Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1097

#201 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/7/2013 11:50:01 AM | message detail
Auron looked fine under the circumstances. I dunno why everyone here loves to call for LFF in every possible situation but when Auron/Roxas LFF is brought up (who are literally in the same game), everyone's like "eh, probably didn't happen!"

I don't understand you people!
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#202 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 8/7/2013 11:50:09 AM | message detail
I can't believe that people on this board are actually trying to start the rallies themselves. Are we that obsessed with "being right"?

...Oh, right, of course we are.
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#203 | LordoftheMorons | Posted 8/7/2013 11:52:24 AM | message detail
Like I said yesterday, Roxas was a bad draw for Auron. L-Block definitely has a chance, but I don't think he should be the favorite.
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#204 | ahirsch101 | Posted 8/7/2013 11:54:25 AM | message detail
People are actually thinking L-Block can beat Auron based on this silly match?
#205 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/7/2013 11:56:33 AM | message detail
I feel that Auron should have done a little better against Roxas in a night match. It should have been a 70/30 or worse, but I'll give Auron a little slack for having a very plain match picture.

Though Ocelot didn't even look like Ocelot (I love the new MGS5 models but we've gotta assume tons of people still don't recognize them) so...
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#206 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/7/2013 11:56:38 AM | message detail
Well, they're basing it more on L-Block's "potential" than anything else. Even a slightly weakened Auron should be able to win next round. Only way L-Block wins is via shenanigans, and we haven't seen any signs of said shenanigans in either of its post-championship appearances.
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#207 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/7/2013 11:57:18 AM | message detail
ahirsch101 posted...
People are actually thinking L-Block can beat Auron based on this silly match?


Just saying it shouldn't be discarded as ridiculous.
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#208 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/7/2013 11:58:16 AM | message detail
I'd assume enough MGS fans have seen the MGSV trailer for it to have an impact at this point.
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#209 | ahirsch101 | Posted 8/7/2013 11:58:32 AM | message detail
I see what you're saying about Auron, I just wouldn't take too much from this match since I suspect Palutena is very weak.
#210 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/7/2013 11:58:38 AM | message detail
Speaking of Roxas, are we looking at a contest where every Kingdom Hearts character aside from Sora is eliminated in Round 1?

Though I think that was guaranteed by virtue of Roxas and Riku doing so bad seeding-wise, and Axel not making it. Speaking of which...

...am I the only one who wants to see a bonus poll with snubbed veterans? It could increase their chance of making it into a future contest. If we had such a poll, I say we hold it between Liquid Snake, Ken, and Jecht.
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#211 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/7/2013 11:59:14 AM | message detail
ahirsch101 posted...
I see what you're saying about Auron, I just wouldn't take too much from this match since I suspect Palutena is very weak.


Just you wait, L-Block will be fodderized next round (provided it even makes it there, stupid LoL).
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#212 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/7/2013 12:02:41 PM | message detail
Eh, this match is over; even Palutena's placing is secure now. Draven was already making big strides three hours in.
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#213 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/7/2013 12:03:13 PM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
Ezio looked fine but Auron underwhelmed. L-Block will stand out like crazy next round and New Square in general hasn't done well, so I think it's fair to keep the block upset possibility open. It won't lead to anything too scary, though; Samus will just roll through the next round anyway.


I was honestly starting to get scared of the possibility of Ezio beating Auron. IIRC Tails and Ocelot are pretty much equal in the 2010 x-stats, and both of them have excuses to increase since then (MGSV hype/Sonic's resurrection/old-school icons boosting). So does Ezio.

I'm not switching away from Yuna in my Expert Challenge, but I honestly feel that Master Chief is going to surprise us and win. Besides, last time we bet against Halo it didn't work.

Although I acknowledge that we bet against Halo because of consistent disappointments from everything related to that franchise in past contests. Never mind that 53% on Uncharted 2 doesn't exactly look all that good after Drake struggled with Pac-Man (although maybe the fact that he won at all is impressive?).
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#214 | LordoftheMorons | Posted 8/7/2013 12:04:54 PM | message detail
Looking at these failed rallies, I don't think there was ever any danger of Teemo winning. Half of the posts are like "screw Teemo I'm voting for L-Block."
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#215 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/7/2013 12:07:20 PM | message detail
I hate hate hate hate hate this match seriously
This is the most annoying match so far (and i'm mad as far as it's possible to be mad at internet poll!)
I think most of the anti-Draven posts in those topics are mine and I really don't believe he can advance past Ryu and X (and I would bet my account he will finish last in a 4 ways with them even if we throw Zero in)
But even then,I can't believe Teemo is getting owned so bad here
Even if half of the rallied votes of LoL were given to L-Block I would expect Teemo to at least...beat Palutena

Now about those rallied votes...the current votals for this match is 11664 which is the second highest votals ine last 10 day matches (the first being Missile match which was..kinda rallied too)
Then there was the Zidane match with 11443 which was legit
Anyway the average votals for this timespan in the last 10 day matches is...10939
Which would mean we are talking about 725 rallied votes (at max) so far...yay...(6% of the votes..)
#216 | ZinsanityCraze | Posted 8/7/2013 12:08:22 PM | message detail
LinkMarioSamus posted...
I was honestly starting to get scared of the possibility of Ezio beating Auron.


It ain't going to happen.
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#217 | ShatteredElysium | Posted 8/7/2013 12:12:34 PM | message detail
LinkMarioSamus posted...
ChenKenichiFan posted...
Ezio looked fine but Auron underwhelmed. L-Block will stand out like crazy next round and New Square in general hasn't done well, so I think it's fair to keep the block upset possibility open. It won't lead to anything too scary, though; Samus will just roll through the next round anyway.


I was honestly starting to get scared of the possibility of Ezio beating Auron. IIRC Tails and Ocelot are pretty much equal in the 2010 x-stats, and both of them have excuses to increase since then (MGSV hype/Sonic's resurrection/old-school icons boosting). So does Ezio.

I'm not switching away from Yuna in my Expert Challenge, but I honestly feel that Master Chief is going to surprise us and win. Besides, last time we bet against Halo it didn't work.

Although I acknowledge that we bet against Halo because of consistent disappointments from everything related to that franchise in past contests. Never mind that 53% on Uncharted 2 doesn't exactly look all that good after Drake struggled with Pac-Man (although maybe the fact that he won at all is impressive?).


Tails went through Kratos and Charizard. His 2k10 value is drastically higher than all his previous values.
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#218 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/7/2013 12:12:45 PM | message detail
LoL: messing with your expert picks by NOT rallying #mindgames
#219 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/7/2013 12:15:20 PM | message detail
Oh right, trend chart for the night match:

Time | Auron | Ocelot | Roxas | Votes
0:05 | 46.92% | 31.63% | 21.44% | 471
1:00 | 44.59% | 33.09% | 22.32% | 5008
2:00 | 44.19% | 33.56% | 22.25% | 2831
3:00 | 44.05% | 33.09% | 22.86% | 2200
4:00 | 44.52% | 33.56% | 21.92% | 1779
5:00 | 46.05% | 32.37% | 21.58% | 1455
6:00 | 46.27% | 32.89% | 20.84% | 1435
7:00 | 44.93% | 35.13% | 19.94% | 1449
8:00 | 48.92% | 31.33% | 19.75% | 1711
9:00 | 46.18% | 34.26% | 19.56% | 1897
10:00 | 46.57% | 32.37% | 21.06% | 1999
11:00 | 47.51% | 31.59% | 20.90% | 1928
12:00 | 45.73% | 31.22% | 23.06% | 1826

Auron does better in the second half of the match. Ocelot does better in the first half. Roxas suffers a bit during the Europe vote but recovers a little with the late morning vote. Not a lot of movement overall though.

X-Stats:

Auron – 50.00%
Revolver Ocelot – 41.94%
Roxas – 32.10%

Auron's prediction percentage was 54.66%
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#220 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/7/2013 12:26:22 PM | message detail
6000 vote barrier activated
consider it called
#221 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/7/2013 12:33:13 PM | message detail
ShatteredElysium posted...
Tails went through Kratos and Charizard. His 2k10 value is drastically higher than all his previous values.


Huh you're right? He's actually higher in the adjusted stats than in the raw stats, strangely enough.

Those stats have Ocelot a smidge above Tails, on further inspection. Factor in a possible Ocelot boost and...there goes Ezio's chances of pulling off the upset.

Makes me remember all that Ezio > Zelda talk way back when.
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#222 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/7/2013 12:34:42 PM | message detail
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Makes me remember all that Ezio > Zelda talk way back when.


All that non-existent Ezio > Zelda talk.

Well, there was one dude who argued hardcore for it, I think, but no one took him seriously.
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#223 | Safer_777 | Posted 8/7/2013 12:35:17 PM | message detail
Let us hope that Draven fares better.
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#224 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/7/2013 12:36:45 PM | message detail
Safer_777 posted...
Let us hope that Draven fares worse.
#225 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/7/2013 12:38:09 PM | message detail
Oh man, I vaguely remember the Ezio > Zelda lone ranger. Who the heck was it?
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#226 | raginbull911 | Posted 8/7/2013 12:39:07 PM | message detail
Teemo's trolling has transcended League of Legends. He's performing so poorly to convince everyone to put Draven in last in their expert bracket.
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#227 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/7/2013 12:41:08 PM | message detail
Oh screw this match\
Any chance for Tom Nook>Dragonborn?
#228 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/7/2013 12:43:11 PM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
Oh man, I vaguely remember the Ezio > Zelda lone ranger. Who the heck was it?


Yeah, I can't remember either. Didn't he do an account bet over the match or something?

I guess he followed through with it!
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#229 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/7/2013 12:43:16 PM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
Oh man, I vaguely remember the Ezio > Zelda lone ranger. Who the heck was it?


It was Curt.
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#230 | Lopen | Posted 8/7/2013 12:43:56 PM | message detail
So Teemo actually was rallied and it... hardly did anything?

Just more evidence that Draven was vote stuffed imhhhho. We'd better hope Bacon actually does something when he's stuffing against non jobbers because with these vote totals and Ryu not totally rolling over for MMX he could definitely roll over that match too given that evidence supports that it's not actually rallying.
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#231 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/7/2013 12:44:06 PM | message detail
Oh yeah, it was Curt.

Just now realizing I haven't seen him in forever unless he's on an alt I'm unaware of.
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#232 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/7/2013 12:44:34 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Oh yeah, it was Curt.

Just now realizing I haven't seen him in forever unless he's on an alt I'm unaware of.


He changes accounts frequently. Last time I saw him he was on the name 'BleedingRed'.
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#233 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/7/2013 12:44:47 PM | message detail
Lopen posted...
So Teemo actually was rallied and it... hardly did anything?

Just more evidence that Draven was vote stuffed imhhhho. We'd better hope Bacon actually does something when he's stuffing against non jobbers because with these vote totals and Ryu not totally rolling over for MMX he could definitely roll over that match too given that evidence supports that it's not actually rallying.


MMX to SFF Ryu into the ground
come on MMX do it
#234 | Xuxon | Posted 8/7/2013 12:47:27 PM | message detail
From: Lopen | Posted: 8/7/2013 3:43:56 PM | #230
So Teemo actually was rallied and it... hardly did anything?

Just more evidence that Draven was vote stuffed imhhhho. We'd better hope Bacon actually does something when he's stuffing against non jobbers because with these vote totals and Ryu not totally rolling over for MMX he could definitely roll over that match too given that evidence supports that it's not actually rallying.

i wouldn't even be surprised if it was just a guy who picked Draven in round 1 and won't bother stuffing him anymore
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#235 | LordoftheMorons | Posted 8/7/2013 12:50:45 PM | message detail
Lopen posted...
So Teemo actually was rallied and it... hardly did anything?

Just more evidence that Draven was vote stuffed imhhhho. We'd better hope Bacon actually does something when he's stuffing against non jobbers because with these vote totals and Ryu not totally rolling over for MMX he could definitely roll over that match too given that evidence supports that it's not actually rallying.

The Reddit rallies for this match didn't take off. Also my impression from reading the few posts in them is that a lot of LoL players don't actually like Teemo, so he might not even be drawing the majority of the rallied votes.
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#236 | Lopen | Posted 8/7/2013 12:51:44 PM | message detail
If you actually read the Draven rally topics most people were saying "screw you I'm voting for Jak" in them too.
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#237 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/7/2013 12:52:17 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
Lopen posted...
So Teemo actually was rallied and it... hardly did anything?

Just more evidence that Draven was vote stuffed imhhhho. We'd better hope Bacon actually does something when he's stuffing against non jobbers because with these vote totals and Ryu not totally rolling over for MMX he could definitely roll over that match too given that evidence supports that it's not actually rallying.


MMX to SFF Ryu into the ground
come on MMX do it


Am I the only one who thinks that Draven will benefit from standing out like a sore thumb against two anime-inspired characters?

It isn't even necessarily Capcom LFF or anything - if you replace one of those two with Frank West or Jill Valentine, I stop considering that. Street Fighter and Mega Man just feel like close-together series to me though, and it isn't just because of consistent Street Fighter references in the Mega Man X games (yes I know about that).
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#238 | LordoftheMorons | Posted 8/7/2013 12:52:59 PM | message detail
Yeah but it was more in a "I really like Jak" kind of way and not in a "I'm antivoting this little b****** " way.
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#239 | vcharon | Posted 8/7/2013 12:53:23 PM | message detail
Yeah, I think Draven was vote stuffed to be honest. Even if Teemo isn't that well liked, these rallies for it can't even save him from being the very worst of fodder at this point.
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#240 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/7/2013 12:53:26 PM | message detail
Lopen posted...
If you actually read the Draven rally topics most people were saying "screw you I'm voting for Jak" in them too.


this is true, but I don't think Draven gets anti-voted like Teemo
#241 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/7/2013 12:54:16 PM | message detail
At least Teemo will give us something to adjust Draven by in the X-Stats...!
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#242 | Lopen | Posted 8/7/2013 12:55:20 PM | message detail
And yeah I've said this before but it's not like Draven is some beloved figure in the LOL community. He has a meme but the meme's almost a backhanded insult to him out of being annoyed because he's overused. He's less love-hate than Teemo but anyone saying he's universally liked is uninformed about LOL or just delusional.
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#243 | LordoftheMorons | Posted 8/7/2013 12:55:48 PM | message detail
(I'm not discounting the possibility of stuffing, but I think Draven would have at least beat Chie anyway)
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#244 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/7/2013 12:56:18 PM | message detail
Changing subject, you guys think Mint and Rue from Threads of Fate would be the weakest Square characters to ever set foot in a contest if they happened to make it in at some point?
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#245 | Fr0zoN | Posted 8/7/2013 12:57:19 PM | message detail
Yeah this is making Draven's round 1 performance very hard to believe. It's very hard to get a rally to make as much difference as in Draven's match and then you look at how terrible Teemo is doing........

To bring about the Draven swing you need a rabid fanbase and surely if the LoL fanbase cares that much to rally that amount of votes for him then Teemo would be the same.

Biggest red flag is how Draven completely dominated Europe and then you look at Teemo today and he SUCKS there. Jak won 40>31 in the US so Europe must of swung that match and then suddenly they dont care at all about LoL in this match?
#246 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/7/2013 12:57:35 PM | message detail
Man I am excited for Dragonborn tonight.

What would you guys need to see from him in order to make him a favorite in Round 2 (against the FF girls, mind. If it's Chief there instead I realize he's probably got no chance).
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#247 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/7/2013 12:59:53 PM | message detail
50% at least. Probably more like 60% since he's against two fodder characters.
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#248 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/7/2013 1:04:13 PM | message detail
I don't buy it. A Draven stuffer would have had to be extremely persistent AND smart to do things the way he did. Draven began with healthy percentage cuts, then elevated to stalls, then began cutting Jak's lead to shreds, and then only gradually slowed his tornado once he got the lead. The stuffer would have needed to stuff with normal rally trends in mind - which is intelligent as hell - and would have also needed to keep the effort going for nine consecutive hours, as Draven continued to gain until the very end. That's some George Romero s***.










I now really want this to be George Romero.
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#249 | LordoftheMorons | Posted 8/7/2013 1:05:11 PM | message detail
Fr0zoN posted...
Yeah this is making Draven's round 1 performance very hard to believe. It's very hard to get a rally to make as much difference as in Draven's match and then you look at how terrible Teemo is doing........

To bring about the Draven swing you need a rabid fanbase and surely if the LoL fanbase cares that much to rally that amount of votes for him then Teemo would be the same.

Biggest red flag is how Draven completely dominated Europe and then you look at Teemo today and he SUCKS there. Jak won 40>31 in the US so Europe must of swung that match and then suddenly they dont care at all about LoL in this match?

Teemo hasn't had any big rallies take off. If they don't take off they're useless. Draven had a huge one that reached the front page of the LoL subreddit where it was seen by a ton of people. The Teemo ones never got anywhere close to the front page.
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#250 | LOLContests | Posted 8/7/2013 1:05:12 PM | message detail
If Draven was being stuffed than the person doing so went to a lot of trouble to make sure that the proxy servers he was using were in a wide variety of countries. I mean I don't know how exactly vote stuffing would work, but I doubt that the person rallying would have been able to get votes "from" virtually every country in Europe, without trying to do so.
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