock to, and while the majority of voters will easily - easily - side with the curvaceous posteriors of Yuna and Claire, neither one is going to garner them so decisively that they can eke out a plurality. MC is gonna easily coast. --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
I
think people are really overrating the XBox hatred among the more
casual gaming audience and the influence that it will have on Master
Chief. Sure, everybody was rah-rah at the time, but we've also had people vocally hating on Nintendo and mocking their screwsup and ineptitude for like five years now and that hasn't seemed to slow down Mario or Link, the faces of the franchise. Give people a shiny to exclusive to look at and they forget their hatred. Next Xbox will still sell like hotcakes, and probably would have even if it hadn't balked, but now that they've cracked everybody can consider it a "win" and go back to playing their Xbox. Now, I still think MC loses, but I don't think it's because "OH MAN INTERNET BACKLASH" --- Menji has reclaimed what was his by rights. I was more of a man with his than with my own combined. ##Alec |
kinsho3 posted... BlAcK TuRtLe posted...kinsho3 posted...pjbasis posted...The only argument I can see for Chief now is that Halo has bounced back like Pokemon and PS1 platformers and actually has some nostalgia going for it. The Wii was at its peak of hatred prior to Brawl coming out, that didn't stop Nintendo from stomping face in 2007. Mass Effect 3 had a very controversial ending that had reddit up in arms, and Shepard just had his strongest performance ever. Sonic has had nothing but garbage games for the last 15 years, but he still manages to be in the top 10 characters on the site. Your point is moot. --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? However, the Guru of the next decade so far is SuperNiceDog |
AlecTrevelyan006 posted... casual gaming audience haw haw like these guys vote here --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 |
I
don't think Xbox hatred will apply to Chief. I just think Chief is
going to be weaker regardless. He's not going to have staying power,
here. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Yeah it's a good point. Wii was hated enough for Mario Kart Wii and New Super Mario Bros Wii to bomb but Galaxy did decent and obviously Brawl rocked. --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 |
Karma Hunter posted... He nearly beat Kirby despite the puffball probably having a pic advantage as big as Nook's scoring now against these two guys. And yet Big Boss wins that poll outright if Raiden's not there, even with an old man pic! Sore Thumb Factor overrated And nobody is saying Master Chief is suddenly going to become fodder or anything. Yuna is better than people give her credit for, but if you're expecting even something like 2008 Chief, you're probably going to be disappointed. He's not that guy now. I also think "Master Chief does well in this format" is a bit of a fallacy, too. He was probably just stronger then. He is not a consistent character. --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
AlecTrevelyan006 posted... I think people are really overrating the XBox hatred among the more casual gaming audience and the influence that it will have on Master Chief. Yes it has! If Square hadn't screwed up even worse than Nintendo they'd be getting killed on this site! --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
I
still think Chief will lose. The drop in votals will definitely hurt
him along with Western characters looking weaker than ever aside from a
few cases. --- http://myanimelist.net/animelist/swordz9 |
KamikazePotato posted... I don't think Xbox hatred will apply to Chief. I just think Chief is going to be weaker regardless. He's not going to have staying power, here. He just had his first game since Halo 3 last fall. That should be enough to maintain, if not strengthen him. Compare that to Yuna whose game is yet another year old and that all other 3-D FF characters have looked like ass so far. --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? However, the Guru of the next decade so far is SuperNiceDog |
Yeah Chief could definitely be weaker, especially with the relative lack of hype surrounding Halo 4 for its release. Pinning a drop on XBONE anti-votes though seems stupid. No one votes Chief because he symbolizes XBox they vote him because he symbolizes Halo. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Karma Hunter posted... MC can't be effectively antivoted here unless he has an option that people will flock to, and while the majority of voters will easily - easily - side with the curvaceous posteriors of Yuna and Claire, neither one is going to garner them so decisively that they can eke out a plurality. MC is gonna easily coast. If he is anti-voted with enough severity such that he loses to both curvaceous posteriors, I swear to God above that I will rub one out to a video game character for the first time in my life. Make it happen GameFAQs. --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/NQTthNf.jpg |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... whose game is yet another year old Doesn't seem to be a bad thing 'round these parts! --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 |
Lopen posted... No one votes Chief because he symbolizes XBox they vote him because he symbolizes Halo. It's not a matter of who votes for him. It's a matter of who votes against him. Those are two very different groups of people. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
Okay?
People that vote against him are going to... keep voting against him?
How is this going to make him drop. People voting against him will do
so with such venom that they'll stuff an extra vote so they can vote
both Claire AND Yuna? --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
The
only thing that makes me feel iffy about Yuna is putting "FFX-2 with
guns Yuna" in the match pic. I thinks she wants to contrast heavily with
Chief, and she really doesn't. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
also
I don't appreciate this hivemind of "All 3-D FF characters have looked
bad." One person says it and all of a sudden everyone believes it! FFVII
has looked weaker. Zidane looked just fine. Auron's performance is
within acceptable parameters, considering the circumstances. Trying to
pin a weakness on Seifer or Rinoa is kinda silly because we have no idea
how strong they were to begin with, and the Aerith/Rinoa match is just
plain unfair to begin with. It'd be like if we got Lulu in a match against Tifa and then Wakka in a match against a known midcarder and they both did worse than expected, and we all said, "Man, FFX characters must be weaker now!" They're not known quantities! Just because they undershoot our expectations doesn't mean the franchise is weaker now! --- Guess who I am! http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs3/1345748_o.gif |
Like
I could see the argument of the XBone hurting if Chief wasn't already
the most anti-voted character on GameFAQs but it can't possibly get worse. He's winning next to 0 "neutral votes" as it is. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Karma Hunter posted... AlecTrevelyan006 posted...I think people are really overrating the XBox hatred among the more casual gaming audience and the influence that it will have on Master Chief. So Microsoft has screwed up, Nintendo has screwed up, Square has screwed up, Konami has screwed up... Who doesn't get bit by the backlash bug other than a few fodder/low midcard characters who got a nostalgia boost? --- Menji has reclaimed what was his by rights. I was more of a man with his than with my own combined. ##Alec |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... The Wii was at its peak of hatred prior to Brawl coming out, that didn't stop Nintendo from stomping face in 2007. Mass Effect 3 had a very controversial ending that had reddit up in arms, and Shepard just had his strongest performance ever. Sonic has had nothing but garbage games for the last 15 years, but he still manages to be in the top 10 characters on the site. Not a bad argument, but it still doesn't change the fact that Master Chief is the face of the X-Box. Any renewed hatred of Microsoft and its gaming consoles likely translates into a vote for either Yuna or Claire. How much of a difference will these hatred votes make will be seen tomor.....errrr....today. --- Drop it to the floor... |
Lopen posted... Like I could see the argument of the XBone hurting if Chief wasn't already the most anti-voted character on GameFAQs but it can't possibly get worse. He's winning next to 0 "neutral votes" as it is. I don't think the anti-votes against him have been anywhere near as bad in recent years as they were in the beginning. Not only he should he be weaker because of GameFAQS becoming more insular but his anti-votes should be fiercer than they have been in years. --- Demyx is better than Axel. http://www.last.fm/user/crazydom |
pjbasis posted... BlAcK TuRtLe posted...whose game is yet another year old Not sure what you mean here. All other characters that haven't had game releases to maintain them have been consistently dropping off. Hell, just look at the FF7 crew. Alternatively, characters that have had recent games have seen an increase, regardless of the quality or reception. Again, Sonic is a perfect example. --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? However, the Guru of the next decade so far is SuperNiceDog |
Dude he lost to Ryu Hayabusa that's evidence enough that he's sucking anti-votes as fierce as he ever has. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Lopen posted... Okay? People that vote against him are going to... keep voting against him? How is this going to make him drop. People voting against him will do so with such venom that they'll stuff an extra vote so they can vote both Claire AND Yuna? Eh, anti-voters are not as static of a group as you make them out to be. The Wii has been getting rocked hard the last few years of its lifespan. Is it because there's now new people here to anti-vote it that weren't here before? It's the same group of people who are suddenly dissatisfied with Nintendo and they're showing it. Nintendo in general hasn't looked that great this contest either. People are dissatisfied with Nintendo, and their characters' performances generally are reflecting it. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
kinsho3 posted... BlAcK TuRtLe posted...The Wii was at its peak of hatred prior to Brawl coming out, that didn't stop Nintendo from stomping face in 2007. Mass Effect 3 had a very controversial ending that had reddit up in arms, and Shepard just had his strongest performance ever. Sonic has had nothing but garbage games for the last 15 years, but he still manages to be in the top 10 characters on the site. "I'm SO ANGRY that Microsoft's intended policies that they ended up reversing affected 1% of the gaming population that doesn't have reliable internets. Even though I really like Halo and would vote Master Chief here, I'm SO ANGRY that I'm going to throw my vote to Yuna or Claire. THAT will show those Micro$oft fanboys! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA" --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? However, the Guru of the next decade so far is SuperNiceDog |
The
problem with MC is that he's also going to start losing some 'default'
votes from anti-vote intensifying. Believe it or not, he was getting
them! I love default voting Chief, take that Donkey Kong <_< --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
LeonhartFour posted... Lopen posted...Okay? People that vote against him are going to... keep voting against him? How is this going to make him drop. People voting against him will do so with such venom that they'll stuff an extra vote so they can vote both Claire AND Yuna? This makes no sense. The Wii had a lot more hatred than the Xbox ever has in the years before any games came out for it, yet those years were some of the strongest that Nintendo characters have had. Also, Nintendo has been looking great this year despite the hilarious trainwreck that is the Wii U. Compare that to Nathan Drake, who is arguably the face of Sony these days, and how he failed to impress despite everyone being all about the PS4 lately. Gaming news does not translate to contest strength. --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? However, the Guru of the next decade so far is SuperNiceDog |
I
don't think the negative sentiment around Microsoft has gone away. It's
not at the same level it was, but they're a clear hate choice and Sony
is the hero, sort of the opposite of how it was years ago. I don't see
anything wrong with suggesting that will hurt Master Chief. I guess
there's nothing conclusive, but Mario would probably benefit more, or
less, based on how popular Nintendo's is at the time. Someone who
represents a whole company/console would probably be more suspectible to
that. Not that it will take him down to low levels on its own, but this
is definitely not a strong Chief heading in. --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
I don't think you understand how anti-votes work, son. --- Drop it to the floor... |
But then, modern FF has kind of sucked this contest, so there's that going for him. --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... The Wii had a lot more hatred than the Xbox ever has in the years before any games came out for it, yet those years were some of the strongest that Nintendo characters have had. Nintendo characters were the strongest in the years when hype for big Nintendo games was the highest. Twilight Princess hype was huge, Brawl hype was huge. Nintendo in general was pretty dominant from 2005-2007. Don't let the fact that L-Block won in 2007 fool you. If L-Block doesn't get the internet on its side, Link destroys Cloud in the finals that year. Then they kinda fell back down to Earth in 2008 after TP and Brawl were sort of underwhelming. Remember how many times BRAWL DEBOOST came up in 2008? --- http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab48/Leonhart4/Squall.jpg |
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