Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1083

#201 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/29/2013 9:57:10 PM | message detail
I actually know some people who like Kat cuz she's so OP in PSASBR and have never played her game

that said

it's like 3 people

and they are probably the only 3 people with that mindset in the world
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#202 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/29/2013 10:15:33 PM | message detail
i wonder how well Kat and Yu would do while separated

probably not that much better

i cannot believe vita-sff is an actual thing going on right now
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#203 | HaRRicH | Posted 7/29/2013 10:16:49 PM | message detail
What kind of effect has Playstation All Stars proven to have so far this contest, anyway? Kat (DLC), Dante, Jak, Sly, Raiden, Ratchet...not sure there's a clear read from them yet on how to gauge the rest of the cast in the contest -- Big Daddy, Isaac Clark, Drake, Kratos, and Sackboy.

Dissidia > Playstation All-Stars might be something, if effects on their characters is a sign of anything.
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#204 | pjbasis | Posted 7/29/2013 10:16:50 PM | message detail
Vita SFF requires that there are a lot of Vita users
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#205 | GloryChaos | Posted 7/29/2013 10:17:23 PM | message detail
Well, persona 4 did come out on the ps2 as well. And some of Yu's votes may come from Persona 4 Arena.
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#206 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 7/29/2013 10:17:33 PM | message detail
ZenOfThunder posted...
found out girlfriend voted for shadow

need new girlfriend


Now now, since there was no match pic for a bit, maybe she thought it was the ninja from FF6.

(let's ignore the fact that his name is Shadow the Hedgehog in the poll)
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#207 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/29/2013 10:18:14 PM | message detail
We can pretty much rename this poll "Got Vita?"

Yu is "no, but I want one"
Shadow is "no, and I don't want one"
Kat is "yes" or "I like boobs"
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#208 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 7/29/2013 10:24:31 PM | message detail
Kat is backing up my view that Reimu doing as well as she did was because of her being a cute anime girl, not Touhou.
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#209 | swirIdude | Posted 7/29/2013 10:37:03 PM | message detail
GloryChaos posted...
Well, persona 4 did come out on the ps2 as well. And some of Yu's votes may come from Persona 4 Arena.


This is the only reason Yu has so many more votes than Kat.
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#210 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 7/29/2013 10:38:36 PM | message detail
ZenOfThunder posted...
We can pretty much rename this poll "Got Vita?"

Yu is "no, but I want one"
Shadow is "no, and I don't want one"
Kat is "yes" or "I like boobs"


There's no way half this site wants or has a Vita.
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#211 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/29/2013 10:39:20 PM | message detail
i think anyone who has played P4 wants a vita for golden
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#212 | creativename | Posted 7/29/2013 11:10:04 PM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
Missile should be pretty weak. He even finished in last place in this poll:

Literally getting tripled by Dan Hibiki and quadrupled by Little Mac. Magikarp put up 94.16% on Missile, although some of those characters underperformed because there were no pictures for that poll. Characters who can be instantly recognized by their name alone overperformed in that poll. Magikarp is a character that doesn't need a picture here, as the voters are going to recognize him just by his name alone.

*takes off sunglasses*

Mother of god...
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#213 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/29/2013 11:29:09 PM | message detail
Was the Mario/Shadow match ever explained...?
#214 | MoogleKupo141 | Posted 7/29/2013 11:33:37 PM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
Was the Mario/Shadow match ever explained...?


Shadow is a lot more appealing when you're 14 and before he had that terrible solo game. The site grew up and realized he wasn't cool.

also it may have been a sort of proxy for a Somic/Mario match
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#215 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 7/29/2013 11:39:56 PM | message detail
Guys

guys

Let me point out something for a second

Shadow the Hedgehog

Is under 50% against the MASSIVE AND CONVINCING combined power of the Vita and Persona 4

Let's just rename him Shadow the Bombhog already and be done with it pls
#216 | MoogleKupo141 | Posted 7/29/2013 11:41:44 PM | message detail
Shadow the Hedgehog is the Linkin Park of video game characters.
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#217 | creativename | Posted 7/29/2013 11:46:20 PM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
Was the Mario/Shadow match ever explained...?


That Mario wasn't the current Mario.

The important thing is how the Mario franchise blew up in 2K5. Mario beat Crono down in 2K4

For Shadow, voters in that fight used him as Sonic proxy since we never got Mario vs. Sonic.
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#218 | swirIdude | Posted 7/30/2013 12:25:09 AM | message detail | (edited)
The important thing is how the Mario franchise blew up in 2K5. Mario beat Crono down in 2K4

You've either got that last number wrong or some very questionable revisionist history.

Speaking of history:

Finally there's Crono, who has the toughest way, because despite Tom Nook being a pushover, a hard fight (Kefka) is worth a million average fights.
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#219 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 7/30/2013 12:25:08 AM | message detail
swirIdude posted...
The important thing is how the Mario franchise blew up in 2K5. Mario beat Crono down in 2K4

You've either got that last number wrong or some very questionable revisionist history.


To be fair though, Mario/Crono 2k4 is a sneakily nonsensical contest result. There's absolutely no reason for Crono to have pushed out such a dominant win after an even match with Mario the previous year, and a history of losses.
#220 | creativename | Posted 7/30/2013 12:25:13 AM | message detail
swirIdude posted...
The important thing is how the Mario franchise blew up in 2K5. Mario beat Crono down in 2K4

You've either got that last number wrong or some very questionable revisionist history.


Typo, you knew what I meant :) 2K4 Mario=weak, 2K5 Mario fails urine test. Fined 26 golden coins by Commissioner Princess.
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#221 | creativename | Posted 7/30/2013 12:32:45 AM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
To be fair though, Mario/Crono 2k4 is a sneakily nonsensical contest result. There's absolutely no reason for Crono to have pushed out such a dominant win after an even match with Mario the previous year, and a history of losses.

SMB appeared to be on downward trend, much like FF7 now except not as drastic. So there's nothing "sneaky" about that result - Mario simply was not that strong in the first 3 contests, and particularly weak that year. Hence a lot of people picked Samus to beat Mario.

It took a huge rally from another site, ridiculous vote totals and Sunshine being released that day (IIRC Sunshine released that day) just to beat Cloud.

And in 2K3 Ceej had to completely blow it for Mario to win - there was not a single 24 hour portion of the match that he won, in terms of official updates. But Ceej let the match go on just because Mario was making a comeback. It was absurd and I cannot fathom what Ceej's thought process was there.
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#222 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/30/2013 1:54:13 AM | message detail
Perfect Chaos vs Yu who you got
#223 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 7/30/2013 1:55:45 AM | message detail
God bless you CJayC.
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#224 | ffmasterjose | Posted 7/30/2013 2:21:41 AM | message detail
Looks like this will be my first perfect Round 1 Division

damn :(
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#225 | --Smurf-- | Posted 7/30/2013 2:25:09 AM | message detail
Jakyl25 posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Nah, I'm pretty sure GameFAQs doesn't have that many people who played Persona 4 oddly enough. Which is just shameful, but whatcha gonna do?


This site really is just populated by people who stopped playing games after 2006 isn't it?


Whatever about the site its kind of weird reading through this thread and seeing people who haven't heard of the vita's best game, label it as a "psp" game, hear Kat's fanbase likened to a touhou characters (???) and have Persona 4 labelled as an "obscure" game. If thats a window into the informed part of Gamefaqs I shudder at the thought of the gaming habits for the average voter.
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#226 | --Smurf-- | Posted 7/30/2013 2:28:46 AM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
swirIdude posted...
The important thing is how the Mario franchise blew up in 2K5. Mario beat Crono down in 2K4

You've either got that last number wrong or some very questionable revisionist history.


To be fair though, Mario/Crono 2k4 is a sneakily nonsensical contest result. There's absolutely no reason for Crono to have pushed out such a dominant win after an even match with Mario the previous year, and a history of losses.


There was a reason, the votals took a nosedive which made the more niche characters look a lot better. It was a theme throughout the contest.
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#227 | Lopen | Posted 7/30/2013 2:31:03 AM | message detail
Protip Smurf no one cares about the Vita. This isn't a GameFAQs epidemic this is the general public. Stop deluding yourself.

I mean there are definitely things to say GameFAQs is behind the times on but pick your battles here lest you make a fool of yourself again
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#228 | --Smurf-- | Posted 7/30/2013 2:36:09 AM | message detail
Lopen posted...
Protip Smurf no one cares about the Vita. This isn't a GameFAQs epidemic this is the general public. Stop deluding yourself.

I mean there are definitely things to say GameFAQs is behind the times on but pick your battles here lest you make a fool of yourself again


I don't care about the Xbox yet I know what Halo is. (I don't have a vita either)
There's a not so subtle difference between being uninterested and being uninformed. I'm sure we'll revisit this topic again on your next touhou character analysis.
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#229 | Achromatic | Posted 7/30/2013 2:38:19 AM | message detail
Halo is one of the most popular game franchises ever, Gravity Rush maybe sold 250,000 copies. I am going to cut Lopen some slack for not knowing which sony handheld it was on, and I do own a Vita.
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#230 | Lopen | Posted 7/30/2013 2:58:28 AM | message detail | (edited)
I actually did in fact know what Gravity Rush's handheld was I just typoed Vita as PSP! (largely because mentally I call the PSVita the PSP Vita-- yes I realize that's incorrect)

And honestly Kat is looking weaker than Reimu was so I'm not sure what you're even getting at here? If Gravity Rush was such a Halolike smash hit you'd think she'd be able to outdo a Touhou, ya know?
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#231 | Lopen | Posted 7/30/2013 3:05:06 AM | message detail
Also should be noted that I pretty much nailed the percentage on Kat and on Reimu (the latter being projected for sub 10% by many people before the match) for both of their matches. I think I'm one the last people you should call "uninformed" on this type of topic since the results for the random anime girl third wheels are going very close to how I expect here!
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#232 | Achromatic | Posted 7/30/2013 3:06:46 AM | message detail
Yeah! Don't question Lopen's dedication to underage girls!
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#233 | Lopen | Posted 7/30/2013 3:07:53 AM | message detail
Dammit I left myself open to that didn't I...

I'm just glad meisnewbie isn't here
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#234 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/30/2013 3:21:45 AM | message detail
Lopen posted...
I actually did in fact know what Gravity Rush's handheld was I just typoed Vita as PSP! (largely because mentally I call the PSVita the PSP Vita-- yes I realize that's incorrect)

And honestly Kat is looking weaker than Reimu was so I'm not sure what you're even getting at here? If Gravity Rush was such a Halolike smash hit you'd think she'd be able to outdo a Touhou, ya know?


I heard that Touhou has achieved "cash cow franchise" status in Japan.

Makes sense since the series is so huge.
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#235 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/30/2013 3:50:45 AM | message detail | (edited)
ChenKenichiFan posted...
Many of the regulars here had sold or otherwise abandoned their Wii consoles by the time Skyward Sword hit. It's also probably the most love-it-or-hate-it Zelda game since Zelda II. I'm personally a huge fan, but the game is very onerous of the Wii's motion-controls, and well... I guess motion controls just aren't for everyone.

Still should be plenty enough for Groose though. It's a freakin Zelda game against Tekken and Dynasty Warriors.


Weren't we all saying something similar for N, being "it's a freakin Pokemon character against Bayonetta"? On the one hand, you could say that Bayonetta is probably a bigger name on this site than Tekken or Dynasty Warriors, on the other hand recent characters like Groose have bombed all contest so far without exception.

Heck, what about Midna vs. Scorpion back in 2007 - Zelda right after a major game release vs. Mortal Kombat at its least popular time!
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#236 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/30/2013 3:54:43 AM | message detail
Then00bAvenger posted...
The idea of Yoshimitsu being more well known than an actual historic figure is weird to me.

Not that I'm doubting that's the case on GameFAQs, but yeah


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#237 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/30/2013 3:54:53 AM | message detail
hellfire104 posted...
Who in the heck let that picture of Zidane pass? Barely even looks like Zidane!


This.
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#238 | Fr0zoN | Posted 7/30/2013 4:12:50 AM | message detail
That picture made me wonder if Zidane was a girl or not
#239 | MegamanX | Posted 7/30/2013 4:29:05 AM | message detail
I threw away my vote by giving it to Kat just because Gravity Rush was amazing and she was awesome as well in All Stars
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#240 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 7/30/2013 4:42:42 AM | message detail
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Weren't we all saying something similar for N, being "it's a freakin Pokemon character against Bayonetta"? On the one hand, you could say that Bayonetta is probably a bigger name on this site than Tekken or Dynasty Warriors, on the other hand recent characters like Groose have bombed all contest so far without exception.

Heck, what about Midna vs. Scorpion back in 2007 - Zelda right after a major game release vs. Mortal Kombat at its least popular time!


I think the difference here is that nobody really has any faith in Groose's opponents. I think most people here would pick Bayonetta over Groose, but Groose's competition here isn't that stellar, though there's still a good possibility one of them will win.
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#241 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 7/30/2013 4:46:33 AM | message detail
2k3 was weird in a lot of ways. Look at f***ing Magus.

Hell, I wonder if 2003 Link really was weaker than his other iterations. His only non-SFF matches that contest were Magus and Cloud, and he looked like a chump for both of those.

Also, ten years later, after all the wonderful 90% blowouts we've seen, it's hilarious that the two 90% matches we had so far were from Mewtwo and Zidane.
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#242 | LeonhartFone | Posted 7/30/2013 6:44:26 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
If the majority of Yu's playerbase was aware of his name he could be winning this match outright

I love Persona 4 and I didn't know he was the Persona 4 guy until the match picture went up


Yeah, I felt the same way. I'm in the middle of playing the game and had no idea he was the P4 MC until someone told me.
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#243 | swordz9 | Posted 7/30/2013 6:47:39 AM | message detail
So I think Chie is going to end up having more votes than Yu ends up with, but Yu likely looks stronger since Shadow should be stronger than non-rally Draven and Jak.
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#244 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/30/2013 7:02:11 AM | message detail
Match XLIV: (4) Leon Kennedy vs. (15) Albert Wesker vs. (24) Oliver

Previous Contest

Leon Kennedy – 2010
60.81% against Vault Boy
64.81% against Sackboy
43.12% against Ryu

Albert Wesker – 2010
49.68% against Ken

Oliver – N/A
N/A

Analysis

Wesker finally showed he had some strength and then he gets placed against Leon, thanks SBAllen. I do not mind that Wesker got placed in an unwinnable match, the problem is when he is given one of the worst opponents he could get, this is Resident Evil, not Nintendo where avoiding everyone is hard to do.

Another problem is we will not get a proper measurement for Leon until next round. With Resident Evil 4 getting older it is possible that he may be weaker now, but given his opponents it would have to be quite the drop to lose next round and those guys are not exactly immune from getting weaker either.

Despite the probable SFF I still feel Wesker will finish ahead of Oliver. Oliver’s game just recently came to North America and I do not see him having much strength. Also I do not see Leon SFF Wesker to the degree Link does to Ganondorf as people do like Wesker for Wesker and not that he is a Resident Evil proxy.

Leon should have no problem breaking into the 50s and breaking 60% is also possible, especially if he really stomps Wesker into the ground. I feel Wesker will hold Leon better than the average Nintendo character, but his performance will be subpar.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Leon Kennedy > Albert Wesker and Oliver

charmander6000’s Prediction: Leon Kennedy – 58.63%, Albert Wesker – 26.55%, Oliver – 14.82%
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#245 | Thesingerofstar | Posted 7/30/2013 7:07:24 AM | message detail
Wow, Shadow is beating Yu. I didn't know these boards were so tasteless.
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#246 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/30/2013 7:12:43 AM | message detail
I think it's more "people know who shadow the hedgehog is and haven't played the other two niche games" than "people actually like shadow the hedgehog"
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#247 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/30/2013 7:16:46 AM | message detail | (edited)
Not_Wylvane posted...
2k3 was weird in a lot of ways. Look at f***ing Magus.

Hell, I wonder if 2003 Link really was weaker than his other iterations. His only non-SFF matches that contest were Magus and Cloud, and he looked like a chump for both of those.

Also, ten years later, after all the wonderful 90% blowouts we've seen, it's hilarious that the two 90% matches we had so far were from Mewtwo and Zidane.


I can think of two possible reasons for Link possibly being weakest in 2003:

-Anti-voting the defending champion, especially since he won so easily the year before.
-Wind Waker hate.

The latter part being especially weird - I'd take Wind Waker over Chrono Trigger in a contest match now. At the very least, Wind Waker would be guaranteed to break 40%, probably even good for 45%
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#248 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/30/2013 7:14:26 AM | message detail
If the contest was about "better character" Link and Crono would be weaker than Ramza
Hell, Miles Edgeworth might be a Noble Nine character
#249 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/30/2013 7:15:46 AM | message detail
Epona would still be doing good though

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#250 | pjbasis | Posted 7/30/2013 7:15:51 AM | message detail
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