Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1090

#201 | redrocket | Posted 8/3/2013 11:49:45 AM | message detail
After all this time.

Sweet leaderboard glory is finally mine!
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#202 | ZFS | Posted 8/3/2013 11:53:44 AM | message detail
Yeah, people are kinda nuts if they think Uncharted 3 wasn't a huge deal for both Uncharted and Drake. The awareness, hype, and response to that game was huge. It took Uncharted from a series with one great game people loved to Sony's premiere franchise. Drake is the Sony guy lately, certainly from this gen. Obviously that doesn't guarantee anything, but anyone thinking Drake hasn't moved much from three years ago is way off. U2 sold 2 million more copies in that timeframe alone.
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#203 | DoctorJimmy133 | Posted 8/3/2013 11:59:13 AM | message detail
LinkMarioSamus posted...
What kind of world do we live in where Mr. Game & Watch wins a match over the main characters of critically-acclaimed, high-selling new games?

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Ness_vs_Carl_Johnson_2005
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/%284%29Captain_Falcon_vs_%2813%29Wander_2010

Nanis23 posted...
Kotetsu534 posted...
Given that Silent Assassin lost to a game called Jedi Outcast in its GOTY poll, this site.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/1132


My god..
This site sucks

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/star-wars-jedi-knight-ii-jedi-outcast
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/hitman-2-silent-assassin
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#204 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/3/2013 12:10:20 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
what about the other European countries then
(also Asia splits, not that it really matters)


Any specific European countries you want to know about?


As for Asia, the Philippines makes up about 27% of Asia's total votes. Indonesia is about 15% of Asia's votes, while Malaysia is around 12% of Asia's votes. Those 3 countries make up close to 55% of Asia's votes.
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#205 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/3/2013 12:12:23 PM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
1337gamerpr0 posted...
what about the other European countries then
(also Asia splits, not that it really matters)


Any specific European countries you want to know about?


As for Asia, the Philippines makes up about 27% of Asia's total votes. Indonesia is about 15% of Asia's votes, while Malaysia is around 12% of Asia's votes. Those 3 countries make up close to 55% of Asia's votes.


I guess France and Germany, seeing as they should make up a majority of the rest of Europe (maybe Ireland too?)
#206 | Lopen | Posted 8/3/2013 12:25:02 PM | message detail
I'd be curious to know every part of Europe that contributes 10% or more of the vote.
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#207 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/3/2013 12:48:18 PM | message detail | (edited)
Anyone with a zoom in probably contributes a lot so...

Americas
Brazil
Canada
Mexico
United States

Asia
Philippines

Europe
Finland
France
Germany
Italy
Netherlands
Sweden
United Kingdom

Oceania
Australia
New Zealand

Any of the other countries probably don't contribute much.
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#208 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/3/2013 12:46:08 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
I guess France and Germany, seeing as they should make up a majority of the rest of Europe (maybe Ireland too?)


LOL, Ireland isn't even in the top 10 for Europe. The UK, the Netherlands, Sweden, Germany, Finland, Norway, Denmark, Italy, France, Portugal, and Russia all contribute more votes than Ireland, based on what I calculated for this year's age poll.


Lopen posted...
I'd be curious to know every part of Europe that contributes 10% or more of the vote.


The Netherlands is the only other part of Europe that would contribute at least 10% of the vote. In fact, the Netherlands contributes about 10% of Europe's votes on average and they are the second biggest source of votes from Europe (the UK is number one).
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#209 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/3/2013 12:49:55 PM | message detail
whoa didn't even notice the Netherlands had a region breakdown
learn something new every day I guess?
#210 | Lopen | Posted 8/3/2013 12:51:29 PM | message detail
Oh that's pretty surprising I expected it to be less balanced than that. With like 50% of the remaining vote coming from four or five countries and then the rest being worth almost nothing.

See who said having a factoid generating robot in here wouldn't be useful and interesting from time to time!
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#211 | anondum | Posted 8/3/2013 1:10:09 PM | message detail
seems like lee is slowly creeping up
#212 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 8/3/2013 1:16:58 PM | message detail
Nah, Game & Watch is still building his lead like he's done most of the match.
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#213 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/3/2013 1:19:28 PM | message detail
anondum posted...
seems like lee is slowly creeping up


is this another one of those %gains=cuts guys
please tell me it's not
#214 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/3/2013 1:19:40 PM | message detail
DoctorJimmy133 posted...
LinkMarioSamus posted...
What kind of world do we live in where Mr. Game & Watch wins a match over the main characters of critically-acclaimed, high-selling new games?

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Ness_vs_Carl_Johnson_2005
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/%284%29Captain_Falcon_vs_%2813%29Wander_2010


I don't see the point of citing those two examples. No one plays GTA for the characters, and the second match took place before Shadow of the Colossus started to get talked about EVERYWHERE on the Internet (that actually irritates me occasionally, since whenever I play SOTC I'm like "...literally everything that has to be said about this game has already been said. I can't come up with anything to add or any reason of my own to like this game a lot).

On the other hand, Meat Boy is a platformer hero with SNAG factor while Lee actually does star in a character-driven game. Meanwhile Mr. Game & Watch doesn't have nearly as much to his name compared to Ness or Captain Falcon.
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#215 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/3/2013 1:21:02 PM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Nanis23 posted...
I'm taking Drake
Uncharted 3 came out 2 years ago,there might be a chance he is even stronger than what he was in 2010
He sure came a long way..from being doubled by CATS to going head-to-head with The Boss
And Pacman never was strong..he was even equal to Wander one time..so yeah..


...using Pac-Man from a match where he had to share the poll with freakin' Mario is ridiculous.


Pac Man is a classic character,he is not supposed to be SFF'd by anyone AS EVERYONE PLAYED Pacman
This is like to say that Link can SFF "Left Pong Paddle"
You know,maybe you are right and L-Block lost to Pikachu because Crono SFF'd it?


Actually Pac-Man being a classic character is specifically his problem - he is always SFFd by other old-school icons. Mario is arguably his worst possible opponent.
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#216 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/3/2013 1:27:12 PM | message detail
Sorozone posted...
Drake gonna have that Playstation All-Stars boost.


For what it's worth, Playstation All-Stars may have contributed to Big Daddy's fall from grace.

When your last two games suffered from retroactive backlash and weren't all that well-received to begin with, respectively, you're in for trouble. Especially when you're not in many games to begin with.

That being said, with HaRRicH's theory that most post-Brawl Wii games have low playrates on this site, could Samus avoid going down in strength?
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#217 | SliceSabre | Posted 8/3/2013 1:38:30 PM | message detail
For this battle I honestly just rolled the dice and went with "Well, there's a lot of Nintendo fanboys on Gamefaqs. Maybe with that and Brawl, G & W can win this."
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#218 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/3/2013 1:40:09 PM | message detail
Also I suppose the both of today's matches are the final referendum on characters who debuted in recent (2010 and after) games.

Which is precisely what Nathan Drake is not.
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#219 | DoctorJimmy133 | Posted 8/3/2013 1:47:07 PM | message detail
LinkMarioSamus posted...
DoctorJimmy133 posted...
LinkMarioSamus posted...
What kind of world do we live in where Mr. Game & Watch wins a match over the main characters of critically-acclaimed, high-selling new games?

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Ness_vs_Carl_Johnson_2005
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/%284%29Captain_Falcon_vs_%2813%29Wander_2010


I don't see the point of citing those two examples. No one plays GTA for the characters

The main character of a critically-acclaimed, high-selling, then-new game losing to a character who gets almost all his strength from Smash. And if actual character development was a very important attribute to have, there would be no LAW.

the second match took place before Shadow of the Colossus started to get talked about EVERYWHERE on the Internet (that actually irritates me occasionally, since whenever I play SOTC I'm like "...literally everything that has to be said about this game has already been said. I can't come up with anything to add or any reason of my own to like this game a lot).

Why do you go off on these tangents that are completely irrelevant to the Character Battle where you state your opinion like we care? Your posts would be a lot more readable if you included only the pertinent details.

On the other hand, Meat Boy is a platformer hero with SNAG factor while Lee actually does star in a character-driven game. Meanwhile Mr. Game & Watch doesn't have nearly as much to his name compared to Ness or Captain Falcon.

Ness and Captain Falcon would be complete and total turbofodder if not for Smash. G&W is probably weaker than those two since he only has two games, but that's where his strength comes from, and Lee and Meat are indie characters on anti-indieFAQs. Plus, neither one is iconic. Plus, they're new. Plus, "idk,votes nintendo" votes.

I have Lee in my bracket, and his performance here shows that he could have won, but it's clear why he isn't.
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#220 | HaRRicH | Posted 8/3/2013 1:48:31 PM | message detail
Team Rocket Elite posted...
Sorozone posted...
Drake gonna have that Playstation All-Stars boost.


Sure helped Big Daddy. >_>



Speaking of which, time to update how PSABR-characters have done so far:

Big Daddy: 23.45% on Pikachu/Lloyd
Cole MacGrath: 23.82% on GLaDOS/Ragna
Dante: 60.08% on Laharl/Raz
Jak: 33.2% on Chie/rallied Draven
Kat (DLC): 17.65% on Shadow/Yu
Raiden: 49.77% on Waluigi/Alan Wake
Ratchet: 32.73% on Altair/Shulk
Sly: 28.79% on Lugia/Francis York

Several of these characters had other games come out since we last saw them along with their PSA-appearance, yet their performances still seem to range from "meh" to "wow, they suck." Dante probably did the best relative to expectations, though some people still weren't happy with his showing...your perspective probably depends on what you think DmC meant to him.

Isaac Clarke, Kratos, Sackboy, and Drake were also in PSABR, but haven't had matches yet. Drake's next in line to prove himself, and he had UC3 since 2010 too. He could still beat Pac-Man...but from what we've seen so far, it's hard to count on PSA as the deciding factor here.
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#221 | NotTerrafire | Posted 8/3/2013 2:02:46 PM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
The Netherlands is the only other part of Europe that would contribute at least 10% of the vote. In fact, the Netherlands contributes about 10% of Europe's votes on average and they are the second biggest source of votes from Europe (the UK is number one).


Never occurred to me before, but this makes a lot of sense as most Dutch people have scarily good English and would be more than capable of reading and posting on these boards as if native speakers. Also I imagine because of this there's less of a market out there for Dutch language video game sites, whereas French, German, Spanish etc have decent sized sites of their own.
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#222 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/3/2013 2:04:58 PM | message detail
Just for fun I went back to which of the 14 countries that you can view detailed results from voted for in each match. Unsurprisingly they are unanimous in large blowouts so I won't count those.

Division 1

Raiden - 10
Waluigi - 4

Australia, Germany, Netherlands and Sweden went with Waluigi

Tharja - 11
Tiny Tina - 2
Juliet Starling - 1

United Kingdom and United States went with Tina and New Zealand went with Juliet. A bit surprising to see it lopsided given the match was so close, but the US holds a lot of power when they are not split between characters and Tina had a 4% lead there. UK has the third highest vote total and they gave Tina a 5% lead as well.

Draven - 10
Chie - 3
Jak - 1

Brazil, Mexico and Philippines went with Chie and the United States went with Jak. It's not news that Europe was the reason for Draven's win, but to see the US give Jak a 9% lead and still lose is quite impressive (almost reminds me of The Oregon Trail). It also seems Persona is loved in Asia and Latin America for some reason.

Mega Man X - 13
Jigglypuff - 1

United Kingdom went with Jigglypuff. I know Mega Man is not popular there, but to buck the trend that much when you get so many votes is quite amazing to see.
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#223 | raginbull911 | Posted 8/3/2013 2:06:45 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
anondum posted...
seems like lee is slowly creeping up


is this another one of those %gains=cuts guys
please tell me it's not


Just to elaborate for those who aren't mathematically inclined:

A change in percentage difference DOES NOT necessarily mean a change in vote number difference. The higher the total number of votes is, the more number difference is needed to maintain an equal percentage difference.

For the simplest example, we'll look at a basic 3:1 (75%-25%) ratio. In this example, we have a number differential of 2 votes and a percentage difference of a whopping 50%.

Assuming your base 4 votes:
Option A: 3 votes (75%)
Option B: 1 vote (25%)

If we maintain the same 2 vote differential (which for simplicity's sake I'll call additive consistency), the higher the total base votes, the lesser the percentage. A couple examples:

Base 14 votes
Option A: 8 votes (57.1%)
Option B: 6 votes (42.9%)

Base 100 votes
Option A: 51 votes (51%)
Option B: 49 votes (49%)

Base 1000 votes
Option A: 501 votes (50.1%)
Option B: 499 votes (49.9%)

To maintain a percentage difference, vote differential must maintain what I'll call multiplicative consistency. This is a basic principle taught to students learning fractions and reducing to lowest terms. For example, 3:1 = 6:2 = 9:3 = 12:4 etc. You maintain the same 75%-25% split, but voting difference needs to gain, in this case 2, 4, 6, 8 (I'm sure you can figure out how this pattern continues).

The question becomes what actually qualifies as gains? From a concrete perspective, we really care only about the number differential. Nobody in their right mind would say that a voting difference of 100-60 is closer than a voting difference of 10-5, but looking at strictly percentages you'd see 62.5%-37.5% compared to 66.6%-33.3% and think the first is closer.

Looking at percentages isn't entirely useless though. Percentages are great for trend analysis and predicting results -- this is how during political elections states/districts are able to be "called" with only a fraction of the total votes having been counted. We see this even in GameFAQs contests where some matches are effectively over after the first hour even though less than 20% of the total votes have even been cast. However, one needs to be sure they have a large enough sample size so they can have a reliable confidence interval before doing trend analysis using strictly percentages.

I've written too much already.. my math is rusty so I probably haven't used the right terms. Anyone on here who's a better mathematician than I, please feel free to correct any errors I've made in this explanation.

TL;DR -- Declaring gains based on percentage increase is fallacious thinking because of additive vs multiplicative growth.
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#224 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/3/2013 2:15:52 PM | message detail
Division 2

Barret - 11
Professor Layton - 3

France, Mexico and the Netherlands went with Layton. Barret may have easily won, but that was more of a product of Canada, UK and US.

(Phoenix won in all 14 countries despite being relatively close to Marth)

Sub-Zero - 8
Garrus - 6

Finland, France, Germany, New Zealand, Sweden and the United Kingdom went with Garrus. Garrus got a lot of support in Europe taking 5/7 major countries, but Italy and the Netherlands gave Sub-Zero over 50% support to help cancel that out.
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#225 | tennisboy213 | Posted 8/3/2013 2:38:59 PM | message detail
This is the lowest the lead's been in an hour and a half.
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#226 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 8/3/2013 2:43:40 PM | message detail
Looks like there have been quite a few matches where the lead is developed purely within the first 2-3 hours and then the match stagnates from there.
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#227 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/3/2013 2:45:44 PM | message detail
Division 3

Morrigan - 10
Miles Edgeworth - 3
Agent 47 - 1

Germany, the Netherlands and Sweden went with Edgeworth while the United Kingdom went with Agent 47. I guess Darkstalkers/Marvel vs. Capcom is not very popular in Europe with on France giving her a large win.

Ness - 6
Locke - 8

Brazil, Finland, France, Germany, Italy, New Zealand, Philippines and Sweden went with Locke. Despite getting the majority of the 14 main countries Locke loses the match. Of course trying to win without the support of at least one of Canada/UK/US is very hard to do, especially when the all comfortably supported Ness.

Elizabeth - 8
Poison - 5
Thrall - 1

Brazil, Finland, France, Italy and Mexico supported Poison and Sweden went with Thrall. Looks like BioShock is not as popular in Europe and from looking at a few matches it seems Latin America really likes fighting (or beat 'em up) games

Kirby - 7
Terra - 7

Brazil, Finland, France, Germany, Italy, Philippines and Sweden chose Terra. Like with Ness/Locke Terra gets a lot of support from Europe and of course Asia. Despite it being even losing Canada/UK/US (plus winning other larger countries such as Netherlands and Australia) means you are going to lose overall.

Crash - 11
Wheatley - 3

Canada, Germany and United States picked Wheatley. Despite winning 2 out of the 3 big countries the match was quite even there (1% in Canada, 0.2% in the US) and winning in almost every other major country gave Crash the easy win.
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#228 | WhiteLens | Posted 8/3/2013 2:50:58 PM | message detail
Heh, I like how my alt went up 10 spots, from 34 to 24, on the Expert Leaderboard despite getting a -4 in last match.

But it won't last since I have Meat Boy in 2nd and Lee in 3rd on that account.
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#229 | Jakyl25 | Posted 8/3/2013 2:53:44 PM | message detail
Yeah I only fell from 21 to 25 on the Expert Leaderboard even with a -6. <_<

If I had just banked I'd be Top Ten! D'oh!

+6 today though, assuming Lee can't chase G&W down at night.
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#230 | creativename | Posted 8/3/2013 3:00:20 PM | message detail
Interesting stuff there charmander, thanks.

LMS needs to take notes. Rather than spouting gibberish about mind-numbingly moronic and irrelevant lists that have nothing to do with anything, this is how you post about something worthwhile. If you're actually going to be on here obsessing over some list, have it be a gamefaqs related information like char just worked out.
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#231 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/3/2013 3:03:07 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Pac > Ness also sticks out heavily in my mind. Obviously Ness was getting Nintendo SFFed, but Pac gets heavy Nintendo SFF too, and he still won that rather easily.


Eh, I don't know if I'd say Pac-Man gets Nintendo SFF'd as much as he gets "Icon SFF'd." As much as people may not want to believe this, but Mewtwo is not an icon! Like, I'd expect Sonic to crush Pac-Man if they ever met. We've already seen Mega Man is capable of it.
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#232 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/3/2013 3:10:17 PM | message detail
Division 4

Alucard - 8
Captain Falcon - 5
Rydia - 1

Australia, Canada, the Netherlands, the United Kingdom and the United States all chose Falcon and New Zealand picked Rydia. This is quite amazing the 3 biggest countries plus the Netherlands and Australia which are quite large themselves all went with the loser and to make things even more confusing they were not split in the matter, even the US had Falcon with a 2% lead. Looking around at the map you can generally see that if Falcon did not do well he did terribly, finishing in last place in 6 of the major countries.

Ike - 6
Proto Man - 4
Dr. Robotnik - 4

Brazil, Mexico, Philippines and the United States went with Proto Man and France, New Zealand, Sweden and the United Kingdom took Dr. Robotnik. The 3 major countries went with 3 different characters. While the Americas minus Canada and Asia went with Proto Man it was not enough to beat out Ike's support in Canada, Australia and half of Europe, but what really killed Proto Man was his lack of support in Europe overall, especially in the UK. Even with Robotnik winning most of those countries had Ike in second which became enough to stall Proto Man from coming back.

Epona - 13
Niko Bellic - 1

The Philippines took Niko. Zelda is quite hated (with Metroid in first) in the Philippines so even though Epona crushed the poll Niko was able to take the narrow victory.

Altair - 10
Ratchet - 2
Shulk - 2

Finland and New Zealand chose Ratchet and France and Germany picked Shulk. Unsurprisingly Shulk does better in Europe, maybe if you released the game normally here Xenoblade might be stronger.

Kefka - 8
Zack - 5
Ryu Hayabusa - 1

Australia, the Netherlands, New Zealand, the Philippines and the United Kingdom went with Zack and Mexico took Hayabusa. I like to imagine anywhere where Zack won over Kefka Dissidia did not do very well, especially in the UK.
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#233 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/3/2013 3:10:24 PM | message detail
creativename posted...
Interesting stuff there charmander, thanks.

LMS needs to take notes. Rather than spouting gibberish about mind-numbingly moronic and irrelevant lists that have nothing to do with anything, this is how you post about something worthwhile. If you're actually going to be on here obsessing over some list, have it be a gamefaqs related information like char just worked out.


LMS not posting anymore would be the much better option.
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#234 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/3/2013 3:26:23 PM | message detail
X losing in the UK is always funny
I must find that match Megaman actually lost to someone weaker than Jigglypuff in UK in one of the previous contests
#235 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/3/2013 3:27:00 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Pac > Ness also sticks out heavily in my mind. Obviously Ness was getting Nintendo SFFed, but Pac gets heavy Nintendo SFF too, and he still won that rather easily.


Eh, I don't know if I'd say Pac-Man gets Nintendo SFF'd as much as he gets "Icon SFF'd." As much as people may not want to believe this, but Mewtwo is not an icon! Like, I'd expect Sonic to crush Pac-Man if they ever met. We've already seen Mega Man is capable of it.


...is Yoshi really an icon? It's certainly very dubious if Ness can win that match at any rate, and I'd take him over Drake here.
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#236 | Nanis23 | Posted 8/3/2013 3:30:01 PM | message detail
Is there really a icon SFF...?
Seriously now,this is starting to sound like a joke (hurr swords SFF made Zack>Ryu)
#237 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/3/2013 3:30:36 PM | message detail
The other divisions will be done when they are fully completed.

Division 5

Squirtle - 12
Ramza - 2

France and the Philippines went with Ramza. Philippines always loves Square and hates Nintendo (though Pokemon is a bit of a exception relatively) so it makes some sense, France does not.

Zidane - 13
Ridley - 1

Mexico took Ridley. I thought it would be closer given the match was close-ish. Also for fun Zidane broke 90% in the Philippines and SBD failed to break 1%.

Shadow the Hedgehog - 12
Yu Narukami - 2

Germany and the Philippines picked Yu. Germany was a bit random and I thought Brazil would've gone with Yu given Chie won her match so easily, it was closer than the actual result though.

Gordon Freeman - 13
Simon Belmont - 1

Mexico was the lone supporter for Simon. Looks like Latin America likes Castlevania (Freeman only won in Brazil by 3%)
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#238 | creativename | Posted 8/3/2013 3:30:46 PM | message detail
UltimaterializerX posted...
creativename posted...
Interesting stuff there charmander, thanks.

LMS needs to take notes. Rather than spouting gibberish about mind-numbingly moronic and irrelevant lists that have nothing to do with anything, this is how you post about something worthwhile. If you're actually going to be on here obsessing over some list, have it be a gamefaqs related information like char just worked out.


LMS not posting anymore would be the much better option.

Well I tend to skip over his posts anyway, especially his wall o' text posts. But people respond to him too often, sadly. He baits people by posting nonsense that people feel the need to correct, or point out how ignorant and silly it is. By now you'd think people would know better than to bother.

Karma Hunter posted...
...is Yoshi really an icon? It's certainly very dubious if Ness can win that match at any rate, and I'd take him over Drake here.

I'd qualify Yoshi as somewhat iconic.

Also with Pac-Man/Yoshi there would be "eating things SFF" >_>
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#239 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/3/2013 3:31:14 PM | message detail
I'd argue that the big four Mario characters are iconic, and that includes Yoshi. Dude became a mainstay of the Mario series despite literally being nothing more than an Epona in Super Mario World.

I'd honestly say Yoshi rivals Pac-Man for recognizability and likability, which allowed him to rock him pretty hard. What percentage of the site would you say hasn't played Mario World?
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#240 | creativename | Posted 8/3/2013 3:33:27 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
Also for fun Zidane broke 90% in the Philippines and SBD failed to break 1%.

Wow. To actually be under 1% means the country had over 100 votes...to fail get 1% in a sample of over 100 votes is quite the feat.
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#241 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/3/2013 3:33:45 PM | message detail
Is there really a icon SFF...?
Seriously now,this is starting to sound like a joke (hurr swords SFF made Zack>Ryu)


Probably not, but something happened to Pac-Man when he went up against Luigi, Yoshi and Mario I would bet the same thing happens if goes up against Sonic or Mega Man.

Could be just general Nintendo SFF though.
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#242 | SonicRaptor | Posted 8/3/2013 3:34:56 PM | message detail
I was actually worried about my upset pick of Game & Watch when this contest began, then after Clementine bombed against Spyro I felt better. I guess it turned out TV popularity doesn't translate to gaming popularity.
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#243 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/3/2013 3:35:50 PM | message detail
Actually, now that I think about it, I'd be kind of interested to see how DK/Pac-Man would go.

But yeah, I wouldn't expect just any Nintendo character to SFF Pac-Man. I wouldn't predict Ganondorf or Marth to SFF Pac-Man, for instance.
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#244 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/3/2013 3:37:00 PM | message detail
I was actually worried about my upset pick of Game & Watch when this contest began, then after Clementine bombed against Spyro I felt better. I guess it turned out TV popularity doesn't translate to gaming popularity.

Just because you like the show doesn't mean you played the game, had the option been Lee Everett (The Walking Dead) he may be winning now.
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#245 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/3/2013 3:37:23 PM | message detail
creativename posted...
Wow. To actually be under 1% means the country had over 100 votes...to fail get 1% in a sample of over 100 votes is quite the feat.


143 votes, based on those percentages. I actually do have a spreadsheet that makes it easier on me to figure out how many votes each country has, based on their percentages. Calculating the total votes from a country works best when there are 3 or more options, because it's more difficult when you have just 2 options.
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#246 | SonicRaptor | Posted 8/3/2013 3:38:51 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
I was actually worried about my upset pick of Game & Watch when this contest began, then after Clementine bombed against Spyro I felt better. I guess it turned out TV popularity doesn't translate to gaming popularity.

Just because you like the show doesn't mean you played the game, had the option been Lee Everett (The Walking Dead) he may be winning now.


Hey, it wasn't my argument.
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#247 | Safer_777 | Posted 8/3/2013 3:41:22 PM | message detail
Nostalgiafaqs.Anyway I want to see the results of this match.I mean 2 of the 3 lowest prediction matches were the 2 previous.I wonder will this break the record?
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#248 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/3/2013 3:43:01 PM | message detail
Oh right, trend chart from the night match:

Time | Groose | Lu Bu | Yoshi | Votes
0:05 | 51.47% | 21.57% | 26.96% | 204
1:00 | 30.49% | 32.97% | 36.54% | 4674
2:00 | 24.97% | 34.77% | 40.26% | 2643
3:00 | 25.14% | 33.76% | 41.10% | 2112
4:00 | 20.16% | 33.17% | 46.67% | 1637
5:00 | 22.91% | 30.69% | 46.40% | 1375
6:00 | 21.51% | 30.54% | 47.95% | 1195
7:00 | 20.12% | 34.56% | 45.33% | 1198
8:00 | 22.31% | 30.04% | 47.65% | 1255
9:00 | 22.69% | 34.00% | 43.31% | 1547
10:00 | 23.88% | 31.31% | 44.81% | 1763
11:00 | 24.26% | 31.54% | 44.20% | 1785
12:00 | 24.04% | 31.50% | 44.46% | 1822

This is definitely my favorite trend chart of the contest so far. This thing is beautiful. Just look at it. The best trend charts speak for themselves.

X-Stats:

Yoshimitsu – 50.00%
Lu Bu – 43.34%
Groose – 36.67%

Yoshimitsu's prediction percentage was 39.13%
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#249 | Denzokuken | Posted 8/3/2013 3:59:44 PM | message detail
Night vote always has the best taste.
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#250 | NotTerrafire | Posted 8/3/2013 4:02:13 PM | message detail
That geographic analysis is excellent stuff charmander. It's weird; I always congratulate myself on my excellent taste in comparison to the site's average. Then I realise I'm pretty much falling exactly in line with the UK average. You wouldn't think something like that would matter when 75%+ of the gaming coverage I see is US-based, and I rarely play video games when I meet up with friends.
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