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ecksgem posted...

As far as pic sabotage goes, it kind of bugs me that some people are so adamant about some characters but it seems like a vast majority don't even care about a smiling Squall. Not that it's the same as some others, but still.

Just saying, be fair!

Hilarious pics are fair game, apparently.

But Zen has since apologized to me for Smilin' Squall and has repented of his wicked pic sabotaging ways.
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ecksgem posted...

As far as pic sabotage goes, it kind of bugs me that some people are so adamant about some characters but it seems like a vast majority don't even care about a smiling Squall. Not that it's the same as some others, but still.

Just saying, be fair!

People would care more if he'd actually ever lost with Smiling Squall. Winning solves a lot of things, it's why Sprite Snake sees so much use to this day.

Meanwhile, when's the last time we've seen Link in a match where he exclusively had his Wind Waker design?

2003.
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Sprite Snake still inspires a lot of rage, but yeah, it'd be worse if he'd ever lost a match with it.
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What are the chances of Wesker pulling off the upset against Leon?

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IX: Link-VV-BB-SS-Cloud-Sora-Samus-Mario-Zard

Oh man, I just realized I never did the chart for yesterday's day match.

Time | Jack | Frog | Joe | Votes
0:05 | 24.34% | 49.85% | 25.81% | 341
1:00 | 23.64% | 50.50% | 25.86% | 4598
2:00 | 25.78% | 48.41% | 25.81% | 3499
3:00 | 23.57% | 49.73% | 26.70% | 2970
4:00 | 22.51% | 52.00% | 25.49% | 2577
5:00 | 25.61% | 48.41% | 25.98% | 2417
6:00 | 23.96% | 50.70% | 25.35% | 2229
7:00 | 24.01% | 51.42% | 24.57% | 1970
8:00 | 24.69% | 50.85% | 24.47% | 1827
9:00 | 23.45% | 51.58% | 24.97% | 1714
10:00 | 24.46% | 51.14% | 24.40% | 1627
11:00 | 24.81% | 48.75% | 26.44% | 1596
12:00 | 23.97% | 49.13% | 26.90% | 1498

This is what happens in matches with no ASV. Stable Chrono Trigger characters during the day. Day matches have had virtually no swings this year. Even with Protoman's "near" comeback, that was still only cutting 250 votes, and he didn't even start cutting until after the ASV would normally end. Also, despite Joe and Jack being within 400~ votes all day long, Jack only wins two hours against him and both by less than 10 votes.

X-Stats:

Frog – 50.00%
Viewtiful Joe – 33.84%
Handsome Jack – 32.54%

Frog's prediction percentage was 40.96%
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Dilated Chemist posted...

What are the chances of Wesker pulling off the upset against Leon?

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In the general vicinity of zero.
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IX: Link-VV-BB-SS-Cloud-Sora-Samus-Mario-Zard

Now for the night match chart:

Time | Sly | York | Lugia | Votes
0:05 | 27.46% | 9.63% | 62.91% | 488
1:00 | 29.21% | 11.02% | 59.77% | 4539
2:00 | 28.65% | 11.78% | 59.57% | 2674
3:00 | 29.04% | 11.70% | 59.26% | 2094
4:00 | 30.10% | 11.27% | 58.62% | 1641
5:00 | 26.03% | 13.55% | 60.43% | 1314
6:00 | 25.13% | 13.74% | 61.14% | 1194
7:00 | 24.46% | 13.07% | 62.48% | 1194
8:00 | 29.49% | 12.07% | 58.44% | 1292
9:00 | 29.23% | 12.32% | 58.45% | 1420
10:00 | 30.99% | 12.67% | 56.34% | 1649
11:00 | 28.49% | 11.71% | 59.80% | 1836
12:00 | 28.70% | 11.87% | 59.42% | 1634

How bad do you have to be to lose the Euro night vote to a Pokemon? Sly Cooper bad, apparently.

X-Stats:

Lugia – 50.00%
Sly Cooper – 32.48%
Francis York Morgan – 16.77%

Lugia's prediction percentage was 42.40%
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Question
Do you think that now,in 2013,Samus will be weaker with a ZSS pic?

I don't think people care as much about Smiling Squall, because I don't think it's really a bad picture.
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LOLContests posted...

I don't think people care as much about Smiling Squall, because I don't think it's really a bad picture.

The one he got against Auron was fine.

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb8/cb8-110.jpg

The one he got against Sora was completely derpy.

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-43.jpg
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Is there a place that keeps all the match pics..>?

Nanis23 posted...

Is there a place that keeps all the match pics..>?

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php

Right there.
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Oh lol
I tried http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb8/ and it gave my forbidden so I gave up


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/1769
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That's a bit extreme..but Snake was weaker back then too
I mean,who would take Megaman to even get 45% on Snake nowdays?

Nanis23 posted...

Oh lol
I tried http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb8/ and it gave my forbidden so I gave up

This is the correct link to view pictures for Character Battle VIII:

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=12
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.

Yeah, that Jack/Joe/Frog match made me notice how completely static day matches have been with no ASV. In the GOTD there were several noticeable swings (especially in close matches, think about KH/KHII, P4/DR etc.) but now the only change seems to occur in the final hours, if at all.
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Today's match has slightly more votes than the CATS match at this point in time. The CATS match had 11120 votes, while this match has 11153 votes right now.
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Stupid confession- for some reason I thought "Luca Blight" is Lucca from Chrono Trigger
No idea why I thought so,because there is no way she would make it in before Marle/Ayla/Lavos

I believe FFX was pic sabotaged against MM because there were too many pics of Tidus and Link, and if there'd been more pics of, say, locations in the games, FFX would have won. No this isn't rational and I don't care.

It's easy to blame a loss for an entrant you like on external factors beyond "they just weren't strong enough to win". Although I do actually think an FFX/MM rematch in the next games contest would be really interesting to see.
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Marle made it in once and lost 70/30 to Aeris.
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Kotetsu534 posted...

I believe FFX was pic sabotaged against MM because there were too many pics of Tidus and Link, and if there'd been more pics of, say, locations in the games, FFX would have won. No this isn't rational and I don't care.

It's easy to blame a loss for an entrant you like on external factors beyond "they just weren't strong enough to win". Although I do actually think an FFX/MM rematch in the next games contest would be really interesting to see.

Melee factor>FFX pics

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/spc2k4/spr04b56.jpg

That one's always a keeper
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Then00bAvenger posted...

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/spc2k4/spr04b56.jpg

That one's always a keeper

Being totally objective as I have not even played FFX
This is really not fair picture...

Dante is doing very good.He might finish with above 60%!I guess Squirtle winning isn't a lock then.
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I'm still sad that Lucca never made it in back when CronoTrigger characters could be strong.

And I don't view the sprite round as pic sabotage. To win a contest, you have to be popular through a variety of challenges. One of those challenges is a sprite pack. It's Snake's weakness and it's completely legit.

And Samus's weakness is for her to be seen outside of her varia suit. Makes sense.
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I can totally see having a close match with all character getting a bad picture then there is ragestorm about "who got the worst picture"

Sprite Snake vs Smiling Squall VS Zero Suit Samus

TheOneAboveAll posted...

I'm still sad that Lucca never made it in back when CronoTrigger characters could be strong.

And I don't view the sprite round as pic sabotage. To win a contest, you have to be popular through a variety of challenges. One of those challenges is a sprite pack. It's Snake's weakness and it's completely legit.

This is absurd because it's ludicrously arbitrary. No one has ever thought "we'll use the sprite round midway through a contest as one of the challenges necessary to win the contest", it's a stylistic format. This is textbook moving the goalposts, the conventional wisdom shifting from 'Snake's sprite obviously doesn't hurt him, who doesn't know who Solid Snake is' to 'well obviously it's just one of those things that everyone has to deal with', which is flatly untrue. Even Snake's PSX model, like those of his PS-era peers, would be preferable to the sabotage he gets stuck with year after year.
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Karma Hunter posted...

TheOneAboveAll posted...

I'm still sad that Lucca never made it in back when CronoTrigger characters could be strong.

And I don't view the sprite round as pic sabotage. To win a contest, you have to be popular through a variety of challenges. One of those challenges is a sprite pack. It's Snake's weakness and it's completely legit.

This is absurd because it's ludicrously arbitrary. No one has ever thought "we'll use the sprite round midway through a contest as one of the challenges necessary to win the contest", it's a stylistic format. This is textbook moving the goalposts, the conventional wisdom shifting from 'Snake's sprite obviously doesn't hurt him, who doesn't know who Solid Snake is' to 'well obviously it's just one of those things that everyone has to deal with', which is flatly untrue. Even Snake's PSX model, like those of his PS-era peers, would be preferable to the sabotage he gets stuck with year after year.

Yes, it is arbitrary. But it's something we've had throughout contest history. It's not like Ceej or Allen ever looked at a bracket, said, "Hmm, who will meet in a round where a certain type of picture could make a huge difference?" and then adjust it contest-by-contest. The sprite round is the third round. It's just like the switch from group play to single-elimination at the World Cup. It's like not having a uniform stadium for baseball. Heck, it's like switching from 12-hour matches to 24-hour matches halfway through this contest.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/66844922

Well, go voice your opinions here!
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TheOneAboveAll posted...

Karma Hunter posted...

TheOneAboveAll posted...

I'm still sad that Lucca never made it in back when CronoTrigger characters could be strong.

And I don't view the sprite round as pic sabotage. To win a contest, you have to be popular through a variety of challenges. One of those challenges is a sprite pack. It's Snake's weakness and it's completely legit.

This is absurd because it's ludicrously arbitrary. No one has ever thought "we'll use the sprite round midway through a contest as one of the challenges necessary to win the contest", it's a stylistic format. This is textbook moving the goalposts, the conventional wisdom shifting from 'Snake's sprite obviously doesn't hurt him, who doesn't know who Solid Snake is' to 'well obviously it's just one of those things that everyone has to deal with', which is flatly untrue. Even Snake's PSX model, like those of his PS-era peers, would be preferable to the sabotage he gets stuck with year after year.

Yes, it is arbitrary. But it's something we've had throughout contest history. It's not like Ceej or Allen ever looked at a bracket, said, "Hmm, who will meet in a round where a certain type of picture could make a huge difference?" and then adjust it contest-by-contest. The sprite round is the third round. It's just like the switch from group play to single-elimination at the World Cup. It's like not having a uniform stadium for baseball. Heck, it's like switching from 12-hour matches to 24-hour matches halfway through this contest.

That's also arbitrary - and it's cost characters matches both this year and others. I don't like it, but at least we know ahead of time what matches are in the day and which are in the night.

Sprite round's not like that at least in one extremely critical way - it's not always the third round. It got pushed to the fourth round back when Snake v Bowser went down, conveniently for him to nearly get dragged down against a guy he would have easily curbstomped in an equal match.
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TheOneAboveAll posted...

Karma Hunter posted...

TheOneAboveAll posted...

I'm still sad that Lucca never made it in back when CronoTrigger characters could be strong.

And I don't view the sprite round as pic sabotage. To win a contest, you have to be popular through a variety of challenges. One of those challenges is a sprite pack. It's Snake's weakness and it's completely legit.

This is absurd because it's ludicrously arbitrary. No one has ever thought "we'll use the sprite round midway through a contest as one of the challenges necessary to win the contest", it's a stylistic format. This is textbook moving the goalposts, the conventional wisdom shifting from 'Snake's sprite obviously doesn't hurt him, who doesn't know who Solid Snake is' to 'well obviously it's just one of those things that everyone has to deal with', which is flatly untrue. Even Snake's PSX model, like those of his PS-era peers, would be preferable to the sabotage he gets stuck with year after year.

Yes, it is arbitrary. But it's something we've had throughout contest history. It's not like Ceej or Allen ever looked at a bracket, said, "Hmm, who will meet in a round where a certain type of picture could make a huge difference?" and then adjust it contest-by-contest. The sprite round is the third round. It's just like the switch from group play to single-elimination at the World Cup. It's like not having a uniform stadium for baseball. Heck, it's like switching from 12-hour matches to 24-hour matches halfway through this contest.

But it's not fair,as not all characters get the same treatmant from the picture
Imagine Megaman Sprite vs Snake Sprite
Even Sephiroth and Cloud are hurted by it
EVEN CHARIZARD
Just think what would happen if this was Charizard sprite!!
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/5/59/Spr_1g_006.png

Didn't 2008 not even have a sprite round? I remember it wasn't the 3rd round because I really wanted to see how awful Duke and Gordon's pics would be.
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 7/28/2013 2:24:59 PM | #252

Meanwhile, when's the last time we've seen Link in a match where he exclusively had his Wind Waker design?

2003.

i submitted one of those in 2010 too! and it was against Luigi so it couldn't have mattered, but Bacon still refused.
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Why do people never use Snake's much-better GBC sprite anyway?

Or heck, take his SNES-style one from the Smash Kingdom videos.
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Karma Hunter posted...

TheOneAboveAll posted...

Karma Hunter posted...

TheOneAboveAll posted...

I'm still sad that Lucca never made it in back when CronoTrigger characters could be strong.

And I don't view the sprite round as pic sabotage. To win a contest, you have to be popular through a variety of challenges. One of those challenges is a sprite pack. It's Snake's weakness and it's completely legit.

This is absurd because it's ludicrously arbitrary. No one has ever thought "we'll use the sprite round midway through a contest as one of the challenges necessary to win the contest", it's a stylistic format. This is textbook moving the goalposts, the conventional wisdom shifting from 'Snake's sprite obviously doesn't hurt him, who doesn't know who Solid Snake is' to 'well obviously it's just one of those things that everyone has to deal with', which is flatly untrue. Even Snake's PSX model, like those of his PS-era peers, would be preferable to the sabotage he gets stuck with year after year.

Yes, it is arbitrary. But it's something we've had throughout contest history. It's not like Ceej or Allen ever looked at a bracket, said, "Hmm, who will meet in a round where a certain type of picture could make a huge difference?" and then adjust it contest-by-contest. The sprite round is the third round. It's just like the switch from group play to single-elimination at the World Cup. It's like not having a uniform stadium for baseball. Heck, it's like switching from 12-hour matches to 24-hour matches halfway through this contest.

That's also arbitrary - and it's cost characters matches both this year and others. I don't like it, but at least we know ahead of time what matches are in the day and which are in the night.

Sprite round's not like that at least in one extremely critical way - it's not always the third round. It got pushed to the fourth round back when Snake v Bowser went down, conveniently for him to nearly get dragged down against a guy he would have easily curbstomped in an equal match.

Bowser got 58% on Ryu that year and didn't have a great sprite himself. He was legit.
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LeonhartFour posted...

Also the only guys you should automatically bet against in debated matches simply because they are THAT character are Magus and Shadow.

*bracket has Magus > Otacon*

*bracket also has Shadow > Yu*

...Oh.

Thankfully I have Otacon over Magus.

As for Shadow, what has he actually messed up in before? No shame in losing to Final Fantasy protagonists and Amaterasu I don't think. Plus with Sonic on the upswing and Shadow standing out pretty well in that pic...
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Karma Hunter posted...

ecksgem posted...

As far as pic sabotage goes, it kind of bugs me that some people are so adamant about some characters but it seems like a vast majority don't even care about a smiling Squall. Not that it's the same as some others, but still.

Just saying, be fair!

People would care more if he'd actually ever lost with Smiling Squall. Winning solves a lot of things, it's why Sprite Snake sees so much use to this day.

Meanwhile, when's the last time we've seen Link in a match where he exclusively had his Wind Waker design?

2003.

What's supposed to be so bad about Squall smiling? People want to see him emo all the time I guess.
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The Sprite Round is objectively a bad thing and there's no good argument for keeping it. It all depends on whether or not people are okay with that for the sake of tradition.
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dethfdddddh posted...

Karma Hunter posted...

TheOneAboveAll posted...

Karma Hunter posted...

TheOneAboveAll posted...

I'm still sad that Lucca never made it in back when CronoTrigger characters could be strong.

And I don't view the sprite round as pic sabotage. To win a contest, you have to be popular through a variety of challenges. One of those challenges is a sprite pack. It's Snake's weakness and it's completely legit.

This is absurd because it's ludicrously arbitrary. No one has ever thought "we'll use the sprite round midway through a contest as one of the challenges necessary to win the contest", it's a stylistic format. This is textbook moving the goalposts, the conventional wisdom shifting from 'Snake's sprite obviously doesn't hurt him, who doesn't know who Solid Snake is' to 'well obviously it's just one of those things that everyone has to deal with', which is flatly untrue. Even Snake's PSX model, like those of his PS-era peers, would be preferable to the sabotage he gets stuck with year after year.

Yes, it is arbitrary. But it's something we've had throughout contest history. It's not like Ceej or Allen ever looked at a bracket, said, "Hmm, who will meet in a round where a certain type of picture could make a huge difference?" and then adjust it contest-by-contest. The sprite round is the third round. It's just like the switch from group play to single-elimination at the World Cup. It's like not having a uniform stadium for baseball. Heck, it's like switching from 12-hour matches to 24-hour matches halfway through this contest.

That's also arbitrary - and it's cost characters matches both this year and others. I don't like it, but at least we know ahead of time what matches are in the day and which are in the night.

Sprite round's not like that at least in one extremely critical way - it's not always the third round. It got pushed to the fourth round back when Snake v Bowser went down, conveniently for him to nearly get dragged down against a guy he would have easily curbstomped in an equal match.

Bowser got 58% on Ryu that year and didn't have a great sprite himself. He was legit.

...everyone Bowser facing that year getting exposed, himself chiefly among them, didn't put this to rest? Bowser is so preposterously overrated in 2005 that it's hard to overstate - oh, wait, we can just compare it to Frog 2004 and Pikachu 2010. I wonder if there's a pattern there...
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Nanis23 posted...

Question
Do you think that now,in 2013,Samus will be weaker with a ZSS pic?

If it was from Other M yes. Even I dislike ZSS's character model there and I'm a huge fan of that game. If it was from Brawl no, but that might be biased since I'm a huge fan of ZSS there (and Samus is my favorite character anyway).
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Xeybozn posted...

Didn't 2008 not even have a sprite round? I remember it wasn't the 3rd round because I really wanted to see how awful Duke and Gordon's pics would be.

I have a feeling that Gordon making the third round was precisely what caused the sprite round to take a vacation.

Not to mention if the theme was first appearance again, you'd be staring at Samus's NES sprite vs. Ganon's NES sprite vs. Vincent's PSX model vs. Gordon's match pic from the 2002/3 contests.

In hindsight, what was the problem with Gordon's pic in the 2002/3 contests? It looks pretty cool to me. I'd definitely vote for someone in bulky power armor over a scantily-clad chick or some gunman in a suit any day. Then again maybe I have too much of a soft spot for power-armored characters.
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LinkMarioSamus posted...

Nanis23 posted...

Question
Do you think that now,in 2013,Samus will be weaker with a ZSS pic?

If it was from Other M yes. Even I dislike ZSS's character model there and I'm a huge fan of that game. If it was from Brawl no, but that might be biased since I'm a huge fan of ZSS there (and Samus is my favorite character anyway).

Why are you so obsessed with Other M? Stop posting about it all the time.
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Fast Falcon ate my bracket for dinner in the guru contest.

Hm..ah..I can't tell the difference between the 2 versions of the Zero Suit..?

But why do people care about Dante more? It's in very large part because of his design, how that cool design evokes feelings from his fans, and when you do something to detract from that, it hurts him disproportionately.

Dante's character design isn't important because it appeals to fans. It's important because it appeals to non-fans! That's why he's more popular than his games.

And reading this topic, people seem to be misusing sabotage:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabotage

Sabotage is a deliberate action aimed at weakening another entity through subversion, obstruction, disruption, or destruction.

Snake getting a Solid **** sprite is not sabotage. He has to get a Sprite pic if it's the theme of the round. As long as the theme was not created to screw over Snake (Hint: It wasn't.) it's not sabotage. Same with someone using a picture that you don't personally like. If the person has no ulterior motives it's clearly not sabotage. Ceej using a Toon Link pic against Cloud in 2003 was not sabotage. Ceej was clearly intent on using Link's most recent iteration throughout the contest. He was not deliberately trying to screw over Link, that we know of.
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dethfdddddh posted...

LinkMarioSamus posted...

Nanis23 posted...

Question
Do you think that now,in 2013,Samus will be weaker with a ZSS pic?

If it was from Other M yes. Even I dislike ZSS's character model there and I'm a huge fan of that game. If it was from Brawl no, but that might be biased since I'm a huge fan of ZSS there (and Samus is my favorite character anyway).

Why are you so obsessed with Other M? Stop posting about it all the time.

...I started replaying it this morning lol. Even then, I was just answering a question there.
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