Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1091

#451 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/4/2013 9:31:36 AM | message detail
While Blue>Red could be true, I think it's more likely that the Brawl pics just made it too hard for voters to recognize Red as...Red. He should do better this year.
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#452 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 8/4/2013 9:31:50 AM | message detail
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#453 | ctesjbuvf | Posted 8/4/2013 9:31:51 AM | message detail
Seriously people, would you stop completely overreacting on the first 20 minutes of a match. This doesn't necesarily mean Pokemon is gonna godstomp this contest. We've seen several Pokemon already and none of them were super impressive.

And Blue is not destroying Fox, it's not that big a difference between them. He's winning yes, but that's not the same thing. You can't really judge much in this match filled with SFF.
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#454 | kinsho3 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:31:52 AM | message detail
dethfdddddh posted...
Please. Crono gave his first strong performance in years and Pikachu didn't impress against his competition.


I hate harping on the same point over and over again, but that wasn't a strong performance. Not when a virtually unknown character would put up 20% on you on account of cuteness.
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#455 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/4/2013 9:32:02 AM | message detail
Also, if Crono supporters can take heart in one thing, it's that Wolf knows what the deal is - fold and fold with totality. If Magus can do the same thing to save Crono Pikachu is in for the fight of his life.
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#456 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:32:11 AM | message detail
dethfdddddh posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
I really don't see how this would alter perceptions of who we've already seen in this contest by virtue of a character we've never seen before. That would be like going crazy over FF7 by seeing big performances out of Vincent and Tifa when they'd never been in a contest before!

...oh wait, that happened too.


he quadrupled the almighty kerrigan man


This reminds me that I still don't understand why people consider Crono performance amazing but Magus performance subpar
If Jade is so weak and Magus should've gotten a much better score on her,who says that Kerrigan was not weak as hell also? she lost to a dog..
Don't care if she had a legit strength before,that was before HotS ruined her character
#457 | Achromatic | Posted 8/4/2013 9:32:25 AM | message detail
kinsho3 posted...
dethfdddddh posted...
Please. Crono gave his first strong performance in years and Pikachu didn't impress against his competition.


I hate harping on the same point over and over again, but that wasn't a strong performance. Not when a virtually unknown character would put up 20% on you on account of cuteness.


Missile had a rally, you realize.
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#458 | raginbull911 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:32:31 AM | message detail
TRY A SOMERSAULT, FOX!
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#459 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/4/2013 9:33:04 AM | message detail
I don't know what to think of Corvo there. Either he stands out like a sore thumb, or he blends into the background and is invisible as a result. Probably the latter.

Sissel is so beating him. Though someone told me earlier that Corvo is in exactly the same position as pre-HL2 Gordon Freeman, which I confirmed is not correct thanks to my brother who actually plays Dishonored.
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#460 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/4/2013 9:33:28 AM | message detail
BK_Sheikah00 posted...
Reminder of Red's match pic:

http://img.gamefaqs.net/images/cbnine/battle/5213.jpg

He's gonna clean house.


Red pulling in 90% there wouldn't surprise me. Sissel takes 9%, Corvo takes 1.
#461 | XIII_rocks | Posted 8/4/2013 9:34:02 AM | message detail
ctesjbuvf posted...
Seriously people, would you stop completely overreacting on the first 20 minutes of a match. This doesn't necesarily mean Pokemon is gonna godstomp this contest. We've seen several Pokemon already and none of them were super impressive.

And Blue is not destroying Fox, it's not that big a difference between them. He's winning yes, but that's not the same thing. You can't really judge much in this match filled with SFF.


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#462 | kinsho3 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:34:46 AM | message detail
Achromatic posted...

Missile had a rally, you realize.


Yeah, a few hundred more votes. Big whoop. Even without the rally, he still might have beaten Kerrigan.
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#463 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:34:59 AM | message detail
If Sissel got the same strength as Missile than yes he is getting second
But..we really don't know how much THE CUTE DOG FACTOR helped Missile
#464 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/4/2013 9:35:09 AM | message detail
kinsho3 posted...
Achromatic posted...

Missile had a rally, you realize.


Yeah, a few hundred more votes. Big whoop. Even without the rally, he still might have beaten Kerrigan.


He's talking about how rallies inflate percentage.
#465 | Fr0zoN | Posted 8/4/2013 9:35:21 AM | message detail
Corvo has no chance of doing anything at all. If new characters from friggin Zelda are getting dominated by Yoshimitsu and Lu Bu then what chance does Corvo have?
#466 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/4/2013 9:35:31 AM | message detail
BK_Sheikah00 posted...
Reminder of Red's match pic:

http://img.gamefaqs.net/images/cbnine/battle/5213.jpg

He's gonna clean house.


Man, that has to be some of the weakest competition in the entire field. Red is going to murder them regardless.
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#467 | Achromatic | Posted 8/4/2013 9:36:53 AM | message detail
Yeah, exactly. % inflation. Crono god stomped them both into the ground, he more than tripled both of them. So a few hundred votes probably took a % or 2 away from Crono.
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#468 | ZeldaTPLink | Posted 8/4/2013 9:38:00 AM | message detail
Can we say this is a case of Sore Thumb Factor?

I mean, just look at the pic.
#469 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/4/2013 9:38:04 AM | message detail
Setting Missile's votes equal to Kerrigan's (and without any rallies I'd wager he's worth less), that's a difference of a significant chunk of percentage alone in this format. Crono did fine even assuming Kerrigan is the total weakling she's always been.
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#470 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/4/2013 9:39:15 AM | message detail
I will now spend the next three weeks convincing myself that Nathan Drake has a chance. WHO IS WITH ME.




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#471 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/4/2013 9:39:18 AM | message detail
My big hope is that seein RBY Artwork Red will make a lightbulb go off in GameFAQS' head, and they'll recognize him forever after that. Worked for Big Boss!
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#472 | tennisboy213 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:39:33 AM | message detail
LOL those sigs are so awesome
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#473 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:39:44 AM | message detail
Fr0zoN posted...
Corvo has no chance of doing anything at all. If new characters from friggin Zelda are getting dominated by Yoshimitsu and Lu Bu then what chance does Corvo have?


Sissel is new character too
Unless you believe that DS and 3DS characters are somehow not weak when they are new?
#474 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/4/2013 9:39:57 AM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
I will now spend the next three weeks convincing myself that Nathan Drake has a chance. WHO IS WITH ME.




GUYS?


You picked Charmander. Blue picked Squirtle.
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#475 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/4/2013 9:40:09 AM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
My big hope is that seein RBY Artwork Red will make a lightbulb go off in GameFAQS' head, and they'll recognize him forever after that. Worked for Big Boss!


I dunno, have we ever seen Big Boss with melty art since he got his Naked Snake pic? He seemed way weaker the following round in 2008.
#476 | Denzokuken | Posted 8/4/2013 9:40:22 AM | message detail
Can we stop saying this is down to SFF and standout factor and all that crap and accept Blue is damn good. He's beating Fox and Wolf combined. Before the match quite a few people were predicting him to get less than 40%, saying he wouldn't do much, now he is doing a lot and people scramble to find any excuse.
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#477 | MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/4/2013 9:40:39 AM | message detail
Wow.. so that last minute switch to Blue after thinking about 3 ways possibly working in a different light paid off but..

being stronger than both combined? Not even considered by me.
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#478 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/4/2013 9:41:07 AM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
ChenKenichiFan posted...
I will now spend the next three weeks convincing myself that Nathan Drake has a chance. WHO IS WITH ME.




GUYS?


You picked Charmander. Blue picked Squirtle.


Bad example because with dem high speed autocrit slashes Charizard bodied Blastoise every time! More like going with a six-magikarp team against the champ!
#479 | dethfdddddh | Posted 8/4/2013 9:42:26 AM | message detail | (edited)
KamikazePotato posted...
My big hope is that seein RBY Artwork Red will make a lightbulb go off in GameFAQS' head, and they'll recognize him forever after that. Worked for Big Boss!


But RBY Red and Brawl Red are virtually identical.

Big Boss's old man squiggly art against Auron in 2k5 and his later pics are not comparable.
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#480 | Safer_777 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:41:17 AM | message detail
1vs1 Blue would win with around 53% I guess correct?
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#481 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:41:32 AM | message detail
I expected Blue to win, though not by this much.... also surprised that Fox is doing this well against Wolf, though that's probably silly of me, considering how weak Wolf probably is.
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#482 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 8/4/2013 9:42:25 AM | message detail
Red has problems similar to ZSS when he gets a SSBB or FRLG picture. It doesn't really looks that much like how he looks in RBY. You can literally find people who treat SSBB Pokemon Trainer and Red as completely different characters. He has a second problem of his name not being very recognizable. Almost everyone who plays Pokemon changes the trainer name to either their own name or something else. On top of that, Red is only one of the default names in Red/Yellow (not Blue!) and it isn't even the most popular one (Ash is).

*Pokemon GSC spoilers*
Red's official name comes from being the true final boss of Pokemon GSC. GSC is strong but it's not RBY and you have to get to the very end to see it.

I've said stuff like this before and I really wish I stuck to this line of thinking and the belief that Red got screwed by his pictures when I made my bracket. I think I scared myself off it by convincing myself that Blue and Red couldn't be more popular than popular Pokemon when there is no real reason they can't.
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#483 | kinsho3 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:43:42 AM | message detail | (edited)
KanzarisKelshen posted...
kinsho3 posted...
Achromatic posted...

Missile had a rally, you realize.


Yeah, a few hundred more votes. Big whoop. Even without the rally, he still might have beaten Kerrigan.


He's talking about how rallies inflate percentage.


Oh duh. How the hell did I not catch that...?

All right, let's do some quick math:
Let's say Missile received roughly ~500 votes less, meaning that he ended the match tied to Kerrigan. I'll spare you guys all the numbers, but after doing some rough calculations, I still find that Missile would put over 20% on Crono in a 1v1 matchup. Still not a good performance.
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#484 | CP724 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:42:42 AM | message detail
It's not like this makes him amazing or anything, hed be beat Fox 1 on 1 with about 52-53% probably assuming he gets any of wolfs votes. Which makes a pretty strong mid carder, nothing too crazy.
#485 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:44:19 AM | message detail | (edited)
ChenKenichiFan posted...
I will now spend the next three weeks convincing myself that Nathan Drake has a chance. WHO IS WITH ME.




GUYS?


Blastoise match pic.
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#486 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:43:27 AM | message detail
Safer_777 posted...
1vs1 Blue would win with around 53% I guess correct?


I think he should get more than raw %..if we can only know how many Wolf voters would give their votes to Blue instead of Fox
There aren't many,but I would say 5-10%?
#487 | jacko_vdz | Posted 8/4/2013 9:43:27 AM | message detail
It amazes me how Fox can get 85% on Wolf. I guess LPF & all, but surely some people must of preferred him in Brawl or something?
#488 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/4/2013 9:44:13 AM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
I will now spend the next three weeks convincing myself that Nathan Drake has a chance. WHO IS WITH ME.




GUYS?


Assume that all of Wolf's votes would have otherwise gone to Fox, that Blue's percentage will level off, and thus Blue = Fox. Assume that Pac-Man has been continually underrated and assume that he maintains his performance with Ocelot, which puts Drake on par with Red. Assume G&W puts a hurting on Blue that we can't see Fox/Wolf take advantage of because of intra-Nintendo SFF.

...yeah.
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#489 | Achromatic | Posted 8/4/2013 9:44:52 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
ChenKenichiFan posted...
I will now spend the next three weeks convincing myself that Nathan Drake has a chance. WHO IS WITH ME.




GUYS?


Assume that all of Wolf's votes would have otherwise gone to Fox, that Blue's percentage will level off, and thus Blue = Fox. Assume that Pac-Man has been continually underrated and assume that he maintains his performance with Ocelot, which puts Drake on par with Red. Assume G&W puts a hurting on Blue that we can't see Fox/Wolf take advantage of because of intra-Nintendo SFF.

...yeah.


Karma Hunter, I am giving you a tip of the hat for this.
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#490 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/4/2013 9:48:05 AM | message detail
Thanks fellow sig-shackled user
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#491 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:48:16 AM | message detail
Why are people already starting to post in the other topic!
Get this to 500
#492 | tennisboy213 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:49:33 AM | message detail
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#493 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/4/2013 9:49:38 AM | message detail
jacko_vdz posted...
It amazes me how Fox can get 85% on Wolf. I guess LPF & all, but surely some people must of preferred him in Brawl or something?


Wolf is absolute freakin' ass in Brawl. He has like a 1-9 matchup against Sheik IIRC, it's pathetic.
#494 | Safer_777 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:49:43 AM | message detail
So that means that Squirtle and Pikachu are the favorites?Great 2 more matches I will get wrong.Nice.
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#495 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:50:07 AM | message detail
I hate Wolf because he is the third Fox clone
Falco was bad enough
#496 | raginbull911 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:50:37 AM | message detail
I CAN'T LET YOU DO THAT, STAR FOX.
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#497 | jacko_vdz | Posted 8/4/2013 9:51:38 AM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
jacko_vdz posted...
It amazes me how Fox can get 85% on Wolf. I guess LPF & all, but surely some people must of preferred him in Brawl or something?


Wolf is absolute freakin' ass in Brawl. He has like a 1-9 matchup against Sheik IIRC, it's pathetic.


Weird, I always thought he was mid tier while shiek was low tier. Wolf's FSMash always seemed really good

That said, I never really followed competitive Brawl (Melee is awesome though!)
#498 | Safer_777 | Posted 8/4/2013 9:52:22 AM | message detail
So both Wolf and Fox are in Smash Brothers?
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#499 | Denzokuken | Posted 8/4/2013 9:52:37 AM | message detail
Blue > Cloud > Snake
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