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This board heavily favored Kefka against Marcus Fenix, too.

We have not ever been able to get this guy properly.
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After 2010 and 2013 we will all believe Kefka is strong next contest, and then he'll flop horribly. Because that's how Kefka works.
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Does anyone remember any past FFVII/FFVI matches? Best I've got so far for trends is Squall/Terra, which projects a Kefka win with 52.69% against Zack.
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Another cut. What in the name of...

YES! 10 vote cut by Zack. The power hour is over!
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Turbopuns, on average, the board does far better than the casuals and ends up having more points. Why are the majority of expert entries 0 points?
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Fast Falcon ate my bracket for dinner in the guru contest.

So we underestimate Kefka all the time because he used to disappoint all the time, huh?

Makes enough sense.
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OK then I don't understand your thought process at all.

B8 picks Zack.

Casuals pick Kefka.

Kefka wins.

"It's times like these that it pays off to be a casual."

"No, you're wrong."

...what?

Because the board is like 33-3 against the casuals
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This is actually only the second time I've ever called a Kefka match wrong.

The first was when I picked him to beat Tommy.
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The casuals always love to put a ton of faith in Kefka, too. Against two no names (sorry, but Zack and Ryu don't have pictures in the bracket!), their prediction percentage is gonna be off the charts I'd guess.
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turbopuns posted...

OK then I don't understand your thought process at all.

B8 picks Zack.

Casuals pick Kefka.

Kefka wins.

"It's times like these that it pays off to be a casual."

"No, you're wrong."

...what?

His point was that it's irrelevant. The times where being a casual pays off are a heck of a lot rarer than the times that listening to B8 pays off. So this isn't considered, "paying off"; it's getting lucky with an overall losing proposition.

Yeah, next time I might just pick against the guru favorite in a Kefka match if it's even remotely plausible and not even try to reason the match out. >_>
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Oh god are we having the casuals vs. Board 8 argument still? That wasn't put to bed with our like 150-2 record all time against them?

Please.
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Oooo C'mon Zack you can do this
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And then lost 7 matches in a row >_>

Last split:

Kefka -10 to Zack
Zack +6 to Ryu
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And this still might not pay off if Kefka chokes it!

Guys please don't rally for Zack let Kefka just have this one also you're gonna kill my bracket <_<
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i'm pretty sure Kefka was heavily favored over Pac-Man and Tommy was a decent favorite over Kefka
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Ok, Ryu losing to Zack was something that could happen.

But they both losing to Kefka? WTF?

Please tell me this is board vote and this stupid LFF is still going to work.

red sox 777 posted...

Does anyone remember any past FFVII/FFVI matches? Best I've got so far for trends is Squall/Terra, which projects a Kefka win with 52.69% against Zack.

Sox, can you do me a favor? Run me some trends using Kefka's stuff from this match: http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Kefka_vs_Marcus_Fenix_vs_Tom_Nook_vs_Zelos_Wilder_2007

And compare them with any Zack matches from 2010. It's gonna have margin of error, but I trust your estimation skills here. Please, indulge me on this.

xp1337 posted...

Yeah, next time I might just pick against the guru favorite in a Kefka match if it's even remotely plausible and not even try to reason the match out. >_>

I was thinking of something similar....no....exactly the same <_<
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And then lost 7 matches in a row >_>

ExThaNemesis posted...

Oh god are we having the casuals vs. Board 8 argument still? That wasn't put to bed with our like 150-2 record all time against them?

Please.

2?

Who picked Knuckles over Magus?
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dethfdddddh posted...

Turbopuns, on average, the board does far better than the casuals and ends up having more points. Why are the majority of expert entries 0 points?

I think he gets that. Just saying that being a casual in this match is paying off doesn't mean he's claiming it pays off overall.

I don't think he ever made that claim. That would be laughably false.
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Karma Hunter posted...

And this still might not pay off if Kefka chokes it!

Guys please don't rally for Zack let Kefka just have this one also you're gonna kill my bracket <_<

Your bracket was dead the moment you abandoned Solid Snake, you traitor.
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Think Zack will pull a Protoman v. Ike and threaten Kefka's lead in the final updates only to come up short?
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Guys someone explain to me how Ryu Hayabusa is losing this match. TO KEFKA.

I just cannot wrap my mind around it, I thought Ryu had plenty of strength enough to not only win this one but the next one.
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Karma Hunter, I understand that analyzing matches and watching trends from year to year helps people make informed decisions. But look at it from a casual's perspective.

I didn't have any knowledge of the stats or these characters' previous matches. I can't tell you a list of all the games Kefka and Zack have made appearances in, much less how popular any of those games were. But I am a gamer and have a general knowledge of how popular FFVI and FFVII are on the Internet, and the sort of people who frequent gameFAQs. So I look at the two and pick Kefka with a good deal of confidence. Now it looks like I'm right and you're saying "well you just got lucky".

No. I used what knowledge I had to predict the result, and I predicted correctly. I don't think "luck" has as much to do with it as the fact that there are some imperfections in the stats that can't easily be predicted or accounted for from one contest to the next.

xp1337 posted...

dethfdddddh posted...

Turbopuns, on average, the board does far better than the casuals and ends up having more points. Why are the majority of expert entries 0 points?

I think he gets that. Just saying that being a casual in this match is paying off doesn't mean he's claiming it pays off overall.

I don't think he ever made that claim. That would be laughably false.

So he's arguing that it pays to be a casual when the casuals are right?

well no ****
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That's a second straight cut.

Another cut! One's lucky, two's coincidence, but three...!

Zack cuts again! I wont stop believing in you Zack!
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Bragging about getting a Kefka match right out of skill is like bragging about winning at the roulette wheel out of skill, man. Just stop.
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turbopuns posted...

Karma Hunter, I understand that analyzing matches and watching trends from year to year helps people make informed decisions. But look at it from a casual's perspective.

I didn't have any knowledge of the stats or these characters' previous matches. I can't tell you a list of all the games Kefka and Zack have made appearances in, much less how popular any of those games were. But I am a gamer and have a general knowledge of how popular FFVI and FFVII are on the Internet, and the sort of people who frequent gameFAQs. So I look at the two and pick Kefka with a good deal of confidence. Now it looks like I'm right and you're saying "well you just got lucky".

No. I used what knowledge I had to predict the result, and I predicted correctly. I don't think "luck" has as much to do with it as the fact that there are some imperfections in the stats that can't easily be predicted or accounted for from one contest to the next.

He's calling you out because you do have knowledge of stats and stuff. They are literally in the first post of all Stats and Discussion topics. That you choose not to use them is a different story, hence his saying that you got lucky - which you did, because you picked while intentionally dismissing important data points.

Lets goooooooooo Zack you can do dis
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And then lost 7 matches in a row >_>

Well, I'm not sure how to compare that match with Zack's trends. Unfortunately none of Kefka's opponents in that match have had a match with Zack before. And there is the FFVII/FFVI/LTTP/SM64 match of course that I just remembered, but it was a 24 hour match, so not much use.
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turbopuns posted...

Karma Hunter, I understand that analyzing matches and watching trends from year to year helps people make informed decisions. But look at it from a casual's perspective.

I didn't have any knowledge of the stats or these characters' previous matches. I can't tell you a list of all the games Kefka and Zack have made appearances in, much less how popular any of those games were. But I am a gamer and have a general knowledge of how popular FFVI and FFVII are on the Internet, and the sort of people who frequent gameFAQs. So I look at the two and pick Kefka with a good deal of confidence. Now it looks like I'm right and you're saying "well you just got lucky".

No. I used what knowledge I had to predict the result, and I predicted correctly. I don't think "luck" has as much to do with it as the fact that there are some imperfections in the stats that can't easily be predicted or accounted for from one contest to the next.

those devil may cry games sure aren't popular dante weaksauce
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Fast Falcon ate my bracket for dinner in the guru contest.

Where are you guys coming off accusing me of saying casuals > B8?

I have not made any claims about anything not directly relating to this specific match.

Last split:

Kefka -6 to Zack
Zack +29 to Ryu


Poor Ryu :(
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ExThaNemesis posted...

Bragging about getting a Kefka match right out of skill is like bragging about winning at the roulette wheel out of skill, man. Just stop.

dat same salty analogy from the 2010 contest about the gun misfiring
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Zack's starting to pick it up in America. He just passed Ryu.
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turbopuns posted...

Where are you guys coming off accusing me of saying casuals > B8?

I have not made any claims about anything not directly relating to this specific match.

We're probably tetchy about it coz sometimes during contests we'll get blindsided and then someone'll be like 'duh board 8 is so dumb'.
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ExThaNemesis posted...

Bragging about getting a Kefka match right out of skill is like bragging about winning at the roulette wheel out of skill, man. Just stop.

FFD likes this.
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turbopuns posted...

Karma Hunter, I understand that analyzing matches and watching trends from year to year helps people make informed decisions. But look at it from a casual's perspective.

I didn't have any knowledge of the stats or these characters' previous matches. I can't tell you a list of all the games Kefka and Zack have made appearances in, much less how popular any of those games were. But I am a gamer and have a general knowledge of how popular FFVI and FFVII are on the Internet, and the sort of people who frequent gameFAQs. So I look at the two and pick Kefka with a good deal of confidence. Now it looks like I'm right and you're saying "well you just got lucky".

No. I used what knowledge I had to predict the result, and I predicted correctly. I don't think "luck" has as much to do with it as the fact that there are some imperfections in the stats that can't easily be predicted or accounted for from one contest to the next.

You're being ridiculous. You're saying that "common sense" is better than detailed study of these contests. Common sense is what the board had in 2002 (I won't say "we"; I was pretty much only a lurker back then). And after studying what happened, every single one of us who has been here for 11 years would wreck our 2002 selves in ability to predict these things. "Common sense" only gets you so far. Heck, "common sense" will tell you that Mario is untouchable in these things, not that he gets almost doubled by Link. "Common sense" might be useful in being a top casual, but it won't put you near anyone on the board.

Here's a challenge: go through the old brackets from 2004 onwards and make your picks based on what you think common sense is. Then see how badly you would have lost to the Guru consensus. It's not even close.

And anyway ZACKFAQs about to render all this squabbling meaningless.

WHAT HAPPENED TO RYU H?! Goddamnit.
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Oh geez, alright proper grammar from now on.
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And then lost 7 matches in a row >_>

So after two straight cuts, Kefka takes all the votes back and Ryu cuts Zack instead.

Of course.
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Bad update for Zack, but he's made a lot of progress against the Squall/Terra projection in the last 15 minutes still. Current projection: Kefka wins with 51.95%.
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Last split:

Kefka +29 (!!) to Zack
Zack -2 to Ryu
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