Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1095

#51 | Colegreen_c12 | Posted 8/5/2013 9:07:20 PM | message detail
Having not played ff6 or 8 I went with seifer because i recognized him from kh2
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#52 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 8/5/2013 9:07:53 PM | message detail
Welp...

Dammit Seifer
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#53 | tennisboy213 | Posted 8/5/2013 9:08:06 PM | message detail
LOL
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#54 | ninkendo | Posted 8/5/2013 9:08:09 PM | message detail
#55 | CrushDavis | Posted 8/5/2013 9:08:18 PM | message detail
#56 | LordoftheMorons | Posted 8/5/2013 9:08:19 PM | message detail
7th and 11th on the leaderboards, wooooo

Seifer is DROPPING THE BALL HERE (though I think he still has a decent chance; I would think that the board vote, consisting of more invested gamers, would lean more towards Celes than the average voter).
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#57 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/5/2013 9:08:20 PM | message detail
XD he went down...
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#58 | xp1337 | Posted 8/5/2013 9:08:32 PM | message detail
AlecTrevelyan006 posted...
xp1337 posted...
Actually, the way the Expert Challenge leaderboard is seeming to let me catch up Celes winning might somehow get me on there!

How the hell am I 4 points back after the catastrophe that was Division 6? I was at least 15 points behind IIRC! And that was like 36 hours ago!


No-picking and getting 0 points on several matches has moved me onto and up the leaderboard this division.

I'm playing Hard Mode and full picking everything just to make things more INTENSE.

Really I've just had things turn out well after Division 6 nearly buried me for good.

Blue > Fox, Sandbag > Isaac, Catherine > Neku seemingly erased all the damage I took and I might even be in better shape now than I was before I started imploding!
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#59 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/5/2013 9:08:53 PM | message detail
FF8 is ass and seeing its horrible characters bomb is hilarious.
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#60 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 8/5/2013 9:08:56 PM | message detail
Previous results seemed like a fluke, but I was always convinced FF6 was legit in the games contests. Now I'm sure it really is the #2 FF on the site.
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#61 | TAFKAHurricane | Posted 8/5/2013 9:08:58 PM | message detail
Wow I am just crashing down the EC leaderboard, will most likely be off if Seifer doesn't get his stuff together.
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#62 | Kibago | Posted 8/5/2013 9:09:11 PM | message detail
that's better! =)
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#63 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 8/5/2013 9:09:15 PM | message detail
Wow, Seifer.

You are an absolute pile of s***.
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#64 | Sorozone | Posted 8/5/2013 9:09:27 PM | message detail
Seifer you goon. I waffled too much between him and Celes for the Expert. Went with him at the end. Damn. I'll see what he does the next update. Otherwise it looks like I'm getting a 0 here.
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#65 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 8/5/2013 9:09:31 PM | message detail
SEIFER NO SEIFING.
SEIFER NO SEIFING.
SEIFER NO SEIFING.
SEIFER NO SEIFING.
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#66 | WhiteLens | Posted 8/5/2013 9:14:49 PM | message detail | (edited)
You know after Kefka we probably should've saw this coming...

This is why the other FF VIII rep should've been Laguna. Who thought we'd be better off with Seifer AND RINOA?
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#67 | tennisboy213 | Posted 8/5/2013 9:09:36 PM | message detail
I shoulda listened to the analysis crew.
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#68 | Steins_Gate | Posted 8/5/2013 9:10:37 PM | message detail
It's times like this I wish I had made a bracket.

Then I look back at some of the other matches I would have called and...nope.
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#69 | pjbasis | Posted 8/5/2013 9:10:40 PM | message detail
well that was a pick
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#70 | creativename | Posted 8/5/2013 9:10:48 PM | message detail
So it seems Rinoa is probably stronger than Seifer.

...the hell is wrong with u people
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#71 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 8/5/2013 9:10:57 PM | message detail
Score-Brackets-% Right
53------1------------100.00
52------4------------25.00
51------19----------36.84
50------36----------44.44
49------96----------46.88
48------170--------39.41
47------212--------36.79
46------214--------23.83
45------279--------24.01
44------417--------25.90
43------561--------22.99
42------706--------20.40
41------925--------23.46
40------1137------24.01
39------1215------26.50
38------1267------25.97
37------1267------29.36
36------1167------29.13
35------965--------33.37
34------816--------33.95
33------765--------34.51
32------588--------36.90
31------499--------37.27
30------362--------38.12
29------322--------38.51
28------247--------40.89
27------209--------40.19
26------177--------41.24
25------109--------43.12
24------107--------40.19
23------83----------40.96
22------43----------39.53
21------71----------52.11
20------45----------53.33
19------25----------44.00
18------26----------38.46
17------19----------63.16
16------14----------71.43
15------8------------50.00
14------8------------87.50
13------7------------57.14
12------5------------60.00
11------1------------100.00
10------3------------66.67
9--------2------------100.00
8--------1------------100.00
7--------2------------100.00
6--------16----------87.50
5--------0------------0.00
4--------4------------0.00
3--------3------------66.67
2--------3------------33.33
1--------5------------20.00
0--------1------------0.00

Tough match. The top tiers look pretty good with theit mid 30s to mid 40s for prediction percentage but that quickly falls into the low 20s as you head down the chart. Interestingly, the lower tiers do quite well and also have mid 30s to 40s for prediction percentage. I wonder if this is because having low contest knowledge made you more likely to side with Catherine since there are too many of them to be failed 0 brackets. Could be due to favourite brackets as well.

8 people fell off the Top 49. frodragon, Hitagi, InvisibleOmega, Masato_Tanaka, MegatokyoED, MrDew, Pondos and Rainerria did not have Catherine winning.

19 people got it wrong and survived. Former second place Fr0zoN, former third place Rex915, voltch, AlecTrevylan006, BakusaiTenketsu, BlAcK_TuRtLe, Bran_Stark, Calintares, Crossfiyah, Jobi1, KingLionel, ps2rulezzz, PSU_Jer, t_kizzle, VincentLauw, alblito, Als52, DarkFalconX and dimi161 also did not have Catherine winning.
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#72 | Rad_Dudesman | Posted 8/5/2013 9:11:09 PM | message detail
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#73 | FFDragon | Posted 8/5/2013 9:11:14 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/846

Should have nommed Zell~~~
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#74 | dethfdddddh | Posted 8/5/2013 9:11:21 PM | message detail
CrushDavis posted...
Steins_Gate posted...
OK yeah maybe this is an outsider looking in thing but why in god's name did anyone go with Seifer?

He's SEIFER.


Well, with how strong Squall is, you'd think that Seifer would have some kind of strength as his rival. He always seems to do well in FF8 character popularity polls.


He spends the game jobbing to Squall and being a pawn. Terrible rival who added nothing to the game.
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#75 | Steins_Gate | Posted 8/5/2013 9:11:22 PM | message detail
#76 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/5/2013 9:11:22 PM | message detail
hooooly crap. The people who took Celes > Seifer comfortably (I at least saw tranny do it in the Oracle and was all "wtf") were right on the money. I think we've nominated all the "unique" FF characters we'd ever need to see. Time to get the nostalgic generic stuff like Moogles, Chocobos, and Tonberries.

Also, can someone please explain this to me. Celes was ass the only time we saw her, and in the 2009 games contest, FF8 looked just as strong, if not flat out stronger, than 6. HALP
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#77 | CP724 | Posted 8/5/2013 9:11:36 PM | message detail
Like I said before, Laguna would be 10 times better than seifer in these
#78 | Sorozone | Posted 8/5/2013 9:11:38 PM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
AlecTrevelyan006 posted...
xp1337 posted...
Actually, the way the Expert Challenge leaderboard is seeming to let me catch up Celes winning might somehow get me on there!

How the hell am I 4 points back after the catastrophe that was Division 6? I was at least 15 points behind IIRC! And that was like 36 hours ago!


No-picking and getting 0 points on several matches has moved me onto and up the leaderboard this division.

I'm playing Hard Mode and full picking everything just to make things more INTENSE.
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This is what I'm doing, seems to be working, since I'm 12th.
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#79 | Axl_Rose_85 | Posted 8/5/2013 9:12:11 PM | message detail
Wow Seifer you've outdone yourself. And to think I almost picked him to win over Knuckles. Judging character strength from Rivalry Rumble is costing me dearly this contest.
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#80 | MoogleKupo141 | Posted 8/5/2013 9:12:43 PM | message detail
so

seifer weaker than expected or Celes stronger or both
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#81 | Sorozone | Posted 8/5/2013 9:13:48 PM | message detail
Yeah Seifer is balls. Oh well, just a 0.
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#82 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 8/5/2013 9:13:49 PM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
hooooly crap. The people who took Celes > Seifer comfortably (I at least saw tranny do it in the Oracle and was all "wtf") were right on the money. I think we've nominated all the "unique" FF characters we'd ever need to see. Time to get the nostalgic generic stuff like Moogles, Chocobos, and Tonberries.

Also, can someone please explain this to me. Celes was ass the only time we saw her, and in the 2009 games contest, FF8 looked just as strong, if not flat out stronger, than 6. HALP


That's what confuses me as well...
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#83 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 8/5/2013 9:14:07 PM | message detail
Never thought Celes would get a chance to 65-35 someone
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#84 | creativename | Posted 8/5/2013 9:14:10 PM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
I think we've nominated all the "unique" FF characters we'd ever need to see. Time to get the nostalgic generic stuff like Moogles, Chocobos, and Tonberries.

Bahamut would wipe the floor with most of this bracket.
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#85 | pjbasis | Posted 8/5/2013 9:14:15 PM | message detail
Hopefully Seifer is just really unpopular otherwise I'm really afraid of Missingno now
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#86 | Lopen | Posted 8/5/2013 9:14:20 PM | message detail
Yup this is about what I expected Seifer to do. A little weaker but still comfortably losing to Celes.

Every FF8 character that isn't Squall should be expected to be ass.

You want FF8 strength ceiling look at 2002 Squall. Squall would still be around that level if not for KH. And that level is going to be far ahead of the rest of the cast. Laguna included!
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#87 | Xuxon | Posted 8/5/2013 9:14:27 PM | message detail
From: MoogleKupo141 | Posted: 8/6/2013 12:12:43 AM | #080
so

seifer weaker than expected or Celes stronger or both

both
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#88 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/5/2013 9:14:38 PM | message detail
Well Kefka, Terra, and now Celes have looked great, but Locke bombed hard. I suppose them's the breaks when you have a huge ensemble cast, but the intra-Final Fantasy SFF is just screwy. Rinoa from FF8 performed well against Aeris. Now Seifer from FF8 is bombing against Celes from FF6.

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KEFKA > SEPHIROTH FINALLY
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#89 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/5/2013 9:14:40 PM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
hooooly crap. The people who took Celes > Seifer comfortably (I at least saw tranny do it in the Oracle and was all "wtf") were right on the money. I think we've nominated all the "unique" FF characters we'd ever need to see. Time to get the nostalgic generic stuff like Moogles, Chocobos, and Tonberries.

Also, can someone please explain this to me. Celes was ass the only time we saw her, and in the 2009 games contest, FF8 looked just as strong, if not flat out stronger, than 6. HALP


I think we can't rule out a FF6 boost at this point - Seifer's got to be hurting her, too, and she's taking a nice bite out of Knuckles.

I can't explain why. But I can't discount it.
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#90 | Kibago | Posted 8/5/2013 9:14:48 PM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
hooooly crap. The people who took Celes > Seifer comfortably (I at least saw tranny do it in the Oracle and was all "wtf") were right on the money. I think we've nominated all the "unique" FF characters we'd ever need to see. Time to get the nostalgic generic stuff like Moogles, Chocobos, and Tonberries.

Also, can someone please explain this to me. Celes was ass the only time we saw her, and in the 2009 games contest, FF8 looked just as strong, if not flat out stronger, than 6. HALP


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#91 | CrushDavis | Posted 8/5/2013 9:14:58 PM | message detail
Maybe the people who are left on the site are just more nostalgic for the SNES era FFs than before. You're gonna see shifts in trends when you have like 1/3rd the people voting we had during the peak times after all.
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#92 | Greyfeld | Posted 8/5/2013 9:15:14 PM | message detail
*Sighs* My expert bracket is just shot to hell. Sat at number 10 on the leaderboard for a while, then that last division started, and I've lost points on almost every match since, and this one is going to be no different.
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#93 | xp1337 | Posted 8/5/2013 9:15:32 PM | message detail
Sorozone posted...
xp1337 posted...
AlecTrevelyan006 posted...
xp1337 posted...
Actually, the way the Expert Challenge leaderboard is seeming to let me catch up Celes winning might somehow get me on there!

How the hell am I 4 points back after the catastrophe that was Division 6? I was at least 15 points behind IIRC! And that was like 36 hours ago!


No-picking and getting 0 points on several matches has moved me onto and up the leaderboard this division.

I'm playing Hard Mode and full picking everything just to make things more INTENSE.
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This is what I'm doing, seems to be working, since I'm 12th.

Yeah, I can't complain either. I think it's probably worked out for me more than it's hurt. And it's just more fun this way, like a rollercoaster!
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#94 | Haste_2 | Posted 8/5/2013 9:15:41 PM | message detail
XD at Seifer losing to Celes. My Oracle... oh, well. It's worth the loss.

I'd still take him over Rinoa. Looks like Commander Shepard has his victory sealed for next round.
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#95 | FFDragon | Posted 8/5/2013 9:15:53 PM | message detail
I am 97% certain Zell would be stronger than Seifer in a contest setting and would be the second strongest FFVIII rep.

Not that that means TOO MUCH considering the levels of ass Seifer is bringing here, but I never understood the concentrated effort to make Seifer the number two FF8 rep from the board.
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#96 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/5/2013 9:16:08 PM | message detail
Updated Top 10

Top 10 Closest Matches
1. Lloyd Irving – 23.62% vs. Big Daddy – 23.45% - Round 1 – 0.17%
2. Alucard – 36.32% vs. Captain Falcon – 35.95% - Round 1 – 0.37%
3. Ike – 35.81% vs. Proto Man – 35.26% - Round 1 – 0.55%
4. Tharja – 36.21% vs. Tiny Tina – 35.35% - Round 1 – 0.86%
5. Viewtiful Joe – 25.65% vs. Handsome Jack – 24.20% - Round 1 – 1.45%
6. Missile – 19.26 vs. Sarah Kerrigan – 17.74% - Round 1 – 1.52%
7. Captain Viridian – 13.51% vs. Peacock – 11.60% - Round 1 – 1.91%
8. Catherine – 39.84% vs. Neku Sakuraba – 37.87% - Round 1 – 1.97%
9. Hero – 25.76% vs. Rinoa Heartilly – 23.26% - Round 1 – 2.50%
10. Mr. Game & Watch – 39.74% vs. Lee Everett – 37.12% - Round 1 – 2.62%

Top 10 Smallest Day Vote Gaps
1. Ike – 11023 vs. Proto Man – 10854 – Round 1 – 169
2. Viewtiful Joe – 7315 vs. Handsome Jack – 6901 – Round 1 – 415
3. Missile – 6138 vs. Sarah Kerrigan – 5654 – Round 1 – 484
4. Catherine – 12092 vs. Neku Sakuraba – 11493 – Round 1 – 599
5. Mr. Game & Watch – 10500 vs. Lee Everett – 9808 – Round 1 – 692
6. Hero – 8311 vs. Rinoa Heartilly – 7503 – Round 1 – 808
7. Zack Fair – 9862 vs. Ryu Hayabusa – 8955 – Round 1 – 907
8. Pokemon Trainer Blue – 14426 vs. Fox McCloud – 13207 – Round 1 – 1219
9. Miles Edgeworth – 8763 vs. Agent 47 – 7350 – Round 1 – 1413
10. Kefka – 11443 vs. Zack Fair – 9862 – Round 1 – 1581

Top 10 Least Impressive Day Winners
1. Mr. Game & Watch – Round 1 – 10500
2. Ike – Round 1 – 11023
3. Kefka – Round 1 – 11443
4. Catherine – Round 1 – 12092
5. Ness – Round 1 – 12979
6. Altair – Round 1 – 13157
7. Gilgamesh – Round 1 – 13442
8. Magus – Round 1 – 13474
9. Frog – Round 1 – 14305
10. Pokemon Trainer Blue – Round 1 – 14426

Top 10 Most Impressive Day Losers
1. Waluigi – Round 1 – 14794
2. Fox McCloud – Round 1 – 13207
3. Ridley – Round 1 – 13037
4. Terra Branford – Round 1 – 11893
5. Neku Sakuraba – Round 1 – 11493
6. KOS-MOS – Round 1 – 10944
7. Proto Man – Round 1 – 10854
8. Professor Layton – Round 1 – 10587
9. Zack Fair – Round 1 – 9862
10. Captain Olimar – Round 1 – 9829

Top 10 Least Predictable Matches
1. Mr. Game & Watch vs. Lee Everett vs. Meat Boy – Round 1 – 26.40%
2. Catherine vs. Neku Sakaruba vs. Vaas Montenegro – Round 1 – 30.43%
3. Pokemon Trainer Blue vs. Fox McCloud vs. Wolf O’Donnell – Round 1 – 32.98%
4. Draven vs. Jak vs. Chie Satonaka – Round 1 – 38.19%
5. Yoshimitsu vs. Lu Bu vs. Groose – Round 1 – 39.13%
6. Gilgamesh vs. Booker DeWitt vs. Kaim Argonar – Round 1 – 40.89%
7. Crash Bandicoot vs. Wheatley vs. Tommy Vercetti – Round 1 – 40.90%
8. Frog vs. Viewtiful Joe vs. Handsome Jack – Round 1 – 41.50%
9. Lugia vs. Sly Cooper vs. Francis York Morgan – Round 1 – 42.40%
10. Ike vs. Proto Man vs. Dr. Robotnik – Round 1 – 42.42%
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#97 | LordoftheMorons | Posted 8/5/2013 9:16:27 PM | message detail
God damnit Seifer

Also wait what, carvey has the top two brackets?
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#98 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 8/5/2013 9:16:47 PM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
hooooly crap. The people who took Celes > Seifer comfortably (I at least saw tranny do it in the Oracle and was all "wtf") were right on the money. I think we've nominated all the "unique" FF characters we'd ever need to see. Time to get the nostalgic generic stuff like Moogles, Chocobos, and Tonberries.

Also, can someone please explain this to me. Celes was ass the only time we saw her, and in the 2009 games contest, FF8 looked just as strong, if not flat out stronger, than 6. HALP


The site has shifted away from PSX Square and has seemingly shifted towards Old Square. I think characters like Kefka, Cecil, Celes, etc. are just flat out stronger than they have been in the past.

Oh, and Seifer just sucks regardless of any site shift.
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#99 | superange128 | Posted 8/5/2013 9:17:22 PM | message detail
Seifer's not a character I see people care about much

it doesn't help he loses lots of significance after Disc 1

Celes is actually a fan favorite and many argue how she's the main character in FF6 due to her pretty much leading the World of Ruin
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#100 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/5/2013 9:17:42 PM | message detail
Obviously this shows we need to get Edgar, Sabin and Shadow in.

No more FF8 jokers.
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