Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1095

#151 | superange128 | Posted 8/5/2013 9:30:17 PM | message detail
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#152 | superange128 | Posted 8/5/2013 9:30:17 PM | message detail
FFDragon posted...
swordz9 posted...
Wow, well I guess people who visit this site hate Rinoa & Seifer. I'm betting Quistis, Irvine and Selphie would look just as bad too and maybe even Zell. Laguna probably is the 2nd best bet for FF8 on this site.


Zell came in a clear second in the favorite ff8 character poll.


In a poll I made on the FF8 boards asking for favorite non-Squall character Laguna won but Zell got 2nd

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/197343-final-fantasy-viii/66562641
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#153 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/5/2013 9:30:45 PM | message detail
This makes me wonder how much of the so-called "Dissidia boost" was just the site shifting back toward Old Square. I always found it ridiculous that a PSP game could boost characters the way it seemed to.

The only outlier is FF9 but most people consider it to fall more in-line with the classics than 7,8,10 anyway so it makes sense Zidane benefited too.
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#154 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/5/2013 9:30:48 PM | message detail
Argh Cecil. I'm #3 on the leaderboard and my bracket has still somehow dissolved before me. It's anyone game, boys!

Anyway, 2014 no-era-division Games Contest

Round 3
Final Fantasy VI vs. Skyrim

Your pick?
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#155 | CrushDavis | Posted 8/5/2013 9:30:50 PM | message detail
FFDragon posted...
I wouldn't say it's irrelevant.

Outdated, sure, but things just don't get flipped 180 for no reason.


Eh.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/294

Its best to take those old polls with a grain of salt... the new polls aren't even that reliable to begin with.
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#156 | Kibago | Posted 8/5/2013 9:31:05 PM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
Celes looks bad, but she's not dreadful. Locke's choices are all dreadful.


i wish they could just use their sprites. Terra and Kefka can thank Dissidia art, but there's nothing better to save the others.
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#157 | Lopen | Posted 8/5/2013 9:31:29 PM | message detail | (edited)
Honestly Celes's Amano Art is probably the best there is as far as Amano art goes. She looks recognizable and not terrible. That's probably the best pic she has.
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#158 | swordz9 | Posted 8/5/2013 9:31:51 PM | message detail
Kefka aside FF6 has such poor official art to work with. If it didn't say Celes Chere she would just look like one of the many godawful Amano art FF girls.
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#159 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 8/5/2013 9:31:57 PM | message detail
Dissidia release being a coincidence would also explain why Rydia looks fine despite not being in Dissidia.
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#160 | LordoftheMorons | Posted 8/5/2013 9:31:57 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
I can't believe I took Pit > Cecil at this point

like was there even a rationale for this or did we just completely forget about the Knuckles match

It made sense if you didn't think the Dissidia boost would last!
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#161 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/5/2013 9:31:58 PM | message detail
...assuming a 70/30 split for Seifer's votes in favor of Celes, she'd now be at 45% on Knuckles with the whole night vote to look forward to.

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#162 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/5/2013 9:32:09 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Cecil > Red is hardly impossible, though I side pretty decisively with Red. Is that a night or a day match?


Day match. It'll be near the end of round 2, so we'll probably have normal ASV trends again.
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#163 | ahirsch101 | Posted 8/5/2013 9:32:13 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
The problem with Locke is he just isn't that important of a character in an ensemble cast. The only characters who can really be considered the "Main" characters are Terra and Celes... everyone else is just kinda there. And when you're dealing with just another character out of 14 or however many there are, you're not going to have a lot of strength

Locke is quite important in the game and is forced to use a few times. I'd rank him up there with Terra and Celes, at the very least he'd be equal with Edgar.


Agreed. And although Board 8 doesn't exactly represent all voters, Locke is in the lead so far in this poll:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/66912027
#164 | superange128 | Posted 8/5/2013 9:32:22 PM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
Argh Cecil. I'm #3 on the leaderboard and my bracket has still somehow dissolved before me. It's anyone game, boys!

Anyway, 2014 no-era-division Games Contest

Round 3
Final Fantasy VI vs. Skyrim

Your pick?


FF6. Skyrim will be upper midcarder for sure but I can't see it beat FF6. I consider that near-elite as far as games go
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#165 | Kibago | Posted 8/5/2013 9:32:35 PM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
Argh Cecil. I'm #3 on the leaderboard and my bracket has still somehow dissolved before me. It's anyone game, boys!

Anyway, 2014 no-era-division Games Contest

Round 3
Final Fantasy VI vs. Skyrim

Your pick?


with these votals? FF6.
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#166 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/5/2013 9:32:43 PM | message detail
I don't disagree that is Celes' best picture outside of a sprite, but it is still pretty bad.

Maybe we have this all wrong and Knuckles is actually even weaker now.

>_>

lol Seifer
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#167 | CrushDavis | Posted 8/5/2013 9:32:43 PM | message detail
Kibago posted...
KamikazePotato posted...
Celes looks bad, but she's not dreadful. Locke's choices are all dreadful.


i wish they could just use their sprites. Terra and Kefka can thank Dissidia art, but there's nothing better to save the others.


http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080301023236/finalfantasy/images/a/ae/FFVI-CelesCG.gif
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080301023142/finalfantasy/images/4/4b/CelesMaria.jpg

Pics like these could have worked, too. Still far better than what Locke had available.
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#168 | FFDragon | Posted 8/5/2013 9:32:47 PM | message detail
CrushDavis posted...
Its best to take those old polls with a grain of salt... the new polls aren't even that reliable to begin with.


Hey the FF8 one at least got 26k votes so it's less skewed than that one. That's more than some of our night matches!
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#169 | OrangeCrush980 | Posted 8/5/2013 9:33:35 PM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
Argh Cecil. I'm #3 on the leaderboard and my bracket has still somehow dissolved before me. It's anyone game, boys!

Anyway, 2014 no-era-division Games Contest

Round 3
Final Fantasy VI vs. Skyrim

Your pick?


FF6 because of NostalgiaFAQs
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#170 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/5/2013 9:33:58 PM | message detail
Laguna is a better choice than Zell probably just due to Dissidia, but after today we really don't need more FF8 characters period.
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#171 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 8/5/2013 9:34:18 PM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
Argh Cecil. I'm #3 on the leaderboard and my bracket has still somehow dissolved before me. It's anyone game, boys!

Anyway, 2014 no-era-division Games Contest

Round 3
Final Fantasy VI vs. Skyrim

Your pick?


Not fair. I think putting any game that's not the top 2 against Skyrim is a coin flip.
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#172 | swordz9 | Posted 8/5/2013 9:35:02 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/846

How in the hell did Quistis not get last? This is an outrage.
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#173 | vcharon | Posted 8/5/2013 9:35:12 PM | message detail | (edited)
Shadow would, arguably, be better than any other new FF8 character (I could dig out that decade plus old poll he handily won in FF6 characters, but I won't).
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#174 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/5/2013 9:35:23 PM | message detail
We can try Mog, he's neat in that he kinda functions as two things at once.
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#175 | Haste_2 | Posted 8/5/2013 9:36:02 PM | message detail
I wish I could say Cecil had a chance against Red (assuming Cecil makes it there), but Blue's performance was just ridiculous.

I'd be interested in seeing how FF6 would do in a game contest with such low vote totals like it is now. Maybe it could even beat LttP.
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#176 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/5/2013 9:36:10 PM | message detail
Mog is great, he's a moogle *and* an FF6 rep that doesn't have horrible art!
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#177 | creativename | Posted 8/5/2013 9:36:40 PM | message detail
Oddly enough, a match with Knuckles/Seifer/Celes of all things has been what sealed me picking Crono>Pikachu in my Oracle and expert next round.

SNES+Square seems to be a winning combination these days.

MegatokyoEd posted...
Obviously this shows we need to get Edgar, Sabin and Shadow in.

No more FF8 jokers.

I used to say that FF6 Shadow would be the strongest character from that game. Obviously, this will no longer be true post-Dissidia, but back in the early days Shadow would have been a force. I think he would have be one of the early near-elites. He could have been the original Vincent.

Too bad he never got in then, as I think he'd be fodder these days.

Karma Hunter posted...
I wonder how many years it's gonna take before people become nostalgic for FF7

It already had that era back in 2K2-2K5...ever since the love has slowly dissipiated, while the hatebase never left for some reason.
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#178 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/5/2013 9:36:48 PM | message detail
Haste_2 posted...
I wish I could say Cecil had a chance against Red (assuming Cecil makes it there), but Blue's performance was just ridiculous.

I'd be interested in seeing how FF6 would do in a game contest with such low vote totals like it is now. Maybe it could even beat LttP.


...Blue got 52% on a weakened Fox, what?
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#179 | vcharon | Posted 8/5/2013 9:37:02 PM | message detail
Actually, I will dig it out!

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/847
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#180 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 8/5/2013 9:37:35 PM | message detail
Mog is also in FFXIII-2 for that new generation of gamers, even though it's a completely different Mog.
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#181 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 8/5/2013 9:37:40 PM | message detail
Haste_2 posted...
I wish I could say Cecil had a chance against Red (assuming Cecil makes it there), but Blue's performance was just ridiculous.

I'd be interested in seeing how FF6 would do in a game contest with such low vote totals like it is now. Maybe it could even beat LttP.


Blue doing well doesn't necessary mean Red will. Also, we've already seen Red in contest matches before and he was only able to match Ocelot.
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#182 | Lopen | Posted 8/5/2013 9:37:57 PM | message detail
I feel like Celes doesn't necessarily go up much relative to Knuckles at the end of the poll. Seifer's probably the main one to make strides. Honestly could see Knuckles actually gaining on Celes from now till the end Europe likes its Sonic so he won't roll over then and morning should favor him.
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#183 | CrushDavis | Posted 8/5/2013 9:38:58 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Mog is great, he's a moogle *and* an FF6 rep that doesn't have horrible art!


http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111127200906/finalfantasy/images/4/47/Mog_US.jpg

Imagine if he got this pic, thats about as representative of FF6 in the West as it gets.

http://www.bar2ayunie.com/images/Final_Fantasy/Final_Fantasy_VI/Characters/FFVI_Mog.jpg

Though some joker could always submit this thing
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#184 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/5/2013 9:41:28 PM | message detail | (edited)
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111127200906/finalfantasy/images/4/47/Mog_US.jpg

man who wouldn't vote for that little awesome guy

also edit dangit too slow
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#185 | vcharon | Posted 8/5/2013 9:39:58 PM | message detail
Mog sucks, I would vote for someone else!
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#186 | Kibago | Posted 8/5/2013 9:40:22 PM | message detail
creativename posted...
hatebase never left for some reason.


"FF(7) always wins"

also, Sephiroth probably should have lay down and died against Missingno. that 'win'...broke him. the site just turned on him with pure contest-based hate.
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#187 | ahirsch101 | Posted 8/5/2013 9:40:53 PM | message detail
I think Mog's problem is he's a hidden, optional character.
#188 | Haste_2 | Posted 8/5/2013 9:41:00 PM | message detail
MegatokyoEd posted...
Obviously this shows we need to get Edgar, Sabin and Shadow in.

No more FF8 jokers.


Shadow is the character we need to see next. No, wait, Mog first. Then Shadow. But yeah, all of them might be fine except for Strago/Relm/Gogo/Umaro/Gau.
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#189 | Kibago | Posted 8/5/2013 9:42:33 PM | message detail
vcharon posted...
Mog sucks, I would vote for someone else!


this
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#190 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/5/2013 9:42:43 PM | message detail
Funny how no one has mentioned Squall vs Missingno. I know Squall is half Kingdom Hearts and has some insulation from this crap, but you'd figure with the way we've seen new Square stink it up, someone would be getting worried. Hell, if Microsoft hadn't shot itself in the foot (with a bazooka), I'd now be worried about Chief actually winning.
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#191 | CrushDavis | Posted 8/5/2013 9:42:51 PM | message detail
I really hope Terra, Celes or Kefka show up in KH3. That could really give them the boost they need to have legit strength
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#192 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/5/2013 9:42:59 PM | message detail
Haste_2 posted...
MegatokyoEd posted...
Obviously this shows we need to get Edgar, Sabin and Shadow in.

No more FF8 jokers.


Shadow is the character we need to see next. No, wait, Mog first. Then Shadow. But yeah, all of them might be fine except for Strago/Relm/Gogo/Umaro/Gau.


Shadow looks like he's liable to bomb, if you ask me...
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#193 | Lopen | Posted 8/5/2013 9:43:06 PM | message detail
Mog is hidden huh

Someone takin that Gold Hairpin from Lone Wolf
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#194 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/5/2013 9:43:26 PM | message detail
ahirsch101 posted...
I think Mog's problem is he's a hidden, optional character.


He's a moogle and his picture is on the box art. Not really buying it.
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#195 | superange128 | Posted 8/5/2013 9:43:39 PM | message detail
eh I assume it's just FF7 and non-Squall FF8 characters that are gonna stink it up

Lightning could potentially I guess
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#196 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/5/2013 9:44:35 PM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
Funny how no one has mentioned Squall vs Missingno. I know Squall is half Kingdom Hearts and has some insulation from this crap, but you'd figure with the way we've seen new Square stink it up, someone would be getting worried. Hell, if Microsoft hadn't shot itself in the foot (with a bazooka), I'd now be worried about Chief actually winning.


...Missingno's not the favorite?
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#197 | xp1337 | Posted 8/5/2013 9:44:40 PM | message detail
Next best FF6 rep is probably either Mog or Edgar but I don't think either of them would be worth much. Edgar is probably about equal to Locke. Mog probably rides being a moogle to stay ahead of them, but that's the only reason he might be worth anything at all IMO.

I don't think we need anymore FF6 or FF8 reps after this! Though put me down for Laguna probably being the best best for FF8 but if you sub in here for Seifer I don't see it going much better!
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#198 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/5/2013 9:44:59 PM | message detail
superange128 posted...
eh I assume it's just FF7 and non-Squall FF8 characters that are gonna stink it up

Lightning could potentially I guess


That's like all of New Square except for Auron and Squall lol

Wait, Zidane had a very good match. He repped well.
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#199 | ahirsch101 | Posted 8/5/2013 9:45:27 PM | message detail
Lopen posted...
Mog is hidden huh

Someone takin that Gold Hairpin from Lone Wolf


Fair enough, hidden isn't the right word. But he's hardly a central character to the storyline. Someone like Edgar or Sabin would I think be more popular. And this is coming from someone whose second favorite character in the game is Mog.
#200 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/5/2013 9:46:13 PM | message detail
CrushDavis posted...
I really hope Terra, Celes or Kefka show up in KH3. That could really give them the boost they need to have legit strength


They would probably end up with a lame cameo like Setzer.
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