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All depends if Teemo gets rallied, which I guess is likely. Because man Draven was bad before the rallying kicked in. --- Demyx is better than Axel. http://www.last.fm/user/crazydom |
Also % against whoever doesn't matter for Draven. It's all about raw votes. It's why L-Block did so well before it exploded in the semis in 2007, and why Draven is going to coast against X/Ryu. --- ~War~ |
Karma Hunter posted... Teemo can win... but LoL characters are weak without rallying here, and L Block is a whole different animal from Jak, who Draven only scored 55% on in the end. Wait So Draven scored only 55%..on Jak? after that so-called scary rally? This puts him at the same level as 2004 Ness So much for our glorious Link-killer (and no,next rally won't be that much bigger) |
FranzyvonKarma posted... Also % against whoever doesn't matter for Draven. It's all about raw votes. This isn't true. If we had the same system in 2007 as we have this year L Block would have lost in Round 1, 2, and 3. --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
That
reason being Bomberman hasn't seen the light of day since 2007, yes, I
know. Is there ANY character that has ever missed 2-3 contests only to
end up stronger than before? Oh, yeah, Celes Chere is one example, but
we all saw the big jump for old-school Final Fantasy. I think it is more due to Bomberman not having any games outside of XboxLive/PSN/WiiShop Sometimes it feels like characters gain strength in contests just by virtue of being IN the contests consistently.... I guess there's some logic to that. I agree, I have voted for characters in matches where I have not played any of their games based on their previous appearances in contests. Not sure how much that helps though. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 44/56 Today's Picks: Knuckles and Ezio |
They
stopped rallying when Draven was safely ahead. Draven's ability to take
out Link is based on what the rally is projected to do if done for 24
hours. We have no idea if the projection will hold or not until it
actually happens. --- Pokemon VGC2013 BC Regional - 16th place Pokemon VGC2013 US National - 39th place |
Team Rocket Elite posted... They stopped rallying when Draven was safely ahead. Draven's ability to take out Link is based on what the rally is projected to do if done for 24 hours. We have no idea if the projection will hold or not until it actually happens. Yeah, now this is true. Draven's chances of winning the contest are nonzero based on his first round match, anyway. --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
While
yes, it's not technically the same, the basic concept is true. So long
as L-Block held onto its 28%, it would always advance. If Draven holds
onto 16k votes against Ryu and X, he advances easily, especially since
that 16k was with no rallying for what, a third of the match? --- ~War~ |
Rallies
don't care about strength of the opponent, if LoL is rabid enough to
only ever vote Draven/Teemo then they just need to outvote GameFAQs. For example L-Block stayed at around 28-30% before getting heavily rallied despite the opponents getting stronger. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 44/56 Today's Picks: Knuckles and Ezio |
The
problem comes is for an LoL fan it's real easy to vote Draven over Jak.
Not many people care about Jak. Link, though? If any significantly
higher proportion of rallied voters end up voting for Link instead of
Draven that's going to send him tumbling back to earth. X/Ryu are more
realistic because they'll be cannibalizing each other to an extent, but
there's a similar principle there too. Strength matters as well, that's
why we have this topic! Edit: I kinda hope he gets to Link though so we can see external backlash properly directed against him <_< --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
That
also makes Ryu/X a good match up for Draven since "GameFAQs voter LFF"
will hurt both Ryu and X. Draven would have a harder time if one
character rolled over and died to let the other fight Draven head-on. --- Pokemon VGC2013 BC Regional - 16th place Pokemon VGC2013 US National - 39th place |
Karma Hunter posted... The problem comes is for an LoL fan it's real easy to vote Draven over Jak. Not many people care about Jak. Link, though? If any significantly higher proportion of rallied voters end up voting for Link instead of Draven that's going to send him tumbling back to earth. X/Ryu are more realistic because they'll be cannibalizing each other to an extent, but there's a similar principle there too. Strength matters as well, that's why we have this topic! How are you going to feel when Snake is at sub-10% against Teemo and Draven? --- ~War~ |
I
have been following those contests ever since 2003,and this is the
first time I want to do some kind of debt or god knows what just because
of how sure I am that Draven will not even come close to X and Ryu He will be so patheticly weak that this topic will flood with "oh,here goes the Link-killer.." comments Maybe that's how Black Turtle feels everytime...this feeling that "WHY DON'T THEY SEE ITS SO OBVIOUS THAT DRAVEN WON'T WIN WHY ARE THEY SO BLIND" |
FranzyvonKarma posted... Karma Hunter posted...The problem comes is for an LoL fan it's real easy to vote Draven over Jak. Not many people care about Jak. Link, though? If any significantly higher proportion of rallied voters end up voting for Link instead of Draven that's going to send him tumbling back to earth. X/Ryu are more realistic because they'll be cannibalizing each other to an extent, but there's a similar principle there too. Strength matters as well, that's why we have this topic! If you think there's any final I consider more favorable to Snake you're underestimating LoL's propensity for self-destruction in that kind of a setup! --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
Sorry I didn't make my joking obvious enough. Uh uh uh Whatcha gonna do, brother, when in the finals, there's sub-10% for Blue? --- ~War~ |
Not
sure if it's been brought up, but during the Jak match, a small handful
of Board 8ers rallied for Draven on reddit and other places. I doubt
Teemo gets any Board 8 rallies because no one has him in their bracket. --- http://i.imgur.com/a4GuDV3.gif |
When
Valve rallied for Gordon Freeman on Steam for the GameSpot contest, the
rallied votes when roughly 90-10 for Freeman. I wouldn't really count
on the LoL rallied votes changing much as the opponents get stronger. If
anything, they'll increase with each win. Mario might be the only
exception to this and Draven would have to make the finals for Mario to
step in. --- Pokemon VGC2013 BC Regional - 16th place Pokemon VGC2013 US National - 39th place |
The best thing about Draven winning the contest would be Chie being overrated as hell in the x-stats. --- .-#Elements of Water#-. Surskit |
Valve rallied Gordon..? So why don't they care about Gamefaqs contests then? |
I
wasn't joking, I consider Draven and even Teemo making the finals as
being nonzero chances (now, a number very close to zero...). And I'd
welcome it! Snake's united power and backlash against a 2/3rd LoL final
would power him to a level of something, like, 70.00 on BL against them. --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
watch a giant Link rally completely obliterate Draven's rally and then triple Snake in the finals KH am cry |
SnowZangoose posted... The best thing about Draven winning the contest would be Chie being overrated as hell in the x-stats. Imagine if Draven only gained momentum from here and Jak ended up #2 in the x-stats. --- Demyx is better than Axel. http://www.last.fm/user/crazydom |
Draven/Snake/Teemo
is the absolute best situation for Snake in the finals. Maybe I haven't
thought of this very clearly, but it's damn near impossible for him to
lose. --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/NQTthNf.jpg |
ChenKenichiFan posted... Draven/Snake/Teemo is the absolute best situation for Snake in the finals. Maybe I haven't thought of this very clearly, but it's damn near impossible for him to lose. Draven will SFF Teemo worse than every other SFF in the history of Gamefaqs |
ChenKenichiFan posted... Draven/Snake/Teemo is the absolute best situation for Snake in the finals. Maybe I haven't thought of this very clearly, but it's damn near impossible for him to lose. Wouldn't Draven SFF Teemo to the ground? I think it'd get pretty ugly. --- .-#Elements of Water#-. Surskit |
Nanis23 posted... Valve rallied Gordon..? GameSpot is a bigger site than GameFAQs and was actively trying to get companies to participate in their contest. --- Pokemon VGC2013 BC Regional - 16th place Pokemon VGC2013 US National - 39th place |
Nanis23 posted... ChenKenichiFan posted...Draven/Snake/Teemo is the absolute best situation for Snake in the finals. Maybe I haven't thought of this very clearly, but it's damn near impossible for him to lose. The fact that he'll have to SFF him at all will mean Draven would be utterly crippled against a Snake who would be far more powerful than anything he'd faced beforehand. The mere fact that it would be Snake standing alone in a Finals of LoL would boost him to levels unheard of. --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
If
Draven/Snake/Teemo happened I'd take Snake to finish last. There's no
way the LoL rallying would reach that point and THEN falter. --- ~War~ |
LoL seems so lame. The guy whose meme is WELCOME TO THE LEAGUE OF DRAVEN would SFF another LoL character into the ground? How f***ing lame must Teemo be? --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/NQTthNf.jpg |
Team Rocket Elite posted... Nanis23 posted...Valve rallied Gordon..? that's pretty stupid really.... |
FranzyvonKarma posted... If Draven/Snake/Teemo happened I'd take Snake to finish last. There's no way the LoL rallying would reach that point and THEN falter. With comments like this, i feel ashamed to be a lol fan sometimes. You gonna rally for 20,000 votes for both sides in a 24 hours poll for that to happen. --- Zinsanity of the Helix Board |
if Snake faces two LoL characters, rally on Nintendo, Microsoft, AND Sony forums for Snake guarantee you all 3 will give 90%+ to Snake |
It's
all about matchups. If LoL makes the finals, it's doing so mainly on
the power of 'GameFAQs Characters' fanbase splitting... right up until
the final match, when GameFAQs is finally united behind one non LoL
option and the two cannibalize each other (and under no circumstances
would Draven be able to heavily SFF a Teemo that's powerful enough to
make the finals anyway). Draven and Teemo would be heavy, heavy dogs to
Snake. Cloud, too, or anyone else that can make that kind of a final -
I'm not playing favorites. --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
I
have doubts about rallied votes getting weaker because the people being
rallied like the opponents better. People aren't going to analyze the
situation that much. If told to go somewhere and vote for a certain
character they're going to do so. They're not going to look at the poll
and try to figure out if they like the other character better. They
aren't going to be "disloyal." Edit: I wouldn't say that L-Block had a static 28-30% in 2007 either. He was legitimately increasing in momentum/popularity each round. Also don't forget that the R1/R2 pics of it were widely regarded as being bad and not helping out the joke as much as they could. R1 in particular? M-Rated Tetris anyone? --- "What's the matter with bootblacking? We both like it very much!" This is Yesmar. |
How
could Snake finish last? Between his natural GameFAQs strength (which
would be hypercharged by the silly final match he'd have to deal with)
and all the anti-LoL rallies that would solely benefit him, we're
looking at a potential 100,000 votes for Snake before he even begins to see returns from the LoL rallied voters who vote for Snake instead. This isn't Chester or Luke fon Fabre. It's Solid Snake. If LoL rallies a MILLION voters, a good chunk of them would go to Snake. --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/xiKRQ2F.gif |
Team Rocket Elite posted... Nanis23 posted...Valve rallied Gordon..? Whelp..200k votes for the finals... Was this the only contest Gamespot did?(Mario vs Gordon finals) I'm pretty sure that not because I remember Einstein in one of them |
Nanis23 posted... Team Rocket Elite posted...Nanis23 posted...Valve rallied Gordon..? wasn't the 200k votes over like a week though? which makes it even worse than this contest, averaged per day |
Clearly the only way we're going to settle this is by bringing the Draven/Snake/Teemo finals to fruition, make it happen people --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
http://www.gamespot.com/greatest-video-game-sidekick/standings/index.html This is joke L-Block winning the character battle here is far better than this |
GameSpot did 3 contests. One Gordon Freeman beat Mario in the finals because of rallying. One Sarah Kerrigan won because of rallying in a contest where the finals likely could have been The Joker vs. Darth Vader were it not for rallying, iirc. One Launchpad McQuack beat Albert Einstein in the final because 4chan rallied/stuffed to kill off everything with a speck of popularity early on. --- ~War~ |
Karma Hunter posted... Clearly the only way we're going to settle this is by bringing the Draven/Snake/Teemo finals to fruition, make it happen people either Draven wins by SFFing Teemo into the ground (which puts Snake in 2nd), or Snake wins because the LoL fanbase splits I don't see why people are trying to take both sides of the argument here |
1337gamerpr0 posted... Nanis23 posted...Team Rocket Elite posted...Nanis23 posted...Valve rallied Gordon..? Yeah,you are right This is really low then.. |
FranzyvonKarma posted... GameSpot did 3 contests. Why did they switch to McQuack They pretty much rallied Einstein the whole way just to feed him to the ducks? And lol at Kerrigan winning a character battle..wonder how would she do now post-HotS |
Using Draven's lowest percentage against Jak (32.34%) I was able to calculate the rallied votes for each hour... 3am - 182 4am - 961 5am - 1418 6am - 1520 7am - 1193 8am - 1043 9am - 993 10am - 838 11am - 848 12pm - 839 Using the maximum hour Draven could rally 18240 votes over 12 hours, that already puts him above most winners even if GameFAQs gives him 0 votes and the ones he did not beat had weak fodder which are no longer in this contest. Things to note - Draven was still dropping in percentage against Jak so he may have been slightly more rallied - LoL fans may not be rabid and may actually vote for stronger characters because they like them, therefore more rallying is needed - LoL may not be able to keep up that level of rallying for 12 hours straight (on the other hand they could rally even harder) --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 44/56 Today's Picks: Knuckles and Ezio |
FranzyvonKarma posted... GameSpot did 3 contests. what were the actual vote totals in the 3rd one (and the 2nd one, if you have them) |
I see nothing wrong with a contest won by Launchpad McQuack! --- Demyx is better than Axel. http://www.last.fm/user/crazydom |
Isn't the average age of 4chan like 19? How did they even know who Launchpad McQuack was? --- "What's the matter with bootblacking? We both like it very much!" This is Yesmar. |
1337gamerpr0 posted... FranzyvonKarma posted...GameSpot did 3 contests. http://www.gamespot.com/greatest-video-game-villain/vote/battle-hub/index.html?battle_id=63 252459 over a week http://www.gamespot.com/greatest-video-game-sidekick/vote/battle-hub/index.html?battle_id=63 31752 over 4 days lol at Sephiroth losing first round to General Raam |
Actually L-Block/Teemo would be a good way to measure LoL's rally potential. Assuming L-Block beats Palutena by about as much as Freeman did to Hades and Teemo was about as strong as Palutena that is going to require a near-maximum rally that I calculated from Draven in order to win. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 44/56 Today's Picks: Knuckles and Ezio |
ChenKenichiFan posted... How could Snake finish last? Between his natural GameFAQs strength (which would be hypercharged by the silly final match he'd have to deal with) and all the anti-LoL rallies that would solely benefit him, we're looking at a potential 100,000 votes for Snake before he even begins to see returns from the LoL rallied voters who vote for Snake instead. No. If your logic held true, Draven would have lost to Link first. Unless you think that there is significantly more LoL/Snake overlap than LoL/Link, which seems unlikely. When you're talking numbers in the millions, you're pretty much hitting a large enough sample of the whole gaming populations. If Snake could take that many votes from Draven there, then Snake would have enough natural strength to beat Link. I don't buy it. |
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