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Dammit Zack, don't throw it all away like that! If Kefka can just throw Zack's small updates the hell away like that and way more, then no way Zack is coming back. --- *2, *8,070,446 Kuroko no Basket *3, *6,495,240 Naruto |
ExThaNemesis posted... Bragging about getting a Kefka match right out of skill is like bragging about winning at the roulette wheel out of skill, man. Just stop. I'm not bragging! I think you all want me to be bragging just so you can argue with me because you're sour over getting it wrong. Let me say this loud and clear: I AM NOT GOOD AT THESE CONTESTS. Here's a list of all the wrong picks I've made already: Waluigi Marth Jak Chrom Miles Edgeworth Thrall Captain Falcon N All that happened is, prior to this match, I didn't know that Zack was so heavily favored on B8 (because I don't keep up with this stuff: hint hint) and so when I saw the board going crazy over Kefka winning I thought "wow, glad I didn't look at the stats!" That's all I was saying. And then you all took it the wrong way and it turned into this ridiculous discussion. |
ctesjbuvf posted... If Kefka wins, I'll go ahead and say we're seeing a case of rSFF here. Zack is stronger overall, but the FF fanbase prefer Kefka above him, so while Zack has more support from the outside, the fact that the fanbase prefer Kefka will be what gives him the win. It's odd to consider this when Zack's proven himself capable of SFF in the past; he tripled Cecil and doubled Zidane in 2008, then got ~59% on Yuna before outperforming Cid Highwind against Mega Man in 2010. That a number of different SFF-matches and comparisons that show he's legit with the FF-community, so I don't think the rSFF-theory likely applies to Kefka/Zack (though I'd take Cid Highwind to beat Zack for rSFF in that regard). So what's changed since 2010? Kefka's shown a lot of new potential, likely due to Dissidia...and FF7's shown new weaknesses that even first round anti-votes from previous years don't suggest. The answer's probably between those two factors. This result leaves a lot of questions to still be answered though. --- T H E S T A B L E - bring on Epona! http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg |
I have Ryu winning, but if he doesn't, I'll root for the evil clown. So he can make everybody lose 1 point. <evil laugh> |
300 vote barrier reached. gg zack --- @w@ Gamertag: SliceSabre |
red sox 777 posted... Bad update for Zack, but he's made a lot of progress against the Squall/Terra projection in the last 15 minutes still. Current projection: Kefka wins with 51.95%. Man, I wish we had a direct barometer to measure FF6 against 7...here's some crazy idea I just came up with: using CT vs FF7 (CT can't be that far way from old-school FF6 in trends), how does Zack do? |
And
that Squall/Terra match even had an ASV. I guess we're in pretty much
uncharted territory here. Which might be expected given the absence of a
contest for so long. --- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. |
Sorry
turbo, don't take any offense to it. When we get blindsided like this,
even the slightest insinuation that we're being mocked is likely to
cause the sort of reaction you just got. WHY IS NO ONE EXPLAINING WHAT HAPPENED TO RYU H HE SHOULD BE DOMINATING FFFF --- Die young and save yourself. Brace for the G's, and fast heel-toe work. |
TheOneAboveAll posted... turbopuns posted...Karma Hunter, I understand that analyzing matches and watching trends from year to year helps people make informed decisions. But look at it from a casual's perspective. I might get lambasted for this, but I kind of look at these contests the same way I look at baseball. Stats and trending are probably 80-90% (if not more) of the story when it comes to predicting outcomes, but there's always the variable "human" factor. In a baseball player's case, that can be anything from being an emotional headcase to being suddenly injury prone. In these contests, it can mean a character's fanbase suddenly turning on him or an unpredictable collective community paradigm shift towards a character or game. Those who are able to predict the "human" factor win the World Series instead of just consistently making the playoffs. Or, win these contests instead of consistently placing in the top 50. --- I pwn you all! |
I
got pulled into a game of LoL after the third update (played Rumble,
went 5/3/13, won in a fairly close game, thanks for asking) so I'm
catching up here... - looks like Kefka's lead has stalled out a bit. No real increase in the last 20 minutes. His trends against Bowser involved a huge drop after breaking 40% on him for a good while, so that might be trouble for him. (As I write that, Zack dies off and Kefka breaks 300 votes.) - Hayabusa looks consigned to third, though he might be the first third placer to hit 30%. - Casuals will have Kefka. But for every match like this where looking at past results screws you over, there are 20 more where they guide you correctly. It's about predicting what changes will have happened between contests - well done if you called it. - Man Kefka is a legendary contest troll. --- We are living our lives Abound with so much information |
Damn Zack is playing with Ryu instead of Kefka. ... --- Pokemon Showdown Peak Ranking OU: 2004 And then lost 7 matches in a row >_> |
ExThaNemesis posted... Sorry turbo, don't take any offense to it. When we get blindsided like this, even the slightest insinuation that we're being mocked is likely to cause the sort of reaction you just got. Badass SFF. Zack takes his 'cool sworddude with good design' vote and steals every last bit of it. That's my take on it anyway. |
Kefka's not stopping. --- *2, *8,070,446 Kuroko no Basket *3, *6,495,240 Naruto |
2013: The Fall of Final Fantasy VII |
Last split: Kefka +15 to Zack Zack +19 to Ryu *edit because I screwed the names up! --- I pwn you all! |
I'll tell you why Ryu isn't winning Ninja Gaiden 3 --- you just can't live in that negative way...make way for the positive day |
TheOceIot posted... I'll tell you why Ryu isn't winning WOAH --- Pokemon Showdown Peak Ranking OU: 2004 And then lost 7 matches in a row >_> |
See, the problem is, while there has been a wealth of CT/FFVII matches in the past, not one of them was in the 12-hour format! --- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. |
Holy
crap. I voted for Zack, and when I saw the results and that he was
ahead of Ryu, I was happy and proud of myself. Didn't even bother
looking at Kefka because I thought he would be a non-factor. And as I
was leaving the results page, my eyes took a quick glance at Kefka's
percentage and my mouth just dropped. What the hell is going on? Has GameFAQs finally realized who's the best FF villain? or maybe Ryu just sucks. I'm losing a point in my bracket and getting -6 in the expert, but this result is just beautiful. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jVcn6I452I --- Hey, its that SuperNiceDog! Congrats to the Guru 2011 winner |
Ninja
Gaiden 3/10 was so goddamn bad, it almost made me not want to vote for
him. And Ninja Gaiden Black is a top 10-15 game for me. --- F*** BT |
I
can easily buy Ninja Gaiden 3 weakening Ryu H a bit. The games negative
reception is infamous. Hell, a lot of fans consider, and hope, the
series is dead. --- Demyx is better than Axel. http://www.last.fm/user/crazydom |
Let's
hope this holds even though I'm pretty sure I have Zack in r2 as well.
My bracket is practically dead so let's go for favorites and upsets --- http://img.imgcake.com/RegaroUlquiorrapngse.png |
BK_Sheikah00 posted... Holy crap. I voted for Zack, and when I saw the results and that he was ahead of Ryu, I was happy and proud of myself. Didn't even bother looking at Kefka because I thought he would be a non-factor. And as I was leaving the results page, my eyes took a quick glance at Kefka's percentage and my mouth just dropped. FFVII is finally getting knocked out of its throne. Next step: Zelda. |
red sox 777 posted... See, the problem is, while there has been a wealth of CT/FFVII matches in the past, not one of them was in the 12-hour format! Hmm...how about Sephiroth/Missingno? Not even close to ideal by any stretch, but a joke start against a not-quite-totally-antivoted Sephiroth is closest to what we got here, I guess. |
ExThaNemesis posted... Sorry turbo, don't take any offense to it. When we get blindsided like this, even the slightest insinuation that we're being mocked is likely to cause the sort of reaction you just got. When was his last actual game to help him get support? I mean his recent games were remakes/ports. --- @w@ Gamertag: SliceSabre |
Quite
honestly, NG3 was goddamn f***in' horrible, I don't want to see another
NG game from Team Ninja. Itagaki took most of the talent to Valhalla
Games, and the NG team is a shell of it's former self, shamelessly
copying more and more elements of modern game design and erasing
everything that was unique about the first game(and the second one, to a
lesser extent). --- F*** BT |
turbopuns posted... ExThaNemesis posted...Bragging about getting a Kefka match right out of skill is like bragging about winning at the roulette wheel out of skill, man. Just stop. Our point is that that's a weird thing to think. If you had looked at the stats, you might not have picked Kefka correctly, but you probably get at least 6 of those other 8 right. |
Anyway... So now Yuna > Chief is a lock, right? --- Hey, its that SuperNiceDog! Congrats to the Guru 2011 winner |
SliceSabre posted... ExThaNemesis posted...Sorry turbo, don't take any offense to it. When we get blindsided like this, even the slightest insinuation that we're being mocked is likely to cause the sort of reaction you just got. Ninja Gaiden II. Ryu beat Zero in the same year as that game's release, though to be fair Mega Man characters looked like ass that contest. (screw X's fraudulent close match with Mario in R2) --- Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC |
Sephiroth/Missingno is going to show Zack crushing this match, but remember, Missingno had a lead of 200 within 5 minutes. --- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. |
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BK_Sheikah00 posted... Anyway... So now Yuna > Chief is a lock, right? Well, he haven't seen FFX perform yet, so... --- The Gamer In Me His dark secret is he's really Spark Brushel in disguise. If people knew, he'd be ruined. - Spiral on the black psyche locks |
BK_Sheikah00 posted... Anyway... So now Yuna > Chief is a lock, right? How does this match say ANYTHING about that? Well that was my gut reaction, but I understand where you're coming from. You also helped me to realize some sheer irony: look who Yuna and Chief lost to in our last character battle. --- Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC |
Another cut. Meanwhile, Zack's lead on Ryu has doubled in the last half hour. --- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. |
BK_Sheikah00 posted... Anyway... So now Yuna > Chief is a lock, right? It was a lock since the Xbone debacle. I expect Chief to get antivoted worse than ever this year. --- Demyx is better than Axel. http://www.last.fm/user/crazydom |
red sox 777 posted... Sephiroth/Missingno is going to show Zack crushing this match, but remember, Missingno had a lead of 200 within 5 minutes. Bah, it's freakin' impossible to get a decent gauge on this crap! Nothing to be done but cheer for Zack and hope he can do the impossible then. |
TheOneAboveAll posted... Our point is that that's a weird thing to think. If you had looked at the stats, you might not have picked Kefka correctly, but you probably get at least 6 of those other 8 right. I have said nothing to suggest that what you're saying isn't true. As I've stated about 3-4 times now, I was making a comment about this match. |
BK_Sheikah00 posted... Anyway... So now Yuna > Chief is a lock, right? If FFXHD was out by now I'd say yes. But who knows.. I definitely wouldn't say it's a lock. --- I pwn you all! |
If
SB decides to do sprites in Round Three, we might have have a match on
our hands: anybody remember the one time Kefka got a sprite-pic? http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/1997 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/2009 Kefka beat Wesker far worse than Mithos, probably because of his sprite. And who else is Kefka facing in Round Three? Solid S***. Save us, Epona! --- T H E S T A B L E - bring on Epona! http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg |
LinkMarioSamus posted... BK_Sheikah00 posted...Anyway... So now Yuna > Chief is a lock, right? You pretty much answered it yourself. LinkMarioSamus posted... look who Yuna and Chief lost to in our last character battle. --- Hey, its that SuperNiceDog! Congrats to the Guru 2011 winner |
If the theme is "first appearance", I highly doubt that Kefka's getting that angel sprite. --- Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC |
I
think it has just been the FF side characters so far that has been
sucking it up. Yeah they get antivoted, but Sephiroth still looked
really strong while another strong character, Vincent, looked like ****.
Aeris performed okay when you compare her bad performance with
Sheppard's equally bad performance. This bodes well for Squall, Auron, and Yuna. Sucks for Gilgamesh, and who cares about Tidus really. |
If only Snake was still at his pre-2005 strength, Solid **** may have been capable to actually lose to sprite Kefka. --- Smurf, the cream of Sonic Fanboyism. |
I know I will be giving up my vote to anti-vote Chief this year. --- @w@ Gamertag: SliceSabre |
LinkMarioSamus posted... If the theme is "first appearance", I highly doubt that Kefka's getting that angel sprite. So Kefka get's his cutscene sprite finally? Kefka a lock to Round 4 then! --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest |
BK_Sheikah00 posted... LinkMarioSamus posted...BK_Sheikah00 posted...Anyway... So now Yuna > Chief is a lock, right? I think plugging in Yuna's percentage on Zack and Chief's percentage on Ryu would give a victory to Chief, although to be fair Zack is probably being hurt by Kefka. Or alternately, Kefka really is STFing his way to victory. HOWEVER, Chief gets an advantage for being the only day-oriented character in that match (though you could say the same about Ryu here, lol) - and IIRC the other two have TERRIBLE day votes. Plus, I think he could stand out quite a lot, though Chief is probably the last character you'd expect to benefit from STF (screw 2007...that was probably more bandwagoning than STF anyway). --- Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC |
Sprite Kefka over Solid **** would be one the best and funniest results we've ever seen. --- The Gamer In Me "Ike and Ash & Co. saw a Yoshi and didn't catch it." - Mer telling us his dream. |
Sprite Kefka beating Solid **** would be the greatest result in contest history. --- Demyx is better than Axel. http://www.last.fm/user/crazydom |
To
the whole Chief vs Yuna debate, doesn't Chief historically perform
better in multi-way contests? Claire's not a threat to win, but she's
not Chester/Yuri either. I remember Chief crushing Yuna when they met
in a multi-way before, but I could be wrong. --- I pwn you all! |
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