Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1088

#451 | GoldSlime35 | Posted 8/2/2013 3:49:44 PM | message detail
Haste_2 posted...
The only reason I picked Booker was because of Big Daddy's past good performance. But Bioshock in general has been awful this year and I never forecasted that. After seeing how the others did, Gilgamesh dominating like this is no surprise.


Exactly what I did. Worked for Elizabeth but not here. Should have stuck with the FF character.

I'm in 13th on the leaderboard, I wonder if I'll survive again like I did for my first 2 incorrect matches.
#452 | ffmasterjose | Posted 8/2/2013 3:51:24 PM | message detail
BK_Sheikah00 posted...
So... Pac-man > Drake?


I've always had Pac-Man > Drake

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#453 | scaryice | Posted 8/2/2013 4:09:20 PM | message detail | (edited)
BK_Sheikah00 posted...
So... Pac-man > Drake?


No chance. Drake should be noticeably stronger than last time, and should be one of the strongest characters of his generation along with Shepard, Glados, and Lightning. He's not comparable to a brand new character like Booker who just had his first game.
#454 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/2/2013 4:10:45 PM | message detail
scaryice posted...
BK_Sheikah00 posted...
So... Pac-man > Drake?


No chance. Drake should be noticeably stronger than last time, and should be one of the strongest characters of his generation along with Shepard, Glados, and Lightning. He's not comparable to a brand new character like Booker who just had his first game.


Why should he be stronger? Characters are as strong as their best game, and nobody worth listening to thinks UC3 sold better, was better, or had a better reception than Uncharted 2.
#455 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 8/2/2013 4:19:45 PM | message detail
Drake lost to The Boss. Pac Man beat Ocelot. Characters like Drake are bombing all over the place. I don't think Pac-man will have much trouble winning. I'm going with Pac-Man in the Expert Challenge and wish I had him in my bracket. I don't really know why I chose Drake in my bracket. The notes I wrote for myself from back then have Pac-man favoured by a bit but I checked over my bracket a bunch of times so it can't be a misclick either. I have some recovery upset picks that I'm okay with soon afterwards that I can recover a bit with but having a username that starts with "T" hurts a lot in terms of leaderboard presence.
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#456 | FFDragon | Posted 8/2/2013 4:22:04 PM | message detail
UC1 - Drake loses to CATS
UC2 - Drake loses to Boss
UC3 - Drake loses to Pac-Man

Logical progression.
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#457 | Ringworm | Posted 8/2/2013 4:27:18 PM | message detail
Go my Gilgamesh. May just make the leaderboard yet. Not at all confident in Yoshimitsu, so probably my last shot. Stupid alphabet might ruin that though.
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#458 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/2/2013 4:27:22 PM | message detail
I don't feel 100% on Drake post-UC3 as I don't have much of a read on him (like the majority of GameFAQs) and I'd feel a lot more comfortable in a 1v1... but in this particular three-way, I feel very confident in Pac.
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#459 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/2/2013 4:31:40 PM | message detail
Nathan Drake should win, but I just can't bring myself to put him over Pac-Man.
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#460 | SonicRaptor | Posted 8/2/2013 4:36:04 PM | message detail
raginbull911 posted...
In my absence from these contests for the last 4-5 years, I've forgotten the golden rule of "in a battle of fodder, take the Final Fantasy/Pokemon character"


Isn't this the truth: Pokemon alone have broken many a bracket.
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#461 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/2/2013 4:43:12 PM | message detail
For example in 2010 Nathan Drake was expected to get 30.95% against Luigi while in 2008 Pac-Man got 37.50% against Mewtwo with Ness in the poll. Using the 2010 Ganondorf/Mewtwo match that puts Pac-Man at 31.01% against Ganondorf. Even without Uncharted 3 Nathan winning would be possible depending on how you think Luigi/Ganondorf goes.
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#462 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/2/2013 4:47:33 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
For example in 2010 Nathan Drake was expected to get 30.95% against Luigi while in 2008 Pac-Man got 37.50% against Mewtwo with Ness in the poll. Using the 2010 Ganondorf/Mewtwo match that puts Pac-Man at 31.01% against Ganondorf. Even without Uncharted 3 Nathan winning would be possible depending on how you think Luigi/Ganondorf goes.


I hate to give him any credit, but I will - Ganondorf is underrated in the stats. He probably beats Luigi.

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#463 | Safer_777 | Posted 8/2/2013 4:48:01 PM | message detail
Didn't you noticed that all old characters doing good while the new characters suck?Pac Man wins for sure.
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#464 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/2/2013 4:48:15 PM | message detail
Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

You're saying Pac Man is equal to Drake

Using results where a highly nostalgic, popular entrant is in the house

When Pac-Man folds to nostalgia

Yyyyyyeah, I don't think I gotta add anything here. Feeling real good about Wakka-man now.
#465 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/2/2013 4:50:59 PM | message detail
Pac-Man held up quite well against Mewtwo, especially when people were expecting him to lose to Ness in that match.

At the very least any "nostalgic SFF," if it existed in that match would be countered with LFF from Ness.
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#466 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 8/2/2013 5:29:17 PM | message detail
Ugh I'm really tempted to no-pick on Pac-Man/Drake (except for last place)... or maybe Drake/Drake/Steve...
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#467 | GloryChaos | Posted 8/2/2013 6:18:02 PM | message detail
After how badly most of the western humans have sucked, I don't have any faith in them anymore. Drake's probably going to bomb too.
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#468 | AsurasKordoth | Posted 8/2/2013 6:30:59 PM | message detail
Oh didn't realize I made the leaderboard. Picked Gilgamesh as well. Woooo
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#469 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 8/2/2013 6:33:57 PM | message detail
AsurasKordoth posted...
Oh didn't realize I made the leaderboard. Picked Gilgamesh as well. Woooo


Is anybody keeping track of all the leaderboards this year? I want to know how I ended up on there, I thought I was doing crap.
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#470 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 8/2/2013 6:34:41 PM | message detail
As in, I knew I wasn't TERRIBLE but I didn't think I'd taken any recent upsets...
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#471 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/2/2013 6:39:35 PM | message detail | (edited)
AlecTrevelyan006 posted...
As in, I knew I wasn't TERRIBLE but I didn't think I'd taken any recent upsets...


Before today, the Guru cookie cutter bracket had a high enough score to make the leaderboard.

Edit: And the cookie is *still* good enough to stay on the leaderboard after today, assuming you give it an easy name to get on the leaderboard (i.e. something that starts with A).
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#472 | ZFS | Posted 8/2/2013 6:43:06 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Why should he be stronger? Characters are as strong as their best game, and nobody worth listening to thinks UC3 sold better, was better, or had a better reception than Uncharted 2.


Uh, U3 did sell better than U2. It also had a much larger marketing campaign, had the largest beta of any game on the PS3, and was incredibly well-received, from critics and fans. It's the very definition of a game that should boost a character's popularity.
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#473 | jacko_vdz | Posted 8/2/2013 6:46:56 PM | message detail
Man sucks to see Booker losing so handily. I swear every match I've got wrong so far was one of my personal favourites. Reyn/Wheatley/N and now Booker. I guess Kefka too, but I went with Zack so happy to lose that one.

This must be how people who hate Pokemon feel when their favourite characters get stomped by them!
#474 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/2/2013 6:47:04 PM | message detail
Match LI: (8) Groose vs. (11) Lu Bu vs. (20) Yoshimitsu

Previous Contest

Groose – N/A
N/A

Lu Bu – N/A
N/A

Yoshimitsu – N/A
N/A

Analysis

Another match with three new characters and all of them expected to be weak. I feel Groose takes this match mostly because he is from Zelda. Sure Skyward Sword is not expected to be as strong as the other Zelda games and anyone outside the trio of Link/Ganondorf/Zelda is not very strong, but you do not need much strength to win here. Groose is a big part of the story and while I would not compare him with Midna in terms of strength people do not hate him so he is no Tingle either.

I use to have relatively high expectations for Yoshimitsu as he is a mainstay in two fighting games and while fighting characters outside of Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat are known to be weak I thought he would have some strength. After winning a spot in the Nomination Rally Tournament for the 2010 contest he was forced to compete in the vote-ins where he had a terrible performance, but to his defence there were a bunch of fighting characters in the poll. Still after watching Nightmare flop earlier this contest meaning Soul Calibur is likely forgotten now and Tekken was never that big I do not expect much out of him.

Maybe I am wrong, but I always saw Dynasty Warriors as being rather niche and not as popular as the other fighting series. While there are some fans of the series on the board I do not see Lu Bu finishing over someone who is a bit of a fan favourite in two fighting series that are more popular than Dynasty Warriors.

Groose can lose the match, the only thing I am relatively confident in is Yoshimitsu finishing over Lu Bu, but just by looking around some people do seem to be going for that upset. Skyward Sword may not be the most popular Zelda game, but it is a Zelda game which I hope will be enough in this situation.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Groose > Yoshimitsu and Lu Bu

charmander6000’s Prediction: Groose – 42.47%, Yoshimitsu – 32.36%, Lu Bu – 25.17%
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#475 | lightsout06 | Posted 8/2/2013 7:26:08 PM | message detail
Who is ready for LU BU to destroy the battlefield?
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#476 | raginbull911 | Posted 8/2/2013 7:27:16 PM | message detail
lightsout06 posted...
Who is ready for LU BU to destroy the battlefield?


Crickets..
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#477 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 8/2/2013 7:41:38 PM | message detail
I am ready for Lu Bu to get first place.
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#478 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 8/2/2013 8:06:30 PM | message detail
So what are the chances that when the final X-Stats are calculated, Lu Bu ends up looking weaker than Chester? I can't help thinking that Yoshimitsu might have been the worst possible opponent for his X-stat value--DW is essentially a less-mainstream Soul Calibur with actual historical figures instead of just a historical time period, and Yoshimitsu's probably not going to have a great X-stat value himself so if Lu Bu gets destroyed by SFF...and seriously, there are literally only two characters in this entire ninepack that are worth much and they ended up in the same R1 match. If Sora can put up about 70% in R2, which with this competition is actually possible, Lu Bu could end up below Chester in the X-Stats. I think. Non-1v1 X-stats aren't really my strong suit.
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#479 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/2/2013 8:09:32 PM | message detail
I'm expecting Lu Bu to get severely "last place factor'd" here and be left in the dust. If no one recognizes you and you bring nothing else to the match (namely an appealing picture), it's very hard not to be left in the dust. We saw it happen with Reyn, and he was up against a potentially weaker duo and actually HAD a tiny intangible in his favor.
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#480 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 8/2/2013 8:11:18 PM | message detail
TsunamiXXVIII posted...
DW is essentially a less-mainstream Soul Calibur


But it's not even the same genre
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#481 | tgs2 | Posted 8/2/2013 8:15:42 PM | message detail
Lu Bu could get a lot of joke votes this match, not enough to do anything, but he won't look Caim bad.
#482 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 8/2/2013 8:18:16 PM | message detail
Reminder that the Zelda fanbase saved us from Brawl.

The Groose is loose.
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#483 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 8/2/2013 8:18:21 PM | message detail
ZFS posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Why should he be stronger? Characters are as strong as their best game, and nobody worth listening to thinks UC3 sold better, was better, or had a better reception than Uncharted 2.


Uh, U3 did sell better than U2. It also had a much larger marketing campaign, had the largest beta of any game on the PS3, and was incredibly well-received, from critics and fans. It's the very definition of a game that should boost a character's popularity.


News to me, because literally everywhere I looked (something like eight different boards), everybody agreed that UC2 was the better game even though UC3 had improvements.
#484 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 8/2/2013 8:18:59 PM | message detail
Yoshi is winning this.

You can take it to the bank.
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#485 | LeonhartFone | Posted 8/2/2013 8:19:22 PM | message detail
I still believe in Luigi > Ganondorf

Luigi strongest non-NN Nintendo character yessir

Yeah that's right that includes the Zard and the Glitch
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#486 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 8/2/2013 8:19:56 PM | message detail
LeonhartFone posted...
I still believe in Luigi > Ganondorf

Luigi strongest non-NN Nintendo character yessir

Yeah that's right that includes the Zard and the Glitch


I believe in Luigi!

...that's probably why I don't do well in contests any more.
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#487 | LeonhartFone | Posted 8/2/2013 8:20:39 PM | message detail
"UC2 is a better game" and "UC3 is a good game" are not mutually exclusive statements.
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#488 | Xuxon | Posted 8/2/2013 8:21:16 PM | message detail
From: LeonhartFone | Posted: 8/2/2013 11:19:22 PM | #485
I still believe in Luigi > Ganondorf

Luigi strongest non-NN Nintendo character yessir

Yeah that's right that includes the Zard and the Glitch

X
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#489 | LeonhartFone | Posted 8/2/2013 8:21:50 PM | message detail
X isn't a Nintendo character!
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#490 | LeonhartFone | Posted 8/2/2013 8:22:28 PM | message detail
But I'll still take Luigi over him anyway because why not
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#491 | ZFS | Posted 8/2/2013 8:22:34 PM | message detail
I wasn't taking issue with U2 being a better game, just that U3 didn't matter or didn't sell as well. It sold over 6 million copies and increased awareness for Uncharted and Drake dramatically. He was in Subway commercials and everything. More than a third of the entire series sales come from U3. Just saying! Doesn't necessarily mean Drake wins, but Uncharted 3 will definitely have mattered for him.
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#492 | Xuxon | Posted 8/2/2013 8:22:36 PM | message detail
oh, i somehow missed that part

it would be weird if you claimed Luigi > Squall
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#493 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 8/2/2013 8:23:08 PM | message detail
LeonhartFone posted...
But I'll still take Luigi over him anyway because why not


Well, for me the "why not" would be because X would win.
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#494 | LeonhartFone | Posted 8/2/2013 8:23:48 PM | message detail
Oh I take Squall over everyone but the top six at this point!
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#495 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 8/2/2013 8:24:24 PM | message detail
LeonhartFone posted...
Oh I take Squall over everyone but the top six at this point!


Let's get Dark Squall in the bracket, crush the Noble Nine.
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#496 | LeonhartFone | Posted 8/2/2013 8:24:28 PM | message detail
MMX overrated Ryu comin' for him
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#497 | Dr_Coffee | Posted 8/2/2013 8:25:35 PM | message detail
Yoshimitsu gonna slaughterNAMU NAMU NAMU
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#498 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 8/2/2013 8:27:03 PM | message detail
BK_Sheikah00 posted...
Reminder that the Zelda fanbase saved us from Brawl.


someone call LMS
#499 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/2/2013 8:27:31 PM | message detail
Play EarthBound.
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#500 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 8/2/2013 8:27:35 PM | message detail
The Groose is loose!
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