Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1081

#51 | pjbasis | Posted 7/27/2013 9:45:15 PM | message detail
Didn't Snake beat Cloud in Fourways due to FFVII/CT overlap
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#52 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/27/2013 9:46:11 PM | message detail
pjbasis posted...
Didn't Snake beat Cloud in Fourways due to FFVII/CT overlap


Do you read the topic before you post?
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#53 | pjbasis | Posted 7/27/2013 9:46:29 PM | message detail
Not the whole thing no
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#54 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/27/2013 9:48:11 PM | message detail
#55 | pjbasis | Posted 7/27/2013 9:51:18 PM | message detail
I see you mentioning that Snake > Cloud stayed the same since the round before, but Sephiroth was also there.

So what I see is that Cloud beat Snake by a big margin the first time, then lost when Sephiroth or Crono was in the match.
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#56 | EmDubyaSee | Posted 7/27/2013 9:53:39 PM | message detail
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#57 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 7/27/2013 9:53:47 PM | message detail
Then00bAvenger posted...
I just noticed someone had -214 points in the Expert challenge

That's... impressive


Someone was trying to intentionally -6 every match.

Naturally, this failed miserably a few matches ago, as no one was really sure if Kefka would weaken Zack enough to allow Hayabusa into first place or not and therefore the only "sure-fire" way to get a -3 was to pick Kefka. LOL common wisdom.
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#58 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/27/2013 9:54:05 PM | message detail
pjbasis posted...
So what I see is that Cloud beat Snake by a big margin the first time, then lost when Sephiroth or Crono was in the match.


If you want to act like a match where Snake was beating Link for several hours was a legitimate result of Snake only winning because of Cloud/Crono LFF, help yourself.
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#59 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/27/2013 9:54:49 PM | message detail
And the fact that MWC is on your side is probably good indication that you should stop supporting that position!
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#60 | Karma Hunter | Posted 7/27/2013 9:56:10 PM | message detail
hey guys remember when MWC used to pretend that he liked Snake

Pepperidge Farm Remembers
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#61 | pjbasis | Posted 7/27/2013 9:56:49 PM | message detail
He's one of the biggest Kingdom Hearts fans on the board, I've come to accept it
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#62 | EmDubyaSee | Posted 7/27/2013 9:59:11 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
hey guys remember when MWC used to pretend that he liked Snake

Pepperidge Farm Remembers


Come the **** again.



I hate Snake, and literally want every fan he has on Earth to drop the **** dead. He is a mediocre character at best, SURROUNDED by one of if not the best ensemble cast in gaming, in a friggin amazing series. Solid Snake however has 0 redeeming qualities, and he has no right to that with everything he should have going for him.
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#63 | EmDubyaSee | Posted 7/27/2013 9:59:49 PM | message detail
pjbasis posted...
He's one of the biggest Kingdom Hearts fans on the board, I've come to accept it


Anyone who doesn't love KH has issues with their own life.
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MWC is god-tier
#64 | Karma Hunter | Posted 7/27/2013 10:02:07 PM | message detail
EmDubyaSee posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
hey guys remember when MWC used to pretend that he liked Snake

Pepperidge Farm Remembers


Come the **** again.



I hate Snake, and literally want every fan he has on Earth to drop the **** dead. He is a mediocre character at best, SURROUNDED by one of if not the best ensemble cast in gaming, in a friggin amazing series. Solid Snake however has 0 redeeming qualities, and he has no right to that with everything he should have going for him.


Yes, we know

This makes you a petulant liar in the past, but even worse someone with repugnant taste, too

How terrible it will be, fortunately when Snake wins the contest this year you'll be able to come to terms with it hopefully
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#65 | EmDubyaSee | Posted 7/27/2013 10:14:52 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
EmDubyaSee posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
hey guys remember when MWC used to pretend that he liked Snake

Pepperidge Farm Remembers


Come the **** again.



I hate Snake, and literally want every fan he has on Earth to drop the **** dead. He is a mediocre character at best, SURROUNDED by one of if not the best ensemble cast in gaming, in a friggin amazing series. Solid Snake however has 0 redeeming qualities, and he has no right to that with everything he should have going for him.


Yes, we know

This makes you a petulant liar in the past, but even worse someone with repugnant taste, too

How terrible it will be, fortunately when Snake wins the contest this year you'll be able to come to terms with it hopefully


I never acted like I liked Snake. EVER. I've come to hate him more instead of being more indifferent to his mediocrity thanks to this board's stupid ridiculous *** love for him. But I never acted like I liked him. I said I love his series (top 10 for me, [I think it still is, hell if anything it moved up cause RE 6 was so bad)], never denied that. I just hate him.
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#66 | creativename | Posted 7/27/2013 10:22:21 PM | message detail
OK so I'm coming back after a few days and...KEFKA?!?!

His matches truly make no f****** sense. NONE.

Also after this performance, he should be the favorite over Altair and Lara...but given the "Kefka Matches Make No F****** sense" Factor (KMMNFSF?), does he somehow blow it next round? What are we supposed to make of this riddle??

Also I find it hilarious that it seems lots of people who got -4's actually moved up the ranks. That had to be the match with the most -6's to date, by far. And the average score for the match is probably negative.

I've send a feedback ticket to see if we can get an average points per match statistic on the Leaderboards page...doubt it will happen, but if anyone with influence can try to get that stat, it would be cool. Probably be very easy for Allen to add that stat.
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#67 | Karma Hunter | Posted 7/27/2013 10:24:01 PM | message detail
EmDubyaSee posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
EmDubyaSee posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
hey guys remember when MWC used to pretend that he liked Snake

Pepperidge Farm Remembers


Come the **** again.



I hate Snake, and literally want every fan he has on Earth to drop the **** dead. He is a mediocre character at best, SURROUNDED by one of if not the best ensemble cast in gaming, in a friggin amazing series. Solid Snake however has 0 redeeming qualities, and he has no right to that with everything he should have going for him.


Yes, we know

This makes you a petulant liar in the past, but even worse someone with repugnant taste, too

How terrible it will be, fortunately when Snake wins the contest this year you'll be able to come to terms with it hopefully


I never acted like I liked Snake. EVER. I've come to hate him more instead of being more indifferent to his mediocrity thanks to this board's stupid ridiculous *** love for him. But I never acted like I liked him. I said I love his series (top 10 for me, [I think it still is, hell if anything it moved up cause RE 6 was so bad)], never denied that. I just hate him.


I'll spare you the embarrassment of dredging up the old logs, but, really.

More importantly if Snake was able to lead Link for six hours on the basis of the argument that Crono was there he's going to kill Link when Mario's there this year.

everyone can rejoice now it's okay forever guys
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#68 | HaRRicH | Posted 7/27/2013 10:24:05 PM | message detail
How do you love the MGS-series and be indifferent at best to Snake?
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#69 | EmDubyaSee | Posted 7/27/2013 10:26:45 PM | message detail
HaRRicH posted...
How do you love the MGS-series and be indifferent at best to Snake?


Snake is bland, and has no redeeming or enjoyable qualities at all. MGS is none of those things,
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#70 | Karma Hunter | Posted 7/27/2013 10:32:52 PM | message detail
unlike of course dynamic and compelling character Crono
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#71 | Sorozone | Posted 7/27/2013 10:34:23 PM | message detail
Crono poops all over Snake. He got dat Toriyama style.
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#72 | raginbull911 | Posted 7/27/2013 10:34:50 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
unlike of course dynamic and compelling character Crono


Hey now, he died so the future agreed to change.
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#73 | EmDubyaSee | Posted 7/27/2013 10:36:46 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
unlike of course dynamic and compelling character Crono


Crono and Link are supposed to be someone you put your personality and idiosyncrasies in. They are just avatars. Avatars are awesome to me for that exact reason. They are heroes, that's all that matters, everything else is on me. Hence why they are the my 2 favorite characters, they are avatars living in the world of my favorite games. If Snake was simply an Avatar, He'd probably be one of my 10 or so favorite characters.
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#74 | Karma Hunter | Posted 7/27/2013 10:38:30 PM | message detail
yes that style that does not at all look exactly like any particular popular manga/anime in the slightest
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#75 | Karma Hunter | Posted 7/27/2013 10:42:27 PM | message detail | (edited)
EmDubyaSee posted...
If Snake was simply an Avatar, He'd probably be one of my 10 or so favorite characters.


"Snake is so bland, if only he would lose all that personality he'd be a Top Ten character"

edit I'm not trying to pick on Crono specifically but can the rest of you see where I'm coming from with this <_<
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#76 | EmDubyaSee | Posted 7/27/2013 10:41:17 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
yes that style that does not at all look exactly like any particular popular manga/anime in the slightest


I'll FREELY admit that the reason Crono is my favorite above Link is because he looks like Trunks.


But even without that, he'd still be #2. So not a great example bro.,
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#77 | EmDubyaSee | Posted 7/27/2013 10:43:03 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
EmDubyaSee posted...
If Snake was simply an Avatar, He'd probably be one of my 10 or so favorite characters.


"Snake is so bland, if only he would lose all that personality he'd be a Top Ten character"


He'd be an voiceless avatar in a top 10 games series. That screams top 10 character to me, again, look who my top 2 are...
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#78 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 7/27/2013 10:46:31 PM | message detail
Sorozone posted...
Crono poops all over Snake. He got dat Toriyama style.


lol Toriyama
*snickers*
#79 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/27/2013 11:52:29 PM | message detail
I'm a huge fan of Snake due to his dialogue, and...yeah, no idea where this whole "he's bland" stuff is coming from.
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#80 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/27/2013 11:52:44 PM | message detail
Updated Top 10

Top 10 Closest Matches
1. Alucard – 36.32% vs. Captain Falcon – 35.95% - Round 1 – 0.37%
2. Ike – 35.81% vs. Proto Man – 35.26% - Round 1 – 0.55%
3. Tharja – 36.21% vs. Tiny Tina – 35.35% - Round 1 – 0.86%
4. Viewtiful Joe – 25.65% vs. Handsome Jack – 24.20% - Round 1 – 1.45%
5. Captain Viridian – 13.51% vs. Peacock – 11.60% - Round 1 – 1.91%
6. Hero – 25.76% vs. Rinoa Heartilly – 23.26% - Round 1 – 2.50%
7. Zack Fair – 32.59% vs. Ryu Hayabusa – 29.59% - Round 1 – 3.00%
8. Isaac – 15.36% vs. Tingle – 11.97% - Round 1 – 3.39%
9. Miles Edgeworth – 28.18% vs. Agent 47 – 23.63% - Round 1 – 4.55%
10. Chrom – 29.78% vs. Heavy – 24.61% - Round 1 – 5.17%

Top 10 Smallest Day Vote Gaps
1. Ike – 11023 vs. Proto Man – 10854 – Round 1 – 169
2. Viewtiful Joe – 7315 vs. Handsome Jack – 6901 – Round 1 – 415
3. Hero – 8311 vs. Rinoa Heartilly – 7503 – Round 1 – 808
4. Zack Fair – 9862 vs. Ryu Hayabusa – 8955 – Round 1 – 907
5. Miles Edgeworth – 8763 vs. Agent 47 – 7350 – Round 1 – 1413
6. Kefka – 11443 vs. Zack Fair – 9862 – Round 1 – 1581
7. Chrom – 9589 vs. Heavy – 7924 – Round 1 – 1665
8. Proto Man – 10854 vs. Dr. Robotnik – 8909 – Round 1 – 1945
9. Fei Fong Wong – 6288 vs. Dan Hibiki – 4217 – Round 1 – 2071
10. Ike – 11023 vs. Dr. Robotnik – 8909 – Round 1 – 2114

Top 5 Least Popular Day Polls
1. Ness vs. Locke Cole vs. CATS – Round 1 – 27607
2. Frog vs. Viewtiful Joe vs. Handsome Jack – Round 1 – 28522
3. Altair vs. Ratchet vs. Shulk – Round 1 – 29616
4. Kefka vs. Zack Fair vs. Ryu Hayabusa – Round 1 – 30260
5. Vincent Valentine vs. KOS-MOS vs. Dunban – Round 1 – 30485

Top 5 Least Impressive Day Winners
1. Ike – Round 1 – 11023
2. Kefka – Round 1 – 11443
3. Ness – Round 1 – 12979
4. Altair – Round 1 – 13157
5. Frog – Round 1 – 14305

Top 10 Least Predictable Matches
1. Draven vs. Jak vs. Chie Satonaka – Round 1 – 38.19%
2. Crash Bandicoot vs. Wheatley vs. Tommy Vercetti – Round 1 – 40.90%
3. Frog vs. Viewtiful Joe vs. Handsome Jack – Round 1 – 41.50%
4. Ike vs. Proto Man vs. Dr. Robotnik – Round 1 – 42.42%
5. Tharja vs. Tiny Tina vs. Juliet Starling – Round 1 – 42.49%
6. Morrigan Aensland vs. Miles Edgeworth vs. Agent 47 – Round 1 – 45.15%
7. Altair vs. Ratchet vs. Shulk – Round 1 – 50.76%
8. Kefka vs. Zack Fair vs. Ryu Hayabusa – Round 1 – 51.14%
9. Barret Wallace vs. Professor Layton vs. Reimu Hakurei – Round 1 – 51.28%
10. Alucard vs. Captain Falcon vs. Rydia – Round 1 – 51.46%
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#81 | SliceSabre | Posted 7/28/2013 12:52:53 AM | message detail
And Lugia warps it up early!
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#82 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/28/2013 1:27:36 AM | message detail
Hey guys I just remembered something random
A few years ago someone suggested to nominate some kind of new CATS
That character said things like
"You persistent guy, but your life ends right now"
"You are very dangerous, be dead down here"
Google doesn't help to find the source!
#83 | Ultimaphazon | Posted 7/28/2013 1:31:06 AM | message detail
Honestly, this result doesn't really impress me. Sly has to be horribly weak, and Lugia is just barely doubling him.
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#84 | SuorGenoveffa | Posted 7/28/2013 2:16:48 AM | message detail
Lugia is easily lower in the Pokιmon hierarchy than Lucario or Jigglypuff, letting him get 59.5% in a three-way poll... these guys must suck horribly.
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#85 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/28/2013 2:22:44 AM | message detail
How is Lugia weaker than pink dumb ball or mr furry..?
#86 | Achromatic | Posted 7/28/2013 2:28:04 AM | message detail
Yeah I would not hesitate for Lugia to eat both of those.
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#87 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 7/28/2013 2:28:30 AM | message detail
SuorGenoveffa posted...
Lugia is easily lower in the Pokιmon hierarchy than Lucario or Jigglypuff, letting him get 59.5% in a three-way poll... these guys must suck horribly.


Maybe in bizarroland. Jigglypuff is piss weak and nobody likes Lucario, he was overpushed to the detriment of the franchise.
#88 | ffmasterjose | Posted 7/28/2013 2:36:52 AM | message detail
How was Frog winning such a statistical upset?

and Lugia destroys Lucario with ease at the very LEAST. Lucario bombing in his Contest debut will never leave my memory.

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#89 | SuorGenoveffa | Posted 7/28/2013 2:43:32 AM | message detail
I'm not buying Lugia being stronger than anybody yet, no reason to believe it is as strong as this match shows because its competition is apparently real trash.

Are we sure that Jigglypuff wouldn't be putting the same numbers here? Smash exposure in all three games should be worth more than anything Lugia has going for it.

We'll find out next match I guess.
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#90 | Safer_777 | Posted 7/28/2013 4:44:20 AM | message detail
Lugia with 60%.Amazing.
And Frog was an upset because the casul picker will see the match,see that Handsome Jack is from GOTY 2012 and is high seed and will pick him.Easy.
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#91 | HaRRicH | Posted 7/28/2013 4:57:05 AM | message detail
To Lugia's credit, this should be the strongest version of Sly Cooper we've seen to date. He's had several games come out since his last match, including a collection and appearance in Playstation All-Stars. Between that and the Sony hard-on going on lately converting to success for other (earlier) Playstation-characters...

...Sly/Lugia still probably aren't that strong, but Frog's beatable. Cloud doesn't help either; I normally don't care much for the FF7/CT-overlap, but it's already a significant difference in strength between them and their similar age could mean more overlap as they each get older.


Then again, Viewtiful Joe has a similar argument as Sly with MvsC3, and he got doubled too. Joe VS Sly, who wins?
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#92 | FantomXD | Posted 7/28/2013 5:36:33 AM | message detail
SuorGenoveffa posted...
I'm not buying Lugia being stronger than anybody yet, no reason to believe it is as strong as this match shows because its competition is apparently real trash.

Are we sure that Jigglypuff wouldn't be putting the same numbers here? Smash exposure in all three games should be worth more than anything Lugia has going for it.

We'll find out next match I guess.

As much as i love Jigglypuff the truth is that it is a VERY silly pokemon desgined to appeal to little girls. **** man, i've seen people think i'm gay because Jigglypuff is my favorite Smash character. >_>
#93 | spooky96 | Posted 7/28/2013 5:52:43 AM | message detail
Yeah people call me gay because of the way I walk. Combine that with absurdly long height and you really look awkward while walking.

I just don't pay any attention to them.

WHY AM I SAYING THIS.
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#94 | MegaWentEvil | Posted 7/28/2013 5:58:23 AM | message detail
And besides, what's wrong with being gay, anyway? *Shrug*
#95 | spooky96 | Posted 7/28/2013 6:13:46 AM | message detail
There's nothing wrong with being gay, the thing is that it misleads people, because I'm not gay.
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#96 | Samurai7 | Posted 7/28/2013 6:20:28 AM | message detail
spooky96 posted...
There's nothing wrong with being gay, the thing is that it misleads people, because I'm not gay.


So you'd be upset if someone called you really handsome and you're not?
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#97 | spooky96 | Posted 7/28/2013 6:39:04 AM | message detail
I take those kinds of compliments as a joke, because I know I look like a potato. The compliments which I take seriously are.... my running speed (I'm the fastest runner in my school which is pretty cool I guess) and my height. I'm 6'2. People averagely here are 5'7 or 5'8.
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#98 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/28/2013 6:55:55 AM | message detail
Match XL: (2) Dante vs. (17) Laharl vs. (26) Raz

Previous Contest

Dante – 2010
69.37% against Axel
49.65% against Ryu

Laharl – 2010
56.32% against Neku Sakuraba
32.25% against Sora

Raz – 2008
8.23% against Samus Aran, Nightmare and Crash Bandicoot

Analysis

Hey look, the Dante and Laharl rematch that we have all been waiting for. I guess when you have been in as many contests as they have you are bound to have rematches that no one cares about. With the poor reception of the new Devil May Cry game it is debated on how it will affect his strength. Technically they are different characters, but that might not stop disgruntled fans from abandoning this Dante. Not that it matters in this round, but it could make a difference in his match next round.

Laharl was tripled by Dante in his 2008 match, but in 2010 he performed a bit better winning his first match and only getting doubled by Sora. I expect him to perform better against Dante and should his fans abandon him Laharl could have an excellent performance on him. It would take quite the drop for Laharl to win though.

Raz performed terribly in his only contest and with nothing since then it is not hard to imagine what will happen to him. We all saw what happened to Yuri Hyuga a few matches ago and I expect a similar showing for Raz. The only question is whether or not Raz can finish above 10%.

In both four-ways contests Dante has had an impressive first round percentage and it looks like he will continue that tradition. Personally I do not think his overall strength will diminish too much, but there is the possibility. Unless he gets really anti-voted I see him breaking 60% in this match.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Dante > Laharl and Raz

charmander6000’s Prediction: Dante – 61.04%, Laharl – 29.36%, Raz – 9.60%
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#99 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/28/2013 7:02:01 AM | message detail
Wow this topic is dead
I think this is the slowest stat topic so far
And with next match being obvious and Dante performance is stable no one will discuss if he overperform or underperform
#100 | VeryInsane | Posted 7/28/2013 7:03:07 AM | message detail
Random question: With Borderlands characters bombing, is Claptrap still a lock for second against Lenneth Valkyrie?
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