Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1097

#451 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/7/2013 6:14:05 PM | message detail
They did some damage control, but people generally are still not very happy with it.
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#452 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/7/2013 6:14:32 PM | message detail
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
ZFS posted...
I think the Xbox backlash he's talking about is the Xbox One/Microsoft stuff, which is definitely a huge thing.


I must be out of the loop, because I thought Microsoft backpeddled on the always on thing?


the backlash, while diminished, is still with them
especially with Kinect still there
#453 | kinsho3 | Posted 8/7/2013 6:21:59 PM | message detail | (edited)
I personally think picking Tom Nook to outright win the match is not too bad a gamble.

Newer characters have been bombing in the worst way in this contest - Reyn, Dunbar, Shulk, Handsome Jack, Booker DeWitt, Elizabeth, Clementine, Lee Everett, Groose.....it's not good to be a new character in this contest, let alone a character without a defined appearance.

Tom Nook is nothing but fodder, but I think the recent release of New Leaf, along with his Nintendo lineage and the fact that he stands out like a sore thumb in the match pic may be enough to put him over into the second round.
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#454 | Surskit | Posted 8/7/2013 6:24:46 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
also, wtf is a Pyramid Head


Only one of the best monsters in gaming, if not the best! Play Silent Hill 2 already, you won't regret it.
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#455 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/7/2013 6:29:33 PM | message detail
Chief is going to come in last.
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#456 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 8/7/2013 6:31:52 PM | message detail
ExThaNemesis posted...
Man I am excited for Dragonborn tonight.

What would you guys need to see from him in order to make him a favorite in Round 2 (against the FF girls, mind. If it's Chief there instead I realize he's probably got no chance).


Making it out of round 1 would be a nice start, since I'd already be forced to concede that he's far stronger than I expected!
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#457 | xp1337 | Posted 8/7/2013 6:33:27 PM | message detail
I switched to Tom Nook > Pyramid head solely because I figure being the sole Nintendo rep is good enough to pull in enough % to keep out of last. I'm not sure it's the best comparison, but Palutena makes me feel better about this. If Nook can get to 25% I just figure that's good. The only problem is if Dragonborn is just awful that could leave room for that to go bad.

...But even then if Dragonborn is that bad I see Nook coming out ahead there on similar reasoning for when I took Tharja. I'll take advantage Nintendo if it comes down to 3 fodder characters.

But really something like 50/30/20 or 60/25/15 seems more likely to me.
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#458 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 8/7/2013 6:34:09 PM | message detail
raginbull911 posted...
Fr0zoN posted...
Yeah this is making Draven's round 1 performance very hard to believe. It's very hard to get a rally to make as much difference as in Draven's match and then you look at how terrible Teemo is doing........

To bring about the Draven swing you need a rabid fanbase and surely if the LoL fanbase cares that much to rally that amount of votes for him then Teemo would be the same.

Biggest red flag is how Draven completely dominated Europe and then you look at Teemo today and he SUCKS there. Jak won 40>31 in the US so Europe must of swung that match and then suddenly they dont care at all about LoL in this match?


It's not that hard to believe. In fact, anyone saying that Draven was obviously vote stuffed and there were shenanigans aren't looking at the details.

Here's the rally topic for Draven from last month: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1i4u4m/support_draven_in_the_gamefaqs_character_battle/

Hit the front page of the subreddit, nearly 700 upvotes for visibility, 187 comments in the thread (and many more clickthroughs to the poll where people didn't comment). Even if some of the comments said they weren't voting for Draven, this thread had front page status on a MASSIVE subreddit (300k+ subscribers). Considering the thread had peak visibility at 3-5AM EST, it's not a surprise that Draven finished behind Jak in the US. Look at the heat map: Draven won 4 states, 3 of which were California, Washington, and Hawaii (and he was only .5% behind in Oregon) West coast was still awake between midnight and 2AM, and not coincidentally Draven took the WC + Hawaii easily.

Here's the rally topic for Teemo started 3 hours ago:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1jw45q/support_teemo_in_gamefaqs_character_battle/

Nothing even close to the front page, so very little visibility (I actually had to search for "Teemo" using the search option and find it, and even then it was only the third most relevant Teemo post from today) . 14 upvotes, 8 comments in the thread (all anti-Teemo, incidentally). Given what Devin Morgan said about the Draven rally being almost entirely from Reddit, it's no surpise that Teemo is flopping as bad given how nobody wanted to upvote the thread.

I found this gem from a Reddit user in the Teemo topic; so much GameFAQs hate!

Your average 12 hour poll is getting 20-25k total votes. This subreddit alone has 327k subscribers. If 8% of this subreddit see a frontpage thread and go vote for Draven, he could probably crush Link TBH (They'll meet in round 3 if both win next round). Not to mention any random thread that goes big in GD, especially if it gets a Riot post. I doubt any rally could get enough momentum however, but the possibility is there and the tears from GameFAQs users who study these contests like they're Ph.D courses would be hilarious if Link lost in round 3


GameFAQs hate? Sounds more like Board 8 hate!
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#459 | xp1337 | Posted 8/7/2013 6:36:20 PM | message detail
and the tears from GameFAQs users who study these contests like they're Ph.D courses would be hilarious if Link lost in round 3

this just seems like such a small subset of users.

i'm not sure i'll ever "get" this kind of reasoning.
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#460 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/7/2013 6:37:38 PM | message detail
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
I went with The Chief and haven't looked back. New Square looking like crap aside, Chief has had Halo 4 since last contest, and I don't think "Xbox backlash" or whatever you're calling it actually exists. Additionally, we're looking at a day match, and we all know Chief is one of the best characters in the day.

Also, the biggest factor of them all, Claire/Luna ass SFF


I am so glad we are recognizing ass LFF as a thing.
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#461 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 8/7/2013 6:39:45 PM | message detail
CrushDavis posted...
I can't wait to see how high Dragonborn goes tonight.. with how weak Tom and Pyramid Head are, I'm thinking about 60% (since I expect he'll be about Shepard strength).


ExThaNemesis posted...
I'm hoping Dragonborn can lay down over 70% on these fodderific fools. He's gonna need something very legit, and I honestly think he can do it.


I'd been conceding that he'll probably get second, but after seeing all of these comments, I'm hoping Pyramid Head can pull the upset for second place and push him into third!

charmander6000 posted...
Dragonborn's opponents are weak, Tom Nook was doubled by Marcus Fenix.

I think he is going to flop and even then I feel he could break 50% on these guys.


"Doubled by Marcus Fenix" still sounds good enough to beat Dragonborn to me! The more stupid comments like this I see, the more my hatred builds; we've now officially reached the point where Dragonborn merely breaking 10% will make me unhappy!
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#462 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/7/2013 6:41:10 PM | message detail
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#463 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/7/2013 6:41:36 PM | message detail
also LMAO those reddit clowns thinking we'll be upset if Link loses in round three.

Please, PLEASE troll us.
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#464 | xp1337 | Posted 8/7/2013 6:42:10 PM | message detail
Dragonborn could be turbofodder and he's still probably good for at least 20% here.

just look at that competition.
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#465 | Sorozone | Posted 8/7/2013 6:42:47 PM | message detail
That person who posted that probably is from B8, tbh.
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#466 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 8/7/2013 6:50:33 PM | message detail
Lopen posted...
For what it's worth while I loved my Dragonborn(s) I won't actually be voting it in the contest over much of anything because that lamer guy with the iron helmet is not close to any of the characters I made.

I'm not sure I'm your typical Skyrim voter though. I just feel like unlike the likes of Commander Shepard the Dragonborn is too freestyle personalitywise to really feel a connection with if the pic is completely wrong. Like you can make ten different characters and have a different idea for all of them. With Shepard while there is some freedom in how you play the character does fall within certain personality limits to an extent.


Lopen just summed up my reasons for expecting Dragonborn to be weak. Infinitely customizable characters have nowhere to go but to crash and burn. Although I already know I'm going to be disappointed because you guys have instilled me with too much hatred; I know that he's going to be stronger than I want him to be!

pjbasis posted...
Decided to take Pyramid over Tom Nook.

I was scared because New Leaf has gotten great reception while Silent HIll has s*** to go on, but Pyramid is pretty iconic and people just like him more than Nook.


...I think it's pretty safe to take Pyramid Head for third. Though I'm hoping he can at least beat out Dragonborn!

raginbull911 posted...
I enjoyed FF8.. it's a hard game to replay though unless you're able to run with some of the wacky plot theories out there like Rinoa=Ultimecia and Squall is dead after the first disc and adjust your perceptions accordingly. I find the other FF's (at least before 11) to be more replayable.


Ah, yes. Leonhart hates those theories. I find them quite entertaining! ...Besides, even if those were true, the plot would still be considerably less insane than most Kingdom Hearts games!

LeonhartFour posted...
I know Squall doesn't take off his shirt enough for you, but don't hold that against him!


Yeah, like we really need another Tidus. Squall doesn't need to go shirtless to be awesome!

kinsho3 posted...
Anyway, next match.

Tom Nook > Dragonborn > Pyramid Head looks like a sexy expert pick to make right about now....


Yeah, that's mine. STF working in Nook's favor, being a cheery raccoon in a brightly-colored sweater wedged between ugly gray thing and ugly brown thing.
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#467 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/7/2013 6:51:32 PM | message detail
ExThaNemesis posted...
also LMAO those reddit clowns thinking we'll be upset if Link loses in round three.

Please, PLEASE troll us.


but what if LoL pulls reverse psychology
by rallying Link over Snake in the finals :O
#468 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 8/7/2013 6:56:15 PM | message detail
ExThaNemesis posted...
Gonna be a good day tomorrow, we get to see Dragonborn in action and then see if Yuna can withstand the mASSive LFF from Claire.


Aw hell yeah.

Qwaar posted...
I thought Pyramid Head beating Nook was a lock, but I'm guessing if anything It's the other way around?


Oh yeah.

Then00bAvenger posted...
I changed from Pyramid Head > Nook to No Pick

I honestly don't see people caring enough about Tom Nook to vote him into second but with the recent Animal Crossing game, I don't know


I might consider No-Picking second and third, but it'd be Nook in first!

ExThaNemesis posted...
also LMAO those reddit clowns thinking we'll be upset if Link loses in round three.

Please, PLEASE troll us.


Hear, hear!

About the only time in which Board 8 would actually rejoice about their brackets being busted.
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#469 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/7/2013 7:00:27 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
ExThaNemesis posted...
also LMAO those reddit clowns thinking we'll be upset if Link loses in round three.

Please, PLEASE troll us.


but what if LoL pulls reverse psychology
by rallying Link over Snake in the finals :O


It's redundant. One of the preposterous things that happens when Link is ever threatened is he gets rallied, it's part of his intrinsic strength. People rallied for Link when Cloud beat him, they rallied when L beat him, they rallied when Snake was beating him... People rallied for Link over Jay Solano.
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#470 | CrushDavis | Posted 8/7/2013 7:03:21 PM | message detail
TsunamiXXVIII posted...
ExThaNemesis posted...
Man I am excited for Dragonborn tonight.

What would you guys need to see from him in order to make him a favorite in Round 2 (against the FF girls, mind. If it's Chief there instead I realize he's probably got no chance).


Making it out of round 1 would be a nice start, since I'd already be forced to concede that he's far stronger than I expected!


The main character of potentially the most popular game of the gen beating turbofodder shouldn't be a surprise to you. Freaking Lloyd doubled Nook.
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#471 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/7/2013 7:03:50 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
1337gamerpr0 posted...
ExThaNemesis posted...
also LMAO those reddit clowns thinking we'll be upset if Link loses in round three.

Please, PLEASE troll us.


but what if LoL pulls reverse psychology
by rallying Link over Snake in the finals :O


It's redundant. One of the preposterous things that happens when Link is ever threatened is he gets rallied, it's part of his intrinsic strength. People rallied for Link when Cloud beat him, they rallied when L beat him, they rallied when Snake was beating him... People rallied for Link over Jay Solano.


so what you're saying is we'll get to see Link rallies and Draven rallies go head-to-head
#472 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/7/2013 7:05:45 PM | message detail
Draven's getting killed by X. Stop this madness!
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#473 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/7/2013 7:06:11 PM | message detail
#474 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/7/2013 7:09:32 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Ryu got this


MMX gonna Ryu SFF into the ground so Draven can't do anything
#475 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/7/2013 7:09:53 PM | message detail
MMX gonna SFF Ryu
stupid lack of an edit function
#476 | kinsho3 | Posted 8/7/2013 7:10:18 PM | message detail
CrushDavis posted...
The main character of potentially the most popular game of the gen beating turbofodder shouldn't be a surprise to you. Freaking Lloyd doubled Nook.


It really wouldn't be much of a surprise if he did end up beating Tom Nook and Pyramid Head, but I can guarantee you one thing - he will not be winning by an impressive margin.
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#477 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/7/2013 7:11:22 PM | message detail
LOL people thinking there'll be SFF between MMX and Ryu
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#478 | Ytterbium_70 | Posted 8/7/2013 7:12:15 PM | message detail
All Pyramid Head needs is 15-17%, and Silent Hill is pretty consistent as far as percentages go!

Still, New Leaf Nook scares me
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#479 | CrushDavis | Posted 8/7/2013 7:12:44 PM | message detail
kinsho3 posted...
CrushDavis posted...
The main character of potentially the most popular game of the gen beating turbofodder shouldn't be a surprise to you. Freaking Lloyd doubled Nook.


It really wouldn't be much of a surprise if he did end up beating Tom Nook and Pyramid Head, but I can guarantee you one thing - he will not be winning by an impressive margin.


Well, we'll see. I do admit I'm kinda worried how strong he'll be.. I'm hoping he's Shepard level but that might be a stretch. But theres only so low he can go against this kinda competition. Even if he's barely above fodder level he should get 45-50%, and thats probably worst case scenario.
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#480 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/7/2013 7:13:51 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
MMX gonna SFF Ryu
stupid lack of an edit function


What possible justification is there for MMX SFFing Ryu? Because they're both Capcom characters? I'm not buying it. MMX gets 43% there, Ryu gets 40%, and Draven gets 17%.

If it's any closer than that, I will be shocked.
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#481 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/7/2013 7:16:05 PM | message detail
kinsho3 posted...
CrushDavis posted...
The main character of potentially the most popular game of the gen beating turbofodder shouldn't be a surprise to you. Freaking Lloyd doubled Nook.


It really wouldn't be much of a surprise if he did end up beating Tom Nook and Pyramid Head, but I can guarantee you one thing - he will not be winning by an impressive margin.


If Dragonborn fails to break 45% then he doesn't deserve to be in any more contest matches.
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#482 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/7/2013 7:19:45 PM | message detail
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
kinsho3 posted...
CrushDavis posted...
The main character of potentially the most popular game of the gen beating turbofodder shouldn't be a surprise to you. Freaking Lloyd doubled Nook.


It really wouldn't be much of a surprise if he did end up beating Tom Nook and Pyramid Head, but I can guarantee you one thing - he will not be winning by an impressive margin.


If Dragonborn fails to break 45% then he doesn't deserve to be in any more contest matches.


I will agree with this. If he can't get at least 55% then I will be so shocked.
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#483 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/7/2013 7:21:36 PM | message detail
Match LXI: (3) Dragonborn vs. (16) Tom Nook vs. (25) Pyramid Head

Previous Contest

Dragonborn – N/A
N/A

Tom Nook – 2008
8.65% against Mega Man X, Mudkip and Lloyd Irving

Pyramid Head – 2007
16.18% against Auron, Shadow the Hedgehog and Chris Redfield

Analysis

This marks the half-way point of our contest, only 60 more matches before we crown our next champion. It is about time we got an Elder Scrolls character in this contest and while Skyrim has looked impressive in all of its non-contest poll performances I do not expect much out of Dragonborn. I believe he will have some strength, but I do not see coming close to a LFF Tifa. Lucky for him this match is easy enough for him to win even if he does flop to our expectations.

I am surprised that there has not been more debate for second in this match. While he did get crushed by Bowser in the villain’s contest he did put up a much better performance in 2007. The main issue is his appearances lately have not been as big compared to Silent Hill 2. In his 2008 game he was more of a random enemy called the bogeyman. No support for that long is only going to make him weaker.

Tom Nook has been a bit unfortunate in his previous contest essentially placed up against 3 Nintendo supported characters. Still the guy does not have much strength as he got doubled by Marcus Fenix in 2007, though to his defence Marcus had decent strength back then. Nook has had a couple of Animal Crossing games released since then and the series has become better known by the Nintendo fanbase.

Had Tom Nook been announced to the new Super Smash Bros. I would take him for second place without much thought. I still feel he will take second, but I would not be surprised if Pyramid Head surprises us again and takes the upset. Regardless Dragonborn would need a very good performance if he wants to remain in the discussion for an upset.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Dragonborn > Tom Nook and Pyramid Head

charmander6000’s Prediction: Dragonborn – 53.89%, Tom Nook – 26.77%, Pyramid Head – 19.34%
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#484 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/7/2013 7:24:00 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
LOL people thinking there'll be SFF between MMX and Ryu


I'm joking
still hoping for it though
#485 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 8/7/2013 7:36:36 PM | message detail
The topic title for the new topic isn't even consistent.
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#486 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/7/2013 7:37:40 PM | message detail
#487 | DoctorJimmy133 | Posted 8/7/2013 7:51:25 PM | message detail
Okay, B8, you've convinced me to change from Dragon>Pyramid>Nook to Dragon>Nook>Pyramid. Don't make me regret this.
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#488 | Articuno2001 | Posted 8/7/2013 7:51:42 PM | message detail
It's probably the better pick.
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#489 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 8/7/2013 7:55:03 PM | message detail
DoctorJimmy133 posted...
Okay, B8, you've convinced me to change from Dragon>Pyramid>Nook to Dragon>Nook>Pyramid. Don't make me regret this.


Oh man you're gonna get so screwed.
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#490 | 2Dover3D | Posted 8/7/2013 7:56:17 PM | message detail
I'd be pretty surprised if Nook loses there. At least he has a new game, but Pyramid Head hasn't been relevant in forever.
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#491 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/7/2013 7:57:00 PM | message detail
time to instill random PyramidFEAR in the masses

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/2869
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#492 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/7/2013 8:00:41 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
time to instill random PyramidFEAR in the masses

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/2869


stop ripping off PokeFEAR
#493 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/7/2013 8:01:49 PM | message detail
I find it funny that Bowser did better than Auron/Shadow/Chris combined.
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#494 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/7/2013 8:02:31 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
time to instill random PyramidFEAR in the masses

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/2869


stop ripping off PokeFEAR


...son, do you even know where PokeFEAR comes from?
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#495 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/7/2013 8:04:33 PM | message detail
45% is no guarantee for Dragonborn, nor should it serve as his pink slip from these contests. Tom Nook might put up a crazy overperformance. He stands out about as much as possible, and neither of his opponents have the slightest tie to Nintendo.
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#496 | swordz9 | Posted 8/7/2013 8:05:19 PM | message detail
Watch Nook somehow win the match and screw everybody over.
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#497 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/7/2013 8:06:01 PM | message detail
Yeah, Tom Nook has the biggest pic advantage in the contest. It's two indistinguishable blobs vs. a raccoon in a snazzy sweater.
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#498 | Articuno2001 | Posted 8/7/2013 8:06:19 PM | message detail
Considering New Leaf's release, it won't be too surprising.
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#499 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 8/7/2013 8:07:28 PM | message detail
FUS RO DAH!
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#500 | Articuno2001 | Posted 8/7/2013 8:07:33 PM | message detail
On that note, play Animal Crossing: New Leaf.
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