Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1087

#101 | KommunistKoala | Posted 8/1/2013 8:49:22 AM | message detail
#102 | eaglesarebeasts | Posted 8/1/2013 8:50:27 AM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
Was Big Daddy relevant at all to Bioshock Infinite? I would assume not considering the scenery change, and Big Daddy is really only a character that would be popular when relevant to his series.


The new DLC for Infinite is in Rapture. And there is a scene at the end of the game that takes place in Rapture. But no Big Daddy
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#103 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/1/2013 8:50:39 AM | message detail
Achromatic posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
My instinct is that Pika hurts Lloyd more and I'm inclined to keep siding with it. Big Daddy was just... very, very overrated.


Not overrated, he declined.

Overrated implies he somehow beat Ness randomly.


...his x-stat value is MASSIVELY inflated. There's no way he was ever that strong, and the same goes for Ness.
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#104 | HaRRicH | Posted 8/1/2013 8:50:57 AM | message detail
How over-rated do you have to be to fall like this despite Bioshock Infinite probably being GotY so far and appearing in Playstation All-Stars last year? This is just jaw-dropping (as is my jaw literally dropped).
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#105 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/1/2013 8:50:57 AM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
Was Big Daddy relevant at all to Bioshock Infinite? I would assume not considering the scenery change, and Big Daddy is really only a character that would be popular when relevant to his series.


I heard that in one of Infinite's first trailers, a Big Daddy figurine was crushed at the beginning to mark the change in setting.

Alternatively, maybe people just don't want to vote for a random enemy character, although considering Slime's performance that doesn't really make sense. Big Daddy is pretty much the Slime of BioShock.

Probably just a decline after BioShock 2 got so much retroactive backlash? Well...YOU'RE ON WATCH, LIGHTNING AND SAMUS!
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#106 | xp1337 | Posted 8/1/2013 8:51:02 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
My instinct is that Pika hurts Lloyd more and I'm inclined to keep siding with it. Big Daddy was just... very, very overrated.

Yeah, part of what I used to quash any thoughts of "Can Lloyd actually pull this off?" was "Pikachu should hurt Lloyd more than Big Daddy so I better be really sure I want to do this..."

and i wasn't.
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#107 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 8/1/2013 8:51:20 AM | message detail
I had forgotten how much I liked the ToS soundtrack, and then I get to switch to Magus's theme in the next few minutes.
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#108 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 8/1/2013 8:51:56 AM | message detail
No Big Daddy relevance in Bioshock Infinite.

A couple of things, but nothing proper. Hence the big decline. Also Tifa was mad overrated that year. I would take Ness over Big Daddy now though.
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#109 | KommunistKoala | Posted 8/1/2013 8:52:39 AM | message detail
eaglesarebeasts posted...
KamikazePotato posted...
Was Big Daddy relevant at all to Bioshock Infinite? I would assume not considering the scenery change, and Big Daddy is really only a character that would be popular when relevant to his series.


The new DLC for Infinite is in Rapture. And there is a scene at the end of the game that takes place in Rapture. But no Big Daddy


There actually was a Big Daddy walking around if you look out the window, he's walking around with a little sister as she harvests a corpse, if I'm not mistaken.
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#110 | nintendogirl2 | Posted 8/1/2013 8:52:54 AM | message detail
One day I'll brag that I had Lloyd > Big Daddy but for now it just makes me sad.
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#111 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/1/2013 8:53:18 AM | message detail
Tifa/Big Daddy was right after Sephiroth/Missingno

Maybe there was a lot of FFVII anti-votes
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#112 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/1/2013 8:53:21 AM | message detail
So we've seen Ryu Hayabusa crap the bed after his last major game was poorly-received, and Big Daddy is doing the same after his last major game experienced retroactive backlash.

What's left to complete the circle? Samus losing to Auron, Tifa, or even Master Chief? Lightning losing to an LFF'd Donkey Kong? Leon losing to Gordon? Oh, the possibilities.
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#113 | Achromatic | Posted 8/1/2013 8:54:13 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Achromatic posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
My instinct is that Pika hurts Lloyd more and I'm inclined to keep siding with it. Big Daddy was just... very, very overrated.


Not overrated, he declined.

Overrated implies he somehow beat Ness randomly.


...his x-stat value is MASSIVELY inflated. There's no way he was ever that strong, and the same goes for Ness.


I am sorry you feel that way. But he probably was. It happens, KH. Voters aren't static.
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#114 | xp1337 | Posted 8/1/2013 8:54:14 AM | message detail
I switched to Magus, but this match... this match. I will never be happy whoever I pick, but I just can't shake the feeling that Magus should win this. I'm on a two-in-a-row bad choice streak though so I'm bracing for tragedy.

Kind of interested in what the expert leaderboard does. Full pick? Bank? Partial bank because Jade is free points? Something like Magus/Magus/Jade to play for 0 or +2?
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#115 | ctesjbuvf | Posted 8/1/2013 8:54:23 AM | message detail
No, LMS, none of that will happen.
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#116 | Achromatic | Posted 8/1/2013 8:55:26 AM | message detail
Okay guys here comes the epic 46 final update swing are you ready.
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#117 | ctesjbuvf | Posted 8/1/2013 8:55:29 AM | message detail
That's nice and all Big Daddy, but it's a bit too late now.
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#118 | ZeldaTPLink | Posted 8/1/2013 8:55:48 AM | message detail
Big Daddy cutting like a beast again, but unfortunately for him, time is up.

45 votes to cut in 5 minutes.
#119 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/1/2013 8:55:59 AM | message detail
It could also be a case of...what some of us expected to happen to Altair, now that the BioShock series has (largely?) left Rapture.

So Altair still has the same strength level as last contest in spite of being supplanted in his series hierarchy, while Big Daddy dropped a lot...although BioShock 2 backlash probably helps. And apparently Kerrigan bombed thanks to Heart of the Swarm.

Samus and Lightning are so dead now.
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#120 | xp1337 | Posted 8/1/2013 8:56:04 AM | message detail
Achromatic posted...
Okay guys here comes the epic 46 final update swing are you ready.

i am ready
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#121 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/1/2013 8:56:24 AM | message detail
Honestly, I'm surprised Big Daddy was ever that popular. I know I know, mascot and all, but the Bioshock series has some really good characters and for some reason we latched onto the one essentially characterless thing that I've never seen anyone really care about. Andrew Ryan should be in these things!...He'd got annihilated, but still!
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#122 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 8/1/2013 8:56:25 AM | message detail
It's too bad Jill isn't in this match. 27 votes would be so prophetic.
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#123 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/1/2013 8:56:25 AM | message detail
Time for a 50 vote gain by Big Daddy
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#124 | Karma Hunter | Posted 8/1/2013 8:56:44 AM | message detail
Achromatic posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Achromatic posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
My instinct is that Pika hurts Lloyd more and I'm inclined to keep siding with it. Big Daddy was just... very, very overrated.


Not overrated, he declined.

Overrated implies he somehow beat Ness randomly.


...his x-stat value is MASSIVELY inflated. There's no way he was ever that strong, and the same goes for Ness.


I am sorry you feel that way. But he probably was. It happens, KH. Voters aren't static.


I know that, but this is just way too much. This is like arguing Magus was ever worth 35% on Link - everyone in his pack was overrated, and it showed. Same thing with Big Daddy, Ness is just not strong enough to beat the people he's projected to in the last contest.

Pikachu is literally scoring about what Link would on Big Daddy. This kind of thing never happens, Link is so far ahead of the rest of the field that even with variance and crazy performances it never gets that out of hand. For a midcard like Pika to be matching the performance of the #1 contest character says it all to me. Overrating happens, too.
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#125 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/1/2013 8:57:02 AM | message detail
Big Daddy did lose to Balthier in 2008
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#126 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/1/2013 8:57:25 AM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
I switched to Magus, but this match... this match. I will never be happy whoever I pick, but I just can't shake the feeling that Magus should win this. I'm on a two-in-a-row bad choice streak though so I'm bracing for tragedy.

Kind of interested in what the expert leaderboard does. Full pick? Bank? Partial bank because Jade is free points? Something like Magus/Magus/Jade to play for 0 or +2?


I'm 100% confident that Magus will win even though I picked Otacon in my bracket, though that's mostly because seeing a CT character against an MGS character made me think "clutch-fest", and Magus is very likely to have the stronger clutch.

I mean, is this board seriously going to save OTACON against MAGUS?
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#127 | Xuxon | Posted 8/1/2013 8:57:30 AM | message detail
Samus isn't losing, especially when Auron and Tifa will be in the match! Come on now...
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#128 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 8/1/2013 8:58:04 AM | message detail
Big Daddy probably overperformed on Tifa since it came straight after Seph/Missingno, and Seph/Tifa was written down as an overperformance as soon as it happened (unless you think Tifa >> Squall).
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#129 | tgs2 | Posted 8/1/2013 8:58:13 AM | message detail
It's weird that Captain Falcon of all people failed to stall a comeback while Ike and Lloyd have.

Alucard did it in a supposedly "bad" time period too which makes it look worse.
#130 | Achromatic | Posted 8/1/2013 8:58:28 AM | message detail
Magus was worth 35% on Link because he got 35% on Link, bro. The following contest he beat the ever living **** out of Luca in a way only strong characters can before losing to Crono. People lose strength sometimes. Like, you can't tell me he isn't worth 35% on Link when he actually got 35% on Link. Link is the measuring stick.

And this is so more decline than anything. Maybe a little bit overrated? Sure, fine, in the case of Big Daddy. But get that Magus crap out of my face.
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#131 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 8/1/2013 8:58:36 AM | message detail
LinkMarioSamus posted...
xp1337 posted...
I switched to Magus, but this match... this match. I will never be happy whoever I pick, but I just can't shake the feeling that Magus should win this. I'm on a two-in-a-row bad choice streak though so I'm bracing for tragedy.

Kind of interested in what the expert leaderboard does. Full pick? Bank? Partial bank because Jade is free points? Something like Magus/Magus/Jade to play for 0 or +2?


I'm 100% confident that Magus will win even though I picked Otacon in my bracket, though that's mostly because seeing a CT character against an MGS character made me think "clutch-fest", and Magus is very likely to have the stronger clutch.

I mean, is this board seriously going to save OTACON against MAGUS?


On the contrary, CT and MGS's clutches could almost come together. If CT's fanbase was smart, they would choke this one and let Otacon fold neutral in Round 2.
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#132 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/1/2013 8:58:45 AM | message detail
First time in a few days where I'll be catching the beginning of a match. MAGUS.
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#133 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/1/2013 8:59:09 AM | message detail
Yeah, anyone rooting for Crono should be rooting for Otacon.
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#134 | Denzokuken | Posted 8/1/2013 8:59:11 AM | message detail
Let's go. Otacon to wet his pants and hide in a locker straight from the off.
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#135 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/1/2013 8:59:58 AM | message detail
Oh and perhaps Zack bombing can be attributed to retroactive Crisis Core backlash.

Again, time to start calling for those ladies' heads against their sword-wielding and simian opponents.
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#136 | eaglesarebeasts | Posted 8/1/2013 9:00:06 AM | message detail
Oh right good call KommunistKoala. I think I remember that now.

But now its MAGUS TIME!
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#137 | raginbull911 | Posted 8/1/2013 9:00:14 AM | message detail
Vote Accepted


Magus
71.43%
5 Votes
Your Pick

Hal "Otacon" Emmerich
28.57%
2 Votes

Jade Curtiss
0%
0 Votes
Total Votes: 7
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#138 | ctesjbuvf | Posted 8/1/2013 9:00:17 AM | message detail
Magus
66.67%
8 Votes
Your Pick

Hal "Otacon" Emmerich
33.33%
4 Votes

Jade Curtiss
0%
0 Votes
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#139 | tennisboy213 (Topic Creator) | Posted 8/1/2013 9:00:17 AM | message detail
Vote Accepted


Magus
66.67%
10 Votes
Your Pick

Hal "Otacon" Emmerich
26.67%
4 Votes

Jade Curtiss
6.67%
1 Votes
Total Votes: 15
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#140 | hylianknight3 | Posted 8/1/2013 9:00:19 AM | message detail
Magus
66.67%
2 Votes
Your Pick

Hal "Otacon" Emmerich
33.33%
1 Votes

Jade Curtiss
0%
0 Votes
#141 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/1/2013 9:00:22 AM | message detail
Magus
75%
3 Votes
Your Pick

Hal "Otacon" Emmerich
25%
1 Votes

Jade Curtiss
0%
0 Votes
Total Votes: 4
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#142 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/1/2013 9:00:24 AM | message detail
The black wind howls


Magus
80%
4 Votes

Hal "Otacon" Emmerich
20%
1 Votes

Jade Curtiss
0%
0 Votes
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#143 | Denzokuken | Posted 8/1/2013 9:00:33 AM | message detail
Yeah.
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#144 | ZeldaTPLink | Posted 8/1/2013 9:00:33 AM | message detail
And Lloyd gained at the last update.

EPIC FAIL
#145 | ctesjbuvf | Posted 8/1/2013 9:00:34 AM | message detail
YES MAGUS! CRUSH THEM!
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#146 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 8/1/2013 9:00:54 AM | message detail
Magus with 60% in the board vote. LOL
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#147 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/1/2013 9:01:15 AM | message detail
Magus' early vote is always fun to watch
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#148 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 8/1/2013 9:01:42 AM | message detail
THE BLACK WIND HOWLS

AND ONE OF YOU WILL SNAP INTO A SLIM JIM
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#149 | Safer_777 | Posted 8/1/2013 9:01:45 AM | message detail
13th vote for Jade.Also according to Gurus Pikachu is the favorite to win over Crono?What?I thought Pikachu was a huge upset.
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#150 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/1/2013 9:02:00 AM | message detail
why does Jade have so much %
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