Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1097

#101 | Regaro_Ukiera | Posted 8/7/2013 9:52:11 AM | message detail
CasanovaZelos posted...
I meant that as a compliment. I don't usually learn a new word from video game message boards.

So, is rallying Teemo among the LoL fanbase similar to trying to rally Zelda fans to vote for Tingle?


yes. if not, it should be
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#102 | xp1337 | Posted 8/7/2013 9:52:59 AM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
If you hover over the text says "26 days ago", you will see the message "Fri Jul 12 04:48:34 2013 UTC" pop-up in your browser. Based on that, the Draven rally was posted around 12:48 AM EST and the rally didn't start to pick up until after 3:00 AM.

All right, that's what I was thinking. Us not seeing a Teemo rally materialize in the votes right now isn't necessarily indicative of "no rally is coming."

Actually, if a Teemo rally does end up coming it'd be fairly interesting to note that in both cases the very first rally attempts seemingly failed or had a slow start. It'd suggest that the rally can't be mobilized immediately and will "waste" some time starting up in any given match.
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#103 | raginbull911 | Posted 8/7/2013 9:55:43 AM | message detail
I've been saying since the Draven match that the LoL fanbase detests Teemo and will more than likely anti-vote him if a rally is held. I don't expect L-Block to fall below 55%.
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#104 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/7/2013 9:55:59 AM | message detail
CasanovaZelos posted...
I meant that as a compliment. I don't usually learn a new word from video game message boards.

So, is rallying Teemo among the LoL fanbase similar to trying to rally Zelda fans to vote for Tingle?


No. Unlike Tingle (who owns BTW), a surprisingly large portion of the LoL playerbase likes Teemo. There's a reason RIOT sells plushies of him. It's just that another part of the fanbase dislikes him, because it was an injoke to hate Teemo (hence RIOT posting Teemo Death Counts on their growth updates) that became serious when some maroons missed the point of the joke.
#105 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/7/2013 9:58:07 AM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
-LusterSoldier- posted...
If you hover over the text says "26 days ago", you will see the message "Fri Jul 12 04:48:34 2013 UTC" pop-up in your browser. Based on that, the Draven rally was posted around 12:48 AM EST and the rally didn't start to pick up until after 3:00 AM.

All right, that's what I was thinking. Us not seeing a Teemo rally materialize in the votes right now isn't necessarily indicative of "no rally is coming."

Actually, if a Teemo rally does end up coming it'd be fairly interesting to note that in both cases the very first rally attempts seemingly failed or had a slow start. It'd suggest that the rally can't be mobilized immediately and will "waste" some time starting up in any given match.


Which is why I'm thinking the Draven rally's planning phase should start around Mario/Duke and the topics trying to convince RIOT to help should start around halfway Division 9, or thereabouts. We want to see Draven storm out of the gate with the power of his adoring fans, not flop for three hours against serious entrants.
#106 | raginbull911 | Posted 8/7/2013 9:59:55 AM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
CasanovaZelos posted...
I meant that as a compliment. I don't usually learn a new word from video game message boards.

So, is rallying Teemo among the LoL fanbase similar to trying to rally Zelda fans to vote for Tingle?


No. Unlike Tingle (who owns BTW), a surprisingly large portion of the LoL playerbase likes Teemo. There's a reason RIOT sells plushies of him. It's just that another part of the fanbase dislikes him, because it was an injoke to hate Teemo (hence RIOT posting Teemo Death Counts on their growth updates) that became serious when some maroons missed the point of the joke.


The problem with this line of thinking is that Teemo is probably at best a net neutral when balancing rally votes with rally anti-votes due to the bipolar emotions he gives off in the LoL community. This is especially so when against a recognizable game like Tetris, whereas Draven had to deal with the, while excellent, not immediately recognizable competition of Jak and Chie. Teemo will need to be a HUGE net positive with a rally to stand even a puncher's chance.
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#107 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/7/2013 10:01:19 AM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
xp1337 posted...
-LusterSoldier- posted...
If you hover over the text says "26 days ago", you will see the message "Fri Jul 12 04:48:34 2013 UTC" pop-up in your browser. Based on that, the Draven rally was posted around 12:48 AM EST and the rally didn't start to pick up until after 3:00 AM.

All right, that's what I was thinking. Us not seeing a Teemo rally materialize in the votes right now isn't necessarily indicative of "no rally is coming."

Actually, if a Teemo rally does end up coming it'd be fairly interesting to note that in both cases the very first rally attempts seemingly failed or had a slow start. It'd suggest that the rally can't be mobilized immediately and will "waste" some time starting up in any given match.


Which is why I'm thinking the Draven rally's planning phase should start around Mario/Duke and the topics trying to convince RIOT to help should start around halfway Division 9, or thereabouts. We want to see Draven storm out of the gate with the power of his adoring fans, not flop for three hours against serious entrants.


no we want to see Draven flop for 12 hours against serious entrants
#108 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/7/2013 10:01:31 AM | message detail
I don't buy that, because I am a firm believer int he silent majority. The dudes who said they weren't voting for Draven in the topics and reddits were the majority, and yet he did swing the match completely. I think Teemo is similar, though admittedly he has a bigger hatebase. He's not, like, Urgot or something who won't have any rally power.
#109 | xp1337 | Posted 8/7/2013 10:02:45 AM | message detail
Kind of makes me thankful that I just want Teemo to get to second. He can split his rally with L-Block all he wants, my Expert Challenge wants L-Block winning and that scenario is just fine for pushing Teemo into second!

I'd be pretty stunned if Teemo beat L-Block at this point. I'll never rule it out this early, but L-Block is looking great to win here IMO.
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#110 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/7/2013 10:02:58 AM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
xp1337 posted...
-LusterSoldier- posted...
If you hover over the text says "26 days ago", you will see the message "Fri Jul 12 04:48:34 2013 UTC" pop-up in your browser. Based on that, the Draven rally was posted around 12:48 AM EST and the rally didn't start to pick up until after 3:00 AM.

All right, that's what I was thinking. Us not seeing a Teemo rally materialize in the votes right now isn't necessarily indicative of "no rally is coming."

Actually, if a Teemo rally does end up coming it'd be fairly interesting to note that in both cases the very first rally attempts seemingly failed or had a slow start. It'd suggest that the rally can't be mobilized immediately and will "waste" some time starting up in any given match.


Which is why I'm thinking the Draven rally's planning phase should start around Mario/Duke and the topics trying to convince RIOT to help should start around halfway Division 9, or thereabouts. We want to see Draven storm out of the gate with the power of his adoring fans, not flop for three hours against serious entrants.


no we want to see Draven flop for 12 hours against serious entrants


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#111 | vcharon | Posted 8/7/2013 10:05:31 AM | message detail
Teemo plummeting now.
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#112 | PhoenixNine | Posted 8/7/2013 10:06:11 AM | message detail
Draven does it all, with style.

Teemo can rot in hell.
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#113 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/7/2013 10:06:16 AM | message detail
Jak lead on Draven 65 minutes in: 1369
L-Block lead right now: 2361
for those who want to keep track
#114 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/7/2013 10:06:26 AM | message detail
Looks like the first rally is dying
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#115 | xp1337 | Posted 8/7/2013 10:06:59 AM | message detail
I mean, I'm confident enough in L-Block winning here that I'm legitimately more worried that Teemo's rally doesn't show and he loses to Palutena than I am that it shows up strong enough to beat L-Block. Not sure I'd be comfortable attacking % chances to these scenarios though.
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#116 | armitage999 | Posted 8/7/2013 10:07:11 AM | message detail
Good grief L- Block's taking Teemo to the woodshed. Petaluma's holding steady at least!
#117 | UltimaterializerX (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/7/2013 10:08:29 AM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
Jak lead on Draven 65 minutes in: 1369
L-Block lead right now: 2361
for those who want to keep track


Was just about to post this, but I maintain the LoL people hate Teemo and would just vote for the block in any serious rally.
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#118 | armitage999 | Posted 8/7/2013 10:09:06 AM | message detail
Damn autocorrect, it's Petaluna!
#119 | armitage999 | Posted 8/7/2013 10:10:23 AM | message detail
Okay I'm having a hard time spelling her name right now.
#120 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/7/2013 10:11:45 AM | message detail
armitage999 posted...
Okay I'm having a hard time spelling her name right now.


:lol
#121 | vcharon | Posted 8/7/2013 10:12:13 AM | message detail
So were these dying rallies the only thing keeping Teemo afloat even at THAT percentage?
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#122 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/7/2013 10:12:58 AM | message detail
This makes Draven's next match more complicated, was it a one time thing or will fans give up when they see Draven so far behind or will they go for the win.
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#123 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 8/7/2013 10:14:26 AM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
This makes Draven's next match more complicated, was it a one time thing or will fans give up when they see Draven so far behind or will they go for the win.


I don't think the concept of these massive numbers gets through to people. Remember how many people in the rally thread though Missile could win?
#124 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/7/2013 10:15:03 AM | message detail
raginbull911 posted...
I've been saying since the Draven match that the LoL fanbase detests Teemo and will more than likely anti-vote him if a rally is held. I don't expect L-Block to fall below 55%.


Here we go with excuses
It doesn't matter if it's Teemo or Draven or Ashe or Annie or whatever LoL Champion
Put Teemo in Draven match and he would do the same thing
The problem is that he is against an opponent that worth something
Most of us picked Draven over Jak and we were surprised to see how bad Draven was
We did not expect rally,we just presumed that Jak is terrible and Draven won...just how I expected him to
Jak is one of those contest losers together with Laharal that are always pathetic weak even against "fair" opponents
#125 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 8/7/2013 10:19:11 AM | message detail
Teemo down 2674 votes. Draven never trailed by that much.
#126 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/7/2013 10:21:42 AM | message detail
TheOneAboveAll posted...
Teemo down 2674 votes. Draven never trailed by that much.


L-Block lead at 80 minutes: 2842
Jak lead: 1606

yup
#127 | swordz9 | Posted 8/7/2013 10:22:42 AM | message detail
Draven was even below Chie by over 1,000 votes at one point during the match.
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#128 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/7/2013 10:23:10 AM | message detail
But Jak match was night match so the vote totals (and thus the lead) were lower...
#129 | spooky96 | Posted 8/7/2013 10:24:01 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
But Jak match was night match so the vote totals (and thus the lead) were lower...


Difference isn't absurdly significant either however.
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#130 | xp1337 | Posted 8/7/2013 10:24:13 AM | message detail
TheOneAboveAll posted...
Teemo down 2674 votes. Draven never trailed by that much.

Draven ended up winning by just under 3000 though so in theory he could have come back from more.

Though whether such a gap would discourage a rally attempt is another matter.
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#131 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/7/2013 10:24:27 AM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
All right, that's what I was thinking. Us not seeing a Teemo rally materialize in the votes right now isn't necessarily indicative of "no rally is coming."

Actually, if a Teemo rally does end up coming it'd be fairly interesting to note that in both cases the very first rally attempts seemingly failed or had a slow start. It'd suggest that the rally can't be mobilized immediately and will "waste" some time starting up in any given match.


I think it took a while for the Draven rally to finally produce huge spikes in Draven's vote intake because the topic on Reddit became more noticeable as more people started to comment on the topic.

If you checked out this page right now, you wouldn't even see the Teemo rally at all:

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/

But as more and more people comment on the Teemo rally topic, the rally topic will eventually appear on the hottest topics section and then more people will be aware of the Teemo rally.
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#132 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/7/2013 10:25:12 AM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
TheOneAboveAll posted...
Teemo down 2674 votes. Draven never trailed by that much.

Draven ended up winning by just under 3000 though so in theory he could have come back from more.

Though whether such a gap would discourage a rally attempt is another matter.


there's also the fact that the "natural" voters favor L-Block by a larger margin, which could cancel that 3000 on its own
#133 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/7/2013 10:26:04 AM | message detail
Why are people just calculating Jak>Draven even though it was Jak>Chie>Draven
I think peak lead of Jak was 2582 over Draven
#134 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/7/2013 10:26:58 AM | message detail
lol LoL

Finally people are starting to realize that rallies are pointless when you have strong likable characters also in the poll. Draven takes a distant third in his next match.
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#135 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 8/7/2013 10:27:24 AM | message detail
3000-vote barrier activated.
#136 | xp1337 | Posted 8/7/2013 10:27:48 AM | message detail
I didn't meant to imply you could translate that over to this match. And even if you could somehow, then yeah, it's not as simple a matter of tacking on 3000 here as if nothing changed when you switched matches.

I'm just saying, in theory Draven could have trailed Jak by more than he did and still came back. Even then it shouldn't be as simple as 3000 more unless you further add in the rally probably doesn't let up at the end in such a scenario.
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#137 | spooky96 | Posted 8/7/2013 10:28:15 AM | message detail
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#138 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/7/2013 10:28:22 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
Why are people just calculating Jak>Draven even though it was Jak>Chie>Draven
I think peak lead of Jak was 2582 over Draven


we're comparing L-Block/Teemo and Jak/Draven for the corresponding leads
in which L-Block is already at 3000, while Jak was up 1681 at this time
#139 | backinblack167 | Posted 8/7/2013 10:29:16 AM | message detail
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#140 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/7/2013 10:31:13 AM | message detail
Finally people are starting to realize that rallies are pointless when you have strong likable characters also in the poll. Draven takes a distant third in his next match.

L-Block is about as neutral as they come and Palutena would not have done much better than Jak/Chie
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#141 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/7/2013 10:31:32 AM | message detail
This keeps getting pointed out but I'm going to say it again, Draven has zero chance in the next round.

X and Ryu are legitimately much stronger than him as is, so not only will a rally have to bridge a MASSIVE gap, but it will also have to fight against the fact that these are two likable iconic characters that most of the LoL fanbase probably knows and likes too. Such was not the case with Chie and Jak.

I'd love to see him put up a fight and make that match interesting but there's simply no way he doesn't get blown out of the water.
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#142 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/7/2013 10:32:29 AM | message detail
I only wish that Teemo and Draven had switched bracket spots. I'd love to see Draven try and pull something off against L-Block, that could've truly been a great match.
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#143 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/7/2013 10:32:40 AM | message detail
Draven's pre-rallied strength is being doubled by Chie.

The extent of rallied votes he needs to prevail will only be getting more ridiculous each round. Especially as the early vote will bury him.
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#144 | ChaosUnown | Posted 8/7/2013 10:32:42 AM | message detail
I'm going to assume the L-Block lead is a giant troll to try and get it to win, because this is by far the most retarded match up in the entire world.
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#145 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 8/7/2013 10:34:22 AM | message detail
ChaosUnown posted...
I'm going to assume the L-Block lead is a giant troll to try and get it to win, because this is by far the most retarded match up in the entire world.


This guy knows what's up! L-Block for second 2+ time champ!
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#146 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/7/2013 10:34:40 AM | message detail
I'm going to assume the L-Block lead is a giant troll to try and get it to win, because this is by far the most r******* match up in the entire world.

Nah, it's just up against a bunch of nobodies.
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#147 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/7/2013 10:35:27 AM | message detail
ChaosUnown posted...
I'm going to assume the L-Block lead is a giant troll to try and get it to win, because this is by far the most retarded match up in the entire world.


Considering Palutena is likely mid-fodder at best, L-Block doesn't exactly look good here.
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#148 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/7/2013 10:36:09 AM | message detail
ExThaNemesis posted...
I only wish that Teemo and Draven had switched bracket spots. I'd love to see Draven try and pull something off against L-Block, that could've truly been a great match.


haha, Teemo dies off and Draven gets shanked in the day
I'd take it
#149 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/7/2013 10:36:30 AM | message detail
I wouldn't count L-Block out next round, either. Ezio and Auron both underwhelmed in their matches and we don't need reminded about Block's multi-way shenanigans.
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#150 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 8/7/2013 10:37:03 AM | message detail
Dammit ExTha don't jinx it.
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