Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1081

#151 | Safer_777 | Posted 7/28/2013 9:19:49 AM | message detail
So only 1 zero bracket remains.Amazing.I wonder where he will fail?Does he posts in this board?
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#152 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 7/28/2013 9:21:27 AM | message detail
He'll do better on Laharl than Sora did at least. It's not that bad. Sora does pretty decent
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#153 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 7/28/2013 9:23:52 AM | message detail
Dante is currently above what the SFF-adjusted 2010 stats expect him to get on Laharl. Not bad.
#154 | tennisboy213 | Posted 7/28/2013 9:24:15 AM | message detail
Squirtle is by far the best newcomer this year. This got me wondering, when was the last time there was a newcomer as strong as Squirtle?
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#155 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/28/2013 9:24:33 AM | message detail
L-Block?
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#156 | vcharon | Posted 7/28/2013 9:24:55 AM | message detail
Charizard... >_>
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#157 | xp1337 | Posted 7/28/2013 9:25:02 AM | message detail
Missingno?
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#158 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/28/2013 9:25:38 AM | message detail
Also, we have a freaking ridiculous amount of Pokemon that people want to rally in. Here's the list so far:

Blastoise, Blaziken, Bulbasaur, Ditto, Dragonite, Eevee,
Gardevoir, Gyarados, Ivysaur, Meowth, Mew, Pichu,
Poliwhirl, Psyduck, Raichu, Rayquaza, Salamence,
Scyther, Snorlax, Togepi, Typholsion, Umbreon, Zubat

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#159 | Karma Hunter | Posted 7/28/2013 9:29:05 AM | message detail | (edited)
Dante will be doing fine by the end of this match, he doesn't have a good board vote. There's no way to tell when Charizard's overperformances fully kicked in, either, so I'd take Laharl expectations with a very tiny grain of salt.

Squirtle still has to prove he's capable of contending with Ryu, something easily possible but I find it unlikely enough that I took Dante next round after taking Mewtwo > Vincent.

Edit: Dante could easily be pic sabotaged, in which case I'm putting it all on Squirtle. He tends to get pic-sabotaged, too (which is really lame with any character, guys), so that's definitely a mitigating factor.
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#160 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/28/2013 9:27:59 AM | message detail
Last zero bracket might lose on the Lee Everett/Meat Boy/Game and Watch
Pac Man match might surprise,too
#161 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/28/2013 9:29:21 AM | message detail
ZenOfThunder posted...
Also, we have a freaking ridiculous amount of Pokemon that people want to rally in. Here's the list so far:

Blastoise, Blaziken, Bulbasaur, Ditto, Dragonite, Eevee,
Gardevoir, Gyarados, Ivysaur, Meowth, Mew, Pichu,
Poliwhirl, Psyduck, Raichu, Rayquaza, Salamence,
Scyther, Snorlax, Togepi, Typholsion, Umbreon, Zubat


No one from 4th gen+?
Not even Piplup Arceus and Snivy?
#162 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 7/28/2013 9:30:14 AM | message detail
tennisboy213 posted...
Squirtle is by far the best newcomer this year. This got me wondering, when was the last time there was a newcomer as strong as Squirtle?


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no but seriously, easily L-Block right?
#163 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/28/2013 9:30:21 AM | message detail
Nobody mentioned them, so I guess not.

Let's focus on 1-3 before we get to the new gen. People don't care about them enough. The 5th gen starters were in this year's nom database at the start and STILL couldn't get into a field of over 200
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#164 | spooky96 | Posted 7/28/2013 9:30:45 AM | message detail
ZenOfThunder posted...
Also, we have a freaking ridiculous amount of Pokemon that people want to rally in. Here's the list so far:

Blastoise, Blaziken, Bulbasaur, Ditto, Dragonite, Eevee,
Gardevoir, Gyarados, Ivysaur, Meowth, Mew, Pichu,
Poliwhirl, Psyduck, Raichu, Rayquaza, Salamence,
Scyther, Snorlax, Togepi, Typholsion, Umbreon, Zubat


What? Others are at least popular or at least popular in a gimmick was such as Zubat.
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#165 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 7/28/2013 9:31:03 AM | message detail
By the way, was this the first match in which we had an entirely normal freeze? Hopefully that means that the freeze issues have been fixed.
#166 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/28/2013 9:32:12 AM | message detail
hey man I just curate the list, it don't matter to me if someone wants to rally in a Zubat
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#167 | Kotetsu534 (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/28/2013 9:32:14 AM | message detail
Charizard was a newcomer in 2010.
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#168 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 7/28/2013 9:32:18 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
ZenOfThunder posted...
Also, we have a freaking ridiculous amount of Pokemon that people want to rally in. Here's the list so far:

Blastoise, Blaziken, Bulbasaur, Ditto, Dragonite, Eevee,
Gardevoir, Gyarados, Ivysaur, Meowth, Mew, Pichu,
Poliwhirl, Psyduck, Raichu, Rayquaza, Salamence,
Scyther, Snorlax, Togepi, Typholsion, Umbreon, Zubat


No one from 4th gen+?
Not even Piplup Arceus and Snivy?


who?
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#169 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 7/28/2013 9:32:34 AM | message detail
Even 3rd gen Pokemon aren't likely to have much strength. 4th gen Pokemon and onward will do pretty badly.
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#170 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 7/28/2013 9:32:50 AM | message detail
TheOneAboveAll posted...
By the way, was this the first match in which we had an entirely normal freeze? Hopefully that means that the freeze issues have been fixed.


Squirtle's match to have a 1-minute freeze confirmed
#171 | isNotPerfect | Posted 7/28/2013 9:33:05 AM | message detail
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1 person got it wrong and survived. Former first place and the last perfect bracket to go down isNotPerfect also did not have Lugia winning.


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#172 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 7/28/2013 9:34:18 AM | message detail
The strongest 3rd gen is most assuredly Mudkip.
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#173 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 7/28/2013 9:34:56 AM | message detail | (edited)
Using Sora Vs. Laharl and Sora Vs. Bowser from 2010, Dante would get about 47% on Bowser right now. If he manages to get Laharl under 29.5%, he would be virtually statistically equal with Bowser.

Not saying the match would actually go that way, but i don't see why you'd call this a disappointment.
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#174 | Karma Hunter | Posted 7/28/2013 9:34:52 AM | message detail
ZenOfThunder posted...
hey man I just curate the list, it don't matter to me if someone wants to rally in a Zubat


I swear on everything I hold dear I would rally against Zubat with every fiber of my being

f*** you zubat
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#175 | spooky96 | Posted 7/28/2013 9:34:58 AM | message detail
ZenOfThunder posted...
hey man I just curate the list, it don't matter to me if someone wants to rally in a Zubat


Zubat is awesome and should be rallied >_> That's the gimmick, I mean people hate it from the depth of their hearts, hate it so much that it has become a joke/symbol of annoyance.

Questionable is Poliwhirl, Scyther and Typhlosion. Others are popular/cute/likable mons.
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#176 | tennisboy213 | Posted 7/28/2013 9:35:38 AM | message detail
Kotetsu534 posted...
Charizard was a newcomer in 2010.


I thought he was in before that. Silly me.
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#177 | Kotetsu534 (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/28/2013 9:36:12 AM | message detail
I'm a bit surprised people are considering this a really bad result from Dante. Laharl isn't that bad.
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#178 | Safer_777 | Posted 7/28/2013 9:36:57 AM | message detail
I am all for Zubat!He will do well I believe.
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#179 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/28/2013 9:38:36 AM | message detail | (edited)
Poliwhirl is p big in japan, and I was keeping Scyther off until like 3 people mentioned him for being "so kewl" or w/e

Typhlosion I can't remember why, I think someone said "add a gen 2 starter" and I didn't want to add meganium or feraligatr
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#180 | xp1337 | Posted 7/28/2013 9:37:07 AM | message detail
Kotetsu534 posted...
I'm a bit surprised people are considering this a really bad result from Dante. Laharl isn't that bad.

This started out looking much worse for Dante.
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#181 | abdou | Posted 7/28/2013 9:37:49 AM | message detail
Dante is doing fine now, it was bad when he was at 53% , had no idea Dante has such a terrible board/early vote .
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#182 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 7/28/2013 9:38:17 AM | message detail
There's always some overreaction about Dante getting pic-sabotaged, but I've always had a hard time buying it. Some people acted like his picture against Ryu in 2010 was unfair or intentional sabotage. It was a regular Dante picture. Dante fans always want DMC3 pics because it's their favorite game, not because he looks very different or noticeably better (hell I think he looks at his worst in DMC3, total freakin fruitcake).
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#183 | Karma Hunter | Posted 7/28/2013 9:38:38 AM | message detail
I consider this a good result from Dante (though that's a bit tempered by his tendency to overperform in R1 historically). Squirtle actually has to prove he has strength, certainly not impossible looking at Charizard but Squirtle should be a fair bit below him to say the least (both starters sure, but Charizard was always cooler).
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#184 | The Real Truth | Posted 7/28/2013 9:38:59 AM | message detail
Dante looks great. It's good to know people haven't turned away from him and are likely just ignoring DmC all together. Please for the love of God do not use a DmC Dante pic in the later rounds.
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#185 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/28/2013 9:39:29 AM | message detail
I specifically picked a Dante from a non-DMC game with a design based heavily on DMC2 for this match to see how he'd do

I guess we can analyze if that had any impact on him later
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#186 | The Real Truth | Posted 7/28/2013 9:39:37 AM | message detail
Squirtle is not going to flop. I don't know why people are even considering this.
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#187 | ZinsanityCraze | Posted 7/28/2013 9:39:49 AM | message detail
People giving Squirtle way too much benefit of a doubt when we have virtually zero data on him.

Dante LOST to Leon Kennedy during the power hour!!! He'll end up looking good here against Laharl.
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#188 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 7/28/2013 9:41:48 AM | message detail
Nah, I think if there's any burden of proof in Squirtle/Dante, it's on Dante. Pokemon has been red hot for several contests in a row, and a second-gen Pokemon just got done putting up same damn good numbers. Squirtle has had his boys proving things on his behalf for a good five years now. Dante has to actually prove he can win the debated match. By my count, he's at least 0-for-4 now.
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#189 | Karma Hunter | Posted 7/28/2013 9:41:55 AM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
There's always some overreaction about Dante getting pic-sabotaged, but I've always had a hard time buying it. Some people acted like his picture against Ryu in 2010 was unfair or intentional sabotage. It was a regular Dante picture. Dante fans always want DMC3 pics because it's their favorite game, not because he looks very different or noticeably better (hell I think he looks at his worst in DMC3, total freakin fruitcake).


I'll be blunt - you don't understand the DMC fanbase. People don't get agitated when he gets a picture from DMC 3 or 4 or 1, and he's had plenty from each of them.

When you give him a picture from DMC2 (or to a far greater extent now, the new DmC), that generates feelings of utter REVULSION. Dante's never gotten a non-DMC2 pic in a debatable match either, so this idea of him being a choker is pretty unwarranted too. It's a mini-version of like if Snake had lost all those close calls with Sprite Snake.
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#190 | tennisboy213 | Posted 7/28/2013 9:43:56 AM | message detail
The board vote and power hour will look very ugly for Dante against Squirtle. BTW, is it a night or day match?
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#191 | superange128 | Posted 7/28/2013 9:45:21 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
ChenKenichiFan posted...
There's always some overreaction about Dante getting pic-sabotaged, but I've always had a hard time buying it. Some people acted like his picture against Ryu in 2010 was unfair or intentional sabotage. It was a regular Dante picture. Dante fans always want DMC3 pics because it's their favorite game, not because he looks very different or noticeably better (hell I think he looks at his worst in DMC3, total freakin fruitcake).


I'll be blunt - you don't understand the DMC fanbase. People don't get agitated when he gets a picture from DMC 3 or 4 or 1, and he's had plenty from each of them.

When you give him a picture from DMC2 (or to a far greater extent now, the new DmC), that generates feelings of utter REVULSION. Dante's never gotten a non-DMC2 pic in a debatable match either, so this idea of him being a choker is pretty unwarranted too. It's a mini-version of like if Snake had lost all those close calls with Sprite Snake.


he got his DMC3 pic against Vincent
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#192 | xp1337 | Posted 7/28/2013 9:45:28 AM | message detail
tennisboy213 posted...
The board vote and power hour will look very ugly for Dante against Squirtle. BTW, is it a night or day match?

Dante/Squirtle would be a day match.
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#193 | Karma Hunter | Posted 7/28/2013 9:46:30 AM | message detail
superange128 posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
ChenKenichiFan posted...
There's always some overreaction about Dante getting pic-sabotaged, but I've always had a hard time buying it. Some people acted like his picture against Ryu in 2010 was unfair or intentional sabotage. It was a regular Dante picture. Dante fans always want DMC3 pics because it's their favorite game, not because he looks very different or noticeably better (hell I think he looks at his worst in DMC3, total freakin fruitcake).


I'll be blunt - you don't understand the DMC fanbase. People don't get agitated when he gets a picture from DMC 3 or 4 or 1, and he's had plenty from each of them.

When you give him a picture from DMC2 (or to a far greater extent now, the new DmC), that generates feelings of utter REVULSION. Dante's never gotten a non-DMC2 pic in a debatable match either, so this idea of him being a choker is pretty unwarranted too. It's a mini-version of like if Snake had lost all those close calls with Sprite Snake.


he got his DMC3 pic against Vincent


...Dante's performance on Vincent might have been the best of his career relative to board expectations. Vincent turned out to be a monster.
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#194 | KamikazePotato | Posted 7/28/2013 9:48:06 AM | message detail
Yeah I literally lost all hope for Dante when he drew that awful DMC2 pic against Ryu a few years back. It's blatant pic sabotage and I don't understand why people seem to be okay with it here.
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#195 | tennisboy213 | Posted 7/28/2013 9:48:50 AM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
tennisboy213 posted...
The board vote and power hour will look very ugly for Dante against Squirtle. BTW, is it a night or day match?

Dante/Squirtle would be a day match.


Squirtle should get out to a pretty big lead then(assuming he's as strong as most think)...I don't see Dante being able to come back in a day match.
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#196 | Xuxon | Posted 7/28/2013 9:50:02 AM | message detail
i made Dante's 2010 pic and it wasn't intentional sabotage. i just really like his DMC2 look and am not a fan of the 3 or 4 look. maybe it's because i've only played DMC1.
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#197 | Denzokuken | Posted 7/28/2013 9:50:18 AM | message detail
If Dante needs the right pic to win a debated match, he sucks.
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#198 | ffmasterjose | Posted 7/28/2013 9:51:24 AM | message detail
Just looking ahead, the last half of Round 1 Division 6 is either going to kick my ass or put me close to the leaderboard. Yay >____>
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#199 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 7/28/2013 9:51:34 AM | message detail
Dante needs the DMC3 pic that's looking up at his crotch in every match. Anything else is pic sabotage.
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#200 | Karma Hunter | Posted 7/28/2013 9:51:46 AM | message detail
Denzokuken posted...
If Dante needs the right pic to win a debated match, he sucks.


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