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Pikachu is doing a bit better on Lloyd than Ryu did on Yuri Lowell. Who is stronger, Lloyd or Yuri? --- Pokemon VGC2013 BC Regional - 16th place Pokemon VGC2013 US National - 39th place |
kinsho3 posted... Well, this blows. At least last match, I had a feeling Kerrigan would blow 2nd place against Missile. I had no idea with this match that Lloyd would be wiping the floor early on with Big Daddy. Getting 70% on Lloyd is pretty far from Crono-beater level, if Lloyd has stayed constant - although who the hell knows if he has or not. This site seems very up and down on Tales' characters. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Karma Hunter posted... ...you really think Pikachu is above Crono when he's fighting tooth and nail to stay above what Fox scored on Lloyd last contest? You might as well put Crono below half the field. Forget 2010 x-stats. Just compare this match to the last match. You know very well that Big Daddy and Lloyd combined stomp on the likes of Sarah Kerrigan and Missile combined. Crono can still win, but Pikachu is the favorite, especially if Magus gets involved in their little match-up. --- Drop it to the floor... |
Fun fact: Big Daddy was the strongest current-gen character in the last contest according to the xstats. |
I'd say Lloyd since more people played Symphonia I would take Pika over Ryu --- Want any VNs pre-patched? PM me. List of VNs can be found by clicking on my username. |
Guys,
guys, you don't *need* any explanations. Just assume that Pikachu's
value on Snake and Big Daddy's value on Tifa is legit, with a bit of
rSFFing smooth out for Tifa against Sephiroth. Hail x-stats --- sig |
kinsho3 posted... Forget 2010 x-stats. Just compare this match to the last match. You know very well that Big Daddy and Lloyd combined stomp on the likes of Sarah Kerrigan and Missile combined. Crono can still win, but Pikachu is the favorite, especially if Magus gets involved in their little match-up. Yeah...this is wrong. "if" Magus isn't there Crono will win and it won't be close. If Magus does make it, there is no firm favorite really. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
LeonhartFour posted... Uhhh, it's probably a wash at this point. A little stronger is being generous to Crono. When you have a dog win 2nd place in that match-up solely based on his cuteness, you know very well you're dealing with a fairly weak pair of characters. --- Drop it to the floor... |
creativename posted... Rad Link 5 posted...I don't think there can be any doubt at this point that Tifa was being punished in that match for Sephiroth beating MissingNo. My biggest problem with that is looking at the other people who benefited from Big Daddy's performance on Tifa. http://thengamer.com/xstats/ranks.php?name=Ness Ness suddenly jumps up like 7% in the xsts, and I can't remember any good reason why that should have been the case. http://thengamer.com/xstats/ranks.php?name=Soap%20MacTavish Soap McTarvish at 23% seems suspect. At least to me. http://thengamer.com/xstats/ranks.php?name=Geno Even Geno's a bit stronger than usual, though that one's small enough to be handwaved. If you assume Big Daddy was overrated because of an over-performance on Tifa, everyone else lines up better with what's expected of them. --- Ace Detective for Hire http://i.imgur.com/7KESZk8.gif |
kinsho3 posted... Karma Hunter posted......you really think Pikachu is above Crono when he's fighting tooth and nail to stay above what Fox scored on Lloyd last contest? You might as well put Crono below half the field. No, that's stupid; percentages matter - they matter the most! Otherwise you might as well start calling for Link's head with as scrubby as his competition was. --- sig |
Chart from the day match: Time | Crono | Kerrigan | Missile | Votes 0:05 | 57.25% | 17.17% | 25.58% | 559 1:00 | 60.63% | 17.82% | 21.54% 4735 2:00 | 58.42% | 16.62% | 24.96% | 3983 3:00 | 59.89% | 16.97% | 23.14% | 3530 4:00 | 62.33% | 18.73% | 18.94% | 2814 5:00 | 64.26% | 18.28% | 17.46% | 2714 6:00 | 64.99% | 18.16% | 16.85% | 2451 7:00 | 64.90% | 17.70% | 17.40% | 2299 8:00 | 65.58% | 18.15% | 16.27% | 2083 9:00 | 65.17% | 18.60% | 16.23% | 1941 10:00 | 67.44% | 17.04% | 15.52% | 1843 11:00 | 66.55% | 17.51% | 15.93% | 1776 12:00 | 66.24% | 18.24% | 15.53% | 1700 Pretty easy to tell when the rally ended! Crono doubled up the poll the last few hours after Europe went to bed. Missile becomes the first character this contest to beat another character despite losing more than half the hours to his opponent. Good job, boy! X-Stats: Crono – 50.00% Missile – 23.41% Sarah Kerrigan – 21.97% Crono's prediction percentage was 87.11% --- http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab48/Leonhart4/Squall.jpg |
kinsho3 posted... When you have a dog win 2nd place in that match-up solely based on his cuteness, you know very well you're dealing with a fairly weak pair of characters. Both groups are weak. You're just being pointlessly dismissive because Missile is a dog for some reason. --- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/26leonpngat.png http://img.imgcake.com/nio/daigohadoupnguj.png |
Team Rocket Elite posted... Pikachu is doing a bit better on Lloyd than Ryu did on Yuri Lowell. Who is stronger, Lloyd or Yuri? It should still be Lloyd. Though I'm of the belief that Yuri we saw this year was his true strength since he wasn't up against a fellow jRPG character. --- Now Awaiting: Tales of Xillia, Squigly patch for Skullgirls |
From: Rad Link 5 | Posted: 8/1/2013 12:36:40 AM | #159 creativename posted...Rad Link 5 posted...I don't think there can be any doubt at this point that Tifa was being punished in that match for Sephiroth beating MissingNo. i think you misunderstand. even basing Big Daddy on Ness instead and ignoring the Tifa match entirely, his strength has plummeted. Ness would handle Lloyd fairly easily, and Big Daddy handled Ness fairly easily. --- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxkdr0uNc91qlu5jao1_r1_400.gif |
If Big Daddy did overperform on Tifa, it surely wasn't due to Missingno's vengeance of all things. Most likely just a total contrast in characters/games. Though I'd still go with Big Daddy dropping a lot route, just seems more realistic, especially as Pika's %age on Lloyd doesn't seem very remarkable. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Big Daddy is probably overrated and has dropped at the same time. Either way, I'm not taking Lloyd over Ness because of this. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png |
Karma Hunter posted... No, that's stupid; percentages matter - they matter the most! Otherwise you might as well start calling for Link's head with as scrubby as his competition was. Dude, no....just no. Link, Cloud, and Sephy suffer from anti-voting. Crono doesn't. He had a very ****ty pair of characters in his match-up and he barely managed to put up 63%. Dude, he's not winning next round. --- Drop it to the floor... |
Man,
can't believe how crappy Kerrigan and Big Daddy looked. Could this year
mark the return to 2004 level JRPG hardon trends? If so, kiss the Pika
> Crono upset goodbye. --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? However, the Guru of the next decade so far is SuperNiceDog |
I
can buy Big Daddy overperforming on Tifa because almost everything
overperforms against FFVII, but he still looked better than Gordon. Fast
forward three years, and Gordon (who has received absolutely nothing
since 2007) looks like a stud and Big Daddy is bombing despite at least
two clear poll advantages. --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/NQTthNf.jpg |
kinsho3 posted... Karma Hunter posted...No, that's stupid; percentages matter - they matter the most! Otherwise you might as well start calling for Link's head with as scrubby as his competition was. I have Pikachu > Crono next round. But your arguments are horrible, awful, atrocious. They make me less confident in my own bracket picking and I'm on the leaderboard! Snake's group was far weaker than this, too. Wanna pull the trigger on Pikachu pulling it off when he couldn't do it given every single advantage he could possibly have? --- sig |
kinsho3 posted... Karma Hunter posted...No, that's stupid; percentages matter - they matter the most! Otherwise you might as well start calling for Link's head with as scrubby as his competition was. How is Pikachu's pair any better? it's a dude who got beaten 70 - 30 by Fox and another dude even weaker than that. hell, Big Daddy probably loses to Missile at this point. |
Two zeroes in a row for expert I guess. Go me. --- I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... Man, can't believe how crappy Kerrigan and Big Daddy looked. Could this year mark the return to 2004 level JRPG hardon trends? If so, kiss the Pika > Crono upset goodbye. But Pika is from a JRPG too --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
Big Daddy was right behind Fox in the stats in 2010, too! --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... Man, can't believe how crappy Kerrigan and Big Daddy looked. Could this year mark the return to 2004 level JRPG hardon trends? If so, kiss the Pika > Crono upset goodbye. Considering your usual attitude towards Tales characters, you're being way too nice to Big Daddy here! >_> --- Pokemon VGC2013 BC Regional - 16th place Pokemon VGC2013 US National - 39th place |
Lloyd with the kill shot those last two updates. I think he's safe now. --- http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lo22vfguji1qzxr43.gif |
so Lloyd is basically absorbing % from Big Daddy while Pikachu is constant well then.... |
LeonhartFour posted... kinsho3 posted...When you have a dog win 2nd place in that match-up solely based on his cuteness, you know very well you're dealing with a fairly weak pair of characters. I take it you have Crono winning next round. Yeah. It's funny how some of us retroactively rewrite history in order to bolster any positive sentiments they may have for later picks. None of us rightly expected anything from Missile before the match even started. And then he goes ahead and actually performs well, for a fairly unknown character from a very niche game. Yeah, Kerrigan really blew the ball in that match, but so did Crono. The fact that Crono couldn't gather over 70% of the votes against such weak competition is very unsettling. I say this as a huge fan of Crono - he's not winning the next matchup. --- Drop it to the floor... |
Clearly Big Daddy is being SFFed don't ask why --- For your SuperNiceDog. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza |
Then00bAvenger posted... BlAcK TuRtLe posted...Man, can't believe how crappy Kerrigan and Big Daddy looked. Could this year mark the return to 2004 level JRPG hardon trends? If so, kiss the Pika > Crono upset goodbye. Even though Pokemon is an RPG from Japan, I hesitate to call it a JRPG. --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? However, the Guru of the next decade so far is SuperNiceDog |
kinsho3 posted... LeonhartFour posted...kinsho3 posted...When you have a dog win 2nd place in that match-up solely based on his cuteness, you know very well you're dealing with a fairly weak pair of characters. You don't know much about direct %s if you think Crono was supposed to get 70% in that match, sorry. --- "When your enemies defy you, you must serve them steel and fire. When they go to their knees, however, you must help them back to their feet." |
I
think the whole being dismissive of his performance because he's a cute
dog is silly, too, but then again I think being dismissive of
characters with boobs is silly, too, so what do I know~ Xuxon posted... i think you misunderstand. even basing Big Daddy on Ness instead and ignoring the Tifa match entirely, his strength has plummeted. Ness would handle Lloyd fairly easily, and Big Daddy handled Ness fairly easily. Oh don't get me wrong, I didn't mean his strength hasn't plummeted (although I still think he's gonna end this match looking a lot better than he does right now, but still weaker). All I said was that he definitely overperformed on Tifa. I thought the whole thing about MissingNo. backlash was overblown before, but it's hard to believe Big Daddy plummeted this badly if his performance on Tifa is to be believed. Could still have overperformed for another reason, I guess, though. --- Ace Detective for Hire http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/9451/20110530afabodo.jpg |
For the record, Pikachu's current mark on Lloyd would put him pretty much even with Ryu and Dante based on the 2010 stats. Pretty impressive, but not enough to beat Crono. --- http://img.imgcake.com/tumblrmb8ky9zpsk1qd3518o8250gifyd.gif http://img.imgcake.com/tumblrmb8ky9zpsk1qd3518o6250gifuv.gif |
A
Tales of Symphonia remake was announced this year. And Tales fans have
been far more active recently due to all the shouting over localizing
games. All this hype got other people into the series as well. I could see Lloyd getting a boost from this. --- Brawl FC - 1332 8069 6690 http://i.imgur.com/OZ9aS.png |
LordoftheMorons posted... Two zeroes in a row for expert I guess. Go me. Don't worry, you aren't going to lose any ground! No picking almost the whole division isn't looking like a bad idea at this point... Then00bAvenger posted... BlAcK TuRtLe posted...Man, can't believe how crappy Kerrigan and Big Daddy looked. Could this year mark the return to 2004 level JRPG hardon trends? If so, kiss the Pika > Crono upset goodbye. Heh, I was about to say this too, but figured it was too snarky considering the context... --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
kinsho3 posted... None of us rightly expected anything from Missile before the match even started. I don't know why you bolded the most irrelevant statement in your post. Our pre-match expectations of a character mean nothing. --- http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lo22vfguji1qzxr43.gif |
Karma Hunter posted... I have Pikachu > Crono next round. Solid Snake actually had a character with halfway decent strength (relative to other fodder) in Isaac. I'm seriously surprised you think Kerrigan and Missile could compare to the likes of Big Daddy and Lloyd. They simply can't. --- Drop it to the floor... |
Team Rocket Elite posted... BlAcK TuRtLe posted...Man, can't believe how crappy Kerrigan and Big Daddy looked. Could this year mark the return to 2004 level JRPG hardon trends? If so, kiss the Pika > Crono upset goodbye. Bioshock is a crappy game, I never understood where the nerd-boners came from. I'm just surprised a Fails character is managing to not completely stink up the joint. My main issue with Fails characters is that every years theres 4-8 of them in the bracket, and they all hover at around 12% BL --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? However, the Guru of the next decade so far is SuperNiceDog |
Well, based on the last two matches and how Western characters have performed in them, I can't say this makes me feel good about Drake running through a Nintendo gauntlet in R2 (or hell, even beating Pac-Man). --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/gdl8lcn.jpg |
We
were just wrong about Missile. It's as simple as that. It's not the
first time we've messed up on predicting a complete unknown and it won't
be the last. Crono looked fine relative to Kerrigan who is a known
quantity. --- Pokemon VGC2013 BC Regional - 16th place Pokemon VGC2013 US National - 39th place |
Team Rocket Elite posted... We were just wrong about Missile. It's as simple as that. It's not the first time we've messed up on predicting a complete unknown and it won't be the last. Crono looked fine relative to Kerrigan who is a known quantity. hasn't Kerrigan fallen a lot though |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... Team Rocket Elite posted...BlAcK TuRtLe posted...Man, can't believe how crappy Kerrigan and Big Daddy looked. Could this year mark the return to 2004 level JRPG hardon trends? If so, kiss the Pika > Crono upset goodbye. This is the worst post. --- For your SuperNiceDog. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza |
kinsho3 posted... Karma Hunter posted...I have Pikachu > Crono next round. They don't have to, Crono did a *lot* better than Pikachu is doing now on his pack. Isaac is halfway decent, but he's weaker than both Lloyd and Big Daddy and Commander Keen is nothing. If you call for Crono's head, you might as well start calling for Snake's. The rat is obviously weaker than Crono directly, the question is Magus. --- sig |
Right
now I think Crono is definitely stronger than Pikachu, but I think
Magus being there will be enough to give Pikachu the win. Should still
be close though. |
1337gamerpr0 posted... Team Rocket Elite posted...We were just wrong about Missile. It's as simple as that. It's not the first time we've messed up on predicting a complete unknown and it won't be the last. Crono looked fine relative to Kerrigan who is a known quantity. Why would Kerrigan fall when SC2 had a Kerrigan focused expansion not 5 months ago? --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? However, the Guru of the next decade so far is SuperNiceDog |
I
find it absurd that people are actually trying to debate that Pikachu
> Crono straight up. Like, Crono > Pikachu is not even a debate or
anything. It is all about Magus being there. --- "When your enemies defy you, you must serve them steel and fire. When they go to their knees, however, you must help them back to their feet." |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... Bioshock is a crappy game, I never understood where the nerd-boners came from. I'm just surprised a Fails character is managing to not completely stink up the joint. My main issue with Fails characters is that every years theres 4-8 of them in the bracket, and they all hover at around 12% BL That's some revisionist history >.> Lloyd & Kratos A are weak, but they've never been garbage. --- Now Awaiting: Tales of Xillia, Squigly patch for Skullgirls |
Isaac isn't weaker than Lloyd, Keen is just turbo fodder --- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxkdr0uNc91qlu5jao1_r1_400.gif |
1337gamerpr0 posted... Team Rocket Elite posted...We were just wrong about Missile. It's as simple as that. It's not the first time we've messed up on predicting a complete unknown and it won't be the last. Crono looked fine relative to Kerrigan who is a known quantity. Granted I don't really follow Starcraft, but hasn't she had a hit game and an expansion pack since her last appearance? And didn't the expansion pack come out just a few months ago? I wouldn't expect someone to get weaker from that. --- Ace Detective for Hire http://i.imgur.com/PMeJxce.gif |
clearly Lloyd is doing so well because Crono fans are voting for him to make Pikachu look bad *grabs tinfoil hat* |
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