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Tidus looking better than FF8. Make it happen, GameFAQs, --- Hey, its that SuperNiceDog! Congrats to the Guru 2011 winner |
Squirtle did significantly worse on Ramza than Dante did on Laharl. Again, Blue only beat a crippled Fox by 52%. ...Zelda's still going to fold like a chump to Charizard, like she would to almost any beloved Nintendo character. Edit: Oh, and in case you didn't get the memo last contest? After Zelda failed to triple Travis Touchdown, failed to double Ezio, failed to stop Jecht from breaking 40% on her, and got blown out of the water by Samus? Zelda is getting anti-voted just as much as Link, and her name being synonymous with her series has now become a double-edged sword. --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
From: ExThaNemesis | Posted: 8/6/2013 1:16:46 AM | #250 Seriously though i'm a big pokemon guy but it has gotten out of hand when you're starting to see people say Mewtwo > Vincent is possible/likely. it sounded silly before the contest but that performance against KOS-MOS was definitely in range of being upset by Mewtwo --- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxkdr0uNc91qlu5jao1_r1_400.gif |
Lopen posted... FFVIII never had mojo. Another red flag was the fact that Squall/Seifer almost lost to Sora/Riku. Considering how famous FF8's intro FMV is, the rivalry should have been reasonably strong. But no. All this time I was in denial. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those! It could be fun! So... what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
ExThaNemesis posted... Mega Man gonna come out and decimate to put the PokeFEAR in its place. I think the argument here has a lot more to do with Vincent/FF7 than it does with Mewtwo. he's just a tool in the right spot who happens to be a Pokemon. --- Leafs / Raptors / Blue Jays / TFC / Argos / Tottenham We'll get 'em next year. |
Seifer almost cuts Celes. but not yet. =) --- Leafs / Raptors / Blue Jays / TFC / Argos / Tottenham We'll get 'em next year. |
Huh maybe my "Celes is 5% better than Seifer" prediction is still on the table after all. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Bahahaha **** You Seifer Go Celes --- Oh SuperNiceDog's doing it again dude. SuperNiceDog, you ain't no pimp dude |
Wow, FF7 and FF8 characters just flat out refuse to show up for their battles. What a bunch of chumps. --- Zinsanity of the Helix Board |
that'll do it for me tonight keep it up, Celes, you're doing awesome lol ff8 --- Leafs / Raptors / Blue Jays / TFC / Argos / Tottenham We'll get 'em next year. |
Leon hasn't posted in this topic since the match started. I think he's embarrassed that Seifer is doing so badly. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
-LusterSoldier- posted... -5? lol Nah typed wrong. I have Knuckles > Seifer > Celes, so -3 <_< EDIT: Argh, not even -3, neutral. |
Add
me to the list of people who picked Squall>Missingno but are
surprised to find he was actually the large pre-contest
favorite...Missingno should have a base strength - sans bandwagon/joke
votes - much higher than the base strength of L-Block. Karma Hunter posted... Charizard's got some work to do to consolidate his strength this year, though. 55% on Kratos and failing to double Duke Nukem doesn't exactly scream 'Noble Nine Breaker' to me. If he falls back to earth it'd be disappointing. ...forgot about Zard/Nukem. Maybe Missingno's base is lower than I though, if even Zard's base strength is truly that low, as Zard should be stronger by any measure than Missingno. These Pokemon strength fluctuations are too damn much to keep track of :\ Curse you PokeFAQs, you fickle beast. Haste_2 posted... I'm scared to death of Charizard now. I'm not feeling good about having picked Zelda now. The scores of Blue and Squirtle were scary. What was scary about Blue...? Fox almost got 48% on him with freakin' Wolf in the poll. He's likely dead even with Fox 1v1, which is very good, but definitely not what I'd call "scary". And Squirtle's performance was good, but not scary either, he still seems the slight underdog to Dante. [bah, it seems KH already addressed both these issues...but as I have it already typed out whatever] --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
-LusterSoldier- posted... Leon hasn't posted in this topic since the match started. I think he's embarrassed that Seifer is doing so badly. Do we even know if he actually likes Seifer? --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
spooky96 posted... -LusterSoldier- posted...-5? That's why, in retrospect, I don't think this actually gets me on the leaderboard. Those who are going to get this wrong will just get 0 points. I'll be at 232 after this and I have a hard time believing that enough of the about 20 people directly ahead of me will have Seifer > Celes to get me there. I'll probably end up a victim of the alphabetical order after this match. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX |
creativename posted... -LusterSoldier- posted...Leon hasn't posted in this topic since the match started. I think he's embarrassed that Seifer is doing so badly. if he's not vocal about things he dislikes (like Pokemon) I'd say it's safe to assume he likes something or is at least neutral --- Want any VNs pre-patched? PM me. List of VNs can be found by clicking on my username. |
superange128 posted... creativename posted...-LusterSoldier- posted...Leon hasn't posted in this topic since the match started. I think he's embarrassed that Seifer is doing so badly. He said he likes Squirtle in one of the "Do you like this character?" topic. |
Karma Hunter posted... Squirtle did significantly worse on Ramza than Dante did on Laharl. Again, Blue only beat a crippled Fox by 52%. I have a hard time accepting the fact that Ramza is as weak as Laharl now... even though I know odds are very high that's still true. Still, with all the success of old-school FF... why not a boost for Tactics? It's not outside the realm of possibility. Fox was crippled a little, but I'll just point to the implications of MGS/RBY/GSC/Zelda: MM. And... man, I still can't believe the SFF there on Link/Ganondorf proportions... but then again, I am a Wolf fan. Zelda held up well against Mario, but Zelda folded against Samus (the more recent/relevant match), so maybe.... I'll cross my fingers... that Zelda could do well. She seems more reliable than Ganondorf. Charizard's just gonna win 'cause he's more popular, I think. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those! It could be fun! So... what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
I
have a scary feeling that Zelda might beat Charizard. Zard's
performance on Kratos and Duke wasn't all good. His good performances
were only when HG/SS were out - when people were all around the site
looking for help. |
Isn't
FFT post-FF7? I mean, Cloud's in that game. Yeah, Ramza could be
stronger than Laharl and Squirtle could obviously win that match, but
it's nothing solid. Also, I have no idea what implications you're referring to. Blue's, like, absolute maximum on Fox is 52%ish. That's nothing spectacular. --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
spooky96 posted... I have a scary feeling that Zelda might beat Charizard. Zard's performance on Kratos and Duke wasn't all good. His good performances were only when HG/SS were out - when people were all around the site looking for help. This site isn't going to let Zelda win a match against anyone around her strength. Unless she has the potential to easily dispatch Charizard (she doesn't), she'll lose easily. --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
Haste_2 posted... Karma Hunter posted...Squirtle did significantly worse on Ramza than Dante did on Laharl. Again, Blue only beat a crippled Fox by 52%. I suppose a Tactics boost is possible, which would be awesome cause Tactics is awesome. But, I'm pretty skeptical about that. It wasn't nearly as played as the SNES FF's. And time has likely not been as kind as with the SNES FF's, as those would benefit from emulation to keep them somewhat fresh. How many people are going to bust out their PSX to play Tactics? Oh and yeah, if you have Zelda>Charizard you were screwed long before the performances of Blue and Squirtle! That was always a big stretch. As for Wolf being Ganon-ized by Fox, SFF is exaggerated in multi-way polls, we've always known this. Wolf would crumple bad to Fox 1v1 but it wouldn't be Link/Ganon level. Obvious Last Place Factor+SFF=complete beatdown in multi-way polls. The fact that even with Wolf there Blue was barely able to break 52% on Fox is good news for people with Crono in their brackets. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
The way Fox shrugged off Wolf makes me feel good about Crono shrugging off Magus and Mega Man doing the same to Zero. But do you know what that all means? Means that Link's going to do it to Mario, too. =( --- Die young and save yourself. Brace for the G's, and fast heel-toe work. |
I
honestly think Blue getting by Crono/Sora has about as good a chance as
Pikachu > Crono at this point. Which, don't get me wrong, I think
either are pretty possible! --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
The
reason I took Squirtle > Dante is because the thought of taking
Dante in any sort of remotely debatable match makes me feel uneasy. If you throw Squirtle in Blue's match, do you think he progresses? --- Crucifying my Oracle average one match at a time |
ExThaNemesis posted... The way Fox shrugged off Wolf makes me feel good about Crono shrugging off Magus and Mega Man doing the same to Zero. Luckily after Snake's first round performance we can get on the hype train of Snake doesn't need Mario to beat Link. --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
Well,
Blue was supposed to be weaker than Red, and Red scraped by Ocelot in
2010. That seems like a big gap to make up to beat Fox with 52%. But now I noticed that Red got 38% on MMX, though, which seems a lot better.... and yeah, we obviously have the Rivalry Rumble showing. about that "implication"....Pokemon GSC was supposed to be stronger than Zelda:MM in that contest because of RBY holding it back. (granted, in retrospect, GSC really did seem a step above Majora's Mask, but for a couple of reasons, it's hard to say) --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those! It could be fun! So... what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
ExThaNemesis posted... The way Fox shrugged off Wolf makes me feel good about Crono shrugging off Magus and Mega Man doing the same to Zero. And I have Cloud winning! I'm winning this contest WOOO HOOOO .. ... .... Meh, even though I know Cloud won't win, I still have him winning. |
Karma Hunter posted... ExThaNemesis posted...The way Fox shrugged off Wolf makes me feel good about Crono shrugging off Magus and Mega Man doing the same to Zero. There's the KH that I know and love. --- Die young and save yourself. Brace for the G's, and fast heel-toe work. |
Which match has the highest total votes so far? --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baUY9LFlYh0 - KokorokokoroKOKOROkokoROKokoro-chan iu na http://myanimelist.net/animelist/raytan7585 |
raytan7585 posted... Which match has the highest total votes so far? Draven? --- Die young and save yourself. Brace for the G's, and fast heel-toe work. |
ShatteredElysium posted... The reason I took Squirtle > Dante is because the thought of taking Dante in any sort of remotely debatable match makes me feel uneasy. Dante's getting too bad a rap, I think. Dante/Leon was intensely debated and Dante won that one going away, it's just that Pikachu was able to take advantage and leapfrog them both. Dante also beat Master Chief cleanly in 2008 fourways - a match he wasn't supposed to be able to win, certainly not after the GAME FUEL run in 2007. And in the close ones he lost, Ryu and Yoshi were pretty decisive bracket favorites with the board. --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
Wolf
would crumple bad to Fox 1v1 but it wouldn't be Link/Ganon level.
Obvious Last Place Factor+SFF=complete beatdown in multi-way polls. Oh, come on, do you have to criticize everything I say? Link got almost the exact same proportion on Zelda in the 2007 contest. But I suppose you'll say next that Zelda must hold up to LInk better than Ganondorf.... --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those! It could be fun! So... what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
Karma Hunter posted... ShatteredElysium posted...The reason I took Squirtle > Dante is because the thought of taking Dante in any sort of remotely debatable match makes me feel uneasy. That match against Yoshi was a f***ing bomb, and while he put up a solid effort against Ryu, Dante's track record in close matches + Squirtle not being as weak as I thought he'd be has given me major cause for concern. --- Die young and save yourself. Brace for the G's, and fast heel-toe work. |
ExThaNemesis posted... Karma Hunter posted...ExThaNemesis posted...The way Fox shrugged off Wolf makes me feel good about Crono shrugging off Magus and Mega Man doing the same to Zero. I'm serious! After adjusting for Link/Mario SFF Link's only expected to score around 76-77% on Isaac. Snake went up and posted a cool 78%! He can do this! Edit: I bet he can do better on Alucard next round than Link did too <_< you all laughed at Link/CATS projecting the finals in 2004 too you'll all see --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
ExThaNemesis posted... The way Fox shrugged off Wolf makes me feel good about Crono shrugging off Magus and Mega Man doing the same to Zero. I don't know about Mega Man shrugging off Zero...we've already seen Mega Man get exaggerated SFF against Zero in a multi-way poll, he only managed 63.5% on Zero in a match where he was in a life and death struggle for 2nd place, and he still lost to Weighted Companion Cube while getting more than 60/40'd by Snake. I think Mega Man's best hope is that he's boosted since then while Zero hasn't, allowing him to increase the SFF wattage. But if this were the same Mega Man as back then, his chances against Zard are very slim. I do believe he's boosted though which gives him a chance. But he's still the underdog. Haste_2 posted... Well, Blue was supposed to be weaker than Red, and Red scraped by Ocelot in 2010. That seems like a big gap to make up to beat Fox with 52%. Blue and Red could be pretty much equal, also many say Red will do better with an RBY pic than the Smash pics he got before. I don't think MM being weak in the games contest had anything to do with SFF, it just wasn't a strong entity in that contest. For GOTD I think it largely became a Zelda proxy, and this is ZeldaFAQs after all. I mean there's no way Majora's Mask was legitimately the Game of the Decade, if we hold an all-era games contest again MM likely drops substantially in strength with other, stronger Zelda games in the same bracket. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
I
think Mega Man's best hope is that he's boosted since then while Zero
hasn't, allowing him to increase the SFF wattage. But if this were the
same Mega Man as back then, his chances against Zard are very slim. I do
believe he's boosted though which gives him a chance. But he's still
the underdog. Yeah you're right. I think all of the following are possible/likely: 1. Mega Man boosting (especially with the Brawl announcement) 2. Charizard being a bit weaker. 3. Zero being a bit weaker + obvious last place factor That's why I picked Mega Man there. Plus I also really wanted to have all of the N9 in my final nine. --- Die young and save yourself. Brace for the G's, and fast heel-toe work. |
I'm serious! After adjusting for Link/Mario SFF Link's only expected to score around 76-77% on Isaac. Snake went up and posted a cool 78%! He can do this! you all laughed at Link/CATS projecting the finals in 2004 too you'll all see Hey man, who you trying to convince? I'm the one that actually picked Snake in the finals! --- Die young and save yourself. Brace for the G's, and fast heel-toe work. |
I just really want Snake to win a contest before I die okay --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
ExThaNemesis posted... Karma Hunter posted...ShatteredElysium posted...The reason I took Squirtle > Dante is because the thought of taking Dante in any sort of remotely debatable match makes me feel uneasy. There's also the X-Factor of DmC, and the possibility of Donte showing up in the match picture. --- Agent Triple Zero at your service! The artist formerly known as greatone10. |
Leonhart works or sleeps or something till like 4am I only realize that cause he always posts in the crew topic about then. It's not as if I'm stalking him or something. I would never do such a thing. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Squirtle in a 70/30 blowout --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
Lopen posted... Leonhart works or sleeps or something till like 4am Yes I remember him saying he works during night. |
So what's up with Celes doing this? She was weak as hell the one time she made a contest... --- "Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
Also
I want to say the main rationale behind picking Snake to win the
contest for me (and what it should've been for you KH) was that I've
been on the wrong end of picking against Link before so at this point
the sting is very muted. It's like "eh, at least I wasn't on the morally
reprehensible side of things." The idea of losing the contest because I didn't pull the trigger on picking against Link the one time when it's most feasible that he could lose? That, was just too much for me. --- Die young and save yourself. Brace for the G's, and fast heel-toe work. |
I
honestly feel bad for Leon during this contest. Not only has FF8 been
abysmal, but he's likely going to have to watch both Tidus AND Squall
(his 1 and 2) lose to a glitch joke. I wouldn't wish that on anyone, even him! --- Die young and save yourself. Brace for the G's, and fast heel-toe work. |
Old
Square boosting... or honestly, the female bracket just being
completely f***ed as far as deriving anything from it goes. The Boss,
who she lost to, looked a lot better in later years than her performance
on Tifa (got tripled) in the female bracket would imply. --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
ExThaNemesis posted... Also I want to say the main rationale behind picking Snake to win the contest for me (and what it should've been for you KH) was that I've been on the wrong end of picking against Link before so at this point the sting is very muted. It's like "eh, at least I wasn't on the morally reprehensible side of things." I could be #1 on the Leaderboard by the time the Finals rolls around and I'll still be spending all day rallying for Snake. Winning the contest is very secondary to me. <_< --- www.dudewheresmyfreedom.com Proud to share the same beliefs as SmartMuffin |
Where's
the "Donte" nickname come from anyway? Is there anyway particular
reason for "Donte", or is that just because they needed a separate
nickname for DmC Dante and Donte sounds the same? Haste_2 posted... Wolf would crumple bad to Fox 1v1 but it wouldn't be Link/Ganon level. Obvious Last Place Factor+SFF=complete beatdown in multi-way polls. Haha, sorry, didn't realize I was doing that :) I think even Ganon would hold up substantially better nowadays if there was a rematch. Zelda and Ganon are both pure leeches though, they don't have any strength outside of being LoZ reps. Most fanbases will have their fan favorites and such, whereas for LoZ pretty much everyone likes Link best. Karma Hunter posted... I'm serious! After adjusting for Link/Mario SFF Link's only expected to score around 76-77% on Isaac. Snake went up and posted a cool 78%! He can do this! Edit: I bet he can do better on Alucard next round than Link did too <_< Hey now. I projected those finals using Link/CATs! Being serious, Snake's problem is that Link will siphon off his Nintendo fanbase, which means Snake is suffering from a handicap that will likely cancel out the presence of Mario. The fact that it's a 3-way though means that a bandwagon'd Snake has more potential. And we've already seen in 4-ways bandwagon'd Snake is pretty strong (strong enough to cost me both the bracket contest and the Oracle on the same day...**** you bandwagon'd Snake! ...sorry I had to >_>). With lower vote totals+3-way, if the site just flat-out rebels against the LAW, it's conceivable Snake can win. Unlikely...but possible. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
I
doubt Zelda:MM drops substantially. Its showing against RBY was
deceiving. I do think RBY was, and is, stronger than its score on MGS
suggests. RBY could have been SFFed a little, but far more likely, was
effected by leeching. And, as logical as the Zelda proxy idea is... yeah, I'm sure it had some effect, but not massive. For one thing, the extra gas wouldn't occur until later rounds, and so MM's victory against GSC was probably legit. But yeah, it's hard for me to imagine it beating Brawl and FFX on its own merits. Not that I mean to fan any more flames of disagreement. I enjoy making comments, and gaining new incites....and I am dang slow when making posts, because I'm not as quick-minded as others. =p --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those! It could be fun! So... what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
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