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Xuxon posted... Isaac isn't weaker than Lloyd, Keen is just turbo fodder I honestly didn't check, but you're probably right. My overall point stands, Big Daddy+Lloyd should easily outpace Isaac+Keen. --- sig |
Achromatic posted... I find it absurd that people are actually trying to debate that Pikachu > Crono straight up. Like, Crono > Pikachu is not even a debate or anything. Seriously. If you think Crono gets less than 70% on Lloyd Irving, you might as well pick him to lose to anyone with half decent strength. Even at the peak of Lloyd's strength in 2005, Zero got 73% on Lloyd. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
I
briefly considered taking Missle over Kerrigan because I didn't think
that many people cared about her and Missle is adorable, but I figured
Crono would take the apathy votes. Might have pulled the trigger 1v1; oh
well! --- I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword |
Unless
Magus looks like a total beast against Otacon, Crono > Pikachu lis
looking mroe and more likely. Disappointing, but at least CT will be
going out on a high note instead of bombing in hilarious fashion. |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... Why would Kerrigan fall when SC2 had a Kerrigan focused expansion not 5 months ago? I don't know anything about Starcraft, but earlier people were saying how they ruined Kerrigan's "Queen B of the universe" character. Who knows if that adversely affected her strength though. Since as everyone says, this site stopped playing games in 2006. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Also, Pikachu is quickly threatening to drop below Fox's mark at this rate. --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
Achromatic posted... I find it absurd that people are actually trying to debate that Pikachu > Crono straight up. Like, Crono > Pikachu is not even a debate or anything. It is all about Magus being there. Do you understand now? This is what your sprite round has wrought. --- sig |
Does Lloyd doing well here prove Kratos A. > Chocobo? --- If you believe in the Lord FE7 and you accept FE7 as the Savior of video games and are 100% proud of it, put this in your sig. |
Also Pikachu's % is tanking hard right now. Let's fry us up some rodent...! --- "When your enemies defy you, you must serve them steel and fire. When they go to their knees, however, you must help them back to their feet." |
tgs2 posted... Unless Magus looks like a total beast against Otacon, Crono > Pikachu lis looking mroe and more likely. Disappointing, but at least CT will be going out on a high note instead of bombing in hilarious fashion. Magus destroying that match is probably better news for Crono because he's going to destroy Magus pretty hard regardless of their relative strengths. Magus looking pathetic going into that match is worse for Crono than him looking good going into it. --- http://gifsoup.com/view/477513/red-vs-blue-road-rage-part-1-o.gif http://gifsoup.com/view/477534/red-vs-blue-road-rage-part-2-o.gif |
Man
I love the stats topic's heel-face relationship with Pikachu. We only
like the thing when it's convenient (SAVE US FROM L-BLOCK). Now though?
Coming up with every conceivable reason for it to lose to Crono. I'm in
that boat too but I just thought this was amusing. I think the way things are right now, Pikachu has just enough to beat Crono if Magus is in the mix. Here's hoping Magus does what he does best against Otacon tomorrow! --- Die young and save yourself. Brace for the G's, and fast heel-toe work. |
OrangeCrush980 posted... Does Lloyd doing well here prove Kratos A. > Chocobo? If Kratos A can't even beat friggin Sackboy he probably won't beat Chocobo --- Want any VNs pre-patched? PM me. List of VNs can be found by clicking on my username. |
Pikachu
and Crono have already had a match and Pikachu got 46% on him. it isn't
THAT absurd to think Pikachu could have won even without Magus there. i
just don't think these performances show that. --- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxkdr0uNc91qlu5jao1_r1_400.gif |
Why does Crono > Pikachu look more and more likely? Apart from Jigglypuff, the Pokemon have looked great. --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/NQTthNf.jpg |
Meh,
I think Pikachu is still gonna whup Crono next round. Everything is
lining up well for Pikachu to seize the moment. If not....well, I'm
****ed. --- Drop it to the floor... |
ExThaNemesis posted... Coming up with every conceivable reason for it to lose to Crono. What are you talking about? Crono beats Pikachu effortlessly if Magus isn't there. It's just a fact. And everybody rightly admitted back in 2008 that Pikachu was just in a situation of being the lesser of two evils! --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
To
be fair to people debating Pikachu > Crono, the notion probably
comes from how much the board talks about this idea that Chrono Trigger
is dead. Crono barely loses a first round match to someone who goes on
to almost beat Sephiroth, and all of a sudden he's clearly just an upper
midcarder at best. It's silly, but I've even seen board regulars saying
stuff along those lines, so it messes with people's expectations. --- Ace Detective for Hire http://i.imgur.com/SiKSwJV.jpg |
I really wish Lloyd/Big Daddy was a 1 v 1 match. The reactions would've been amazing. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
ChenKenichiFan posted... Why does Crono > Pikachu look more and more likely? Apart from Jigglypuff, the Pokemon have looked great. I personally don't think Lugia's or Squirtle's performances were that great. Well, I guess it depends on what you expected from them. --- http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7760/222bj.jpg |
Xuxon posted... Pikachu and Crono have already had a match and Pikachu got 46% on him. it isn't THAT absurd to think Pikachu could have won even without Magus there. i just don't think these performances show that. Multi-way polls can always do screwy things. Kirby beat Sonic - and he's 100% not stronger than him and never has been! But that's not the proposition. The assertion isn't that Pikachu can win next round, it's that he's stronger than Crono straight up. His strength doesn't validate that. --- sig |
So apparently I have lloyd > Big daddy. I do not remember making this pick. but im going to take it. --- rawr |
Chrono
Trigger and its characters have been on a ten-year decline. Unless we
get some consistent results that point to that decline being reversed,
the logical thing to do is to assume the decline will continue. This,
naturally, leads to taking more and more "pathetic" upsets over the CT
crew until they give us reasons not to. I think 2008 was the last time
anything from Chrono Trigger had a good win. --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/gdl8lcn.jpg |
LeonhartFour posted... ExThaNemesis posted...Coming up with every conceivable reason for it to lose to Crono. Yeah I meant with Magus there. But that's what I mean! It'd be like the IWC rooting for (someone) just because they wanted him to beat John Cena. Which is basically where I'm at with Link at this point. I'd cheer for Squall if that was the final match. --- Die young and save yourself. Brace for the G's, and fast heel-toe work. |
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 8/1/2013 1:01:36 AM | #220 Xuxon posted...Pikachu and Crono have already had a match and Pikachu got 46% on him. it isn't THAT absurd to think Pikachu could have won even without Magus there. i just don't think these performances show that. most people would equate those things if Otacon is the other character in the match --- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxkdr0uNc91qlu5jao1_r1_400.gif |
Yoblazer, did you give your opinion on the Yuna/Claire ass LFF in the match pic? I'm worried Chief could pull off the upset now!! I might be willing to take that though if we can forever point to ass LFF as something that actually happened in a contest. --- Die young and save yourself. Brace for the G's, and fast heel-toe work. |
LeonhartFour posted... Magus destroying that match is probably better news for Crono because he's going to destroy Magus pretty hard regardless of their relative strengths. Magus looking pathetic going into that match is worse for Crono than him looking good going into it. I wouldn't even try to relate anything from that match with Crono. Crono and Magus don't really seem to be correlated in strength, and no matter how strong Magus looks Crono is likely to obliterate him anyway. The problem for Crono is that probably almost all of Magus' votes will come and his expense. But this isn't Mega Man/Zero - we've already seen Crono put 70% on Magus 1v1, and in 3-ways where everyone knows Crono needs their vote, that will be much worse. Regardless of how strong Magus is he will get SFFed and Obvious Last Place Factor'd something bad. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
I want Otacon > Magus to happen just so I can see the board's reaction if Pikachu > Crono happens anyway. I say this, but I'll be voting for Crono in that match regardless. --- Brawl FC - 1332 8069 6690 http://i.imgur.com/OZ9aS.png |
ExThaNemesis posted... LeonhartFour posted...ExThaNemesis posted...Coming up with every conceivable reason for it to lose to Crono. But would you cheer for John Cena to beat Link? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://www.wwe.com/f/wysiwyg/image/2013/07/wyatt07062013.gif |
I
dunno. To me, it's not really that it's Pikachu. I just don't like the
idea of a Noble Niner getting punked in the second round by a guy who's
clearly weaker than him because Bacon doesn't understand the concept of
LFF. Tribute to the Noble Nine my foot! --- http://gifsoup.com/view/874243/big-boss-o.gif |
Rad Link 5 posted... To be fair to people debating Pikachu > Crono, the notion probably comes from how much the board talks about this idea that Chrono Trigger is dead. Crono barely loses a first round match to someone who goes on to almost beat Sephiroth, and all of a sudden he's clearly just an upper midcarder at best. It's silly, but I've even seen board regulars saying stuff along those lines, so it messes with people's expectations. Missingno wasn't static though (or at least you'd have a hard time convincing me he was). I don't like the idea of Sephiroth being that close to Crono. --- Die young and save yourself. Brace for the G's, and fast heel-toe work. |
ChenKenichiFan posted... I can buy Big Daddy overperforming on Tifa because almost everything overperforms against FFVII, but he still looked better than Gordon. Fast forward three years, and Gordon (who has received absolutely nothing since 2007) looks like a stud and Big Daddy is bombing despite at least two clear poll advantages. Portal and Half-Life 2 looked pretty good in Game of the Decade and we've also had Portal 2 since then. And Half-Life being as weak as it was on this site back in the day compared to other sites was always slightly weird, though being consoleFAQs it did make sense. I'd expect any kind of site shift whatsoever to benefit Gordon because of that, and FFVII weakening over time probably does indicate some kind of shift. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
GloryChaos posted... I want Otacon > Magus to happen just so I can see the board's reaction if Pikachu > Crono happens anyway. if that happens, LeonhartFour to ragequit the contest confirmed |
ChenKenichiFan posted... Chrono Trigger and its characters have been on a ten-year decline. http://thengamer.com/xstats/ranks.php?name=Crono Rumors of Crono's demise have been greatly exaggerated. Hell, even Frog's been fairly consistent. http://thengamer.com/xstats/ranks.php?name=Frog Magus, however... http://thengamer.com/xstats/ranks.php?name=Magus Magus definitely looked better early on. --- Ace Detective for Hire |
Jakyl25 posted... ExThaNemesis posted...LeonhartFour posted...ExThaNemesis posted...Coming up with every conceivable reason for it to lose to Crono. Depends. If it's the main event of Wrestlemania for the WWE Title? Link. If it's in a character battle final? LET'S GO CENA --- Die young and save yourself. Brace for the G's, and fast heel-toe work. |
ChenKenichiFan posted... I think 2008 was the last time anything from Chrono Trigger had a good win. Well, considering they haven't had a win since 2008 until this contest, that makes sense! Unless we're counting the Games Contest, I guess. --- http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lo22vfguji1qzxr43.gif |
LeonhartFour posted... tgs2 posted...Unless Magus looks like a total beast against Otacon, Crono > Pikachu lis looking mroe and more likely. Disappointing, but at least CT will be going out on a high note instead of bombing in hilarious fashion. You're probably right, but I like to think a stronger Magus means more people likely not switching over to Crono compared to a very weak Magus. It just makes more sense to me though there's tons of evidence that proves me wrong. |
Xuxon posted... From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 8/1/2013 1:01:36 AM | #220Xuxon posted...Pikachu and Crono have already had a match and Pikachu got 46% on him. it isn't THAT absurd to think Pikachu could have won even without Magus there. i just don't think these performances show that. I wouldn't (although it would be *highly* suggestive of a 1v1, but I digress). Multiway polls can't be trusted. That being said, Crono > Pikachu > Otacon if he gets there is about as close as a mortal lock to you can get in the format, true shutout style blowouts notwithstanding. --- sig |
1337gamerpr0 posted... if that happens, LeonhartFour to ragequit the contest confirmed spoilers I'm not as emotionally invested in individual outcomes as I may appear to be And certainly not in the outcome of Chrono Trigger! If any outcome would cause me to ragequit this year, it'd be Missingno > Squall. I haven't gotten legitimately upset over a contest result since...Probably Master Hand > Kuja, actually. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
LeonhartFour posted... ChenKenichiFan posted...I think 2008 was the last time anything from Chrono Trigger had a good win. Frog/Magus in Rivalry Rumble. *runs away* |
LeonhartFour posted... I dunno. To me, it's not really that it's Pikachu. I just don't like the idea of a Noble Niner getting punked in the second round by a guy who's clearly weaker than him because Bacon doesn't understand the concept of LFF. Considering SBAllen's score right now, he may actually have a good idea how matches will go when he puts some effort into making his bracket. He probably does know what LFF is and either doesn't bother avoiding it or intentionally sets it up (Link/___/Mario finals). --- Pokemon VGC2013 BC Regional - 16th place Pokemon VGC2013 US National - 39th place |
LeonhartFour posted... I dunno. To me, it's not really that it's Pikachu. I just don't like the idea of a Noble Niner getting punked in the second round by a guy who's clearly weaker than him because Bacon doesn't understand the concept of LFF. Do we know he doesn't get it? I always assumed he did and it was intentional to try and generate "surprising" results. Only they aren't really surprising to us. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX |
From: LeonhartFour | Posted: 8/1/2013 1:07:55 AM | #235 ChenKenichiFan posted...I think 2008 was the last time anything from Chrono Trigger had a good win. there may have been something else in between then and now. i can't quite remember, though... --- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxkdr0uNc91qlu5jao1_r1_400.gif |
I'm still legitimately upset over Snake v Pikachu and my guy won that match --- sig |
It's so hard to fathom that Magus has fallen so far that Frog probably is stronger than him now. How the hell did he ever pull his 2003 run off? --- Demyx is better than Axel. http://www.last.fm/user/crazydom |
LeonhartFour posted... 1337gamerpr0 posted...if that happens, LeonhartFour to ragequit the contest confirmed You should try being within reach of winning the contest only for your favorite character to be upset in a match he was heavily favored to win!! --- Die young and save yourself. Brace for the G's, and fast heel-toe work. |
MegatokyoEd posted... It's so hard to fathom that Magus has fallen so far that Frog probably is stronger than him now. Oh what a difference hindsight can make. Remember when in 2003 everyone thought he was a massive disappointment for almost losing to Ganondorf and for getting pounded by Link? Good times... |
I
dunno. Maybe he gets it now. I remember someone complaining to him in a
ticket about putting two L4D characters in the same vote-in poll
because they're stealing each other's votes, and he legitimately didn't
seem to grasp what the problem was. Although Bacon getting it only makes setting up matches like Leon/Wesker/Oliver more egregious! If you're going to do something that silly, at least put someone in the match who can threaten to beat Leon! --- http://i.imgur.com/fe05x.png http://i.imgur.com/stNJf.png |
LeonhartFour posted... I dunno. To me, it's not really that it's Pikachu. I just don't like the idea of a Noble Niner getting punked in the second round by a guy who's clearly weaker than him because Bacon doesn't understand the concept of LFF. I'm certain that he would understand the concept of LFF and probably made the bracket to force this match to be interesting. |
ExThaNemesis posted... You should try being within reach of winning the contest only for your favorite character to be upset in a match he was heavily favored to win!! I was literally one match away from winning 4chan's stupid Sidekick Battle because I wrongly expected 4chan to actually pick the more humorous joke option to win the contest. --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
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