Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1096

#251 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 8/6/2013 9:16:32 PM | message detail
Xuxon posted...
no, it's been changed. click this and refresh, should fix it on the main page.

http://img.gamefaqs.net/images/cbnine/battle/5201.jpg


Thank you. Fixed. That was weird.
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#252 | creativename | Posted 8/6/2013 9:18:19 PM | message detail
This is supposed to be a younger 70's version of Ocelot, right? Why does he look so old?
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#253 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/6/2013 9:18:20 PM | message detail
Right now Ocelot is doing better against Auron than what he did against Kratos in 2008.

KH LFF or FFX also weaker?
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#254 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/6/2013 9:22:46 PM | message detail | (edited)
creativename posted...
This is supposed to be a younger 70's version of Ocelot, right? Why does he look so old?


http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18qn0vy5bw43tjpg/ku-xlarge.jpg

This is the original Ocelot model. It just came out unflatteringly for him in this match pic.
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#255 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/6/2013 9:20:12 PM | message detail
This is supposed to be a younger 70's version of Ocelot, right? Why does he look so old?

Some people go gray in their 30s

>_>
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#256 | hylianknight3 | Posted 8/6/2013 9:21:00 PM | message detail
lol ocelot more like fossilot
#257 | Sorozone | Posted 8/6/2013 9:21:36 PM | message detail
Probably a mixture of both LFF, and it got weaker by virtue of low votals.
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#258 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/6/2013 9:21:42 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
Right now Ocelot is doing better against Auron than what he did against Kratos in 2008.

KH LFF or FFX also weaker?


Ocelot being stronger is also a possibility if you assume he increased from 2008 to 2010 roughly the same as Snake did from MGS4 sales. Right now I'm leaning toward some of this being FFX weakening, though. All post-FF7 Square has to be viewed as suspect right now.
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#259 | Sorozone | Posted 8/6/2013 9:22:48 PM | message detail
All FFX fans left the site once it lost in GOTD. Obviously.
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#260 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/6/2013 9:23:20 PM | message detail
This performance would make Mega Man X about as strong as Mega Man
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#261 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/6/2013 9:24:03 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
This performance would make Mega Man X about as strong as Mega Man


...dammit why did I pick Ryu
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#262 | creativename | Posted 8/6/2013 9:24:38 PM | message detail
hylianknight3 posted...
lol ocelot more like fossilot

Hah, I like that :) I was thinking Oldcelot but I like this better.

Karma Hunter posted...
charmander6000 posted...
Right now Ocelot is doing better against Auron than what he did against Kratos in 2008.

KH LFF or FFX also weaker?


Ocelot being stronger is also a possibility if you assume he increased from 2008 to 2010 roughly the same as Snake did from MGS4 sales. Right now I'm leaning toward some of this being FFX weakening, though. All post-FF7 Square has to be viewed as suspect right now.

Probably an "all of the above" thing...mainly I think it would probably be Ocelot boosting, with some LFF, and maybe some Auron weakening. But if I had to guess it's mostly Ocelot boosting.
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#263 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/6/2013 9:25:08 PM | message detail
Based on a constant Roxas Sub-Zero does get 41.39% on Auron, not too far from his actual performance.
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#264 | Xuxon | Posted 8/6/2013 9:29:29 PM | message detail
i think it's Auron weakening, or at least temporary weakening by Roxas. i initially predicted him to be around Ryu level for this match and he's right there.
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#265 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/6/2013 9:36:13 PM | message detail | (edited)
I figured Ocelot would have had to have boosted at least a little from the full MGS4 effect. By far, it's the most important role he's ever had in an MGS game and so he's potentially underrated. Could have done some real damage somewhere else (like so many other entrants...).

...this still doesn't explain why he lost to Jill when he was coming right off MGS4. Nothing really will.
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#266 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/6/2013 9:35:56 PM | message detail
Everything associated with new Square, except FF9 which is more loved by older fans, seems to have weakened.

I'm really starting to wonder how bad Lightning might look.
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#267 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/6/2013 9:36:59 PM | message detail
Only explanation I can think of is Cloud hurt Jill more than Ocelot in 2007 and Ocelot's boost was not enough to make up the difference at the time.

Funny enough Jill/Ocelot would still be a close match based off of Roxas.
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#268 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/6/2013 9:39:44 PM | message detail
I'm really starting to wonder how bad Lightning might look.

Depends on where you feel Lightning went after 2010, did the hype exceed what the game could do for her and if so where will she rank and can Falco hold Donkey Kong back enough.
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#269 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/6/2013 9:41:21 PM | message detail
I know I shouldn't think this way because it's just wrong statistically. But. Has Donkey Kong ever come through in a debatable match? Aya Brea doesn't count
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#270 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/6/2013 9:43:09 PM | message detail
Against Duck Hunt

>_>
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#271 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/6/2013 9:44:31 PM | message detail
...am I seriously going to see Auron lose updates to Revolver Ocelot tonight because that's what it looks like it might come to
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#272 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/6/2013 9:44:53 PM | message detail
The best part about this match is that it retroactively makes Red look better!
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#273 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/6/2013 9:46:58 PM | message detail | (edited)
Add actual Pokemon pictures and not Brawl's for Red and he becomes the strongest Pokemon character

Who said the game is not about the trainers?

>_>
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#274 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/6/2013 9:47:55 PM | message detail
It'd be kind of funny if all my b****ing and moaning about Red's Brawl pictures didn't mean anything and he was just actually strong all along.

I mean, as long Red is good, I'll take it!
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#275 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/6/2013 9:47:58 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
I'm really starting to wonder how bad Lightning might look.

Depends on where you feel Lightning went after 2010, did the hype exceed what the game could do for her and if so where will she rank and can Falco hold Donkey Kong back enough.


I've got to say that if I knew new Square would look this bad, I'd have been extremely tempted to take DK despite Falco being there.

But I probably wouldn't have pulled the trigger because lol DK.
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#276 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/6/2013 9:49:00 PM | message detail
I would have taken DK>Lightning rather easily if Falco hadn't sabotaged that poll.
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#277 | Lopen | Posted 8/6/2013 9:49:25 PM | message detail
Auron looking p bad here can't even double flipping Roxas
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#278 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/6/2013 9:50:11 PM | message detail
Lopen posted...
Auron looking p bad here can't even double flipping Roxas


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3811
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/2546

Seems about right.
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#279 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/6/2013 9:50:37 PM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
I would have taken DK>Lightning rather easily if Falco hadn't sabotaged that poll.


Oh, I would have too.

But Falco makes it too close for comfort and DK's close match stigma is always in the back of my mind.
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#280 | Lopen | Posted 8/6/2013 9:50:56 PM | message detail
Not when you consider he should be SFFing him!
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#281 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/6/2013 9:51:04 PM | message detail
Roxas rSFFing Auron's KH2 strength, after all if you'd only played KH2 wouldn't you expect Roxas to be stronger?

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#282 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 8/6/2013 9:52:04 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
I know I shouldn't think this way because it's just wrong statistically. But. Has Donkey Kong ever come through in a debatable match? Aya Brea doesn't count


Does DK. Rool vs. Ezrodigo count?
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#283 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/6/2013 9:52:18 PM | message detail
Eh I think it just means that, despite being from the same company, their fanbases don't overlap very much. Kingdom Hearts tends to stick out a lot from other Square characters. If we can see New Square characters fail to SFF Old Square characters, this doesn't surprise me.
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#284 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/6/2013 9:53:00 PM | message detail
Alright guys, it's happening. I'm gonna do it.

In honor of Ocelot, I'm gonna watch the MGSV trailer.

For the first time.

...

I was getting around to it okay
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#285 | Lopen | Posted 8/6/2013 9:53:12 PM | message detail
I'd buy that but I'm pretty sure we've seen KH vs FF SFF in the past.
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#286 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/6/2013 9:53:57 PM | message detail
Have we? I think we've seen more of the opposite. Sora held up to Squall reeeally well a bunch of times.
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#287 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 8/6/2013 9:54:29 PM | message detail
Lopen posted...
I'd buy that but I'm pretty sure we've seen KH vs FF SFF in the past.


Sora vs. Aeris comes to mind, but KH was pretty new at that point. I think that would go way differently these days (or any time after about 2005).
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#288 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 8/6/2013 10:07:54 PM | message detail | (edited)
Weren't Master Chief and Vercetti supposed to blast Donkey Kong and he surprised people by actually putting up a fight?

Other than that, all Donkey Kong has that you could really hold against him as far as "choking" are losing to Vivi twice (which was very mean of Bacon), and getting LFFed by Marth/Tails to prevent him from probably getting relatively close to Kratos/Tidus. He's been the victim of bad bracket making every year since that Master Chief loss, and Bacon has apparently chosen to continue that tradition this year.
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#289 | Lopen | Posted 8/6/2013 9:55:57 PM | message detail
Vs Squall he did okay but Aeris kinda made him look like a joke and uhhh wasn't he stuck with Cloud who wrecked his face in 2007 or 2008?

I guess I could go look up some brackets... ehh, doesn't matter
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#290 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/6/2013 9:56:45 PM | message detail
Cloud blasted Sora below the fodder line, so FF can easily SFF KH if it's strong enough. In that light, Auron not being able to do anything to Roxas is a bit disappointing.
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#291 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/6/2013 10:10:17 PM | message detail
Man, Auron looking like ass here. Good thing he's not doing anything debateable., except for his second place matchup with Tifa in round 3.
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#292 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/6/2013 10:14:27 PM | message detail
you guys all forgot Donkey Kong's most notable achievement
actually managing to LFF Kirby in 2007, allowing L-Block to advance
#293 | yoyoyoyrlozer | Posted 8/6/2013 10:15:13 PM | message detail
Their percentages are all consecutive multiples of 11, how cute. I find it hard to believe that Auron is actually below 45% here though.
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#294 | LordoftheMorons | Posted 8/6/2013 10:18:11 PM | message detail
Roxas is definitely hurting Auron here. Pretty sure he gets a nonnegligible amount of his strength from KH2.
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#295 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/6/2013 10:35:33 PM | message detail
I still can't believe that people actually like Roxas. And Sora to some extent, but Roxas really?
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#296 | xp1337 | Posted 8/6/2013 10:36:38 PM | message detail
Roxas is the best character in KH!

Unless 3D or Re:coded changed that. But I doubt it!
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#297 | JustForFun1988 | Posted 8/6/2013 10:37:27 PM | message detail
Only 44% against whoever this old man is and Roxas, pathetic ass performance.
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#298 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/6/2013 10:39:20 PM | message detail
Ocelot could be going on a rampage right now with his MGS3 pic I believe

Zennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
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#299 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 8/6/2013 10:42:36 PM | message detail
what it's ocelot

he's got a trenchcoat

he's got a red thing

he's got an old

it's ocelot, he's fiiiiiine
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#300 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/6/2013 10:44:11 PM | message detail
If I can't troll a Zen match pic I'm not doing my job, whatever that is
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