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Pac doesn't job to Falcon. Maybe
Alucard but yeah I don't think he has the pedigree either. I think
you're underestimating just how much of an Icon you've gotta be to
embarrass Pac-Man. Keep in mind Yoshi only barely got the doubling off in 2005 or 6. Pac would probably get a good 40-45% on them honestly. As for "rallying" conspiracy theory I honestly don't think there's a very good cheating detection system in place anymore and it's all just a bluff at this point. Either there never really was a very good one or it's too human resource intensive for the administration to care to use it anymore or the typical methods have evolved beyond whatever anti-cheat methods they once had in place. Rallies just don't work the way they've been working in this contest. They've all been really fishy and much too consistent to be legitimate imhhho. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Keep in mind Yoshi only barely got the doubling off in 2005 or 6. OK yeah that is hella impressive. I'm surprised Pac-Man holds up that well to popular people. Lopen posted... Pac doesn't job to Falcon. Maybe Alucard but yeah. I think you're underestimating just how much of an Icon you've gotta be to embarrass Pac-Man. Keep in mind Yoshi only barely got the doubling off in 2005 or 6. Pac would probably get a good 40-45% on them honestly. You think? The Peacock rally was pretty clearly happening and nobody's gonna say it was cheating. |
Oh
there have been some legit rallies too. Stuff like Missile, Tharja,
and Tiny Tina to name a few seemed like legit rallies to me. It's more the ones that just happen without seeing any signs of rallying towards the end of polls in close matches (*COUGHANDDRAVENCOUGH*) that are suspicious. Alucard vs Falcon, Lloyd vs Big Daddy, Protoman vs Ike etc etc. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Not
all rallies are cheating. Rallies that defy or even reverse trends and
that have no real explanation as to how they're holding up are extremely
suspect (and my favorite character in these things has been a big
beneficiary, so I'm not playing favorites). Alucard isn't the highest profile one, but it's about as blatant as you get. The fact that he had his best hour of the match after the sun went up is ridiculous. --- sig |
*COUGHANDDRAVENCOUGH* I'd take a bow here, but Draven's rally happened three hours in. It wasn't exactly towards the end of the poll! |
That's
why I said "and Draven" cause that wasn't really the same kinda profile
but still was 100% bogus (well, like 80% bogus, since a lot of rallied
votes were providing a smokescreen too) no matter what cover story Devin
Morgan gives us. The very flat trends of the rallying and perhaps more
significantly where the votes came from made no sense there. The
administration would normally have taken action against something so
blatant but there were probably a few thousand legit rallied hits
there too and it was a fodder match so may as well increase the site
traffic next round. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Oh whoops I missed the 'and' there. So many d's all mashed together tripped me up! But yeah, I do think that if there were rallies for Alucard and co. they were clearly smokescreens for some cheating. I'm not sure there were any though. Apparently Alucard's always had a good morning vote and I didn't know about it, so I can't say it was totally bogus. |
-LusterSoldier- posted... SubDeity posted...In case he's on...out of interest, Luster, do you know how many votes each country typically contributes based on the percentages they show? I've noticed that Finland produces significantly more votes than I'd expect. It's way late now, but no, there weren't any particular countries. I was just wondering if you have any estimate for a "typical" vote count by country. How many countries give us over 50 votes, etc. --- "Hamas isn't really a terror organization." -Terran [Evil Republican] Play Der Langrisser. |
Are you joking? Alucard's MO has always been "like any self respecting vampire, dies when the sun comes up" Falcon's morning vote has never been stellar either but yeah there's no reason card should've won that if he couldn't put it away at night. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
KanzarisKelshen posted... Oh whoops I missed the 'and' there. So many d's all mashed together tripped me up! whoever told you this is lying Alucard has a good argument for having the worst morning vote in the contest, ever. He lost the morning vote to LIQUID SNAKE, who I could arguably win the morning vote against --- sig |
Is
that so? I remember someone saying that Alucard has a good morning vote
and DSV, but I freely confess I haven't gone looking for his trends! |
Yo THAT CUT What the hell happened to you Drake! |
Seriously, he literally pulled in just 37 votes there. That's nuts! He was seven votes away from losing that update to Steve! |
I
think Alucard's DSV is "okay" but yeah his morning vote actually might
be the worst in the contest as KH said. Really though no matter when
Alucard started making that move given he was hardly damaging Falcon at
night which is Alucard's strongest block and Falcon's weakest block it
would've been suspicious. Morning is the most because Alucard hates the
morning sun vanquishing the terrible night that much but yeah. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Lopen posted... I think Alucard's DSV is "okay" but yeah his morning vote actually might be the worst in the contest as KH said. Really though no matter when Alucard started making that move given he was hardly damaging Falcon at night which is Alucard's strongest block and Falcon's weakest block it would've been suspicious. Morning is the most because Alucard hates the morning sun vanquishing the terrible night that much but yeah. So in other words that match can be summed up like this: "What a horrible morning to have a curse." |
Drake
looks like he's gonna be fine for now, it's just with the incredibly
low number of votes we're pulling in right now there's gonna be some
crazy looking updates if someone drops off. This is also why it behooves us to look at the trends from the standpoint of 15 minute updates <_< --- sig |
Yeah calling this for Drake with that lackluster hour for Pac. But I bet Drake's going to need a "rally" to hold on with the morning vote. Just a feeling. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
So with how terrible Steve is doing, Creeper or King of All Cosmos for 2nd place? --- "In fact, I should just play good games from now on... Man, F*** THAT, let's play some s***ty ones!" - Angry Video Game Nerd |
WhiteLens posted... So with how terrible Steve is doing, Creeper or King of All Cosmos for 2nd place? Drake & Pac > Wario & King Creeper > Steve Creeper probably still wins, though Wario may very well make it close. --- The Gamer In Me His dark secret is he's really Spark Brushel in disguise. If people knew, he'd be ruined. - Spiral on the black psyche locks |
It's Pac +5 total for that last half hour. This hour's shaping up to be a lot better for him... so far. --- sig |
I
just realized Yoshimitsu could win the division if he gets by Sora.
Pikachu and Fox LFF to give the Robin Hood of gaming the win --- Feeling tired? Allow me to prescribe you a peppermint latte |
Pac-Man
is doing a good job at stalling Drake here. Drake's lead has only
increased by 5 since the 3:37 AM update. If Pac-Man can keep the lead
within 300 votes heading into the morning vote, he will have a chance to
pull off a comeback. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
Not sure why people are expecting Pacman to run away with it with Europe. Nathan is winning UK which is the most important. --- nt |
Dr_Coffee posted... I just realized Yoshimitsu could win the division if he gets by Sora. Pikachu and Fox LFF to give the Robin Hood of gaming the win No. --- The Constitution defines treason as giving aid and comfort to the enemy. Mr. Snowden is being called a traitor. Does that mean the American public is the enemy? |
Dr_Coffee posted... I just realized Yoshimitsu could win the division if he gets by Sora. I just realized Fawful could win the division if he gets by Mario. --- Zinsanity of the Helix Board |
Drake
finishes the hour a lot stronger than Pac began it, making it Drake +47
for the half hour and +42 for the hour overall. Pac's gotta stall a bit
better and really hope to catch some morning vote fire, which is still
pretty shaky since it hasn't really happened all contest (except for
Alucard, but...) edit: oh, and if anyone still cares about Ocelot/Pac comparisons, at this time in the match (5 AM EST) Pac-Man had 48.72% of the vote, compared to his current 48.56% on Drake. He had 51.23% at 12 PM EST. The match had only been going on for two hours instead of five hours, though, at the 5 hour mark in 2k5 Pac had 49.65%. --- sig |
Karma Hunter posted... Drake finishes the hour a lot stronger than Pac began it, making it Drake +47 for the half hour and +42 for the hour overall. Pac's gotta stall a bit better and really hope to catch some morning vote fire, which is still pretty shaky since it hasn't really happened all contest (except for Alucard, but...) Additionally, I don't think Drake's day vote is quite as horrid as Ocelot's is. --- The Constitution defines treason as giving aid and comfort to the enemy. Mr. Snowden is being called a traitor. Does that mean the American public is the enemy? |
He got completely rocked by The Boss
in the day, but yes, Drake having a day vote on par with Ocelot would
be a feat of awfulness to be sure. No reason to impugn a character by
presuming they're *that* bad. It looks like Drake's gonna make a similar gain for this hour as he did for last hour, and so by the time the morning vote starts really seeping in Pac's probably gonna be fighting against a lead of... 450 or so? Starting at 6 AM against Ocelot, which we're heading into, his percentage started its inexorable rise and really never let up. --- sig |
Karma Hunter posted... He got completely rocked by The Boss in the day, but yes, Drake having a day vote on par with Ocelot would be a feat of awfulness to be sure. No reason to impugn a character by presuming they're *that* bad. It's hard to gauge Drake's day vote potential from that match though, since there was no night vote. Who knows how badly Drake would've lost that match had it been 24 hours. --- The Constitution defines treason as giving aid and comfort to the enemy. Mr. Snowden is being called a traitor. Does that mean the American public is the enemy? |
Yeah,
no doubt. The only thing that tempers me with that is the 'better' you
make Drake's day vote look relative to The Boss, the more absolutely
awful his 24 hour strength becomes. Which isn't exactly unbelievable
considering he's in the fight of his life against Pac-Man, but yeah. Drake +42 that hour, just like last hour. --- sig |
Yeah
I have to say I'm really disappointed with Drake here. Sure, he wasn't
exactly a beacon of strength having lost to The Boss, but then again he
got doubled by CATS a year earlier. I was expecting another big boost
for him. --- The Constitution defines treason as giving aid and comfort to the enemy. Mr. Snowden is being called a traitor. Does that mean the American public is the enemy? |
I just woke up.Let us see... 1)26% for Game and Watch?Amazing low.Congrats to people that got it right. 2)Okay this match was amazing at the start based on what I read.Lead changes and 2 keeping close.Too bad I lost.Anyway I still can't believe that a generic west white male lead beat Pac Man. --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
Don't
think Pac has any chance at a comeback here. Ah well, it was close
enough that I don't feel bad for having Pac > Nathan. This contest just seems to have a habit of kicking me in all the close matches. --- Bracket score: 46 / Expert score: 218 |
One of my most looked forward to match is about to start 4 more hours till Blue is going to show you the real definition of POKEFEAR The first match in the series,followed by Pikachu>Crono and Mewtwo>Vincent |
Pac-Man is starting to gain percentage in the US right now. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
Drake
finishes that last hour at +13 - which is pretty relieving for him, as
he was threatening to lose it outright to Pac up until those last 10
minutes or so. Pac is doing a lot better, but unless he improves this
pace considerably it won't matter except to make Drake look really,
really, really bad. We're entering the 8-9 AM timeframe, which is where Pac-Man finally overtook Ocelot. He had 49.65% at this time. Pac has 48.42% on Drake right now. --- sig |
Safer_777 posted... I just woke up.Let us see... If anything it's surprising that Pac-Man even got close to beating Drake at all. Drake isn't just a one-game character like most of these "generic white male leads" - he's the face of an entire franchise, and his name is in two of his games (although neither of them is his most popular). Somehow I'm starting to feel like Samus and Lightning won't feel the effects of "disappointing game syndrome" like Ryu Hayabusa and the cast of PSASBR have done, at least not to the same extent. --- Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC |
Drake broke 50% there. No messing around on the home stretch. --- We are living our lives Abound with so much information |
Heh,
and now as we're getting into the morning vote proper, Drake is
catching fire in a way he hasn't all match. Looks like he may be
day-oriented after all! (and that a 24 hour match with The Boss would
have been very embarrassing indeed) --- sig |
Nanis23 posted... One of my most looked forward to match is about to start As the guy who rallied Blue into this contest, I feel ya man. |
Drake
is actually a likeable main character. He's not one of the best I've
ever seen but I know I voted for him because I like him and not because
he's the main character in a good series. --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. SuperNiceDog > Me |
Very nice, Drake! Pad the lead to 500 and he gets the win here! Yeah, Drake's not that bad a lead character. But more importantly, he's had three major games, unlike Booker and many other new characters that bombed. That should be enough to beat out fodder like Pac-Man, though he'll have a really hard time trying to win that next match for sure. --- Drop it to the floor... |
Karma Hunter posted... Heh, and now as we're getting into the morning vote proper, Drake is catching fire in a way he hasn't all match. Looks like he may be day-oriented after all! (and that a 24 hour match with The Boss would have been very embarrassing indeed) Pac-Man is still gaining percentage in the US. The problem is that it takes a while for the US to wake up on the weekend, so the morning vote doesn't kick in as fast as usual. North America only got 54.84% during the 8-9 AM hour for the 2010 continent poll, while Europe got 32.35% during that same time period. So even at this time, Europe still has a lot of influence on the individual updates. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
I'm
feeling better about Blue's chances here. Having Fox duke it out with
another Smash cohort for percentage means good things for Blue. --- Drop it to the floor... |
-LusterSoldier- posted... Karma Hunter posted...Heh, and now as we're getting into the morning vote proper, Drake is catching fire in a way he hasn't all match. Looks like he may be day-oriented after all! (and that a 24 hour match with The Boss would have been very embarrassing indeed) Here's hoping the kiddies did a lot of drinking yesterday and wont wake up til the next match.... --- Drop it to the floor... |
Karma Hunter posted... Heh, and now as we're getting into the morning vote proper, Drake is catching fire in a way he hasn't all match. Looks like he may be day-oriented after all! (and that a 24 hour match with The Boss would have been very embarrassing indeed) I thought that Uncharted 2's matches in GOTD were proof that Uncharted is night-oriented. Pac-Man might just be god-awful during the day, and I'm not really sure if that's supposed to make sense. Oh wait apparently he used the ASV to defeat Ocelot - MGS character or not, I guess that settles it. --- Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC |
Fox > Blue > Wolf Betting on some fierce Star Fox/Pokemon overlap here and Fox being stronger than Blue indirectly, which is hardly a big longshot here. --- Agent Triple Zero at your service! The artist formerly known as greatone10. |
_SecretSquirrel posted... Fox > Blue > Wolf Fox easily wrecks Blue indirectly, given that Blue = Red at best and that Red is just a touch above Ocelot. Honestly this next match is really all about how much Wolf is able to stand up to Fox - if he gets annihilated into looking like bad fodder Fox should have more than enough percentage to beat Blue. If he can't that would be really depressing, because it means Wolf actually has fans. --- sig |
If Wolf wasn't there, 95% of the board would side with Fox. It's only because Wolf is there that the problem arises. But I dunno. We haven't really seen an instance of LFF meaning much this contest (Kirby struggling to break 55% on Terra Branford can come to mind, but Terra also stood out a lot in the match pic and Kirby was the obvious winner there anyway). Okay, rank all these characters in order of strength: Jigglypuff Mr. Game & Watch Ridley Peach Marth Ness Bayonetta Pac-Man Nathan Drake Gilgamesh --- Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC |
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