Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1079

#301 | paulg235 | Posted 7/26/2013 11:22:11 AM | message detail
400 Lead barrier breached.
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#302 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/26/2013 11:22:26 AM | message detail
Because Ryu sucked in 2010.

A bit unfair to use his round 3 match, might as well use Solid Snake's match at face value.
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#303 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 7/26/2013 11:22:58 AM | message detail
I think Ryu is more likely to catch Zack than Zack is to catch Kefka at this rate
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#304 | Dr_Football | Posted 7/26/2013 11:23:32 AM | message detail | (edited)
Uh Im not sure how relevant it is to the argument at hand, but the argument for most of the Charizard pickers wasn't necessarily Zard>Bowser, it was Zard>Sora>Bowser
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#305 | Lopen | Posted 7/26/2013 11:24:37 AM | message detail
Ryu's always been more likely to catch Zack.

Honestly feel Ryu's more likely to catch Kefka than Zack is to catch Kefka. Ryu's day vote should be killer in this group.
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#306 | Lopen | Posted 7/26/2013 11:24:37 AM | message detail
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#307 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/26/2013 11:24:54 AM | message detail
GloryChaos posted...
Nanis23 posted...
ChenKenichiFan posted...
I have a hard time seeing the "common sense" in Charizard > Bowser. Common sense goes like this:

"Charizard is an awesome Pokemon, but Bowser is the most iconic video game villain ever, and Mario is more popular than Pokemon anyway. Guess I'll pick Bowza!"


More like
The most popular Pokemon people has nostalgia for,a fresh face in those contests and who the hell doesn't like Charizard


Plenty of people don't like him. Make a Charizard topic on any of the pokemon boards here and you'll get replies of "He's so overrated!" and "He sucks in OU, UU, and NU. Garbage pokemon."


Well the reason he is garbage is because of Stealth Rock
And people hate SR,not Charizard!
#308 | Dr_Football | Posted 7/26/2013 11:25:38 AM | message detail
19 gurus took Charizard to win that division, only 6 of them predicted it would happen against Bowser
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#309 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/26/2013 11:27:18 AM | message detail
Well the reason he is garbage is because of Stealth Rock
And people hate SR,not Charizard!


You should take a look at smogon, there are people upset that Charizard gets something like 3% usage in the high tiers. I mean if people want to use worse Pokemon let them.
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#310 | paulg235 | Posted 7/26/2013 11:27:32 AM | message detail
Now already up at 450. Kefka could run away with the poll at this rate.
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#311 | swordz9 | Posted 7/26/2013 11:29:07 AM | message detail
#312 | raginbull911 | Posted 7/26/2013 11:31:46 AM | message detail
Kefka gained over 100 votes in the last 3 splits.
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#313 | rpgsruleall | Posted 7/26/2013 11:33:33 AM | message detail
TheOneAboveAll posted...
Sprite Kefka upsetting Sprite Snake could mean a Crono/Cloud/Kefka semi, which (in mine and red sox's dreamworld) leads to an SFF upset and a Crono/Mario/Link final, which leads to...


This post got me on the Kefka bandwagon.
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#314 | LordoftheMorons | Posted 7/26/2013 11:35:04 AM | message detail
Come on Zack, switch with SOMEONE.
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#315 | raginbull911 | Posted 7/26/2013 11:36:57 AM | message detail
Kefka at +514.. I think he's averaged a 30 vote gain in the last 4 splits.
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#316 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 7/26/2013 11:38:12 AM | message detail
#317 | Steins_Gate | Posted 7/26/2013 11:39:04 AM | message detail | (edited)
I don't think Snake's name penetration is weak enough that the sprite round would knock him out against Kefka.

People have to click the bubble before voting, not the picture!

It's a completely different scenario than Big Boss.
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#318 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 7/26/2013 11:40:04 AM | message detail
Does anyone have the Contest Bingo thing? Wasn't there something about Kefka in there? If not, there should be.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3/CzarMagus/contestbingo_zps3cd1ee46.png

Not sure how to check square 16. I get the reference, but I have no idea what contest-wise has to happen.
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#319 | Regaro_Ukiera | Posted 7/26/2013 11:40:05 AM | message detail
You overestimate solid **** I think
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#320 | jkmill550 | Posted 7/26/2013 11:40:50 AM | message detail
So is Kefka a shoe-in for Round 3? Is he likely the second strongest in the division?
#321 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 7/26/2013 11:42:51 AM | message detail
Snake/Ike/Kefka, believe!
(lol)
#322 | superange128 | Posted 7/26/2013 11:43:13 AM | message detail
AxemRedRanger posted...
Does anyone have the Contest Bingo thing? Wasn't there something about Kefka in there? If not, there should be.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3/CzarMagus/contestbingo_zps3cd1ee46.png

Not sure how to check square 16. I get the reference, but I have no idea what contest-wise has to happen.


it was a reference to Phoenix Wright losing debated matches in the past (Gordon, Jecht, Alucard/Dracula etc.)

Of course he beat Marth so the Miracle DID happen in this case


Also I believe there were a few matches B8 over the casuals and vice-versa
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#323 | Steins_Gate | Posted 7/26/2013 11:44:16 AM | message detail
It also should be taken into consideration whether only official sprites will be allowed. Knowing Allen, he may take unofficial sprites into consideration.
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#324 | Lopen | Posted 7/26/2013 11:44:31 AM | message detail
I'm pretty sure Protoman/Ike let you fill in #16
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#325 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 7/26/2013 11:46:06 AM | message detail
Also I believe there were a few matches B8 over the casuals and vice-versa

I figured there has to be a massive gap to check those squares.

What are the biggest guru vs. sitewide bracket differences so far, in both directions?
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#326 | superange128 | Posted 7/26/2013 11:46:16 AM | message detail
Steins_Gate posted...
It also should be taken into consideration whether only official sprites will be allowed. Knowing Allen, he may take unofficial sprites into consideration.


in the past this sadly hasn't been the case

Mario vs. Ike in 2010 had Ike with a fan sprite that had to be changed
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#327 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 7/26/2013 11:46:27 AM | message detail
#23: Casual bracketers beat us pretty good in the Spyro match, right?
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#328 | paulg235 | Posted 7/26/2013 11:46:33 AM | message detail
Fun Fact: Despite contributing to an underperformance, Solid **** hasn't actually cost Snake a contest match, yet.
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#329 | GloryChaos | Posted 7/26/2013 11:50:14 AM | message detail
Is Solid **** supposed to be that lousy NES sprite that was supposed to have made Frog and Bowser perform so well against him? That sprite may suck, but I honestly don't think it's bad enough to cost him a match.
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#330 | paulg235 | Posted 7/26/2013 11:51:01 AM | message detail
Yes, it's that sprite.

Thought we have seen the Gameboy Colour sprite, too.
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#331 | Lopen | Posted 7/26/2013 11:51:52 AM | message detail
I still don't know why Locke did so poorly if Kefka's killing it like this. Did that pic really hurt him that much?
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#332 | LOLContests | Posted 7/26/2013 11:52:16 AM | message detail
Eh. I have the weakest estimations of Snake in the Stats Topic, and I don't think he'd come close to losing to Kefka in the Sprite Round. Kefka might be able to make it fun for an hour or two in a Night Match, but with 24 hours, Snake should be getting at least 55%
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#333 | superange128 | Posted 7/26/2013 11:54:53 AM | message detail
Lopen posted...
I still don't know why Locke did so poorly if Kefka's killing it like this. Did that pic really hurt him that much?


No Dissidia. Plus Locke while liked isn't a super fan favorite like Kefka
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#334 | Steins_Gate | Posted 7/26/2013 11:56:36 AM | message detail
The only reason Locke is even in this at all is because he's the first dude you play as in the game. I'd say the likes of Edgar could possibly overtake him.
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#335 | SliceSabre | Posted 7/26/2013 11:57:10 AM | message detail
600 reached.

Now it is totally a gg Zack situation now.
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#336 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 7/26/2013 11:57:36 AM | message detail
Kefka and Terra (especially Kefka) seem to have become the icons of Old Square on this site, and perhaps that status carries with it more Nintendo support than we know.
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#337 | Lopen | Posted 7/26/2013 11:58:42 AM | message detail
I still think Edgar >= Sabin > Terra > Locke but after seeing Locke stink up the joint I don't care enough to try it.
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#338 | spooky96 | Posted 7/26/2013 11:58:56 AM | message detail
Oh did we have a competitive battling discussion here? Cool.

Chaizard sucks in competitive battling, even without Stealth Rock best it can get to is UU.

Volcarona>>>>>>>>>>>Charizard

In simple terms, Moth>>>>>>>>>>>Dragon.


There was a tournament going on on the Pokemon X board. 32 users participated in it, I was in the top 6. Only 2-3 battles are remaining in that tournament.
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#339 | Steins_Gate | Posted 7/26/2013 11:59:44 AM | message detail
I might take Cyan over Locke even, but at that point it honestly does come down to the picture, I'm sure of it.
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#340 | raginbull911 | Posted 7/26/2013 12:00:09 PM | message detail
SliceSabre posted...
600 reached.

Now it is totally a gg Zack situation now.


I feel like I'm picking on you :(

Only 545 right now. 600 seems inevitable though!
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#341 | Sorozone | Posted 7/26/2013 12:00:19 PM | message detail
Should have stuck with my gut, I originally had Kefka. Switched to Ryu because I figured they would kill each other. Dammit.
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#342 | Karma Hunter | Posted 7/26/2013 12:04:57 PM | message detail
Take it from me - Snake only hasn't lost a contest match with Sprite Snake because he's almost invariably gone up against subpar competition. Sprite Snake could conceivably lose to every single member of the Noble Nine and almost every near-elite out there. It's only because he keeps getting put up against chumps like Frog and Pikachu that he gets embarrassed, but hasn't actually cost him yet.

If Kefka can get to R3 and his true sprite that he's never gotten makes him as strong as he should be (I'm not talking about Angel form, I'm talking about in-game Kefka), Snake's not immune from a loss.
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#343 | Kibago | Posted 7/26/2013 12:06:12 PM | message detail
As someone who was excited for Locke...we dont need to see him or Edgar or anyone from now on. Terra and Kefka is all we need from FF6 and Dissidia is the obvious explanation.
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#344 | GloryChaos | Posted 7/26/2013 12:06:12 PM | message detail
spooky96 posted...
Oh did we have a competitive battling discussion here? Cool.

Chaizard sucks in competitive battling, even without Stealth Rock best it can get to is UU.

Volcarona>>>>>>>>>>>Charizard

In simple terms, Moth>>>>>>>>>>>Dragon.


There was a tournament going on on the Pokemon X board. 32 users participated in it, I was in the top 6. Only 2-3 battles are remaining in that tournament.


Without stealth rock, I'd actually use Charizard in OU. He makes for a great scarfer / specs user (not so much) on sun teams. OHKOing / 2hko'ing pretty much any switch in is nothing to joke about. And interestingly enough, there are a few opportunities where he could be switched in.

Volcorona would still be infinitely better though.
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#345 | TheOneAboveAll (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/26/2013 12:07:01 PM | message detail
By the way, the votals are pretty good this match. It doesn't seem like there's any SFF here at all.
#346 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/26/2013 12:07:33 PM | message detail
AxemRedRanger posted...
Does anyone have the Contest Bingo thing? Wasn't there something about Kefka in there? If not, there should be.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3/CzarMagus/contestbingo_zps3cd1ee46.png

Not sure how to check square 16. I get the reference, but I have no idea what contest-wise has to happen.


Link wins free space made me lol
#347 | swordz9 | Posted 7/26/2013 12:08:02 PM | message detail
So if Kefka does somehow make it to Snake and beat him we could possibly be looking at Kefka/Cloud/Sora for the final 3 of that group right?
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#348 | KamikazePotato | Posted 7/26/2013 12:08:13 PM | message detail
I don't think Sprite Kefka would do that much for him. The reason Kefka slaughtered Wesker that one time is because that is the Kefka that should have always been. a.k.a., Kefka with a decent picture.

Now that Kefka has decent pictures to work with, he should perform a lot more consistently.
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#349 | TheOneAboveAll (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/26/2013 12:09:51 PM | message detail
So if any of us are taking our Sprite Kefka>Snake conversations seriously (I'm not, by the way), this match knocks off numbers 2, 11, and 23 from the bingo board.
#350 | Karma Hunter | Posted 7/26/2013 12:10:11 PM | message detail
TheOneAboveAll posted...
By the way, the votals are pretty good this match. It doesn't seem like there's any SFF here at all.


Eh, Zack and Kefka definitely have disproportionate overlap. Not to an insane degree, but it's there, and Ryu H would be stinkin' up the joint even more did they not I'd wager. SFF matches don't have to be low vote affairs, it happens but it's not an ironclad rule.
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