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Lolling Smurf? What is this, 2006? --- The Artist Commonly Known as The Hardcore Kid |
Kotetsu534 posted... France is doing work for Lloyd here, heh. France loves their coffee hot. --- Agent Triple Zero at your service! The artist formerly known as greatone10. |
Lloyd cut back --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 |
Pikachu Crono is not debateable because 1.If Magus is in there he will drag Crono down alot 2.If Magys is not there it means he lost to a super weak character and that means Crono is weaker as well Either way Pikachu wins |
I
don't think you get that Magus' strength is not tied directly to
Crono's. Crono was doing his usual noble nine thing while Magus lost to a
bag of sand. --- "When your enemies defy you, you must serve them steel and fire. When they go to their knees, however, you must help them back to their feet." |
Nanis23 posted... Pikachu Crono is not debateable because Magus has already lost to a super weak character. He lost to a literal bag of sand. If Otacon can actually beat him Pikachu is sunk. --- sig |
Yeah if Magus loses to Otacon it just means Magus is even more worthless than he already was. --- We are living our lives Abound with so much information |
I'm
getting the scary feeling that Crono might win even with Magus. That
maybe he hasn't fallen nearly as far as we've thought, simply because he
lost in Round 1 to an opponent that may be a lot stronger than we've
given credit for. It's pretty hard to justify Pikachu impressing when a Tales character is having a solid performance. Maybe Kratos A will end up impressing and there will be justification, but considering my bracket hinges on Pikachu going farther than he should, I'm more than wary now. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
Keep in mind going by the xstats Crono had his best xstat value ever in 2010 <_<. --- "When your enemies defy you, you must serve them steel and fire. When they go to their knees, however, you must help them back to their feet." |
Trying
to peg Crono down in 2010 is infuriating because there's no way at all
to do it. Using Missingno directly he's worth a solid 47% on Sephiroth -
going off a match he had in the day, no less! - but he's also worth a
pathetic 51% on Yoshi. --- sig |
And
in addition, Pokemon is overrated and we take their crazy rally
performances for granted when in actuality, Charizard got only 55% on
Kratos before his HGSS madness, Pikachu didn't really have any reliable
results in 2010 due to sprite round overperformance, and Missingno may
just be its own beast entirely as a joke/Pokemon hybrid. I'm starting to think Crono will do a lot better than most people are expecting, even with everyone here firmly on the Crono > Pikachu strength-wise train, and I wish I thought of that when I was still making my god damn bracket. e: And of course more reasons we assume Crono's falling is because of the CT shut-out in R1 of 2010, because CT wasn't as impressive in its last contest as it was in Square-dominating 2004, and because Magus is hilariously pathetic and deserving of our mockery. All of which still don't really tell us much about Crono himself (or Frog for that matter). --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
I have crono out of his division and charizard losing in round 2 to lightning. let's do it. --- "When your enemies defy you, you must serve them steel and fire. When they go to their knees, however, you must help them back to their feet." |
Hey man if you think Yoshi can go toe to toe with Crono and bring Sephiroth to 55% or so sure he didn't weaken --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 |
Something
to keep in mind is Yoshi rolled to Missingno with average day votals
for the round. Crono barely lost to Missingno with an extra 10,000
votes. %s don't always tell the whole story. --- "When your enemies defy you, you must serve them steel and fire. When they go to their knees, however, you must help them back to their feet." |
Except when a losing character is gaining percentage on a winning character, of course. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
Oh
Crono obviously smashes Yoshi. Yoshi's probably at the bottom of the
Luigi/Bowser/Yoshi trio these days and Squall embarrassed him repeatedly
in his last non-Missingno matches. I'd be scared to death of Crono going up against Squall, but he shouldn't have any trouble with a guy Squall blows away with 58% of the vote. --- sig |
I'd be scared for Squall in that situation. That isn't ending in less than a 60-40 and god help you if you think otherwise. note: sff obv. --- "When your enemies defy you, you must serve them steel and fire. When they go to their knees, however, you must help them back to their feet." |
Achromatic posted... I'd be scared for Squall in that situation. ...if Crono can 60/40 Squall Pikachu literally can't win, ever. SNAKE can't 60/40 Squall. Edit: ...on the note of SFF, CT being able to put a hurt on FF8/KH is highly dubious at best. And if he can, Cloud is ridiculously screwed against Snake. --- sig |
Doesn't mean they were all Pokemon votes. CT is known for dubious performances too. --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 |
Why yes, Cloud IS screwed against Snake. Thanks for noticing...! Also while it is true I don't believe all 10,000 weren't Pokemon, I'd wager a good 7-8k were. Pokemon did some...magical things that contest. Yeah, magical. --- "When your enemies defy you, you must serve them steel and fire. When they go to their knees, however, you must help them back to their feet." |
Also
man now I really hope Crono wins because he has really avoided most of
the newer Square stuff aside from Vincent (who, being from FF7, was a
beast to try to SFF previous to this year) --- "When your enemies defy you, you must serve them steel and fire. When they go to their knees, however, you must help them back to their feet." |
Crono
beating down Squall 60/40 would also have me pretty perplexed. Squall
held up like a champ and went 50/50 with Auron and Vincent, the latter
of which has outright defeated Crono in one of their engagements. Crono
beating down Vincent with 60% of the vote in any format looks out of the
realm of possibility, so why is he Squall's kryptonite? --- sig |
I don't know, this year's Vincent might not look so hot...! And yeah 60-40 was a big round number that doesn't really hold up too well. 55/45 though, the same fate that awaited Vincent against Crono years ago 1-1. edit: on that note, morning vote is hitting and Big Daddy begins to fade. RIP big guy. --- "When your enemies defy you, you must serve them steel and fire. When they go to their knees, however, you must help them back to their feet." |
I
can buy 55/45 - it's at the *very* upper end of my estimates of Crono's
strength (Squall didn't have KH2 when he lost to Vincent back then,
he'd be an easy pick if Vincent didn't have his own game... heck, I
still kind of like that pick), but not out of the realm of possibility.
At that point though he's less around 'losing to Pikachu with Magus in
the match' tier and more up to 'beating SSB-boosted Mega Man tier'. --- sig |
I actually just came back home and read every post. I literally wouldn't be surprised no matter whatever the f*** happens. Crono can still win even if Magus is there. Crono can still lose even if Magus is absent against Pikachu. Though I just don't think Pikachu>Crono can happen in a simple 1v1. --- Pokemon Showdown Peak Ranking OU: 2004 And then lost 7 matches in a row >_> |
I did kind of forget that Squall doesn't take too much SFF flak around these parts, had to look at some polls to remember that. We'll see what Squall is up to soon enough. Let's hope for his sake he hasn't gone the way of FF7. --- "When your enemies defy you, you must serve them steel and fire. When they go to their knees, however, you must help them back to their feet." |
How come Squall can destroy Tidus via SFF but not do anything to Auron? --- Feeling tired? Allow me to prescribe you a peppermint latte |
People actually like Auron. --- "When your enemies defy you, you must serve them steel and fire. When they go to their knees, however, you must help them back to their feet." |
The
Missingno chaos is why it sucks so much that Yoshi was put in the most
predictable path all contest, but this format does that to a lot of
characters. Crono winning is more likely even with Magus there. I consider Pikachu over Crono a huge upset that apparently a majority of the gurus think will happen. --- *2, *8,070,446 Kuroko no Basket *3, *6,495,240 Naruto |
Nanis23 posted... Pikachu Crono is not debateable because This is awful logic. In order for someone to take advantage of LFF, they still have to be close enough to the stronger character. Also required is for the weaker character to not get SFF'd into oblivion. Crono/Magus is not the same as Fox/Wolf or Mega Man/Zero in that Magus will be lucky to break 10% in that match, while Zero and Wolf will have a much higher share of the votals. Also, Blue is closer to Fox and Charizard closer to Mega Man than Pikachu is to Crono. Hey, I just realized, Bacon rigged the bracket to give Pokemon characters all sorts of great LFF setups. Screw you Bacon --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? However, the Guru of the next decade so far is SuperNiceDog |
Lloyd is struggling to keep the 200 vote lead. This match... |
I don't see how Wolf can resist SFF more than Magus --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... Also, Blue is closer to Fox and Charizard closer to Mega Man than Pikachu is to Crono. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3809 --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
Big Daddy needs to cut 5.25 votes an update to tie. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 38/44 Today's Picks: Gordon Freeman and Crono |
I feel like Big Daddy might bring it under 100, but the cuts are too small for him to win. |
Big Daddy, please channel the spirit of Alucard and make a shocking run with the morning vote. --- Fine! I'll go to the store and get your Goddamn drain cleaner! Character Battle IX Tingle Victory Parade - the journey is over.... |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... Nanis23 posted...Pikachu Crono is not debateable because Pikachu is already close to Crono power anyway Even if Crono is indeed stronger 1vs1,those 10% of the votes Magus leech from him are enough He doesn't need a crazy LFF,just a small one |
The
problem Big Daddy is going to have as opposed to Alucard is that this
is a battle for second, not for first. Pikachu is going to be a much
bigger vote sponge than Rydia was. --- Agent Triple Zero at your service! The artist formerly known as greatone10. |
Alucard. The vampire which shines during the dawn. --- Pokemon Showdown Peak Ranking OU: 2004 And then lost 7 matches in a row >_> |
Tales characters are so sad really If Lloyd lose this... Well at least they got Xenoblade charcters to keep them company |
I think Xenoblade characters were invented solely to make Tales characters look respectable. --- Fine! I'll go to the store and get your Goddamn drain cleaner! Character Battle IX Tingle Victory Parade - the journey is over.... |
Is it? Using a constant Lloyd Snake gets about 65% on Pikachu, make Crono equal to Squall and it's a 57/43 match. I guess it depends where you rank Crono, but unless you have low standards Pikachu is going to need a lot of LFF. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 38/44 Today's Picks: Gordon Freeman and Crono |
The people who went to bed around 3-4am ET with Lloyd still gaining are gonna be pretty surprised when they wake up. --- POKEFEAR |
charmander6000 posted... Is it? Using a constant Lloyd Snake gets about 65% on Pikachu, make Crono equal to Squall and it's a 57/43 match. Yeah, apparently I picked Pikachu but I would swap it to Crono in an instant right now. I don't feel remotely good about it. --- Crucifying my Oracle average one match at a time |
charmander6000 posted... Is it? Using a constant Lloyd Snake gets about 65% on Pikachu, make Crono equal to Squall and it's a 57/43 match. Lloyd Snake would be the worst Big Boss clone you could imagine. --- Agent Triple Zero at your service! The artist formerly known as greatone10. |
_SecretSquirrel posted... charmander6000 posted...Is it? Using a constant Lloyd Snake gets about 65% on Pikachu, make Crono equal to Squall and it's a 57/43 match. Two swords, more than enough to cut anything that moves. |
Big Daddy hasn't lost an update to Lloyd since 8:40 am. Also, if Big Daddy can never take this lead, with a max lead of 378, this would become our closest ever wire-to-wire match in which the losing character never led. |
I
can't believe the biggest comeback of the contest so far might be a guy
who got 40% on Tifa slowly inching his way closer to Lloyd. |
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