Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1091

#401 | ZinsanityCraze | Posted 8/4/2013 9:19:17 AM | message detail
I am damn confident that Pikachu would give Crono a run for his money in 1vs1, let alone Magus being in it. People sure love underestimating pokemon.
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#402 | Geemer02 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:19:22 AM | message detail
Yeesh, I thought Blue would win but I didnt expect this
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#403 | RBYAlwaysWins | Posted 8/4/2013 9:19:25 AM | message detail
hylianknight3 posted...
Glorious.


*salutes*

This guy rallied his ass off for Blue!
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#404 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/4/2013 9:19:32 AM | message detail
Hmm, this looks like it's gonna be one of those head-scratcher results indeed, as I still have a hard time buying Blue > Red. It'll be hard for Blue to validate this performance, though, as while he's virtually guaranteed a bye into next round (sorry yo, hope my sig is consolation enough), Pikachu/Sora/Blue is perhaps the best setup Sora could have possibly asked for.
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#405 | XIII_rocks | Posted 8/4/2013 9:19:40 AM | message detail
#406 | Kibago | Posted 8/4/2013 9:19:52 AM | message detail
it's a nice feeling to get on a good run of picks in this division after getting killed on all the debatable matches early on.

freaking groose the only thing i've had wrong in 24 matches
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#407 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/4/2013 9:20:00 AM | message detail
I still don't expect Red to be worth much, RBY artwork or not.

This is all GOF.

Gary Oak Factor.
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#408 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:20:58 AM | message detail
The most beautiful thing about this match is that it can be used to calculate how it would go 1vs1
95% of Wolf voters would vote for Fox over Blue if it was a 1vs1 match,I simply can't see someone having the opinion of Wolf>Blue>Fox as far as favorite characters go
#409 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/4/2013 9:21:12 AM | message detail
Anyway, let's look at the big Pokemon R2 matches and see how our perceptions may change after this:

Mewtwo/Vincent/Phoenix - Mewtwo will get tons more support now. Might even be the favorite heading in?
Dante/Squirtle/Zidane - Squirtle just became the big favorite.
Crono/Pikachu/Magus - Pikachu was already the favorite, but this has cemented (like freakin' drowned it in cement).
Zelda/Lightning/Charizard - Charizard was already the favorite. Bigger favorite now.

Also, don't care how crazy people may think it sounds: Cloud and Sephiroth are lucky not to have drawn Magikarp in R1.
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#410 | RySenkari (Moderator) | Posted 8/4/2013 9:21:13 AM | message detail
oh god. I have to get EVERYTHING right from here on out.

*tears up bracket*
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#411 | XIII_rocks | Posted 8/4/2013 9:21:51 AM | message detail
I can see the argument for Blue > Red, I guess. I don't agree, but I get where they're coming from
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#412 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/4/2013 9:22:00 AM | message detail
TyrekeEvans13 posted...
Another match I didn't even realize that was in question

What was the proofs for Fox > Blue? I never imagined Star Fox being higher on the totem than Pokemon


Fox was expected to be pretty close to Red, Red was expected to be considerably stronger than Blue. Even the people who took Blue here didn't think Blue would be stronger than Fox directly.
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#413 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/4/2013 9:22:26 AM | message detail
Achromatic posted...
Also I think people need to calm down a bit and remember that this is very much an SFF result. Pokemon trumps Fox and yeah. I am not afraid of Pokemon because of this result.


I feel like this is an underrated argument. For the most part this voter base is the same people and this seems like a sort of Mario/Samus result where the Nintendo hierarchy, while maybe making Fox stronger indirectly, shifts toward Pokemon in a direct match.

Of course this is just me still tryina cling to Crono > Pikachu so yeah.
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#414 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:22:33 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
Blue would take out Fox even without Wolf
And Pikachu would take down Crono even without Magus
Im totally reasonable,this is not my fanboysm talking or anything!


CALLED IT
#415 | Kibago | Posted 8/4/2013 9:22:46 AM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
Anyway, let's look at the big Pokemon R2 matches and see how our perceptions may change after this:

Mewtwo/Vincent/Phoenix - Mewtwo will get tons more support now. Might even be the favorite heading in?
Dante/Squirtle/Zidane - Squirtle just became the big favorite.
Crono/Pikachu/Magus - Pikachu was already the favorite, but this has cemented (like freakin' drowned it in cement).
Zelda/Lightning/Charizard - Charizard was already the favorite. Bigger favorite now.

Also, don't care how crazy people may think it sounds: Cloud and Sephiroth are lucky not to have drawn Magikarp in R1.


I would have pounced on Magikarp>Sephiroth in a heartbeat. I'd take the glitch over him in a rematch, too.
not Cloud, though
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#416 | Achromatic | Posted 8/4/2013 9:22:54 AM | message detail
I completely disagree with you on all of those, Yo. What a complete overreaction. You are literally taking an SFF match and making it have far more reaching consequences than it deserves. Pokemon is not a complete hivemind, as evidenced by Jiggly. Charizard granted, Pikachu due to SFF yes, but Squirtle **** no and Mewtwo only if Vincent sucks a lot.
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#417 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/4/2013 9:23:14 AM | message detail
Mewtwo/Vincent/Phoenix - Mewtwo will get tons more support now. Might even be the favorite heading in?


Watch Phoenix Wright pull off BFF (Board Fanbase Factor) and make Mewtwo look like a complete joke en route to a match with Vincent. You know it's happening!

Also I am not convinced this changes anything yet. Need time to process that there could be such a gigantic disparity between Rival and MC...in favor of the Rival. That crunk just makes no sense to me.
#418 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/4/2013 9:23:18 AM | message detail
So Mr. Game & Watch outlasts Captain Falcon and Fox.

This contest.
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#419 | dethfdddddh | Posted 8/4/2013 9:23:49 AM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
Anyway, let's look at the big Pokemon R2 matches and see how our perceptions may change after this:

Mewtwo/Vincent/Phoenix - Mewtwo will get tons more support now. Might even be the favorite heading in?
Dante/Squirtle/Zidane - Squirtle just became the big favorite.
Crono/Pikachu/Magus - Pikachu was already the favorite, but this has cemented (like freakin' drowned it in cement).
Zelda/Lightning/Charizard - Charizard was already the favorite. Bigger favorite now.

Also, don't care how crazy people may think it sounds: Cloud and Sephiroth are lucky not to have drawn Magikarp in R1.


Please. Crono gave his first strong performance in years and Pikachu didn't impress against his competition.
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#420 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/4/2013 9:23:55 AM | message detail
I really don't see how this would alter perceptions of who we've already seen in this contest by virtue of a character we've never seen before. That would be like going crazy over FF7 by seeing big performances out of Vincent and Tifa when they'd never been in a contest before!

...oh wait, that happened too.
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#421 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 8/4/2013 9:24:08 AM | message detail
Nah, I think Blue is just better than Fox, and the StarFoxFanbase match just made it easier.

I don't know if Pika can do the same with the likes of Crono and Magus.
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#422 | MoogleKupo141 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:24:19 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
The most beautiful thing about this match is that it can be used to calculate how it would go 1vs1
95% of Wolf voters would vote for Fox over Blue if it was a 1vs1 match,I simply can't see someone having the opinion of Wolf>Blue>Fox as far as favorite characters go


that is literally my opinion >_>
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#423 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:24:24 AM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
Anyway, let's look at the big Pokemon R2 matches and see how our perceptions may change after this:

Mewtwo/Vincent/Phoenix - Mewtwo will get tons more support now. Might even be the favorite heading in?
Dante/Squirtle/Zidane - Squirtle just became the big favorite.
Crono/Pikachu/Magus - Pikachu was already the favorite, but this has cemented (like freakin' drowned it in cement).
Zelda/Lightning/Charizard - Charizard was already the favorite. Bigger favorite now.

Also, don't care how crazy people may think it sounds: Cloud and Sephiroth are lucky not to have drawn Magikarp in R1.


Megaman is the worst NN Magikarp could get (well Snake too,but Snake is always known for being a neutral character that no one anti votes)
I would vote for Magikarp over anything aside from Megaman,due to pity and all
#424 | CP724 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:24:30 AM | message detail
I am damn confident that Pikachu would give Crono a run for his money in 1vs1, let alone Magus being in it. People sure love underestimating pokemon.

lol, pikachu barely double lloyd irvine.
#425 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/4/2013 9:24:35 AM | message detail
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#426 | CP724 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:25:22 AM | message detail
*irving
#427 | XIII_rocks | Posted 8/4/2013 9:25:36 AM | message detail
That said it's a good job Blue is this strong on his own, because Wolf just sucks
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#428 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/4/2013 9:25:41 AM | message detail
is this travesty what happened to sir chris
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#429 | dethfdddddh | Posted 8/4/2013 9:25:43 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
I really don't see how this would alter perceptions of who we've already seen in this contest by virtue of a character we've never seen before. That would be like going crazy over FF7 by seeing big performances out of Vincent and Tifa when they'd never been in a contest before!

...oh wait, that happened too.


he quadrupled the almighty kerrigan man
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#430 | tennisboy213 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:25:57 AM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Mewtwo/Vincent/Phoenix - Mewtwo will get tons more support now. Might even be the favorite heading in?


Watch Phoenix Wright pull off BFF (Board Fanbase Factor) and make Mewtwo look like a complete joke en route to a match with Vincent. You know it's happening!

Also I am not convinced this changes anything yet. Need time to process that there could be such a gigantic disparity between Rival and MC...in favor of the Rival. That crunk just makes no sense to me.


Red has no personality and has been stuck with Brawl pics.
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#431 | ctesjbuvf | Posted 8/4/2013 9:26:16 AM | message detail
Fr0zoN posted...
Also please RBY pics for Red. No hideous Brawl model.


He will get RBY picks, match pics are out for the rest of the round.

Safer_777 posted...
I had Blue at the start.But I chose Fox because of this board.But of course I was wrong.Heh whatever.


Blue is the favorite on this board.
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#432 | Fr0zoN | Posted 8/4/2013 9:26:36 AM | message detail
Blue is CRUSHING Fox. Best match of the contest by far
#433 | Kibago | Posted 8/4/2013 9:26:38 AM | message detail
7.5% BREACHED BY WOLF
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#434 | swordz9 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:26:52 AM | message detail
Pikachu could've at least been losing some votes to Lloyd due to both being Nintendo RPGs. Crono didn't exactly look too amazing to me and his opponents seemed weaker though I don't know contest stats. Kerrigan lost to a dog and I like to think Big Daddy and Lloyd would've beaten both.
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#435 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/4/2013 9:26:57 AM | message detail
tennisboy213 posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Mewtwo/Vincent/Phoenix - Mewtwo will get tons more support now. Might even be the favorite heading in?


Watch Phoenix Wright pull off BFF (Board Fanbase Factor) and make Mewtwo look like a complete joke en route to a match with Vincent. You know it's happening!

Also I am not convinced this changes anything yet. Need time to process that there could be such a gigantic disparity between Rival and MC...in favor of the Rival. That crunk just makes no sense to me.


Red has no personality and has been stuck with Brawl pics.


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Are we seriously

Seriously

SERIOUSLY

Making the personality argument after eight contests of Link domination? REALLY?
#436 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:26:59 AM | message detail
MoogleKupo141 posted...
Nanis23 posted...
The most beautiful thing about this match is that it can be used to calculate how it would go 1vs1
95% of Wolf voters would vote for Fox over Blue if it was a 1vs1 match,I simply can't see someone having the opinion of Wolf>Blue>Fox as far as favorite characters go


that is literally my opinion >_>

You mean that you would vote for Blue if it was a Fox vs Blue match?
Seriously?
#437 | dethfdddddh | Posted 8/4/2013 9:27:10 AM | message detail
tennisboy213 posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Mewtwo/Vincent/Phoenix - Mewtwo will get tons more support now. Might even be the favorite heading in?


Watch Phoenix Wright pull off BFF (Board Fanbase Factor) and make Mewtwo look like a complete joke en route to a match with Vincent. You know it's happening!

Also I am not convinced this changes anything yet. Need time to process that there could be such a gigantic disparity between Rival and MC...in favor of the Rival. That crunk just makes no sense to me.


Red has no personality and has been stuck with Brawl pics.


big boss stuck with port ops pics OH NO
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#438 | tennisboy213 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:27:12 AM | message detail
Pikach or Blue might beat Sora in R3 at this point.
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#439 | ZinsanityCraze | Posted 8/4/2013 9:28:17 AM | message detail
CP724 posted...
I am damn confident that Pikachu would give Crono a run for his money in 1vs1, let alone Magus being in it. People sure love underestimating pokemon.

lol, pikachu barely double lloyd irvine.


Ryu barely doubled Yuri as well, that same Yuri that got quadrupled by Tifa. It's possible for Tales characters to be stronger this year.

Have more faith in your f****** Crono. Rofl
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#440 | Safer_777 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:28:47 AM | message detail
Yeah I know. I meant that a guy from this board convinced me to switch to Fox. Of course it isn't his mistake. But anyway I am already out of this contest anyway.
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#441 | tgs2 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:28:52 AM | message detail
If Blue can stay around 52-53%, I'd give him a punchers' chance if the division final is Crono/Sora/Blue
#442 | spooky96 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:28:57 AM | message detail
tennisboy213 posted...
Pikach or Blue might beat Sora in R3 at this point.


LOL No. Sora is Sora.
#443 | XIII_rocks | Posted 8/4/2013 9:29:13 AM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
tennisboy213 posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Mewtwo/Vincent/Phoenix - Mewtwo will get tons more support now. Might even be the favorite heading in?


Watch Phoenix Wright pull off BFF (Board Fanbase Factor) and make Mewtwo look like a complete joke en route to a match with Vincent. You know it's happening!

Also I am not convinced this changes anything yet. Need time to process that there could be such a gigantic disparity between Rival and MC...in favor of the Rival. That crunk just makes no sense to me.


Red has no personality and has been stuck with Brawl pics.


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Are we seriously

Seriously

SERIOUSLY

Making the personality argument after eight contests of Link domination? REALLY?


It's not about necessarily liking the character, more nostalgia. Someone who hasn't played RBY in ages might look at Red and think "who is that? the main character in pokemon red? oh." whereas with Blue it might be more "is that GARY MOTHERF***ING OAK?"
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#444 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:29:34 AM | message detail
clearly Blue will resist Pikachu LFF to beat Sora
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#445 | LinkLegend27 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:29:47 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Hmm, this looks like it's gonna be one of those head-scratcher results indeed, as I still have a hard time buying Blue > Red. It'll be hard for Blue to validate this performance, though, as while he's virtually guaranteed a bye into next round (sorry yo, hope my sig is consolation enough), Pikachu/Sora/Blue is perhaps the best setup Sora could have possibly asked for.


Isn't that the guru cookie?
#446 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/4/2013 9:29:51 AM | message detail
tennisboy213 posted...
Pikach or Blue might beat Sora in R3 at this point.


...how would you see that going down? They're a nightmare for each other; it's very possible neither one will fold to the other and Sora will godstomp them as a result.

Blue > Fox doesn't suddenly make him a world-beater, people! Sora godstomped Fox too!
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#447 | Achromatic | Posted 8/4/2013 9:30:50 AM | message detail
Fox cut.

Haha oh man let's go Fox.
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#448 | jacko_vdz | Posted 8/4/2013 9:31:15 AM | message detail
Oh no!
#449 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:31:15 AM | message detail
Reminder of Red's match pic:

http://img.gamefaqs.net/images/cbnine/battle/5213.jpg

He's gonna clean house.
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#450 | CP724 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:31:16 AM | message detail
If Blue can stay around 52-53%, I'd give him a punchers' chance if the division final is Crono/Sora/Blue

53-54% on fox wouldnt be enough to do anything against those 2. I guess he could beat Sora.